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Title: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on July 11, 2014, 09:55:35 PM
Barry Hall says Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs

Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
July 11, 2014 8:34PM

PREMIERSHIP spearhead Barry Hall believes it is time for Jack Riewoldt to move to a rival club to reinvigorate his career.

Riewoldt has kicked 41 goals in 15 games this season and was equal third on the Coleman Medal tally entering this round.

But with Richmond trying to develop new avenues to goal and Riewoldt at times hounded by the media over his antics, Hall wonders if it would be best for him to head elsewhere.

Riewoldt last year signed a three-year contract extension, showing his loyalty by knocking back a huge offer from Fremantle.

Fellow Tigers forward Tyrone Vickery has been thrown up by commentators as trade bait, and triple-club goalkicker Hall says Riewoldt should consider a move.

“I think Jack would be better at another club. I think he needs a fresh start,’’ he said.

“He needs to almost wipe or eradicate some of the things he has had in the past. To go to another club, it has to be the right fit for him, and to go to a club with a really strong culture where it’s all about team, that would be a good place to move for him.”

Asked on Radio Sports National if Fremantle would be a good option, he replied: “Definitely. 100 per cent. They are very strong in culture. It’s not about individuals. I think he would thrive in a place like that. He probably wouldn’t kick as many goals but in terms of the development of Jack Riewoldt and team success, it would be a great move.”

Riewoldt has long professed his love of the club, but has drawn heat for a media ban and his clumsy exit from the club after being censured by coach Damien Hardwick for criticising team tactics.

The Tigers are certain to stick with him but must make hard decisions on a host of middle tier players.

The likes of Matt Arnot, Jake Batchelor, Matt Dea, Brett O’Hanlon, Aaron Edwards, Brad Helbig, Jake King, Orren Stephensen and former captain Chris Newman will all have their futures considered at season’s end.

Captain Trent Cotchin this week signalled his decision to sign another long-term contract with the club when his deal expires at the end of 2015.

Hall believes Riewoldt needs a circuit-breaker for his career, even if he does not realise it.

“We have seen it even from my point of view, I went to Sydney and it was the best thing I have ever done. Sometimes you can get stale without even realising it in a football club.

“You love the place and want to reward the people who gave you the chance, but it can deteriorate. I think Jack is at that stage.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/barry-hall-says-richmonds-jack-riewoldt-can-reinvigorate-his-career-if-he-moves-clubs/story-e6frf3e3-1226986149010/ (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/barry-hall-says-richmonds-jack-riewoldt-can-reinvigorate-his-career-if-he-moves-clubs/story-e6frf3e3-1226986149010/)
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on July 11, 2014, 10:06:23 PM
Riewoldt to Footscray for their first pick.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 11, 2014, 10:07:04 PM
Riewoldt to Footscray for their first pick.

Add Bontimpeli or Jackson McCrae to that.
We are talking about a two time Coleman Medallist.
Pillage and destroy.
All they have is Crameri and a poster of Simon Beasley.


Like that is going to happen anyway.

We'd enquire about Lin Jong, Jason Johanissen and Vickery's footy soul mate in Jarrad Grant. :help
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on July 11, 2014, 10:09:44 PM
Riewoldt to Footscray for their first pick.

Add Bontimpeli or Jackson McCrae.

We might have to chuck in Shankwards to get it over the line.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 11, 2014, 10:16:29 PM
Riewoldt to Footscray for their first pick.

Add Bontimpeli or Jackson McCrae.

We might have to chuck in Shankwards to get it over the line.
Shankwards is a cornerstone to our side. He is going nowhere. Just signed a 2 year deal and doesn't run one way like Martin does. Personally I don't know if Titch runs at all and what direction it is but he is a pillar to our mediocrity and he is locked in long term. :-\
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on July 11, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
ummmm NO Barry ...

Jack needs a better coach ... change the coach ...
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: sugark on July 12, 2014, 12:28:02 AM
If Jack actually made the most of his opportunities and kicked even a little more efficiently then he wouldn't be discussed as being stale, Jack is getting a lot of opportunities but kicking poorly for a key forward this year.

Do your homework Barry
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on July 12, 2014, 12:38:13 AM
Maybe his poor kicking for goal is a result of a lack of concentration because he has gone stale?
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: RollsRoyce on July 12, 2014, 07:51:25 AM
ummmm NO Barry ...

Jack needs a better coach ... change the coach ...

