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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: (•))(©™ on August 26, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
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Just checking the numbers....
No
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I would of waited until season end first before making the call, but I dont mind, I thought he has been good in the past few weeks, could go into the forward pocket next year and do some damage.
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
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No. Shouldn't have even been offered.
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I would of waited until season end first before making the call, but I dont mind, I thought he has been good in the past few weeks, could go into the forward pocket next year and do some damage.
takes forever to kick out of defense.
Turnover king.
Momentum killer.
Slow.
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
The last point is probably irrelevant since we could sign him on as a VFL listed player
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
The last point is probably irrelevant since we could sign him on as a VFL listed player
Not quite. If we get a few injuries down back, he wouldn't be able to come up as a VFL listed player....
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Considering our lack of decent depth, I'm happy for him to go around again. As long as like someone else said, he gets games on performance not name.
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Is RFC serious about list management ? Not only is this decision premature it is even more difficuly to justify !
Cooked, best is well & truly behind him.
Has he ever finished top 3 in the b&f over his 12/13 year career ?
Has been a very servicable player to get to 250 games, however the future is now and Newman is yesterday's man.
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Could we not have rookied him?
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
The last point is probably irrelevant since we could sign him on as a VFL listed player
Not quite. If we get a few injuries down back, he wouldn't be able to come up as a VFL listed player....
That has more to do with the gifted seniors point and a point you missed about him providing depth. If teaching our youngsters in the VFL is why we kept him he could of be signed up as VFL listed
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I see the "for" side of the argument but what kills me is this guy can come back after injury at his age, straight back into the ones, he's sooo stuffn slow, he ALWAYS makes costly mistakes in defense, usually kicking short from the square.....man, the list goes on...and this is what the club tells us is Richmond thru and thru.
He's not a good average player, he's an average player but by all accounts an excellent bloke.
Sorry but excellent blokes don't necessarily equate to successful footballers.
It's been quite the charmed existence.
Half his luck.
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I have no idea why he has been given another contract, its like the club and he can't confront his obvious shortcomings.
I don't get it.
Until 2012 I felt his legacy was positive at the club, now I think he is perpetuating the selfish "me man" culture that many of his teammates brought to the club in the last 15 years.
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Absolutely! You need experience on a list, he will be our only player over 30 next year and whilst he is contributing then his experience is invaluable.
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
The last point is probably irrelevant since we could sign him on as a VFL listed player
Not quite. If we get a few injuries down back, he wouldn't be able to come up as a VFL listed player....
hmm houli, morris, mcintosh development, ellis, deledio, vlastuin, batchelor, conca, dea, even helbig petterd and mcdonough, geez thats a lot of injuries and puts paid to the what if we get a few injuries down back theory. the options are limitless.
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Maybe internally they see the need for a good bloke to be around the club with veteran stature and respect. Maybe all our other aged players are not good enough blokes. I dont know but from the outside he seems average and old. You would hope he gets overtaken by a kid for basically the whole year next year. I would rather find a new kid but maybe its personality dynamics that keep him on the list.
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Maybe internally they see the need for a good bloke to be around the club with veteran stature and respect. Maybe all our other aged players are not good enough blokes. I dont know but from the outside he seems average and old. You would hope he gets overtaken by a kid for basically the whole year next year. I would rather find a new kid but maybe its personality dynamics that keep him on the list.
He was average and old about three years ago
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no
hardwick has no idea
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Very surprised. Clearly washed up.
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Absolutely, his influence has been telling in the last 8 weeks with grimesy benefitting big time from his experience :shh
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to be honest I dont really mind chris getting another year.you can never have enough leadership at the club
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Maybe internally they see the need for a good bloke to be around the club with veteran stature and respect. Maybe all our other aged players are not good enough blokes. I dont know but from the outside he seems average and old. You would hope he gets overtaken by a kid for basically the whole year next year. I would rather find a new kid but maybe its personality dynamics that keep him on the list.
