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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 31, 2013, 04:10:37 AM
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According to Champion Data's latest prospectus:
RICHMOND - T.Cotchin, B.Deledio, A.Rance
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/champion-datas-list-of-elite-players.1045202/
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Alex Rance elite?..Surely that cant be right .So many football experts here constantly tell us he's a spud
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That's probably about right. Rance is one of the best defenders in the AFL now , however I don't have much faith in these rankings after they named Houli as elite last year.
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IMO Houli is the most underrated player in our side
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Jack is pretty good
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They're elite for their position, Rance is in the top 10% of defenders, not all players.
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My list for elite tigers is:
Cotchin
Deledio
Reiwoldt (wouldn't be surprised if he plays off a half forward flank this year)
Potential elite players but not there because of age are:
Martin
Ellis
Conca
Vlastuin
Not a bad midfield rotation there
Loads of Bgraders (Rance, Houli etc)
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IMO Houli is the most underrated player in our side
Most overrated I reckon , and by a long way.
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Stripes, I don't believe that Houli is underrated. He is a good footsoldier Solid B grader. His limitations are one sided, his short kicking and occasionally short steps a hard contest. His strengths are his long kicking, his handballs (awesome) and his defensive work.
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According to Champion Data's latest prospectus:
RICHMOND - T.Cotchin, B.Deledio, A.Rance
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/champion-datas-list-of-elite-players.1045202/
And the rest, would be easier argument , who isn't :shh
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We don't have any imo
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We don't have any imo
yeah, theyre all shocking, :lol
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We don't have any imo
yeah, theyre all shocking, :lol
No but none are elite at this stage. Cotchin is a ball butcherer, Lids goes missing all the time and Martin is not consistent and is also a ball butcherer.
Ablett is elite
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IMO Houli is the most underrated player in our side
Most overrated I reckon , and by a long way.
The ones who rate him are right though. The ones who don't are underrating him
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We don't have any imo
yeah, theyre all shocking, :lol
No but none are elite at this stage. Cotchin is a ball butcherer, Lids goes missing all the time and Martin is not consistent and is also a ball butcherer.
Ablett is elite
well by that measure which is fine, there are no other elite players in the comp as ablett is on another level
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it wasn't that many years ago that questions about Abletts ability to win his own ball were asked .Its taken him the best part of a decade to get to a level where now he has few if any peers.Our boys are still climbing that ladder...but elite they are.
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Gideon Simon. :cheers
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I don't think we had any this year.
But if I had to label somebody as elite I'd say Cotchin and Rance. That's it folks!
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Rance Elite?, has someone gone around and picked Claw up off the floor
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IMO Houli is the most underrated player in our side
Most overrated I reckon , and by a long way.
Stripes, I don't believe that Houli is underrated. He is a good footsoldier Solid B grader. His limitations are one sided, his short kicking and occasionally short steps a hard contest. His strengths are his long kicking, his handballs (awesome) and his defensive work.
IIRC Houli was on Champion Data's elite list for us 12 months ago. As wayne said these Champion Data rankings are for specific positions/roles rather than overall. Your summary of Houli, yandb, I reckon most people would agree with. One thing for sure he's proven Essendon wrong ;D.
I would have Cotch, Jack and Lids as elite. They've displayed a consistently high level over a number of years now. Dusty, Ellis and a couple of others who could move into the elite bracket need to back up 2013 before they do.
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This is simple!
I don't want a few elite players at Richmond.
What I want to see is an ELITE TEAM.
An elite team is made up of all very good players.
Have a look at the seventies and early eighties sides, very few would have been classed as elite, but they were all very very good footballers and worked the team thing extremely well (excluding hungry of course lol)
As for that elite player list, I think some knob had a little too much time on his hands and wanted to name a few players from every team.
Not every player there is close to being elite, they are great footballers yeah, but how many are any where near the class of Ablett, not too many.
When a team wins a premiership, then a lot of players are looked at as better players, simply because they played in a grand final.
Where true elite players, don't need that behind them to gain the title of elite.
Up and coming eliteness at Tigerland in no particular order is.......
Morris
Riewoldt
Batchelor
Cotchin (almost there)
Deledio
Martin
Conca
Rance and Vlastuin