Spot on Torch. Hall references Fremantle as a place with a good team first culture, yet it wasn't that long ago that they were a basket case like us. As much as I despise Lyon's tactics, there's no denying what a change of coach did for them. We would however need a bloody good coach to change the scmidt culture which is set in stone over 32 years.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 12, 2014, 08:24:07 AM
Considering that Jack as a contracted player can't be traded unless he agrees and that he wouldn't agree

Reckon it's fair to say Jack aint going anywhere

A nothing article from a pointless discussion on the wireless
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on July 12, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
Jack would be a bloody success at our club if he was coached properly, played where he is most damaging, had a structure to support him and had players delivering the ball to him better than they do now!!!!!
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on July 12, 2014, 10:01:55 AM
Hall is boof head
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: cub on July 12, 2014, 11:38:59 AM
Players can reinvigorate at their own club if they want to!
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM
Dimma is a moron.
In a side full of kids, Lids and duds left over from previous regimes he kicked 78 goals.
Four seasons on the motus operandi has changed to  lets keep persisting with Vickery and sharing the ball around and try and walk the ball in or when we can't lead into the pockets and try our luck from angles.
 
How effortless did he look at times in 2010 and I'd go this far and say that he started on his Coleman quest that year in the Dreamtime game when he kicked six (although he did kick 4 in the three point loss to Hawthorn the week before). Round 9 it was, so in 14 games I would say he kicked 70 goals and given our inexperience in the first 7 games when we were compared to Fitzroy in their last season, he would have kicked 100 that year or at least got well into the 90's.

In any event this sharing and caring for your teammate has gone too far. When I see Dusty get to 50 and go short when he can kick it 70 on the run because it is team rules, yet other can't hit a target 20 metres away or hit a stationary target that is manned up then you know this coach has no idea and neither do his coaching staff.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on July 12, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
Considering that Jack as a contracted player can't be traded unless he agrees and that he wouldn't agree

Reckon it's fair to say Jack aint going anywhere

A nothing article from a pointless discussion on the wireless

Contracts expire eventually and you said it yourself, a trade could be facilitated if agreed on. Fair discussion
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: froars on July 12, 2014, 01:25:48 PM
Make us an offer, Barry
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: TigerMonk on July 12, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
Get it done, would be the best trade Tigers ever done. sent the twit to the Aints
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on July 12, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
You don't move stars like Jack on. I am hopeful he remains a tiger for life as we will be better for it.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on July 12, 2014, 02:05:18 PM
I wouldn't actively seek it but if it were for a jeff hogg type trade(ie too good to refuse) I'd do it. After all we have Vickery
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: froars on July 12, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
\After all we have Vickery
:rollin
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: froars on July 12, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
The Dogs need two good forwards :-)
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 12, 2014, 02:11:43 PM
I wouldn't actively seek it but if it were for a jeff hogg type trade(ie too good to refuse) I'd do it. After all we have Vickery

Riewoldt to St.Kilda- We can have the Beau Maister, Farren Ray, Adam Scneider deal.

I'm picturing Blair with the napkin round his throat fork and knife in hand and cover on the plate licking his lips in anticipation.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pqOBRLICPOk/S98boEVoPTI/AAAAAAAAFdU/t7sIwCRgNTQ/s400/dog-eating.jpg)


Here's Dimma, Blair, Dan Richardson, FJ and co after the deal went through.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m5Dt3mVMe9o/T5KRf6X5gQI/AAAAAAAAE8o/RMdXeuIdyfc/s1600/pigsispigs2.5.png)
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 12, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
25 duel Coleman winners don't grow on trees

I'd want dogs picks: #1, #2. And McRae

dogs been needing a jack type for 10-20 years he'd be like gold to them
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on July 12, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
I wouldn't actively seek it but if it were for a jeff hogg type trade(ie too good to refuse) I'd do it. After all we have Vickery

Riewoldt to St.Kilda- We can have the Beau Maister, Farren Ray, Adam Scneider deal.

I'm picturing Blair with the napkin round his throat fork and knife in hand and cover on the plate licking his lips in anticipation.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pqOBRLICPOk/S98boEVoPTI/AAAAAAAAFdU/t7sIwCRgNTQ/s400/dog-eating.jpg)


Here's Dimma, Blair, Dan Richardson, FJ and co after the deal went through.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m5Dt3mVMe9o/T5KRf6X5gQI/AAAAAAAAE8o/RMdXeuIdyfc/s1600/pigsispigs2.5.png)


 :lol  ;D
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Rampstar on July 12, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Id like to know if RFCO looks at posts like that and starts laughing? Will he fess up?
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 12, 2014, 03:04:16 PM
They probably contact Asio
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on July 12, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
25 duel Coleman winners don't grow on trees

