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Title: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Golfprotiger on February 22, 2014, 09:50:24 PM
Miles & Thomas for me!!!

:thumbsup
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: bojangles17 on February 22, 2014, 09:57:29 PM
Is there two spots, if so then yep both would crackin the whip for a r1 berth....pretty shrewd pick ups by the tiges........again  :clapping
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tony_montana on February 22, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
agreed, Id go with both, can never have enough midfield depth
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Stripes on February 22, 2014, 11:00:11 PM
The Big O may need to be elevated if Maric is out for the first half of the season....

Miles over Thomas for mine but both were impressive
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on February 22, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Also badly need line breaking pace and more depth in the backline, which is where Banfumbles & Darrou come into play...if only they'd actually come in to play.

Thomas is this year's Lonergan.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Andyy on February 23, 2014, 02:55:55 AM
Miles and Lloyd for me.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on February 23, 2014, 03:08:49 AM
Lloyd's not a rookie.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Andyy on February 23, 2014, 11:08:22 AM
True my bad. Sure looks the part to me regardless.

Would really like to see Darrou and Elton next match. Got big bodies.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 23, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
The Big O may need to be elevated if Maric is out for the first half of the season....

Miles over Thomas for mine but both were impressive
I think they will elevate Miles and Thomas.  They can also elevate the big O if Maric is put on the LTI list.

So in essence they could elevate all three.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: one-eyed on February 23, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Hardwick said the Tigers had to make a tough decision in the coming weeks, with a number of rookies in the mix for elevation, including Matt Thomas and Anthony Miles, who both performed well in Wangaratta.

“(We) got them to the club because they hunt the ball ... they contributed well,” he said of the pair.

“We will make decisions over the next few weeks (about) who gets elevated before the season. (Orren) Stephenson and (Ben) Darrou are also in contention. (We have) lots of guys battling for positions.”

Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-wants-skipper-trent-cotchin-to-drift-forward-and-kick-more-goals/story-fndv8t7m-1226835349855)
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: The Big Richo on February 23, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
I'd go for Angus Graham.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tigs2011 on February 23, 2014, 10:49:04 PM
Miles and Stephenson. HOw long is Maric out.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: dwaino on February 23, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Miles and Stephenson. HOw long is Maric out.

How long is a piece of string?
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: mightytiges on February 24, 2014, 01:49:11 PM
While both Miles and Thomas would be in front on form alone out of all our rookies, I can't see the Club promoting both of them given as inside mids they play the same role. I'll reckon will promote the Big O, with Ivan out for a while especially if he has surgery, along with Miles.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tony_montana on February 24, 2014, 01:57:11 PM
Big O could always get elevated anyway if Ivan needs to go on the LTI
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Dice on February 24, 2014, 02:59:44 PM
Thomas was really good on the weekend. Racked up getting clearances. On that form I'd play him ahead of Foley.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tiga on February 24, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
Miles for sure! Not sure about the second one. Thomas was good but I'd like to see him go around again before I'd lock him in.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on February 24, 2014, 04:32:08 PM
Yes Thomas should upgraded -   if we are in truly desperate need of a new whipping boy.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Dice on February 24, 2014, 04:53:17 PM
Yes Thomas should upgraded -   if we are in truly desperate need of a new whipping boy.
Why would you say that ?  He's a very ordinary kick of the ball that's for sure but hard nutted clearance machines don't usually become whipping boys. It's your pea hearts like McMahon , Tivva and Houli who are the easy targets
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on February 24, 2014, 05:04:53 PM
Yes Thomas should upgraded -   if we are in truly desperate need of a new whipping boy.
Why would you say that ?  He's a very ordinary kick of the ball that's for sure but hard nutted clearance machines don't usually become whipping boys. It's your pea hearts like McMahon , Tivva and Houli who are the easy targets

Hard as a horses head or soft as butter, you start coughing it up like Thomas does and the supporters will soon bring out the cat o' nine tails.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tiga on February 24, 2014, 05:50:58 PM
Yes Thomas should upgraded -   if we are in truly desperate need of a new whipping boy.
Why would you say that ?  He's a very ordinary kick of the ball that's for sure but hard nutted clearance machines don't usually become whipping boys. It's your pea hearts like McMahon , Tivva and Houli who are the easy targets

