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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 23, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
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VFL Round 4
Frankston Dolphins (0-3, 13th) vs Richmond Tigers (1-2, 12th)
Friday, 25th April @ Frankston Oval.
Time: 2:00 pm
I'm assuming the game will be broadcast on 'Tiger VFL Radio' along with updates on Richmond VFL twitter.
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Must win game.
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Blockbuster.
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May take a slice away of the crowd going to the G. ;D
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Round 4 VFL squad:
11 Jake Batchelor
22 Todd Banfield
26 Anthony Miles
27 Aaron Edwards
29 Tyrone Vickery
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Ben Lennon
36 Matt McDonough
37 Orren Stephenson
43 Todd Elton
45 Brett O'Hanlon
48 Ben Darrou
51 Nathan Batsanis
52 Clayton McCartney
54 James Wall
55 Ryan Bathie
56 Luke Collins
58 Mitch Keddell
59 Nick Wynne
60 Ross Young
61 Ben Waite
62 Pat Contin
63 Rian McGough
67 Luke Conca
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-24/round-4-vfl-squad
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This is the big one, you guys! :clapping
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what is the address???
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At the game, no Helbig or Doughnuts.
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Tigers are on the scoreboard with an early goal to Ryan Bathie :gotigers
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Tigers 2 straight Frankston yet to score.
Goals to Bathie and Edwards, miles getting a heap of it.
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At the game, no Helbig or Doughnuts.
Lennon & Batch playing, Loui?
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Yep, batch has fallen twice in a contest do far, not a good look!
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Great goal by Beano!!
3.0.18
0.0.0
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Great goal by Beano!!
3.0.18
0.0.0
Lots of tigers fans?
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Great start :gotigers
what is the address???
Near the corner of Young St and High St in Frankston. Just a few blocks south of Frankston railway station.
http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/stadiums_maps.php?id=51
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Another to Beano, on fire this quarter with miles and mackintosh.
Plenty of tigers supporters here, most of the senior boys are as well.
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Frankston score there first courtesy of a Lennon 50.
4.2.26
1.1.7
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Goal to Stephenson hit on the chest by Miles.
5.3.33
1.1.7
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Poster by Elton again hit lace out by miles from the ball up!
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Goal to Banfield after a big hip and shoulder from batch spilled the ball on the wing
6.4.40
1.1.7
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I think most of us would have preferred Miles being promoted ahead of Thomas because Miles had/has scoreboard impact as an inside mid. Unfortunately, Miles had an ordinary VFL preseason game just prior to the rookie promotion decision compared to Thomas having a good game in the seniors' preseason match. It cost him (and us) his promotion to the senior list :-\.
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Goal to Banfield after a big hip and shoulder from batch spilled the ball on the wing
6.4.40
1.1.7
Is there any wind advantage, Loui?
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No wind, absolutely perfect conditions for footy!
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Cheers Loui. Not use to us not struggling against Frsnkston ;D.
Quarter time score:
Richmond 6.4-40
Frankston 1.1-7
Goals: McBean 2, Banfield, Stephenson, A.Edwards, Bathie.
RFC VFL twitter: "Solid start by the boys, strong backline and finding targets up forward."
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McBean's 3rd goal :gotigers. Up 7 goals to 2.
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Frankston kick the first of the second but followed up by a quick reply from Beano for his 3rd
Frankston just kicked its second for term.
7.4.46
3.1.19
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Another goal to Bathie. Intensity really lifted by Frankston, game has got scrappy.
McBean is a stuff!
8.4.52
3.3.21
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Thanks for the update Loui
Good to see Mcbean respond after being slightly off the boil recently.
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Goal Elton, roved a spilled making contest between vickery and McBean.
9.5.59
3.3.21
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Sounds like McBean is returning to the form both in the air and at ground level he was showing before his ankle injury late last year.
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Vickery still spoiling his own teammates in the forward line....
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Sounds like sideshow bob is having some rake trouble early.
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Another goal Bathie, great entry, spilled by Bathie but well roved and snap for goal.
10.6.66
3.4.22
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Sounds like McBean is returning to the form both in the air and at ground level he was showing before his ankle injury late last year.
McBean is a gun
Future of Punt Rd
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Vickery trying hard but just can't get in the game.
Just doesn't do enough once the ball goes past him.
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Goal to Frankston mark taken over Batchelor, should have paid man in front.
10.7.67
4.5.29
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Half-time scores:
Richmond 6.4 10.8-68
Frankston 1.1 4.5-29
Goals: McBean 3, Bathie 3, Banfield, Stephenson, A.Edwards, Elton.
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Vickery trying hard but just can't get in the game.
Just doesn't do enough once the ball goes past him.
Because he keeps stepping into rakes.
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Half time.
Great first half by the tigers. Rebound out of defense was awsome, it broke down a little at half forward but if we got it forward quickly we would score.
Most noticeable thing was we are playing on instantly, we look quick and our ball skills are great.
Miles was out of the blokes early, out only true mid (Richmond listed) was quieter in the second but had a heavy tag.
McBean 3 goals looks lively just as good when the ball goes to ground.
Looked a bit proppy walking off at HT but I'm sure it's nothing.
Mackintosh is instrumentals in our rebound from defense, great skills and getting plenty of it.
Edwards playing on the wing, getting plenty of it, solid so far.
Elton needs to go harder, playing ok but needs to take more marks, he's spilling balls that should be taken.
Vickery and are both trying hard but are struggling big time to get into the game. I must admit Batch looks slow even at this level.
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Hows Lennon going?
and are they p[laying Batch as a KPD or floating/rebounder?
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Cheers for the half-time report Loui :cheers.
Hopefully the senior boys watching are taking note that quick direct footy into the forward line is the way to score plenty of goals even at this level.
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Hopefully its a sign of where the whole squad is going now mt and the reserves playing on quickly is a prelude to the seniors doing the same.