Lol. Maybe.
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Newy is revered in football circles, believe you me :shh
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When you look at the older blokes on the list you go down agewise to Maric Chapman Jackson Riewoldt and Lids. Im ignoring a couple who dont make seniors regularly. Maybe they thought they needed the social grease that these guys might not be able to provide. Im just chucking it out there, holding 44 professional footballers egos in check isnt an easy task.
And if he plays 6 games and is cheap because hes on the veterans list then....like I said before I thought he was done as a footballer but maybe more came into the equation than kicking skills.
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But how dies that stack up against the negatives?
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to be honest I dont really mind chris getting another year.you can never have enough leadership at the club
What leadership would that be G? biggest passenger of a senior player going around, never ever stands up when the game is at its hottest.
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I don't mean to disrespect Newman, he is a 4 year captain of the club and should receive his due accolades.
But it has to be said, the game has passed him by. An incorrect decision by both parties. History says he will retire early because:
-Newman will realise it will be very difficult to get himself up mentally and physically for VFL games with 2 men and dog and a coating of icy cold dew
-He will crack it for a game in the seniors the moment the first defender goes down so the club doesn't look silly for re-signing him.
-He will go down with a soft tissue injury himself 2nd or 3rd game back
-Then he will come back through the reserves for 2 games, and will either;
a) go down with another injury in the reserves or
b) play a couple in the reserves and realise he is nowhere near senior selection except for a charity game or
c) realise that none of the kids coming through the reserves listen to cool bands like Pearl Jam or Muse or
d) all of the above
Either way his career will be over by Round 11. It's in the script. I know how it ends. Have seen this movie before.
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I don't mean to disrespect Newman, he is a 4 year captain of the club and should receive his due accolades.
But it has to be said, the game has passed him by. An incorrect decision by both parties. History says he will retire early because:
-Newman will realise it will be very difficult to get himself up mentally and physically for VFL games with 2 men and dog and a coating of icy cold dew
-He will crack it for a game in the seniors the moment the first defender goes down so the club doesn't look silly for re-signing him.
-He will go down with a soft tissue injury himself 2nd or 3rd game back
-Then he will come back through the reserves for 2 games, and will either;
a) go down with another injury in the reserves or
b) play a couple in the reserves and realise he is nowhere near senior selection except for a charity game or
c) realise that none of the kids coming through the reserves listen to cool bands like Pearl Jam or Muse or
d) all of the above
Either way his career will be over by Round 11. It's in the script. I know how it ends. Have seen this movie before.
I don't believe this scenario because he already has come back injured and he went straight into the team, didn't have to play reserves and it didn't take him 2 games to do another injury. If he does another injury I bet the club will let him be a walk up start as soon as he's ready
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Absolutely, his influence has been telling in the last 8 weeks with grimesy benefitting big time from his experience :shh
Plus mcdonuts said he enjoys playing twos and Lennon thinks the sub is quite nice
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This news is harder to take today...
stuffn dud
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Depends on the coin and if he is gifted senior games. Would think he may be valuable in our VFL team teaching the youngsters.
The last point is probably irrelevant since we could sign him on as a VFL listed player
Not quite. If we get a few injuries down back, he wouldn't be able to come up as a VFL listed player....
hmm houli, morris, mcintosh development, ellis, deledio, vlastuin, batchelor, conca, dea, even helbig petterd and mcdonough, geez thats a lot of injuries and puts paid to the what if we get a few injuries down back theory. the options are limitless.
If you haven't noticed most of those you have mentioned are already in the team and are playing a role!
Many of the others won't be there as they will be delisted.
Having an experienced defender come in if we have a few injuries down back is not that bad a thing. It's called depth, something you harp on a lot.
FWIW I would not wrench Deledio from falf forward or Ellis from his on ball role to cover a hole down back.
Now maybe you would destabilise the side by doing that but I wouldn't.
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but he wont be coming in.
He'll be named each week