I'd want dogs picks: #1, #2. And McRae

dogs been needing a jack type for 10-20 years he'd be like gold to them


They would need to do better than Macrae :whistle
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: bojangles17 on July 12, 2014, 04:04:57 PM
Fluff article from a shock jock wannabe journo  ::)
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on July 12, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
don't  you mean shock article from jock fluff wannabee journo?
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 12, 2014, 04:23:55 PM
Considering that Jack as a contracted player can't be traded unless he agrees and that he wouldn't agree

Reckon it's fair to say Jack aint going anywhere

A nothing article from a pointless discussion on the wireless

Contracts expire eventually and you said it yourself, a trade could be facilitated if agreed on. Fair discussion

Yes and his expires in 2016 so as I said he aint going anywhere  ;D

Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on July 12, 2014, 04:40:35 PM
Considering that Jack as a contracted player can't be traded unless he agrees and that he wouldn't agree

Reckon it's fair to say Jack aint going anywhere

A nothing article from a pointless discussion on the wireless

Contracts expire eventually and you said it yourself, a trade could be facilitated if agreed on. Fair discussion

Yes and his expires in 2016 so as I said he aint going anywhere  ;D

He may not and that might (or might not) show that he is right about players not even realising they have gone stale
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 12, 2014, 05:50:03 PM
Surprised Barry can string more than a few words together, the article must have been heavily edited
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 12, 2014, 06:23:03 PM
Players can reinvigorate at their own club if they want to!
Right.

Barry Hall offering a subjective theory...

This from a dog who king hit a
Bloke on the field and then pulled out of what should have been his
First pro fight......against an opponent his size

I just can't take anything this wad says seriously.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on July 12, 2014, 06:24:49 PM
Surprised Barry can string more than a few words together, the article must have been heavily edited

100 monkeys at 100 typewriters sort of stuff?
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 12, 2014, 06:31:10 PM
Surprised Barry can string more than a few words together, the article must have been heavily edited

100 monkeys at 100 typewriters sort of stuff?

Yes I think so
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: TigerMonk on July 12, 2014, 09:02:14 PM
Barry Hall at his age could kick more goals l reckon than Junk Time Jack.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 12, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
Barry Hall at his age could kick more goals l reckon than Junk Time Jack.
Is Jack one of those players you say are undermining the coach and running the club?

C'mon TM, don't be scared, you can tell us who the troublemakers are.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: TigerMonk on July 13, 2014, 11:32:47 AM
Barry Hall at his age could kick more goals l reckon than Junk Time Jack.
Is Jack one of those players you say are undermining the coach and running the club?

C'mon TM, don't be scared, you can tell us who the troublemakers are.

get your info elsewhere  ;D
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 13, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
 look at clubs like melb and saints

That can struggle to score two three goals a game
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on July 13, 2014, 09:06:48 PM
Looks like Barry Hall with his new haircut. Should keep it.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: The Big Richo on July 13, 2014, 09:08:49 PM
Like to see Tyrone head to the same barber.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on July 13, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
Every player should. Can't stand these poo haircuts some of the footy players have.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on July 13, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
What about robbie Grays, could get a gig with the back end boys
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2014, 09:15:32 PM
Looks like Barry Hall with his new haircut. Should keep it.

His haircut was for a reason.  His nephew started his first round of chemotherapy and Jack cut his hair in a show of support.  Don't know if anyone noticed him point to his head after he kicked his first goal but I reckon that's what it was for as well.
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on July 13, 2014, 09:18:13 PM
Looks like Barry Hall with his new haircut. Should keep it.

His haircut was for a reason.  His nephew started his first round of chemotherapy and Jack cut his hair in a show of support.  Don't know if anyone noticed him point to his head after he kicked his first goal but I reckon that's what it was for as well.

I know it was and saw him point to it too. Just pointing out I reckon it suits him  :cheers
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on July 13, 2014, 09:33:34 PM
Yeah, agree, it does suit him.  If he's going to play like that every week then he should keep it!!
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on July 14, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
Cousin, and it was a girl. Not nephew haha :lol. Sentiments all the same and a good bloke for doing it :thumbsup
Title: Re: Barry Hall says Jack Riewoldt can reinvigorate his career if he moves clubs (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on July 15, 2014, 07:31:57 AM
Lol.  I only went by what he said in the post-match interview on the ground - heard him say Maddy (thought it was Matty), and at my age remembering it was a relative was a significant achievement!!   :P