Snake eyes I take offence at you bundling in Houli and Tivva into a bag that contains McMahon.  >:( >:( Might as well have been Schapelle Corby's Boogie Board Bag  ;D

Customs Officer: "One Tibba?"
Shapelle: "That's Mine.."
Customs Officer: "One Houli?"
Shapelle: "That's Mine.."
Customs Officer: "Hmmmmmm....One McMahon???"
Shapelle Shrieks in horror: "THAT'S NOT MINE!!!"


Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on February 24, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
Houli > Tivendale > McMahon > Grigg
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 24, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
Houli > Tivendale > McMahon > Grigg

Joyzuz you forget how bad some of our players skills were compared to our players today....

Id rather Grigg over Tivendale. Every day of the week.

At least Grigg doesnt nine iron the ball out of bounds with 8 out of every 10 kicks
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: the claw on February 24, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Yes Thomas should upgraded -   if we are in truly desperate need of a new whipping boy.
gotta agree.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: mat073 on February 25, 2014, 02:24:11 AM
Thomas looks like a ready made replacement for Tucky. Surely you must have some ability to win the Magarey medal.

Disposal might be suspect however his grunt could turn out to be the missing colour of the rainbow.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: big tone on February 25, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Big O must be a massive chance now the Ivan is out for a while.
I said it in another thread late last year but IMO on form leading into finals, Big O's ruckwork was better than Ivan's. I think given the chance Big O can do the job  for us for the first half of the year. He is underrated as a tap ruckman.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 25, 2014, 08:45:44 PM
Big O must be a massive chance now the Ivan is out for a while.
I said it in another thread late last year but IMO on form leading into finals, Big O's ruckwork was better than Ivan's. I think given the chance Big O can do the job  for us for the first half of the year. He is underrated as a tap ruckman.

Fair call but part of the issue is I don't think you can rest him up forward, not sure he offers much outside his ruckwork TBH
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: big tone on February 25, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
Big O must be a massive chance now the Ivan is out for a while.
I said it in another thread late last year but IMO on form leading into finals, Big O's ruckwork was better than Ivan's. I think given the chance Big O can do the job  for us for the first half of the year. He is underrated as a tap ruckman.

Fair call but part of the issue is I don't think you can rest him up forward, not sure he offers much outside his ruckwork TBH
I think he is a ruckman, not a forward. I think he would rest mostly on the bench but when he has to rest forward I think he can give a good contest. May not have to many other options unfortunately, unless Griff can surprise us all.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: (•))(©™ on February 25, 2014, 10:54:05 PM
Should have been played off the bench last year.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Smokey on February 26, 2014, 06:58:47 AM
Big O must be a massive chance now the Ivan is out for a while.
I said it in another thread late last year but IMO on form leading into finals, Big O's ruckwork was better than Ivan's. I think given the chance Big O can do the job  for us for the first half of the year. He is underrated as a tap ruckman.

Fair call but part of the issue is I don't think you can rest him up forward, not sure he offers much outside his ruckwork TBH
I think he is a ruckman, not a forward. I think he would rest mostly on the bench but when he has to rest forward I think he can give a good contest. May not have to many other options unfortunately, unless Griff can surprise us all.

You're right about the options unless as you say, Griff comes up but the problem with using the bench is the new capped interchange rule - it's going to force clubs to use ruckmen as resting forwards for much longer periods of the game.  Not that I have a problem with the new rule.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: wayne on February 26, 2014, 09:07:10 AM
Big O must be a massive chance now the Ivan is out for a while.
I said it in another thread late last year but IMO on form leading into finals, Big O's ruckwork was better than Ivan's. I think given the chance Big O can do the job  for us for the first half of the year. He is underrated as a tap ruckman.