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Lennon does some nice things but isn't getting near it much.
Batch is a floating back, has taen a couple of intercept marks but apart from that has been unseen.
Darou has been solid down back, the wall so to speak, most of the set ups have started with him.
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@RichmondVFL twitter:
Stats:
Miles 14 touches, 4 marks, 4 clearances.
Lennon 10 touches, 3 marks.
A. Edwards 13 touches, 1 goal.
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Lennon does some nice things but isn't getting near it much.
Batch is a floating back, has taen a couple of intercept marks but apart from that has been unseen.
Darou has been solid down back, the wall so to speak, most of the set ups have started with him.
cheers lt
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Hopefully its a sign of where the whole squad is going now mt and the reserves playing on quickly is a prelude to the seniors doing the same.
Fingers crossed, TM :pray.
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Good to see Darrou back in form straight away after last week's shocker.
Batchelor has gone from an exciting prospect to Mitch Farmer mk.II..... gotta love Richmond's arrested development.
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Sideshow Bob stats;
0 kicks. 0 handballs.
2 dropped marks.
3 spoils against McBean, Elton & Edwards.
6 Rakes.
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More stats from @RichmondVFL twitter:
Vickery 7 touches, 2 marks, 4 hit-outs, 1 behind.
Stephenson 23 touches, 8 marks, 15 hit-outs [ed. and 1 goal]
McBean 3 goals, 3 marks, 6 touches
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First goal to Frankston after a running shot from Banfield went out on the full.
10.8.68
5.5.35
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Hopefully its a sign of where the whole squad is going now mt and the reserves playing on quickly is a prelude to the seniors doing the same.
Fingers crossed, TM :pray.
Wouldn't read too much in to the match so far. Frankston are shyte beyond words. It's actually more of worry we've let them get to 30 so early.
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Goal to Frankston after a comedy of errors involving Edwards and batch.
10.9.69
6.5.41
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Goal to Frankston. Back to the old tigers way, stuffing about with the ball. Over handball I g and fumbling.
10.9.69
7.6.48
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Here we go....
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Not sure what we do during half-time down at Punt Rd (drink milo?) but we regularly come out afterwards half asleep, lacking the intensity and forgetting the quick gamestyle that got us half-time leads.
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Another Frankston goal after a 50 meter penelty.
We're looking shot....
10.9.69
8.6.54
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Vickery marks and kicks from 45m out but misses to the far side.
70 - 54
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Not sure what we do during half-time down at Punt Rd (drink milo?) but we regularly come out afterwards half asleep, lacking the intensity and forgetting the quick gamestyle that got us half-time leads.
FITNESS
We are miles away from other clubs.
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Big grab by Vickery just outside the goal square. He boots a much needed goal for the team and his first for the afternoon.
Thank goodness for that!
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Vickery goal. We're still playing crap
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Not sure what we do during half-time down at Punt Rd (drink milo?) but we regularly come out afterwards half asleep, lacking the intensity and forgetting the quick gamestyle that got us half-time leads.
FITNESS
We are miles away from other clubs.
I actually agree that lack of fitness compared to other clubs is part of the problem but we are also mentally fragile and dumb. When you're 6 goals up at half-time you know the opposition has one more shot. So you know if you have a big first 10 minutes of the third quarter you can put them away for good and break any remaining spirit of theirs. We come out instead half asleep. No killer instinct!
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Goal to Azz Edwards! He receives the ball on the boundary and snaps from the pocket. A handy goal and his second for the game.
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I was suss after our rnd 1 loss to gold coast even though they were 2 men down before halftime, and then getting overrun by carlton game in round 2 when they were underdone confirmed it. As the season progresses and we get match hardened it will be less of an issue, but gee wiz we are miles off it early on in the season, obviously our preseason program is not good enough
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Not sure what we do during half-time down at Punt Rd (drink milo?) but we regularly come out afterwards half asleep, lacking the intensity and forgetting the quick gamestyle that got us half-time leads.
FITNESS
We are miles away from other clubs.
I actually agree that lack of fitness compared to other clubs is part of the problem but we are also mentally fragile and dumb. When you're 6 goals up at half-time you know the opposition has one more shot. So you know if you have a big first 10 minutes of the third quarter you can put them away for good and break any remaining spirit of theirs. We come out instead half asleep. No killer instinct!
AND SOFT
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I was suss after our rnd 1 loss to gold coast even though they were 2 men down before halftime, and then getting overrun by carlton game in round 2 when they were underdone confirmed it. As the season progresses and we get match hardened it will be less of an issue, but gee wiz we are miles off it early on in the season, obviously our preseason program is not good enough
Yet Burge was claiming over the preseason we had only done 80% of the program prior to 2013 and it would be ramped up to the full program prior to this season :-\.
I wonder if the cap on interchanges has hurt us more than most.
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3/4 time scores:
Richmond 6.4 10.8 12.11-83
Frankston 1.1 4.5 8.7-55
Goals: McBean 3, Bathie 3, A.Edwards 2, Banfield, Stephenson, Elton, Vickery.
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The problem of fitness has been exaggerated by ridiculous split rounds meaning we have had a couple of longer breaks (as is the case this week) which seems to put back our match hardening and keeps us behind other teams.
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3/4 time scores:
Richmond 6.4 10.8 12.11-83
Frankston 1.1 4.5 8.7-55
Goals: McBean 3, Bathie 3, A.Edwards 2, Banfield, Stephenson, Elton, Vickery.
Mcbean >>>>^£>^ Vickory
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The problem of fitness has been exaggerated by ridiculous split rounds meaning we have had a couple of longer breaks (as is the case this week) which seems to put back our match hardening and keeps us behind other teams.
That's why the hawks will spank us silly
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Sorry guys, I nearly choked on a Frankston sausage!
Crap quarter, skills were woeful and we just didn't work for it.
