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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Rampstar on April 13, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
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For Me
RETIRE UP FOR TRADE DELIST
Chris Newman Shaun Grigg Ricky Petterd
Jake King Shane Edwards Matthew Thomas
Nathan Foley Jake Batchelor Aaron Edwards
Orren Stephenson Troy Chaplin
Tyrone Vickery
4 + 5 + 3 = 12 CHANGES
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For Me
RETIRE UP FOR TRADE DELIST
Chris Newman Shaun Grigg Ricky Petterd
Jake King Shane Edwards Matthew Thomas
Nathan Foley Jake Batchelor Aaron Edwards
Orren Stephenson Troy Chaplin
Tyrone Vickery
4 + 5 + 3 = 12 CHANGES
Sorry Ramps but that list just aint going to happen.
Nobody will trade for Chaplin. Matt Thomas won't be delisted. You'll get some smelly jocks maybe for Vickery and some clean jocks for Batchelor.
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Thomas??? Would be 2nd in our B&F at the moment.
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Agree for the most part
Shane Edwards isnt our worst IMO
Bachelor has upside imo
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Thomas??? Would be 2nd in our B&F at the moment.
And isn't an indictment on our playing list?
Ramps, as for your list of who to trade, sorry but you are dreaming. The only one that may get a bit of interest is Edwards and at best it would be a late 2nd rounder. The other 4 not a chance, no one would be interested IMHO
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Im not saying there worf anything just saying that I would put up their names for trade. Agree that if Thomas is second in our B&F at this stage its a massive indictment on the club.
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Im not saying there worf anything just saying that I would put up their names for trade. Agree that if Thomas is second in our B&F at this stage its a massive indictment on the club.
Every year we put names up for trade and no one is interested
We can do it again with the names you've floated and we ended in the same spot, no one being interested and people like you and me saying why don't we get serious about it
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Didn't we end up seeing each player who left the club winding up at another club?
Welcome to bizarro world!
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unless we trade or delist contracted players the only list that should be up at the moment is the 17 players who are currently out of contract.
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Retire
Newman, King
Trade bait
Vickery
Grimes
Grigg
Arnot
Elton
FA
ShEdwards
Delist
Batchelor
Adwards
Helbig
Dea
Stephenson
Foley
Williams
Darou
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Retire
Newman, King
Trade bait
Vickery
Grimes
Grigg
Arnot
Elton
FA
ShEdwards
Delist
Batchelor
Adwards
Helbig
Dea
Stephenson
Foley
Williams
Darou
I don't like trading young developing big men. Elton is one of those. Played well against the Bummers in the praccy match. Can play a bit this boy and has filled out quite a bit. Looks like a man mountain now.
I would give him 2 more years before cutting. Trade? Only if we get some really good for him which I doubt anyone will give for someone that has played one game.
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the list of players who i assume are uncontracted.
batchelor - delist/ may get a late 3rd rounder if lucky.
s edwards - trade/ delist. may or may not have some trade value depending.
king - has a clause in his contract make sure its not met. delist
newman - retire
petterd - just has too many weaknesses in his game. delist.
a edwards - at what 31 and lennon and ohanlon gordon knights hopefully pushing for a game. delist.
helbig - has to improve a fair bit failing this delist.
arnot - borderline atm keep.
dea - has to improve like helbig no improvement delist.
astbury - shown improvement keep.
griffiths - shown improvement keep.
elton - developing junior keep.
mcbean - developing junior keep.
mcdonough - as a sml should probably be showing a little bit more give him time keep.
knights - if he cant get on the park and over injuries delist, if he can keep.
rookies
stephenson - have to give his spot to a junior ruckman.
darrou - well he either does enough to get promotion or we delist him. atm delist.
williams - has to be in the gun desoite injury. show some real improvement keep or no improvement delist.
banfield - probably should be given a chance but his skillset for a small has me already wanting him out.
its not as if atm we have to cut contracted players theres plenty of uncontracted options.
would look to get something at least for the following in trades.
batchelor ?? not sure hes worth anything.
foley - should get something for him.
vickery - if frawley wasnt a f/a would send him to melb in a swap of sorts..some one must see something in this dud. someone will think yep has talent and we can turn him around could get a decent 2nd rounder.
to me id like to cut 6 from the list proper. id be looking at 1 f/a, 1 trade, 4nd picks 2 mature rookies 2 young rookies or similar.
would be targeting players along these lines with some give or take on sml/med forwards defenders.
2 quick skillful more outside mid than inside.
2 big bodied inside mids must be able to kick and work on the outside as well. no snails if possible.
2 ruckmen one junior one 22 23 yo.
2 tall forwards
2 tall defenders.
