One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 08, 2014, 10:09:26 PM
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Any spare deckchairs to swap? :P
Fire away ...
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Season is over. Play the kids. Bring in the biscuit and Elton
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Out: Deledio, Edwards, Morris,
In: Helbig, Arnot, Darrou
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no one cares
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no one cares
Eff em all. If its a home game I hope they draw a crowd under 10,000 and the pressure really ramps up.
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Chaplin. Houli. Pettard
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The bottom really has fallen out .....could not give a flying frig anymore....play the deck chairs.
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Chaplin. Houli. Pettard
Agree with Chaplin and Petterd. Would axe Morris and Edwards before Houli. The bump and 'taking the feet' out rule have really limited Morris's effectiveness — he just can't go hard and low any more. He doesn't have much else to offer. Chaplin has had it, bring back Grimes, maybe try Griffiths down back.
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Eff em. Let em do what they want. They supposedly know better.
Yeah, pick houli, Vickery and their hole mates :-[
Its one big club and we aint in it. Just keep sending your money
I sleep well at night. Do they?
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Eff em. Let em do what they want. They supposedly know better.
Yeah, pick houli, Vickery and their behindhole mates :-[
Its one big club and we aint in it. Just keep sending your money
I sleep well at night. Do they?
theyre just laughing at us for paying money every year and funding their lifestyles.
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Hampson in for Vickery ( Hampson has to play against Sandilands )
McBean in for Griffiths
Jackson back for Thomas
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Hampson in for Vickery ( Hampson has to play against Sandilands )
McBean in for Griffiths
Jackson back for Thomas
McBean is out injured Jack, hasn't played for 3 weeks, he won't play
I'd bring n Helbig for Thomas
Time to play some of the kids and see what they offer. Rather than the usual suspects who offer close to zilch
We have number of kids who are coming out of contract and their futures are on the line. Not sure how anyone can make a call on any player who isn't given any opportunities
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The bottom really has fallen out .....could not give a flying frig anymore....play the deck chairs.
Why play the deckchairs just play the Titanic it's going to sink anyway so who gives a stuff.
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I'd rather play Griffiths in the ruck as back up in the role Vickery has failed abysmally at in the last 18 months. I'd bring O'Hanlon in and see what he has to offer.
Thomas can be replaced by either, Arnot or Helbig.
Then it gets trickier as whether someone like Petterd, Batchelor, Foley make way for someone else.
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RFC Lifejacket, anyone??
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RFC Lifejacket, anyone??
Surely not Ox. The RFC lifejacket tears when you pull the cord.
It's down with the ship at Punt Rd.
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Not sure why we all want to drop Thomas. He's not the long term answer but he's one of the first blokes I'd pick at the moment. He played pretty well. At least he's tries his guts out.
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Dice is right
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It comes down to this.
We hate Richmond players, so we're not going to like implants
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Not sure why we all want to drop Thomas. He's not the long term answer but he's one of the first blokes I'd pick at the moment. He played pretty well. At least he's tries his guts out.
Maybe so but he gets in the way at times. You can try too hard if you know what I mean.
Not playing this week anyway. Thank you MRP.
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Not sure why we all want to drop Thomas. He's not the long term answer but he's one of the first blokes I'd pick at the moment. He played pretty well. At least he's tries his guts out.
Maybe so but he gets in the way at times. You can try too hard if you know what I mean.
Not playing this week anyway. Thank you MRP.
Funny u should say that.
Ive been thinking They all try too hard
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Not sure why we all want to drop Thomas. He's not the long term answer but he's one of the first blokes I'd pick at the moment. He played pretty well. At least he's tries his guts out.
Maybe so but he gets in the way at times. You can try too hard if you know what I mean.
Not playing this week anyway. Thank you MRP.
Funny u should say that.