Vickery was slightly better that quarter as was Lennon and Edwards.
Big last quarter conning up.
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I was suss after our rnd 1 loss to gold coast even though they were 2 men down before halftime, and then getting overrun by carlton game in round 2 when they were underdone confirmed it. As the season progresses and we get match hardened it will be less of an issue, but gee wiz we are miles off it early on in the season, obviously our preseason program is not good enough
Yet Burge was claiming over the preseason we had only done 80% of the program prior to 2013 and it would be ramped up to the full program prior to this season :-\.
I wonder if the cap on interchanges has hurt us more than most.
I distinctly recall him saying that too, got me excited :(
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Dominating the first 5 minutes just can't get it on the board. 2 points and an out on the full from 3 shots.
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Frankston goal after another 50 meter penelty.
We're looking better bit should of had the first 3 goals.
12.13.85
9.8.62
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Another to Frankston after bad batch fumble.
12.13.85
10.8.68
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Dominating the first 5 minutes just can't get it on the board. 2 points and an out on the full from 3 shots.
Good to see we've fixed our goalkicking yips ::).
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Another Frankston goal, it's all going to hell.
11points in it now...
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Another costly turnover another Frankston goal.
5 points in it...
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So that's 8 of the last 10 goals to Frankston :facepalm
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Point Frankston were up by 4
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Vickery roves the back of the pack snaps goal!! Up by 10
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Another Vickery goal!!
Standing up when needed.
Up by 16...
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What's happened to McBean since half-time, Loui?
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Another stupid 50 results in Frankston goal.
Back to 10
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Free kick in front of goal to Frankston goal.
Back to 4 points.
We have lost the plot, just don't want yo work for it.
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Up by 6 goals at qt..
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Miles free kick from 50 passes to young misses. Point.
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Frankston nearly coast to coast goal, they muffed it at the end.
30 mind gone in the clock.
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Frankston about to steal victory :P.
Well it's fitting ;D.
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Sorry that's 27 gone on the clock. It's broken
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Point to Elton 6 points in it 28 gone
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Goal to Frankston from a throw-in.
Scores level :P
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Draw.....we suck.
Will do a full write up when I get home.
Very disappointing.
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It's a draw!
:P
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another sterling coaching effort from Tim Clarke
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Thanks to MT and Loui for a great running commentary!
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Final Score:
Richmond 6.4 10.8 12.11 14.15-99
Frankston 1.1 4.5 8.7 15.9-99
Goals: McBean 3, Vickery 3, Bathie 3, A.Edwards 2, Banfield, Stephenson, Elton.
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:lol :birthday :santa
(https://padresteve.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/blazing-saddles-the-french-mistake.jpg)
They'll be pretty excited by the draw at punt road. I'm expecting a very raucous rendition of our new theme song;
Throw out your hands!
Stick out your tush!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake!
VOILA!!
It's party time
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All part of their development.
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All part of their development.
hahahahaha please
just following the lead of their pathetic senior squad.
mentally fragile group
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What an absolute disgrace. Run down by stuffing Frankston FFS.
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@RichmondVFL twitter:
Major ball winners today:
Batsanis 30,
Miles, 30,
Young 28,
A. Edwards 26,
Darrou 21.
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Final Score:
Richmond 6.4 10.8 12.11 14.15-99
Frankston 1.1 4.5 8.7 15.9-99
Goals: McBean 3, Vickery 3, Bathie 3, A.Edwards 2, Banfield, Stephenson, Elton.
A team with mostly AFL pros, who train 6 days a week in elite facilities with numerous support staff at their beck and call, getting run over by a team of semi-pros who train a couple a nights a week down at Frankston Oval and who haven't won a game. Be it mental and/or physical - sorry, that's inexcusable!
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Final Score:
Richmond 6.4 10.8 12.11 14.15-99
Frankston 1.1 4.5 8.7 15.9-99
Goals: McBean 3, Vickery 3, Bathie 3, A.Edwards 2, Banfield, Stephenson, Elton.
A team with mostly AFL pros, who train 6 days a week in elite facilities with numerous support staff at their beck and call, getting run over by a team of semi-pros who train a couple a nights a week down at Frankston Oval and who haven't won a game. Be it mental and/or physical - sorry, that's inexcusable!
There's only 1 team celebrating tonight MT and it won't be Franga.
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Ffs
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Coach should be sacked IMHO and we need to get in a new coach for the Reserves.
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Coach should be sacked IMHO and we need to get in a new coach for the Reserves.
Kevin Sheedy
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Turned up to a sunny Frankston.
Tiges were quick off the mark.moving the ball very quickly by both hand and foot..
Love Concas game early ,thought he was in everything and shows some real grunt.
Our midfield dominated .Thought miles was awesome today.from start to finish was putting his body where others feared.Would more often than not burst out of the pack with the ball.Today this kid won me over,you cant ignore someone who doesn't stop trying all day,and keeps winning his own ball.
Thought Ty was battling early but had a good second half ,with some clever stuff.
Mc bean was ok,but seems to get lost at times.Delivery to him was crap though.
A Edwards had a very good second half.
oren was good.
Elton took some good grabs but I think he goes missing too.
Ohanlon...meh
Darou was solid but gave away a silly free kick late.
How we let them get back into the game beats me.There was a combination of silly free kicks,a lack of running,something Frankston did in the second half.I also.. think we overdo the handball,which results in us going around in circles.
I got the impression todays game might become a regular fixture between theses 2 teams
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Coach should be sacked IMHO and we need to get in a new coach for the Reserves.
Why you would keep the same useless coach when you're supposed to be starting afresh with your own team just defies all common sense. If it was merely a contractual issue then just break the stuffing thing and pay the spud out. Worth the money.
Almost as bad as Hardwick keeping that stuffing cancer Wayne Campbell at the club for a further four years - should've been booted when he took over.
