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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tiga on September 19, 2014, 11:10:18 AM
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Whilst we were winning in the second half of the season, it was all through playing no pressure, nothing to lose football. I kept having this feeling that we were always punching above our weight. This is why I believe that we still have too few stars or influential players and too many in our supporting cast.
Rance, Miles and Ellis are probably the only ones IMO who have genuinely moved from the supporting cast into the star group this season.
Try this little test.....Put yourself in an opposition supporters shoes and go through our entire list and imagine how you would feel if each individual player was listed as injured on the weekend your team was playing the Tigers.
If its a "meh..", then they are a supporting cast player. If its a "You Beauty!" Then they are a star or least a very important player in our team.
The only players who would get a "You Beauty!" from me would be the following..
Cotchin
Riewoldt
Ellis
Maric
Miles
Rance
Martin
Deledio
Until this list extends beyond 12, I cannot see how we will experience sustained finals success.
As a benchmark, I did the same test with the Swans and came up with a total list of 14 players whom I would be really pleased to see out if we played them.
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Nae ellis
Yay Vlastuin
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Whilst we were winning in the second half of the season, it was all through playing no pressure, nothing to lose football. I kept having this feeling that we were always punching above our weight. This is why I believe that we still have too few stars or influential players and too many in our supporting cast.
Rance, Miles and Ellis are probably the only ones IMO who have genuinely moved from the supporting cast into the star group this season.
Try this little test.....Put yourself in an opposition supporters shoes and go through our entire list and imagine how you would feel if each individual player was listed as injured on the weekend your team was playing the Tigers.
If its a "meh..", then they are a supporting cast player. If its a "You Beauty!" Then they are a star or least a very important player in our team.
The only players who would get a "You Beauty!" from me would be the following..
Cotchin
Riewoldt
Ellis
Maric
Miles
Rance
Martin
Deledio
Until this list extends beyond 12, I cannot see how we will experience sustained finals success.
As a benchmark, I did the same test with the Swans and came up with a total list of 14 players whom I would be really pleased to see out if we played them.
good post tiga, do the same for geelong 2007-2010 - get about 16 :o amazing side. Need more young talent to step up into that bracket - say if Astbury, Vickery, Griffiths, Conca, Vlastuin and lennon all stepped into that bracket in the next 20-30 games then we're on our way to sustained finals - if not, not..
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16 Tony?? No wonder they were so damn hard to beat. I'd be happy if we can get to at least 11, so if we pickup at least one decent trade and a couple of our supporting cast lift like Rance and Ellis have done this year then we are on our way.
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Yer good post.
That's why I think it's so important to get FA Chip Frawley He would take the best backman week in week out. Which means one less nae player.
Also we should really think about Tom Mitchell with our first pick IMO.
Trade in Gartlett from Carlton if we can get him cheap. With the right attitude he can get back to some pretty good footy IMO.
I think Vlastuin will be in that group next year with Lennon not far behind.
So that's 5 more "you beauty" players to your list with a bit of luck. Getting up there!!
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Nae ellis
Yay Vlastuin
Don't agree yet Bents. I hope Floss grows into that player but at present I don't reckon he does enough damage to other sides that they would cheer if he was out.
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yeah, floss is still in the potential category.
is not having a great impact on games, yet.
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I reckon floss possessions are worth more than ellis possession s at this stage.
Ellis for his flaws had a good year and has tools
But vlastuin does alot of important things - gas a knack of winning key contests
If I am iincorrect instill would not have Ellis in that category; rance deledio etc
Miles miles ahead imo