Ive been thinking They all try too hard
:lol :rollin :lol
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Hampson in for Vickery ( Hampson has to play against Sandilands )
McBean in for Griffiths
Jackson back for Thomas
McBean is out injured Jack, hasn't played for 3 weeks, he won't play
I'd bring n Helbig for Thomas
Time to play some of the kids and see what they offer. Rather than the usual suspects who offer close to zilch
We have number of kids who are coming out of contract and their futures are on the line. Not sure how anyone can make a call on any player who isn't given any opportunities
McBean wants to play this week
AFL or VFL
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dont we all
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Hampson in for Vickery ( Hampson has to play against Sandilands )
McBean in for Griffiths
Jackson back for Thomas
McBean is out injured Jack, hasn't played for 3 weeks, he won't play
I'd bring n Helbig for Thomas
Time to play some of the kids and see what they offer. Rather than the usual suspects who offer close to zilch
We have number of kids who are coming out of contract and their futures are on the line. Not sure how anyone can make a call on any player who isn't given any opportunities
McBean wants to play this week
AFL or VFL
Then it will be VFL not AFL
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Hampson in for Vickery ( Hampson has to play against Sandilands )
McBean in for Griffiths
Jackson back for Thomas
McBean is out injured Jack, hasn't played for 3 weeks, he won't play
I'd bring n Helbig for Thomas
Time to play some of the kids and see what they offer. Rather than the usual suspects who offer close to zilch
We have number of kids who are coming out of contract and their futures are on the line. Not sure how anyone can make a call on any player who isn't given any opportunities
Helbig for Thomas? You should try and get a job at the RFC WP, you would fit right in. Dimma's right hand man.
Thomas has averaged 25 touches and had 21 tackles in the last 3 weeks.
Let's drop a bloke like that ILO other softies just because he is older! Or from another club.
stuff that!
Surely 10 others go before Thomas.
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Out: Vickery(susp), Lennon, Griffiths, McDonough
In: Hampson, O'Hanlon, Elton, Helbig
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10 goal+ loss coming up.
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Helbig for Thomas? You should try and get a job at the RFC WP, you would fit right in. Dimma's right hand man.
Thomas has averaged 25 touches and had 21 tackles in the last 3 weeks.
Let's drop a bloke like that ILO other softies just because he is older! Or from another club.
stuff that!
Surely 10 others go before Thomas.
Big tone, before you whack me think you may need to get up on current events ;D
Thomas has copped a week from the MRP, he is going to be a forced change.
I never said to drop him, he sort of drops himself because of the suspension doesn't he?
so based on that I'd bring Helbig for him.
Someone has to replace him don't they?
So why not Helbig? Or Arnott? Rather than just bring back those who continually let us down
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Thomas got suspended along with Vickery
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Don't care what Thomas' numbers are - he's stuffing slow, useless and not the future. Season's over, stop wasting games on old hacks and give the kids like Arnot & Helbig a go. Results mean SFA from here on in. Time to see what the rest of the list is made of.
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Helbig for Thomas? You should try and get a job at the RFC WP, you would fit right in. Dimma's right hand man.
Thomas has averaged 25 touches and had 21 tackles in the last 3 weeks.
Let's drop a bloke like that ILO other softies just because he is older! Or from another club.
stuff that!
Surely 10 others go before Thomas.
Big tone, before you whack me think you may need to get up on current events ;D
Thomas has copped a week from the MRP, he is going to be a forced change.
I never said to drop him, he sort of drops himself because of the suspension doesn't he?
so based on that I'd bring Helbig for him.
Someone has to replace him don't they?
So why not Helbig? Or Arnott? Rather than just bring back those who continually let us down
to me if we wanted to replace thomas if hes suspended the like for like type would have to be arnot. give the lad a game. bring helbig in play him across h/b.
we cant make finals surely that is abundantly clear to all and sundry at that rabble. do the right thing and look at those who havent had a go. just maybe we might find a player or two.
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The Barometer - Round 13
Herald-Sun
9 June 2014
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Ross Lyon put it perfectly in 2008 when he said: “Reputations really count for nothing”. The master tactician didn’t baulk at selection either, dropping Nick Dal Santo and Stephen Milne to the VFL. History tells us they were better for the life lesson. Richmond coach Damien Hardwick must act, and he could do a lot worse than channel Lyon in making similar calls this week. Brett Deledio springs to mind, he stunk yesterday. The midfielder spent more energy backchatting umpires and tangling with Michael Firrito than he did trying to win the ball and steady the ship for Richmond. No point only going after low-hanging fruit (Ty Vickery, Ben Griffiths, Ben Lennon), Troy Chaplin and even Jack Riewoldt — two of his three goals in junktime — could do with a sharpen up.