You can't cure the disease unless you cut out 100% of the tumour.
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It's not the Coach lads, it's 100% mental.
We just stopped working.
In the first half we ran, we carried, we played on and played with flare!
The second half we came out and it looked like the players already thought it was in the bag.
We stagnated, nobody moved nobody wanted it. They went bact to hot potato hand passes stuffed about with it so much it was bound to be turned over then when it was it was kick, kick, kick Gosl to Frankston.
What I seen in the second half was the same old Richmond, it was st the coach on the day it's been coached into them over a long period of time.
The other noticeable thing is the second tier fill ins just arn't up to it.
The skill level between the listed and non listed players is glaring. We have no midfield and this was exactly where it was breaking down when transitioning from the back line. McBean could have had 8 or 9 to half time had the forward delivery been up to it. Mind you he dropped the easiest. Mark you've ever seen 10 meters out on his own.
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Coach should be sacked IMHO and we need to get in a new coach for the Reserves.
I've argued that for a while, we need an a experienced coach to develop these kids, the coach is just as wet behind the ears as the playing group and it's telling, that result is a dead set disgrace. We have a dozen or more listed players and draw with these bums. C'mon ...Mcbean kicks 3 in first qtr then doesn't get a kick, what's going on , I demand answers
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Coach should be sacked IMHO and we need to get in a new coach for the Reserves.
I've argued that for a while, we need an a experienced coach to develop these kids, the coach is just as wet behind the ears as the playing group and it's telling, that result is a dead set disgrace. We have a dozen or more listed players and draw with these bums. C'mon ...Mcbean kicks 3 in first qtr then doesn't get a kick, what's going on , I demand answers
I'm surprised BJ that you haven't got the mail On those answers! ;D
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It's not the Coach lads, it's 100% mental.
We just stopped working.
In the first half we ran, we carried, we played on and played with flare!
The second half we came out and it looked like the players already thought it was in the bag.
We stagnated, nobody moved nobody wanted it. They went bact to hot potato hand passes stuffed about with it so much it was bound to be turned over then when it was it was kick, kick, kick Gosl to Frankston.
What I seen in the second half was the same old Richmond, it was st the coach on the day it's been coached into them over a long period of time.
Interesting that we stuff up the same way in the two's as we do in the ones....Paul Roos said the other day that the standard for a club is actually set in the two's not the ones because that's where everyting is learnt.
The other noticeable thing is the second tier fill ins just arn't up to it.
The skill level between the listed and non listed players is glaring. We have no midfield and this was exactly where it was breaking down when transitioning from the back line. McBean could have had 8 or 9 to half time had the forward delivery been up to it. Mind you he dropped the easiest. Mark you've ever seen 10 meters out on his own.
Send the likes of Newman, Edwards, Thomas & Grigg back....they should tear it up at that level and help develop the kids better. Bring up some of the blokes like Batchelor who've been on the fringe of the one's for years for one last shot surrounded by better players as well as the odd kid. It's not as if we'll be making the 8 this year.
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Send the likes of Newman, Edwards, Thomas & Grigg back....they should tear it up at that level and help develop the kids better.
bingo
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was sitting near the fence this arvo and noticed maybe wrongly that we are a quiet bunch out on the park.Anyone else notice this?
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was sitting near the fence this arvo and noticed maybe wrongly that we are a quiet bunch out on the park.Anyone else notice this?
Been noted before......noticed it last year when I watched Coburg....wasn't the only one either.....
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was sitting near the fence this arvo and noticed maybe wrongly that we are a quiet bunch out on the park.Anyone else notice this?
Yep, absolutely no leadership either, it's like every man for themselves!!
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Send the likes of Newman, Edwards, Thomas & Grigg back....they should tear it up at that level and help develop the kids better.
bingo
:clapping
One of the best things ive read for ages
That would be excellent, though dimma wont do it till those players all 35yo plus :shh
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
Miles is a stand out, should be playing imo, Mcdonough is another I'd persist with for 5-6 weeks and see what he's got at senior level.. plus the afore mentioned guys can go back to the twos when lids, maric and rance get back over the next few weeks. Can be done comfortably imo
Think Gordon, Lloyd and Arnott have stepped up and at least shown something since they've come into the senior side
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was sitting near the fence this arvo and noticed maybe wrongly that we are a quiet bunch out on the park.Anyone else notice this?
This issue has been spoken about multiple times regarding our senior side the past 2 weeks on sen. Began after the Collingwood game when Maxwell said we were one of the quieter(st) sides they've faced on field.
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
Could they be any worse? Sometimes players lift when they play at a higher level, surrounded by better players. McIntosh & Lennon look up & see Cotchin & Martin in front of them instead of Barlow & Bastinas. Unproven kids > proven hacks IMO.
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Cotch and the leadership group need to address this
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
Could they be any worse? Sometimes players lift when they play at a higher level, surrounded by better players. McIntosh & Lennon look up & see Cotchin & Martin in front of them instead of Barlow & Bastinas. Unproven kids > proven hacks IMO.
spot on mate, actually your one of few on here who is always bang on the money.
take newman what good is it have him there instead of lennon or even bath.
Someone answer this for me.
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Don't be like that boys.
The last three years Coburg has gone to Frankston and lost.
This year we got a draw even though we were 6 goals up.
In other years we would have been overrun and lost.
We are on the right track. Yep I'm convinced.
This draw proves this given recent years results.
The 21st century dance club will be abuzz with ecstatic RFC blokes.
Woo hoo woo hoo woo hoo.
Let the good times roll.
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Nope completely disagree .the Richmond players will be out the back of kananook creek sucking VB tinnies.
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
Could they be any worse? Sometimes players lift when they play at a higher level, surrounded by better players. McIntosh & Lennon look up & see Cotchin & Martin in front of them instead of Barlow & Bastinas. Unproven kids > proven hacks IMO.
spot on mate, actually your one of few on here who is always bang on the money.
take newman what good is it have him there instead of lennon or even bath.