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the list of players who i assume are uncontracted.
batchelor - delist/ may get a late 3rd rounder if lucky.
s edwards - trade/ delist. may or may not have some trade value depending.
king - has a clause in his contract make sure its not met. delist
newman - retire
petterd - just has too many weaknesses in his game. delist.
a edwards - at what 31 and lennon and ohanlon gordon knights hopefully pushing for a game. delist.
helbig - has to improve a fair bit failing this delist.
arnot - borderline atm keep.
dea - has to improve like helbig no improvement delist.
astbury - shown improvement keep.
griffiths - shown improvement keep.
elton - developing junior keep.
mcbean - developing junior keep.
mcdonough - as a sml should probably be showing a little bit more give him time keep.
knights - if he cant get on the park and over injuries delist, if he can keep.
rookies
stephenson - have to give his spot to a junior ruckman.
darrou - well he either does enough to get promotion or we delist him. atm delist.
williams - has to be in the gun desoite injury. show some real improvement keep or no improvement delist.
banfield - probably should be given a chance but his skillset for a small has me already wanting him out.
its not as if atm we have to cut contracted players theres plenty of uncontracted options.
would look to get something at least for the following in trades.
batchelor ?? not sure hes worth anything.
foley - should get something for him.
vickery - if frawley wasnt a f/a would send him to melb in a swap of sorts..some one must see something in this dud. someone will think yep has talent and we can turn him around could get a decent 2nd rounder.
to me id like to cut 6 from the list proper. id be looking at 1 f/a, 1 trade, 4nd picks 2 mature rookies 2 young rookies or similar.
would be targeting players along these lines with some give or take on sml/med forwards defenders.
2 quick skillful more outside mid than inside.
2 big bodied inside mids must be able to kick and work on the outside as well. no snails if possible.
2 ruckmen one junior one 22 23 yo.
2 tall forwards
2 tall defenders.
Fair assessment although S Edwards is a f/a so we can't trade him….Darrou is a rookie so if he continues to improve either elevate him or keep as rookie.
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good for a laugh this topic :lol
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good for a laugh this topic :lol
I always try and entertain you lot with my incisive posts and analytical topic starter threads ;D
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Thomas??? Would be 2nd in our B&F at the moment.
An indictment on our list that he is going that well. Is part of the problem not the solution.
Has anyone noticed the way he goes into a pack and doesn't even look at the ball?? Also has the Richmond habit of falling to ground at every opportunity
I wouldn't and we shouldn't be playing him unless absolutely necessary. Certainly shouldn't be starting in the middle
Wouldn't be in Port Adelaide's top 30 players due all his fault's as a footballer.
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Agree for the most part
Shane Edwards isnt our worst IMO
Bachelor has upside imo
Wake up Judge. His not only our worst but one of the worst in the competition
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Grigg. Houli. Petard. Newman. Chaplin. King...
Shane Edwards is a limited played but not the worst in our team let alone the comp Imo
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Im not saying there worf anything just saying that I would put up their names for trade. Agree that if Thomas is second in our B&F at this stage its a massive indictment on the club.
Every year we put names up for trade and no one is interested
We can do it again with the names you've floated and we ended in the same spot, no one being interested and people like you and me saying why don't we get serious about it
Teams have come for Batch and Edwards in the past. Vickery would get some interest and Grigg has been traded for before. :whistle
Problem is our club will hold onto them. Nothing more certain than that. :lol
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I don't like trading young developing big men. Elton is one of those. Played well against the Bummers in the praccy match. Can play a bit this boy and has filled out quite a bit. Looks like a man mountain now.
I would give him 2 more years before cutting. Trade? Only if we get some really good for him which I doubt anyone will give for someone that has played one game.
I just don't see it with Elton. Has very questionable disposal IMO.
Think he's surplus to our needs and we might land something decent for him.
If the right deal came up I'd make the trade, otherwise keep.
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Trade Riewoldt and Vickery for Jeremy cameron
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Grigg. Houli. Petard. Newman. Chaplin. King...
Shane Edwards is a limited played but not the worst in our team let alone the comp Imo
so thats 7 your placing among the worst in the comp. because edwards is definately no better than those you mention. if we can get a trade for him we would be absolute mugs not to jump at it.
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Trade Riewoldt and Vickery for Jeremy cameron
Would do this in a heartbeat.
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Trade Riewoldt and Vickery for Jeremy cameron
They'd want Cotchin too to get the deal done..... :(
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Trade Riewoldt and Vickery for Jeremy cameron
Would do this in a heartbeat.
Yeh but they wouldnt. With no Vickery though, who would we use Jezza as a decoy for?
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Grigg. Houli. Petard. Newman. Chaplin. King...
Shane Edwards is a limited played but not the worst in our team let alone the comp Imo
so thats 7 your placing among the worst in the comp. because edwards is definately no better than those you mention. if we can get a trade for him we would be absolute mugs not to jump at it.
Is it IMO SEdwards is indeed better than grigg/houli/pettad/king
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Is it IMO SEdwards is indeed better than grigg/houli/pettad/king
SLAP yourself, His a liabilty to the team. His new name is chicken boy until he proves himself otherwise
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All I saying is there are other who are more of a liability than sedwards
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All I saying is there are other who are more of a liability than sedwards
how do you explain Chicken Boy shirking not once, not twice, but many times
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At least one of Lloyd goals came from an sEdwarss assist. He has good hands and often is creative and effectivty with the handball. He can crumb and is a good forward pocket option. On the whole I don't think sEdwarda squibs it as often as the others.