ON THE CUSP: No VFL action this week so Tigers will need to go back to the well to find replacements ahead of Saturday’s crunch clash with Fremantle. Shaun Hampson could earn an instant reprieve replacing Vickery, Aaron Edwards kicked four last week in the VFL and should push for selection. Daniel Jackson, Shaun Grigg, Dylan Grimes and Reece Conca must pass fitness tests to play.
GILBERT GARDINER’S FORECAST: Sorry Tigers, but it’s only going to get worse with Fremantle and Sydney on the horizon. The only positive to take out of the miserable loss to North was Dustin Martin’s brilliant first half and Tigers’ debutant Anthony Miles’ — rookie recruited from GWS — refusing to give up.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/round-13-afl-barometer-whos-hot-whos-not-and-whos-in-line-stuff-1226948179693
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Don't care what Thomas' numbers are - he's stuffing slow, useless and not the future. Season's over, stop wasting games on old hacks and give the kids like Arnot & Helbig a go. Results mean SFA from here on. Time to see what the rest of the list is made of.
mate id give him a one yr contract. slow maybe, useless hardly hes been stuffing great. not the future hes 26 if he performs at this level all the time we have a 4 to 6 yr player. old or not hes in front of by some margin grigg, arnot, banfield, played better than conca, s edweards, ellis, foley, gordon, grigg, helbig, jackson, mcdonough, newman, petterd.
but hey lets just cut everyone over 25. throw all the kids in and watch em get slaughterd. did you see what happened to melbourne the last what 6 7 yrs and you want that for us.
when i look at him this yr compared to the previous yrs it is chalk and cheese. hes been bloody good and yes he still has his fair share of howlers. what he currently brings far outweighs any of his weaknesses atm and if you cant see it you have blinkers on.
statistically at afl level this yr hes improved that much hes gone of the scale. and im happy to point it out. why complain about his pace hes an inside player lots of clubs have blokes no quicker than him.
mate go look at the comments i constantly made about him just before and after we drafted him. there was no way on earth i wanted him, slow cant find it cant kick poor decisions etc etc. hes improved enormously every single aspect of his game. and he deserves another yr. i reckon im big enough to say i was wrong seems others well they keep barking up the wrong tree.
you want a clean out well theres so many worse performed players than thomas it aint funny go have a go at one of them. you keep on backing in a kid who aint too quick himself is supposed to be inside but barely touches it 10 times a game. im not sure arnot will get anywhere near thomas level at afl the clock is ticking.
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I'm available for selection. I reckon I'm fitter than at least half the list. I don't have great skills but I'll run both ways unlike half the list. Also reckon I'm more courageous than Ellis, however so is my 4 month old.
Out: Anyone
In: Pope
What have we got to lose?
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Bollocks claw he's a stuffing poo truck and if he ends up a 4-6 year player we really are stuffed. This is his ceiling, he won't get better. He hasn't been better than Petterd for a start and why assume he's been better than a whole bunch of VFL kids just because they haven't been picked - Miles in one game's already shown that upgrading him was a massive mistake. Arnot laid 9 tackles in his last game being played virtually as a small forward. Maybe go watch some VFL matches for yourself...get a mate to send tapes over or something. FMD you're always banging on about playing younger blokes because they have more potential upside, this ain't the bloke to making exceptions to that rule for. We've already got enough "experience" without him.
Melbourne got slaughtered because firstly they were tanking and secondly they were poorly coached. Really isn't that much more experience in their list next year compared to last. They've brought in Bernie Vince and who else apart from kids? Oh that's right a bloke called Roos. Funny that.
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Bollocks claw he's a stuffing poo truck and if he ends up a 4-6 year player we really are stuffed. This is his ceiling, he won't get better. He hasn't been better than Petterd for a start and why assume he's been better than a whole bunch of VFL kids just because they haven't been picked - Miles in one game's already shown that upgrading him was a massive mistake. Arnot laid 9 tackles in his last game being played virtually as a small forward. Maybe go watch some VFL matches for yourself...get a mate to send tapes over or something. FMD you're always banging on about playing younger blokes because they have more potential upside, this ain't the bloke to making exceptions to that rule for. We've already got enough "experience" without him.