Someone answer this for me.
Why would we want to do this.
Newman going MIA in the seniors is just as valuable as Miles remaining as a rookie.
Grigg being as soft as melting ice cream is just as critical as watching Lennon in the ressies.
Titch fumbling bumbling and turning the footy over is just as much better than promoting another kid.
I cannot wait for the selection day when Vickery without setting the world on fire for the ressies gets his spot back at the expense of Lloyd, Gordon or McDonough provided he ever gets selected again.
Remember if you scrape into the 8 with a 10-12 record on the back of a soft Grigg type draw it doesn't matter if we get beat by 96 points like the Dons did in 2009. The main thing is we made finals.
Woo hoo woo hoo woo hoo.
Lets not die gracefully lets die with with one pea shooter blazing. This is the new RFC motto.
The skata cycle. 32 years and it still smells like I just got off the can.
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VFL Tigers draw in ANZAC Day clash
richmondfc.com.au
April 25, 2014 7:45 PM
Anthony Miles starred in yet another impressive performance, but wasn’t enough to clinch a win for the VFL Tigers, drawing with Frankston in today’s ANZAC Day match.
Perfect football conditions at Frankston Oval saw Richmond start well, with Ryan Bathie open the Tigers’ scoring account and Aaron Edwards making a successful return from minor knee injury, with a snap goal early in the first term.
The Tigers piled on six goals to one in the first quarter, the side found ways to stop Frankston’s run through the centre of the ground, and the backline worked tirelessly.
After a good half of football, Richmond’s early dominance started to weaken as Frankston kicked four unanswered goals in the third term, before the Tigers managed to convert two for themselves from senior players Ty Vickery and Aaron Edwards.
The last quarter mirrored the third, as Frankston started fast, piling on goals with Richmond unable to halt their momentum, and the final result coming right down to the dying moments of the game.
Miles again was prolific around the contests, finishing with an equal game-high 30 disposals, 13 clearances and six marks. The 21-year-old’s ball-winning efforts, great vision and composure were key components to the Tigers’ impressive performance early, and helped the team stay in the game in the dying minutes.
The midfielder managed to duck and weave through traffic late in the fourth quarter to find Ryan Bathie on the lead in the Tigers’ forward-50, who marked and converted a much-needed goal. Miles was awarded the game’s ANZAC Day Medal, for the best-on-ground player for the away team.
Key forward Liam McBean was also dangerous early, leading hard, taking several grabs and working well at ground level.
McBean worked hard for his three goals, including a classy snap from the forward pocket and a crumbing effort 15m from goal in the second term.
Aaron Edwards moved well all game, unhindered by his recent injured knee injury, as he kicked two snap goals – one from the pocket, and picked up 26 disposals and seven marks. Edwards played both up forward and in a defensive role during the game.
Ty Vickery worked hard all game, playing all key positions at certain stages of the match, taking a big goal-saving mark on the goal line, deep in Frankston’s forward line in the second quarter. His first of three goals didn’t come until the third quarter, but it was much needed after Frankston kicked four unanswered goals in the third term.
His next two majors also came at crucial moments, during Frankston’s surging comeback in the fourth quarter.
Young Tiger Ben Lennon also displayed a solid performance, playing with intensity across half-back. Lennon racked up 18 disposals and seven marks, but showed his intent and defensive pressure with good spoiling efforts.
Defender Ben Darrou was outstanding in the backline, picking up 21 disposals and taking seven marks.
VFL listed players Nathan Batsanis, Ross Young and Luke Conca were also impressive during the game.
Batsanis finished with 30 disposals, seven marks and six tackles, while captain Ross Young led by example picking up 28 disposals and laying five tackles.
Conca was in-and-under contests all game, providing plenty of defensive pressure and finished with 17 touches.
RICHMOND: 6.4 10.8 12.11 14.15 99
FRANKSTON: 1.1 4.5 8.7 15.9 99
Goals: Bathie 3, McBean 3, Vickery 3, A. Edwards 2, Banfield, Elton, Stephenson
Best: Miles, Batsanis, A.Edwards, Darrou, Young, Conca
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-25/vfl-tigers-draw-in-anzac-day-clash
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Fine send all those players back to the 2s,but replace them with who?..i cant see many putting their hand up.
Could they be any worse? Sometimes players lift when they play at a higher level, surrounded by better players. McIntosh & Lennon look up & see Cotchin & Martin in front of them instead of Barlow & Bastinas. Unproven kids > proven hacks IMO.
spot on mate, actually your one of few on here who is always bang on the money.
take newman what good is it have him there instead of lennon or even bath.
Someone answer this for me.
Why would we want to do this.
Newman going MIA in the seniors is just as valuable as Miles remaining as a rookie.
Grigg being as soft as melting ice cream is just as critical as watching Lennon in the ressies.
Titch fumbling bumbling and turning the footy over is just as much better than promoting another kid.
I cannot wait for the selection day when Vickery without setting the world on fire for the ressies gets his spot back at the expense of Lloyd, Gordon or McDonough provided he ever gets selected again.
Remember if you scrape into the 8 with a 10-12 record on the back of a soft Grigg type draw it doesn't matter if we get beat by 96 points like the Dons did in 2009. The main thing is we made finals.
Woo hoo woo hoo woo hoo.
Lets not die gracefully lets die with with one pea shooter blazing. This is the new RFC motto.
The skata cycle. 32 years and it still smells like I just got off the can.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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The skata cycle. 32 years and it still smells like I just got off the can.
A seat well worn, hovering over the snake pit
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Around the state leagues: Out-of-favour Tiger stars
Travis King
afl.com.au
April 25, 2014 6:45 PM
OUT-OF-FAVOUR Richmond forward Ty Vickery has booted three goals for the Tigers’ VFL team in a strong response to his continued hiatus from AFL ranks.