Just IMO
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Edwards is shyte. The End.
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Saw an interesting but not too surprising stat last night. Richmond has the 3rd least amount of players under the age of 24 on their list in the AFL. With a stat like that you'd think we were smack bang in the middle of our premiership window. Hope last years drafting doesn't come back to haunt us.
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Hardwick got rid of most of Wallace's dead wood in his first two years so he could gradually replace it with his own dead wood.
Helpful hint: When embarking on a rebuild, try to avoid using the same shoddy materials.
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Hardwick got rid of most of Wallace's dead wood in his first two years so he could gradually replace it with his own dead wood.
Helpful hint: When embarking on a rebuild, try to avoid using the same shoddy materials.
:cheers
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Hardwick got rid of most of Wallace's dead wood in his first two years so he could gradually replace it with his own dead wood.
Helpful hint: When embarking on a rebuild, try to avoid using the same shoddy materials.
one day some guy is going to finish a rfc rebuild. I'm sure of it.
Actually I'm not that sure.
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A few years ago I was pleading with the club to get rid of the likes of Pettifer, Tivendale and McMahon. Now I'm pleading with them to get rid of Grigg, Petterd and Shane Edwards.
Nothing much has changed really.
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A few years ago I was pleading with the club to get rid of the likes of Pettifer, Tivendale and McMahon. Now I'm pleading with them to get rid of Grigg, Petterd and Shane Edwards.
Nothing much has changed really.
It's shaping that way isn't it :banghead
Moneyball theory or just plain rejects ? We must remember that all these players , and that is ALL of them , were not getting a senior game at the club we recruited them from.
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Edwards is shyte. The End.
Yes but is he MORE shyte than houli/petard/grigg/Newman
Edwards being shyte doesn't mean the other players are any less shyte
What is really require is a ranking of shyte
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Saw an interesting but not too surprising stat last night. Richmond has the 3rd least amount of players under the age of 24 on their list in the AFL. With a stat like that you'd think we were smack bang in the middle of our premiership window. Hope last years drafting doesn't come back to haunt us.
Started crying when saw this on tv
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Saw an interesting but not too surprising stat last night. Richmond has the 3rd least amount of players under the age of 24 on their list in the AFL. With a stat like that you'd think we were smack bang in the middle of our premiership window. Hope last years drafting doesn't come back to haunt us.
and yet when it was pointed out to posters on here that filling the age and experience gaps was not needed this yr most argued the point.
the list had progressed to the point where we had ample players who fit into the 23 plus age group and we had gained experience that is enough players with 80 100 games behind them.we had both these criteria to a point where we should be competing for finals.
yet we went out and took almost exclusively mature players despite junior numbers on the low side. there was absolutely no need to target so many mature players
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A few years ago I was pleading with the club to get rid of the likes of Pettifer, Tivendale and McMahon. Now I'm pleading with them to get rid of Grigg, Petterd and Shane Edwards.
Nothing much has changed really.
:lol
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SuperFooty takes a look at your club’s elder statesmen and whether they may hang up the boots at the end of 2014
Herald-Sun
July 17, 2014
WE’VE already seen a few big names call time on their careers in 2014.
And as we head towards the end of the home and away season, that number is only set to increase.
This week St Kilda champ Lenny Hayes and Collingwood’s premiership skipper Nick Maxwell joined the list of those who won’t be going on next season.
They follow the likes of Jonathan Brown, Heath Scotland and Ben Rutten, the latter still going around but having declared 2014 will be his sign off to AFL footy.
All are over that magical 30 barrier, the age when most footballers start to question their own football mortality.
That being the case, we’ve taken a look at all 18 clubs and those players entering the twilight of their careers.
We’ll likely have to wait until the end of the year to know the answer to many, but here’s our early look at each club and who could be hanging up the boots at your club.
NOTE: Player ages below as of Round 1, 2015
RICHMOND
Chris Newman 32
Orren Stephenson 32
Aaron Edwards 30
Jake King 30
WHAT WE SAY:
Newman says he’s keen to play on next year and will sit down with the club in coming weeks to discuss his future. He’s out of contract at the end of the year and had missed six weeks with calf and groin injuries so a tap on the shoulder wouldn’t surprise. King, who hasn’t played since Round 3, has no hope of reaching the 12 games that would have triggered an extra year in his contract but his manager Glenn Archer told the Footy Show early in the year the small forward wants to play in 2015. He’s highly valued at Punt Rd so if he can get his body right he’s likely to get another chance. Stephenson might stay as rookie ruck insurance after a very good year in the VFL but it’s hard to see Aaron Edwards playing much more senior footy.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/superfooty-takes-a-look-at-your-clubs-elder-statesmen-and-whether-they-may-hang-up-the-boots-at-the-end-of-2014/story-fndv7pj3-1226991183643