Melbourne got sluaghtered because firstly they were tanking and secondly they were poorly coached. Really isn't that much more experience in their list next year compared to last. They've brought in Bernie Vince and who else apart from kids? Oh that's right a bloke called Roos.
mate we are going to have to disagree. if this right now is his ceiling and he can maintain it i will take it every day of the week.
thomas this yr has in the main been great. he may slip back to mediocrity and you can say i told you so. me i reckon hes earnt a one yr contract. we dont have different philosphys we both want to see lots of kids played i just dont want to see em go over the top and go two paces and get their heads blown of. oh and while miles was good he was no better than thomas.
mate they both played well. im not going to sink the boots into a bloke whos going pretty well has improved at the level enormously is out performing most getting a game consistently just because hes 26 yrs old.
when and if he drops away i will bag him then and only then.
and your wrong about melboyurne but i cant be stuffed arguing the point with ya.,
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I'm sure most will agree with you over me and I realise he brings those tough, hard qualities and effort to the side that we've all been crying out for, but I just don't think he's a good footballer at all- certainly not much better than Lonergan who we delisted last year with barely a game and who I believe we brought in Thomas to replace as an experienced hard at it midfield stop gap/depth player in fact their careers were almost identical- and that it's short-sighted and counter-productive in the long run to be playing him ahead of younger similar types like Arnot & Helbig who can do the same job, especially now with nothing left to play for.
We've got too many duds as it is and thanks to our idiot list managers we're going to be stuck with a few for the next couple of years, so why keep an extra one we can actually get rid of now?
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Bring in Arnot.
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Bring in Arnot.
Delist arnot
Bring in king / Grigg / Newman
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Player K HB D M G B T HO I50 FF FA AF SC
Bachar Houli 18 12 30 5 0 0 0 0 3 1 2 88 108
Dustin Martin 19 9 28 6 4 1 4 0 3 1 4 123 108
Matt Thomas 8 16 24 8 1 0 4 0 2 2 1 101 103
Trent Cotchin 13 11 24 5 0 1 4 1 3 0 0 94 81
Brandon Ellis 12 11 23 7 0 0 5 0 1 1 0 100 102
Nick Vlastuin 9 11 20 6 0 0 3 0 4 1 1 77 74
Nathan Foley 6 13 19 0 0 0 5 0 5 0 0 64 71
Anthony Miles 12 7 19 4 0 0 6 0 1 4 1 87 83
Brett Deledio 9 9 18 4 0 0 4 0 4 0 3 64 68
Ricky Petterd 12 6 18 7 0 0 1 0 5 2 1 72 73
Alex Rance 8 10 18 6 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 60 72
Ivan Maric 8 9 17 6 1 0 1 24 2 2 2 90 85
Shane Edwards 10 4 14 2 1 0 8 0 5 0 0 82 79
Jack Riewoldt 10 3 13 5 3 3 3 0 2 1 2 79 67
Matthew Mcdonough 5 8 13 3 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 53 58
Steven Morris 3 9 12 4 1 0 2 0 1 0 1 50 54
Tyrone Vickery 9 2 11 5 1 1 2 9 3 2 0 72 73
Matthew Dea 7 4 11 2 1 0 3 0 2 2 2 49 74
Troy Chaplin 5 4 9 3 0 0 1 0 0 2 3 29 41
Jake Batchelor 5 4 9 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 36 49
Ben Lennon 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 13
Benjamin Griffiths 2 0 2 1 0 1 3 1 1 0 2 17 11
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Two definite changes due to suspension
OUTS: Vickery & Thomas (both suspended)
INS: ..whoever
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Two definite changes due to suspension
OUTS: Vickery & Thomas (both suspended)
INS: ..whoever
Terrific. Just terrific???
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Two definite changes due to suspension
OUTS: Vickery & Thomas (both suspended)
INS: ..whoever
Terrific. Just terrific???
Let me see the actual "Ins" on Thursday and then I'm sure there will be a "Terrific, just terific TM in there
Can't just hand them out for no reason ;D
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Helbig for Thomas? You should try and get a job at the RFC WP, you would fit right in. Dimma's right hand man.
Thomas has averaged 25 touches and had 21 tackles in the last 3 weeks.
Let's drop a bloke like that ILO other softies just because he is older! Or from another club.
stuff that!