Vickery was among the best in the Tigers' 15.9 (99) to 14.15 (99) draw against Frankston on Anzac Day.
The 200cm big man split his time between attack and the ruck and finished the match with 3.2 – including two majors in a frantic final term as the Dolphins stormed home at Frankston Oval.
"He had a better second half, he competed really well," Richmond VFL coach Tim Clarke told AFL.com.au.
"His attitude and his approach to the game were outstanding. He competed OK in the ruck when he went in there and also when he went forward he was pretty dominant.
"I think he showed a bit of class with some of the marks he took and then with his impact late in the game.
"He ended up having around 16 to 18 touches, which isn't too bad from a big fella.
"He played his role, it's always hard in the VFL, when you're a key forward like him you still rely on good delivery and ball movement.
"We probably didn't look after him enough as a team, or all of our forwards."
Vickery has played the past two matches in the VFL after coming under fire from AFL coach Damien Hardwick for his lack of forward pressure.
"His forward pressure was OK in terms of him coming up the ground. He had a few tackles but I think they were in the middle of the ground when he was playing ruck," Clarke said.
"It's not something which was a stand-out in his game, but he was definitely pushing up the ground and doing everything he could."
Aaron Edwards impressed playing in midfield and as a high half-forward with 26 touches and two goals as he continues to work his way back from a knee injury.
Rookie-listed 22-year-old Anthony Miles had 30 touches and 13 clearances in a classy onball display, while last year's No.12 draft pick Ben Lennon was "very good" off half-back but made some skill errors.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-25/around-the-state-leagues-vickery-in-form
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If vickery stared then no words could describe how good the other half of the team
were!!
He had a purple patch in the last, until then he struggled.
At that level he should be dominating the whole game not a 5 minute pure patch where he kicks 2 goals in 5 minutes. He was no where to be seen in the last 5 minutes where he should have stood up.
With about 30 seconds to go there was a boundary throw in in there forward pocket, Stephenson tapped it down and we won the clearance. The ball was quickly booted up to the wing where we marked it. From here there was NO ONE forward to kick it to! The only player who was running through the middle of the ground to try and provide an option was Stephenson!!! That's right, the guy who only moments before palmed down the clearance. In the end it was kicked to Stephenson who ended up in a 3 on one ball spills siren goes the rest is history!!!
Why was Stephenson the only guy trying to get forward?? He must have ran past half the team to get to the position he was in. Not saying we were ever going to score from it but hell at least we would have had options to keep the ball moving forward.
It was a pathetic set up and just shows how little any of our senior players can think for themselves.
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I think young Miles helped keep us in the game in the dying minutes with his never ending clearances.
Actually his game today was one of the best I have seen from a tigers AFL player in 12 months
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I think young Miles helped keep us in the game in the dying minutes with his never ending clearances.
Actually his game today was one of the best I have seen from a tigers AFL player in 12 months
I 100% agree, but in saying that the poor bastard looked completely stuffed from about halfway through the 3rd but kept finding the energy to keep going.
He was the only player that looked like he wanted it all day, he actually looked like he wanted to be there FFS.
Unlike others who weren't seeming to give two hoots. I didn't even realise O'Hanlan was playing until the last quarter!
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Tim Clarke has caught the "outstanding" bug from Dimma.
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If Vickery starred, Miles played better than Garry Ablett Snr or Jnr ever have!
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Oh look.....
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Vickery shines for Richmond
Brent Diamond
The Age
April 26, 2014
Richmond forward Ty Vickery provided a steady hand with three crucial second-half goals in his quest for form in Friday's draw against Frankston in the VFL at Frankston Oval.
While it wasn't enough to ensure the Tigers a victory, Vickery's big grab just outside the goal square in the third term and goal lifted his confidence, while stopping a run of three consecutive Frankston goals.
Jackson Coleman helped ignite Frankston's charge with two of those goals before Vickery and Aaron Edwards, playing against his former team, steadied with late goals to give the Tigers a 28-point buffer at the last change.
Vickery again held up a fast-finishing Frankston, who had got within five-points after a run of four consecutive goals, by bouncing through his second goal and minutes later took a strong mark over opponent Scott Simpson to kick another.
The 23-year-old finished with 3.2, 17 disposals, seven marks and 17 hit-outs, spending time up forward, in the ruck and on the bench.
Tigers VFL coach Tim Clarke said he was impressed with Vickery's output, particularly in the second half as he attacked the ball with purpose when the match was on the line.
Richmond coach Damian Hardwick said during the week that Vickery, in his second consecutive VFL outing, needed to work on different parts of his game including his defensive pressure to have a chance of returning for next Sunday's clash against Geelong.
Certainly, there was no lack of effort as Vickery sensed the need to lift when required.
Edwards, with 26 disposals and two goals, was superb in his return from injury, while Anthony Miles racked up 30 touches along with Nathan Batsanis. Liam McBean, who is yet to make his AFL debut, and Ryan Bathie each finished with three goals.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/vickery-shines-for-richmond-20140425-379zn.html
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Vickery kicked 3.
McBean kicked 3.
Bathie kicked 3.
Would like to know who drew the toughest opponent and how many of each goals were cheapys over the back or gimmes set up by tye hard work of others.
Anyway, the last thing we need is to bring back a pea heart off the back of one ok game against a crapola vfl team
McBean has better form over the last few weeks from what I understand
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Can someone who was there please give me their thoughts on Lennon's game?
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
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Can someone who was there please give me their thoughts on Lennon's game?
Did a couple of very nice things certainly has footy smarts. He did a very nice tap back over his head to a player running past behind, was an awesome piece of play! He also took a couple of good overhead marks but on the flip side he fluffed a easy kick running into the 50, had mcBean on a perfect lead and he tried to stab it low the ball pretty much didn't get off the ground and landed 10 meters in front of McBean. He should have hit Beano on the chest lace out.