If Ivan is placed on the LTI, the Big O can be elevated along with two others.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tony_montana on February 26, 2014, 12:00:43 PM
spot on Wayne
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on February 26, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
Didn't I say that several days ago on page 1 of this thread....... :sleep
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tiga on February 26, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
Didn't I say that several days ago on page 1 of this thread....... :sleep
You sure did YBB.  :thumbsup I don't skim.  ;D
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: the claw on February 26, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
While both Miles and Thomas would be in front on form alone out of all our rookies, I can't see the Club promoting both of them given as inside mids they play the same role. I'll reckon will promote the Big O, with Ivan out for a while especially if he has surgery, along with Miles.
hang on a minute what other inside mids do we have.  foley? and cotch who does both.
thomas is every chance as he looks like a big bodied replacement for tuck. how important was he to us. im no fan of thomas but i can see why we would take him.
miles to me looks more than  capable of  performing inside and out atm id play him instead of a fair few favorites of which names wont be mentioned for fear of bun fights.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tony_montana on February 26, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Didn't I say that several days ago on page 1 of this thread....... :sleep

yep you did, a few of us have been of the same of opinion since people have started calling for big O to be elevated
Title: Richmond's rookie race tightens (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 01, 2014, 10:11:02 PM
Richmond's rookie race tightens

    Jon Ralph
    Herald Sun
    February 28, 2014 7:19PM


... as a host of rookie midfielders also push for a potential Round 1 spot.

The club has until March 11 to elevate two of the three rookies in contention for elevation — midfielders Anthony Miles and Matt Thomas and ruckman Orren Stephenson.

Former Port Adelaide on-baller Thomas is seen to be marginally in front of former GWS midfielder Miles, taken with the club’s last rookie pick.

If Stephenson is not elevated it hands injury-prone former No. 19 pick Ben Griffiths his chance to save his career in the absence of Ivan Maric (ankle surgery).

Griffiths was handed a one-year contract last year with no takers at the trade table, but impressed against Collingwood last week as a key position player and back up ruckman to Shaun Hampson.

He has played only 19 games in four years and, amid repeated injuries, has stagnated in the VFL despite being a versatile tall with a booming right-foot kick.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/daniel-jackson-and-jack-riewoldt-return-for-richmond-practice-match-while-rookie-race-tightens/story-fni5f9jc-1226841213166
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Stripes on March 02, 2014, 07:58:35 PM
Interesting that they rate Thomas ahead of Miles. I wonder if this has come from the club or is just opinion?
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 02, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
Interesting that they rate Thomas ahead of Miles. I wonder if this has come from the club or is just opinion?
Would have put Miles a kilometre in front! ;D
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: mightytiges on March 09, 2014, 04:53:48 AM
I would prefer Miles as mids who can find the ball and push forward to kick goals I value more. However, I would now say based on his aftermatch comments, that Dimma wants Thomas promoted.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: tigs2011 on March 09, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Miles disappointed me a bit in the VFL game. Thomas for mine. And Stephenson just because we are desperate.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 09, 2014, 10:33:57 AM
Thomas by miles
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Smokey on March 09, 2014, 10:47:15 AM
Miles disappointed me a bit in the VFL game. Thomas for mine. And Stephenson just because we are desperate.

We could promote both Thomas and Miles, and leave the Big O unless we need him.  We can always place Maric on the LTI list if we need to free up a temporary spot for O but no need to promote him if we don't need him.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 09, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
Miles i would think - is a long way down the pecking order
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 11:04:40 AM
Thomas seems a lock.
It's between Miles and Banfield for the second spot.
After watching Banfield on Friday I'm conflicted…………………………...
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Willy on March 09, 2014, 11:06:28 AM
Thomas and Banfeild for mine. Miles unlucky, but Thomas is just ahead of him and we need Banfield's pace in the forward line I think.
Miles will get his chance down the track.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 11:16:35 AM
Banfield? Lmao. Nearly missed a sitter in the goal square because he's a gimp, and had one nice assist where he put his head over it. Nowhere near done enough. Behind S.Edwards, Lloyd and King.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Willy on March 09, 2014, 11:57:04 AM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: mat073 on March 09, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Thomas will become another Hardwick " love child " .
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 12:47:25 PM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.