Surely 10 others go before Thomas.
Big tone, before you whack me think you may need to get up on current events ;D
Thomas has copped a week from the MRP, he is going to be a forced change.
I never said to drop him, he sort of drops himself because of the suspension doesn't he?
so based on that I'd bring Helbig for him.
Someone has to replace him don't they?
So why not Helbig? Or Arnott? Rather than just bring back those who continually let us down
My apologies WP, I had missed that. I just thought you were on about him again like previous weeks. :cheers
P.S. I recon you would do a better job than Hardwick. How the hell didn't Miles get promoted and get a game 5 weeks ago??
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Helbig for Thomas? You should try and get a job at the RFC WP, you would fit right in. Dimma's right hand man.
Thomas has averaged 25 touches and had 21 tackles in the last 3 weeks.
Let's drop a bloke like that ILO other softies just because he is older! Or from another club.
stuff that!
Surely 10 others go before Thomas.
Big tone, before you whack me think you may need to get up on current events ;D
Thomas has copped a week from the MRP, he is going to be a forced change.
I never said to drop him, he sort of drops himself because of the suspension doesn't he?
so based on that I'd bring Helbig for him.
Someone has to replace him don't they?
So why not Helbig? Or Arnott? Rather than just bring back those who continually let us down
My apologies WP, I had missed that. I just thought you were on about him again like previous weeks. :cheers
P.S. I recon you would do a better job than Hardwick. How the hell didn't Miles get promoted and get a game 5 weeks ago??
Try 12 weeks ago instead of your hack mate Thomarse.
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Bring in Arnot.
Delist arnot
Bring in king / Grigg / Newman
You are kidding right?
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Bring in Arnot.
Delist arnot
Bring in king / Grigg / Newman
You are kidding right?
Yes, yes he is :clapping
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In the Mix - Round 13
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
10 June 2014
Richmond
There will be at least two changes with Ty Vickery accepting a two-match ban for striking and Matt Thomas suspended for a week for rough conduct. Shaun Hampson was omitted last week and will likely replace Vickery while Dan Jackson (hip flexor), Shaun Grigg (hamstring), Dylan Grimes (toe) and Reece Conca (groin) didn't come up for Sunday night's loss to North Melbourne and could be OK. They all trained in some capacity, with the exception of Grigg, late last week, indicating their complaints might not be too severe. The VFL team had a bye at the weekend. Chris Newman is on track to return from a calf injury but it could be in the VFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-10/in-the-mix-round-13
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Lets hope Newman plays VFL and the club doesn't panic and rush him straight back.
Would hate to see a kid like Dea or McDonough make way. :help
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Leave Hampson out. Griffith can back up Maric. Would like to see them play O'Hanlon.
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In:
Helbig - needs game time like Dea to show what he can offer
Elton - lets play the kid, could surprise and at least takes pack marks
O'Hanlon - lead up forward with a great leg
Out:
Thomas
Vickery
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
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Leave hampson out, play a man down
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In:
Helbig - needs game time like Dea to show what he can offer
Elton - lets play the kid, could surprise and at least takes pack marks
O'Hanlon - lead up forward with a great leg
Out:
Thomas
Vickery
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
Those Houli moments u speak of are a tradition started by Nathan foley.
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Out:
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
Agree. He also spent a fair part of the game on Brent Harvey. And I use the term ' on ' very loosely.
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Out:
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
Agree. He also spent a fair part of the game on Brent Harvey. And I use the term ' on ' very loosely.
i.e. "in his wake"
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In:
Helbig - needs game time like Dea to show what he can offer
Elton - lets play the kid, could surprise and at least takes pack marks
O'Hanlon - lead up forward with a great leg
Out:
Thomas
Vickery
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
helbig for houli.
arnot for thomas.
elton for vickery
fwd line goes
h/f martin - elton - lennon
ff/ shankwards - riewoldt - griffiths 2nd ruck.
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Amazing the people want Houli out
I must go to the wrong ground each week or you people just don't go to the games
He has been ok last 2 weeks are gave a lot of run and carry out of D50
He is no 14 isn't he .lol
Give him a break
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Bacha soft as Sgrigg
Open your eyes Ray
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I'm glad Grigg and Thomas are out.