Also I didn't think he got involved in the contest enough, hung around the outside a little Grigg style, would have been nice to see him go a little harder at times.
He's certainly showing all the signs of being a good player but I wouldn't be elevating him on yesterday's game alone.
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Thanks lads.
Gig, im pretty sure his overhead ability was a selling point when we drafted him.
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
he was excellent overhead as a junior. He's a bit like Lids minus the speed.
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
he was excellent overhead as a junior. He's a bit like Lids minus the speed.
Yeah he even disappears for long periods during matches too.
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
he was excellent overhead as a junior. He's a bit like Lids minus the speed.
Yeah he even disappears for long periods during matches too.
Didn't do that as a junior. Where did you find that info from?
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
he was excellent overhead as a junior. He's a bit like Lids minus the speed.
Yeah he even disappears for long periods during matches too.
Didn't do that as a junior. Where did you find that info from?
Relax, it was joke.
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I reckon he did well.Reads the play well,is very good by foot.And what surprised me was that he seemed more than fair overhead.Must be darn close to senior call up..My apologies for leaving him out of my summary yesterday.
he was excellent overhead as a junior. He's a bit like Lids minus the speed.
Yeah he even disappears for long periods during matches too.
Didn't do that as a junior. Where did you find that info from?
Relax, it was joke.
Oh. People around here bag the club so much, it's difficult to know who is joking and who is serious.
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just heard on ABC that the last time we met Frankston as Richmond Reserves in 2000 was also a draw , so consecutive draws 14 years apart
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Dolphins our VFL suns, pathetic really and an indictment on our club. Until we own these biatches were going nowhere.
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Its clear the club has put 0% work into defending momentum.
After the loss in the final vs Carlton where we gave up a lead of 30 odd points, this is inexcusable. Absolute disgrace that we have to cop this sort of crap. The playing list is as strong as it has been for 10 years yet regardless of who we play against if they have the momentum we have no structure, no leadership, no tactics or direction to deal with it. Its obvious that the best players in the team are left with the responsibility of dealing with wrestling the momentum back.
FFS, Fix it.
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Vickery kicked 3.
McBean kicked 3.
Bathie kicked 3.
Would like to know who drew the toughest opponent and how many of each goals were cheapys over the back or gimmes set up by tye hard work of others.
Anyway, the last thing we need is to bring back a pea heart off the back of one ok game against a crapola vfl team
McBean has better form over the last few weeks from what I understand
Mcbean looks to kick most of his goals from ground level working his way around lumbering vfl Backman rather than towering marks, he won't get away with at at afl level tv took 7 grabs, if griff doesn't own it tomoz, he s out tv is back in, simple
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Its clear the club has put 0% work into defending momentum.
After the loss in the final vs Carlton where we gave up a lead of 30 odd points, this is inexcusable. Absolute disgrace that we have to cop this sort of crap. The playing list is as strong as it has been for 10 years yet regardless of who we play against if they have the momentum we have no structure, no leadership, no tactics or direction to deal with it. Its obvious that the best players in the team are left with the responsibility of dealing with wrestling the momentum back.
FFS, Fix it.
I find the problem is we've put too much work into slowing down play. So much so that we play slow now far too much.
Our best football is when we go long and quick. Our worst when we chip and go short.
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Its clear the club has put 0% work into defending momentum.
After the loss in the final vs Carlton where we gave up a lead of 30 odd points, this is inexcusable. Absolute disgrace that we have to cop this sort of crap. The playing list is as strong as it has been for 10 years yet regardless of who we play against if they have the momentum we have no structure, no leadership, no tactics or direction to deal with it. Its obvious that the best players in the team are left with the responsibility of dealing with wrestling the momentum back.
FFS, Fix it.
I find the problem is we've put too much work into slowing down play. So much so that we play slow now far too much.
Our best football is when we go long and quick. Our worst when we chip and go short.
It's soft, scardy cat footy.
All the good is undone by the bad.
Bunch of overpaid prima donnas that think they're finals team because they played a final. :banghead
These blokes have pictures of themselves on their ceiling.
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Vickery kicked 3.
McBean kicked 3.
Bathie kicked 3.
Would like to know who drew the toughest opponent and how many of each goals were cheapys over the back or gimmes set up by tye hard work of others.
Anyway, the last thing we need is to bring back a pea heart off the back of one ok game against a crapola vfl team
McBean has better form over the last few weeks from what I understand
Mcbean looks to kick most of his goals from ground level working his way around lumbering vfl Backman rather than towering marks, he won't get away with at at afl level tv took 7 grabs, if griff doesn't own it tomoz, he s out tv is back in, simple
seems to me without seeing the game that it was a typical vickery game. kicks two or 3 goals with little else and the little else is overlooked.
how many contested marks. how many 1% how many h/o how many contests given. bobbing up for two or 3 ihere or there is the problem when he gives so little in other areas.
i can see em talking him up and his game they did when he was in the seniors doing exactly the same thing. yep in next week never mind the real issues have not been addressed in the slightest way.
its a real worry that nearly all of our talls bar ivan lack mongrel aggression and toughness. vickery is the worst of em all in these areas.
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Vickery kicked 3.
McBean kicked 3.
Bathie kicked 3.
Would like to know who drew the toughest opponent and how many of each goals were cheapys over the back or gimmes set up by tye hard work of others.
Anyway, the last thing we need is to bring back a pea heart off the back of one ok game against a crapola vfl team
McBean has better form over the last few weeks from what I understand
Mcbean looks to kick most of his goals from ground level working his way around lumbering vfl Backman rather than towering marks, he won't get away with at at afl level tv took 7 grabs, if griff doesn't own it tomoz, he s out tv is back in, simple
So all the other multiple pressure acts and inside 50's and tackles that Griff does don't count because Vickery kicked 3 goals (the last 2 in the last few minutes) and took 7 marks against a weak VFL side?