Banfumbles is a liability and has only played VFL practice games with a very minor contribution to the senior side on Friday. About the same as King. Lloyd is ahead of both. Gordon as well.

Let's just forget about Banfield and hopefully he disappears in a sissy of smoke
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 01:33:04 PM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.

Banfumbles is a liability and has only played VFL practice games with a very minor contribution to the senior side on Friday. About the same as King. Lloyd is ahead of both. Gordon as well.

Let's just forget about Banfield and hopefully he disappears in a sissy of smoke
Now Gerks, look at the thread topic. King, Lioyd and Gordon are NOT rookies and so are irrelevant to the argument.
They have the opportunity to elevate two rookies.  We all feel we need a hard nut in and under and that is why Thomas I feel is a lock.
The second player is what we are arguing about.  I personally feel Miles is the better footballer but Banfield may give us more of what we need - a fast crumbing forward.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
We should elevate Darrou then

Sure he's behind Chaplin, Rance, Grimes and Astbury but we might be able to play him as a small forward  ;D
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 09, 2014, 02:39:03 PM
We should elevate Darrou then

Sure he's behind Chaplin, Rance, Grimes and Astbury but we might be able to play him as a small forward  ;D
Another classy post! :lol
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Willy on March 09, 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.

Banfumbles is a liability and has only played VFL practice games with a very minor contribution to the senior side on Friday. About the same as King. Lloyd is ahead of both. Gordon as well.

Let's just forget about Banfield and hopefully he disappears in a sissy of smoke

Agree to disagree on Banfield then. I reckon he will be useful to us.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 02:56:25 PM
He might

Needs a haircut
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on March 09, 2014, 03:03:52 PM
Thomas will become another Hardwick " love child " .

Has all the hallmarks....hard at it with poor skills.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
Thomas will become another Hardwick " love child " .

Has all the hallmarks....hard at it with poor foot skills.

Inside mids with sketchy foot skills. The whipping boys of limpgots world wide.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on March 09, 2014, 03:46:36 PM
Yes in that "world wide" sport of Australian Rules Football.

Calling Thomas' disposal merely "sketchy" affords it way too much credit.


Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 04:40:18 PM
I said his foot skills were sketchy not his disposal

The champ handballs pretty good
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: bojangles17 on March 09, 2014, 05:18:51 PM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.

Banfumbles is a liability and has only played VFL practice games with a very minor contribution to the senior side on Friday. About the same as King. Lloyd is ahead of both. Gordon as well.

Let's just forget about Banfield and hopefully he disappears in a sissy of smoke
Gerky has claw hacked your account, this head up the clacker nonsense is unlike you  :lol
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on March 09, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
I said his foot skills were sketchy not his disposal

The champ handballs pretty good

Clearly you've never watched him play for Port, wait until the real stuff starts - yeah handballs beautifully.....to the opposition.
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Dimma plays S. Edwards up the ground. King is underdone. Lloydy is a chance but I think we are real slow at the moment and in desperate need of some pace. Banfield has plenty.
He came on late and did a couple of good things against the Dons.

Banfumbles is a liability and has only played VFL practice games with a very minor contribution to the senior side on Friday. About the same as King. Lloyd is ahead of both. Gordon as well.

Let's just forget about Banfield and hopefully he disappears in a sissy of smoke
Gerky has claw hacked your account, this head up the clacker nonsense is unlike you  :lol

  ;D

I said his foot skills were sketchy not his disposal

The champ handballs pretty good

Clearly you've never watched him play for Port, wait until the real stuff starts - yeah handballs beautifully.....to the opposition.

I've seen more Matty Thomas handballs than you've had small fantas

I hope he wears his magarey while playing like the boss he is
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Diocletian on March 09, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
Yes you've clearly seen a lot of him - at SANFL level. McGoo Medal reference gives you away almost as much as your epithets give away certain latent tendencies
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 09, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
So much anger Evil Whitey lmao
Title: Re: Who gets the Rookie spots?
Post by: Coach on March 09, 2014, 06:31:45 PM
STOP IT! STOP IT! WE'RE BEST FRIENDS!