Anyway, the changes this week:
Out Vickery Thomas Petterd(not afl standard)
In Elton Jackson Conca
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Is Jackson afl standard
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In:
Helbig - needs game time like Dea to show what he can offer
Elton - lets play the kid, could surprise and at least takes pack marks
O'Hanlon - lead up forward with a great leg
Out:
Thomas
Vickery
Houli - not a fan and never have been but his game last week showed how getting hard balls just isn't his go. Yes he got a few but its so unnatural for him it stands out big time. Still has too many Houli moments like handball to the first team mate he sees even though they are under extreme pressure. Kicks to one vs two when we are out numbered too often. Simply cant play soft players as they bring the whole team down.
helbig for houli.
arnot for thomas.
elton for vickery
fwd line goes
h/f martin - elton - lennon
ff/ shankwards - riewoldt - griffiths 2nd ruck.
Word on the street ;) is that Elton is not the sharpest tool in the shed and finds it hard to learn and follow forward structures. Doesn't run to the right spots, lead to the correct areas or apply enough defensive pressure. He needs a great deal of further education before he is given a gig.
McBean needs to beef up but struggles with his diet at the moment. Has plenty of talent and footy smarts but lost a fair amount of confidence after getting toweled up by Frawley preseason.
I'm sure they will bring in Hampson to try and jump over Sandilands. Jackson in for Thomas would be ideal if he is fit but otherwise perhaps arnot would be my choice. :thumbsup
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Roughead is as dumb as a door knob too
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Word on the street ;)
"Word on the street" really ?
:facepalm
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Is Jackson afl standard
last year he was
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Must be the word on Sesame Street because Elton's improved immensely this year, particularly in the last month. Is he ready? Maybe, maybe not, but how well are the incumbents travelling? Is Vickery learning and following forward structures, running to the right spots, leading to the correct areas and applying enough defensive pressure?
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Is Jackson afl standard
last year he was
Yep - one year out of ten so far. A 10% AFL standard career.
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Is Jackson afl standard
last year he was
Yep - one year out of ten so far. A 10% AFL standard career.
we should trade him
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Word on the street ;)
"Word on the street" really ?
:facepalm
I'm not one for making up stories as you know WP
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Would really like to see Arnot in the midfield giving Miles a hand because no one else in there plays the ball. Unfortunately, if he does play, Hardwick will probably put him on the outside or in a pocket. Will find a spot where he can have the least impact.
Time for Griffiths to go. Has never been a big possession getter in his career. Can't see that ever changing. Has butter fingers.
Hampson, Arnot and Elton in. Vickery Thomas Griffiths out. Need a decent ruck rotation so Maric doesn't fall over again.
Stuff Conca and Grigg. Let them come back in the reserves. Maybe they will develop some hunger then.
If we wanted to cut deeper, Helbig for Petterd. Petterd can't kick and we need to see if Helbig has improved. Although I am not overly hopeful.
Just thought I would add. Word on the street: Hardwicks' game plan doesn't work. Maybe Elton's natural instincts don't lend well to leading over the boundary line deep in the forward pocket. :)
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I'm not one for making up stories as you know WP
Never said you were Stripes but "word on the Street" really.... Please!
Nowhere the street I would have thought
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Is Jackson afl standard
last year he was
Yep - one year out of ten so far. A 10% AFL standard career.
In his defence he's looked alright this year barring injuries
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I'm not one for making up stories as you know WP
Never said you were Stripes but "word on the Street" really.... Please!
Nowhere the street I would have thought
What do you mean by this?
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I'm not one for making up stories as you know WP
Never said you were Stripes but "word on the Street" really.... Please!
Nowhere the street I would have thought
What do you mean by this?
Exactly what I typed, even though I made a typo by leaving out a word :wallywink ;D
You said "Word on the street" I'm suggesting there isn't any word on the street... Because I don't think we will find people standing around the corner of Punt Road & Brunton Ave discussing for example the dietary habits of McBean
Hence, why I said "nowhere near the street I would have thought"
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Well Phil and i were doing exactly that last week so you should really think before you press post.
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Well Phil and i were doing exactly that last week so you should really think before you press post.
Well now we know it was at least the word on Chapel Street....
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yeh, well, i heard it through the grapevine, that..........
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Maybe could have played a younger side