Common BJ, that is the most stupid post I have ever read…... :banghead
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Common BJ, that is the most stupid post I have ever read…... :banghead
geez, that's a big call there YBB
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Common BJ, that is the most stupid post I have ever read…... :banghead
geez, that's a big call there YBB
i know, but someone had to say it! ;D
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Injuries have taken their toll this year.
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VIDEOS:
Match highlights: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/vfl-highlights-vickerys-three-goals
VFL Wrap R4: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-04-28/vfl-wrap-up-round-4
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Ressies with the same problem as the Seniors :P.
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“The team was quite good, we worked really well together, [played] some of the best footy we’ve played,” Richmond VFL coach, Tim Clarke, told Roar Vision.
“We’ve struggled with our offensive ball movement most of the year and we’ve finally come to a game and played for two-and-a-half quarters of the style of football we expect from our players.
"We were really pleased with how we played in the first two-and-a-half quarters, but very disappointed that we couldn’t finish off the game.”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-29/clarke-delighted-with-edwards-efforts
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“We’ve struggled with our ball most of the year
EFA
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Ressies with the same problem as the Seniors :P.
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“The team was quite good, we worked really well together, [played] some of the best footy we’ve played,” Richmond VFL coach, Tim Clarke, told Roar Vision.
“We’ve struggled with our offensive ball movement most of the year and we’ve finally come to a game and played for two-and-a-half quarters of the style of football we expect from our players.
"We were really pleased with how we played in the first two-and-a-half quarters, but very disappointed that we couldn’t finish off the game.”
Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-29/clarke-delighted-with-edwards-efforts
This is why we are and always will be mediocre with this she'll be right, one finals game is enough, near enough is good enough attitude that is tigeritis.
It's a Prima Donna Paradise!
It's a Soft Sissy Society!
It's a Mediocre Mecca!
.....The Egg club.
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They all get smiley stamps on their hands after the game.
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They all get smiley stamps on their hands after the game.
just half of one.
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Richmond VFL coach Tim Clarke's summary of how the AFL-listed players performed:
Jake Batchelor
14 Disposals, 5 Marks
Didn’t play as well as the previous week, and needs to get more involved offensively. Still played well on his direct opponent, but we expect more from him at VFL level.
Todd Banfield
1 Goal, 15 Disposals
Best game he’s played for the year. He had 15 touches, kicked a goal, had two or three shots and finally brought the energy that we’ve been waiting for him to provide.
Ben Darrou
21 Disposals, 7 Marks
Outstanding again. Had one goal kicked on him but his defensive positioning was terrific and offensively he contributed really well to the side.
Aaron Edwards
2 Goals, 26 Disposals, 7 Marks
He played a role through the midfield, which was a bit different to where he’s been playing before he got injured. He’ll be a really good player for us this year and always gives everything he’s got.
Todd Elton
1 Goals, 19 Disposals
Keeps improving. He performed well as a forward and competed well when required. He went into the ruck at different times and then went down back in the last quarter and played his role well.
Ben Lennon
18 Disposals, 7 Marks
Ben was really good off half-back. He was rested at three-quarter time by the coaches in case he was needed in the seniors on Sunday. He had plenty of intercept marks and some really attacking play, but we still need him to work on his disposal.
Liam McBean
3 Goals, 8 Disposals, 4 Marks
His first half was exceptional. He still needs to keep working on the basic things that we’re trying to improve with him as a player, so that if he goes up to AFL, he can really fight and compete.
Kamdyn McIntosh
17 Disposals, 6 Marks
Played on the wing most of the day and contributed a lot in the first half, but then went out of the game in the second half. We expect some more involvement from him.
Anthony Miles
30 Disposals, 13 Clearances, 6 Marks
Miles was outstanding again and has been our most consistent player so far this season. Had 30 touches, 13 clearances, five inside 50s and a shot on goal. His hardness at the ball and his approach to his footy is second to none.
Brett O’Hanlon
16 Disposals, 5 Tackles
Another good game, but slightly down on his numbers from previous weeks. He used the ball much better, which is pleasing, but we need him getting another five or 10 touches and hitting the scoreboard.
Orren Stephenson
1 Goals, 25 hitouts, 18 Disposals, 10 Marks
Orren was fantastic for three quarters. He was the most dominant big guy on the ground, but we just needed a bigger effort from him in the last term. He had three or four shots on goal and 10 marks.
Ty Vickery
3 Goals, 17 hitouts, 17 Disposals, 7 Marks, 3 Tackles
Ty was terrific, and played a lot of time in the ruck. He was much better with the defensive side of his game. It was really pleasing to see a guy challenged and come back to VFL with an outstanding attitude, and he kicked three important goals in the second half.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-04-29/the-vfl-report-round-4
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Would love to see one of these reports on an Edwards/Grigg/Newman/petterd.
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Would love to see one of these reports on an Edwards/Grigg/Newman/petterd.
"10 laps, 3 chicken and chips, 1 shower.
Tried hard all day but just couldn't get his hands on the ball. We expect more but should bounce back next week. "
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Bounce straight back into the ones.
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How's Pat Contin going?
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Bounce straight back into the ones.
This is what will happen if Hardwick actually did drop the likes of Grigg, Edwards, Houli, Newman, Chaplin & Petterd - the kids /replacements would come in and unless they all had absolute blinders and we won , they'd cop the blame and Hardwick would say "oh look we really missed the "experience" and "bigger bodies" of blokes like Grigg, Edwards, Houli, Newman, Chaplin & Petterd out there today..."
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Mcbean looks to kick most of his goals from ground level working his way around lumbering vfl Backman rather than towering marks, he won't get away with at at afl level
Agree. Saw a bit of that pre season.
AFL coaches will match him up accordingly.