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Title: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: one-eyed on September 29, 2014, 11:25:17 PM
Blaisee on BF's main board:

Vickery is exploring his options and there are 6 clubs interested.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-trade-free-agency-rumours-2014.1075505/page-27#post-35344646
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 29, 2014, 11:32:55 PM
Get him to gws for Shiels
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: froars on September 29, 2014, 11:33:20 PM
Awesome  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: dwaino on September 30, 2014, 12:28:33 AM
Hallelujah
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: WA Tiger on September 30, 2014, 08:17:51 AM
Will come back to bite us... :-\
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: cub on September 30, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
stiff
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tony_montana on September 30, 2014, 09:59:40 AM
send him to the dogs for the 1st rounder, they'll be desperate now that Liam Jones is gonski.

Can replace him with Giles or Sinclair from wce who will come cheaper.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 30, 2014, 10:04:25 AM
He was a pick 8...

Top 5 pls 
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: scjhammo on September 30, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
I believe rumours are Port Melbourne are chasing him :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tony_montana on September 30, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
 :lol

trade radio asked Hine if Vickery was plan b for the pies if they miss out on M.Clarke and he laughed at them  :lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 30, 2014, 11:04:04 AM
Should we be deleting the threads on here bagging Vickery?
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tigs2011 on September 30, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
:lol

trade radio asked Hine if Vickery was plan b for the pies if they miss out on M.Clarke and he laughed at them  :lol

Should keep then. Pies track record with identifying talls later has been bang on. Lynch and White.  :lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tony_montana on September 30, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
:lol

trade radio asked Hine if Vickery was plan b for the pies if they miss out on M.Clarke and he laughed at them  :lol

Should keep then. Pies track record with identifying talls later has been bang on. Lynch and White.  :lol

Would be funny except hes been a hell of a lot more successful overrall than our recruiters
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 30, 2014, 11:33:30 AM
If norf were smart they'd target Vickery instead of Waite
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: froars on September 30, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
Should we be deleting the threads on here bagging Vickery?
Absolutely, and create some fictitious superhero ones to replace them
Do you think the opposition clubs will buy it?
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: RedanTiger on September 30, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
I think Tyrone would be handy as a trade BUT where does he want to go. The best options for the club are interstate but would he go.

it would be nice to replace him on the list with another ruckman as posted but it makes no sense to have a straight swap of ruck for ruck.

What could work me is to trade Conca back home to West Coast in exchange for one of their rucks - Lycett or Sinclair.
I understand that FJ was very keen on Lycett at the draft and was stymied.
Probably West Coast would not trade away Scott as they see him as the Dean Cox heir but it's worth asking as an opening bid. He's from Ceduna in SA.
Sinclair went from Melbourne to Subiaco and got drafted in 2013 and is still a rookie.  May be surplus to their requirements.
I was a big fan of Lycett pre-draft and thought Sinclair was too old but checking I see he's only 25.
Obviously Richmond would want a sweetener if the trade was Conca for Sinclair.
Conca    22 yo    185cm  83kg  Midfielder   71 games
Lycett    22yo     203cm  103kg  Ruckman  22 games
Sinclair    25yo    200cm  98kg   Ruckman   9 games    ROOKIE LIST

Then you hope that Vickery could be convinced to go to GWS Giants to get one of their young mids - O'Rourke or Shiel - or even one of the key defenders - Jaksch or Frost.
All of those guys are from Melbourne and most have said publicly they want to come home. The problem is convincing someone to go the other way.
I prefer O'Rourke of them all mainly because he's a midfielder with a bit of size but any of them would fit at Richmond remembering Chaplin is old and Astbury was injured.
Again I think a sweetener for Richmond is in order for any one-on-one trade. Maybe a two player for one and a pick is possible. 
Vickery    24yo    200cm   98kg  Ruckman  87 games
O'Rourke   20yo   188cm   78kg  Midfielder  9 games
Shiel   21yo    181cm   83kg  Midfielder   50 games
Jaksch  20yo   196cm   90kg  Key Defender 7 games
Frost   21yo    194cm   93kg  Key Defender   21 games.

It would be nice for the club to bite the bullet at last and take a risk but we seem unable to be that clinical about our list, particularly with favourites like Conca and Vickery.

Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 30, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
Should we be deleting the threads on here bagging Vickery?
Absolutely, and create some fictitious superhero ones to replace them
Do you think the opposition clubs will buy it?

Dunno but it cant hurt
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: jezza on September 30, 2014, 01:40:57 PM
Why would GWS want Vickery? Got plenty of tall forwards. Got plenty of rucks.

Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tiga on September 30, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
Why would GWS want Vickery? Got plenty of tall forwards. Got plenty of rucks.
They wouldn't. As I have said many times they need experienced backmen which is why Batchelor and if possible Grimes are probably the only two we could offer up.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: The Machine on September 30, 2014, 03:01:11 PM
Sinclair is not AFL standard at all. Handy WAFL or VFL player only.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 30, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
Sinclair is not AFL standard at all. Handy WAFL or VFL player only.

So, worth a second rounder then
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: dwaino on September 30, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
Sinclair is not AFL standard at all. Handy WAFL or VFL player only.

So, worth a second rounder then

Get it done, Blair  :clapping
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 30, 2014, 05:14:09 PM
He's signed.

What else u got.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: yandb on September 30, 2014, 05:34:02 PM
So we are suggesting that we trade Vickery struggles to get the ball but who can kick goals and hit targets for Shiel who can find his own ball but butchers it when he kicks. :huh :huh
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: bojangles17 on September 30, 2014, 07:20:13 PM
How could he be exploring options when he s contracted, if this was true it would be RFC exploring,options regarding a trade , it doesn't surprise me in the least clubs would be interested, see him as a very good follower
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: big tone on September 30, 2014, 07:43:21 PM
How could he be exploring options when he s contracted, if this was true it would be RFC exploring,options regarding a trade , it doesn't surprise me in the least clubs would be interested, see him as a very good follower
If both parties agree it doesn't matter there is a contract. How hard is that to work out??
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 30, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
very hard
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: big tone on September 30, 2014, 08:02:05 PM
 
very hard
:lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 30, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
Dimmers love child.

Forget it.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: rogerd3 on September 30, 2014, 09:04:31 PM
There's about 3 clubs that have enquired about Ty's availability.

Depends what these clubs are offering.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 30, 2014, 09:56:19 PM
Best jumper puncher going around, that alone should ensure we get a premium in a trade
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: TigerMonk on October 05, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
Won't be going anywhere.  :rollin
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Andyy on October 05, 2014, 10:20:55 PM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Dice on October 06, 2014, 09:52:17 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: tony_montana on October 06, 2014, 10:08:32 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Lids  :lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Andyy on October 06, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 06, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
 :facepalm
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on October 06, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
Let's trust bigfooty lol
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Chuck17 on October 06, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Let's trust bigfooty lol

Isn't it gospel?
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: the claw on October 07, 2014, 12:05:29 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Diocletian on October 07, 2014, 12:20:45 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.

Turn it up santa - Petterd fair enough but even Vickery's an also ran in the peaheart stakes compared to Grigg.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: the claw on October 07, 2014, 12:29:45 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.

Turn it up santa - Petterd fair enough but even Vickery's an also ran in the peaheart stakes compared to Grigg.
soft as butter is soft as butter no matter how you spin it.  ffs we resigned all of these hacks when we should be going hard at replacements.

the real trouble is they cant see the need to take a step backwards to take two or three fwds.we have been here before and failed and the way we are going we will fail again.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: big tone on October 07, 2014, 09:10:45 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.

Turn it up santa - Petterd fair enough but even Vickery's an also ran in the peaheart stakes compared to Grigg.
soft as butter is soft as butter no matter how you spin it.  ffs we resigned all of these hacks when we should be going hard at replacements.

the real trouble is they cant see the need to take a step backwards to take two or three fwds.we have been here before and failed and the way we are going we will fail again.
If you had to choose Vickery or Biff to stay and trade out the other one, who would it be?
I'd keep Vichery everyday of the week. (No offense YBB  :whistle)
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Andyy on October 07, 2014, 10:07:40 AM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.

I think Vickery is structurally more important but would trade him if there was a good offer in return.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: the claw on October 07, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.

Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.

Turn it up santa - Petterd fair enough but even Vickery's an also ran in the peaheart stakes compared to Grigg.
soft as butter is soft as butter no matter how you spin it.  ffs we resigned all of these hacks when we should be going hard at replacements.

the real trouble is they cant see the need to take a step backwards to take two or three fwds.we have been here before and failed and the way we are going we will fail again.
If you had to choose Vickery or Biff to stay and trade out the other one, who would it be?
I'd keep Vichery everyday of the week. (No offense YBB  :whistle)
despite the current griffiths debate which for me is more about where hes got too and his overall performances to date which lets be honest are not much to shout about  id prefer griffiths. they are both pretty poor in key areas.

as i have said before they were resigned   trade one out,  early in the yr it was vickery then he got resigned so it left griffiths uncontracted,  now hes resigned theres no one to trade. to me we dont need the three of vickery, griffiths and mcbean, none to me are key fwds of high quaity and none are high quality ruckmen.
for me even in keeping all three we must get a a quality kpf i like mccartin he wont get to us, i firmly believewe are screaming out for a tom lamb type and id definately take a player like kietel for depth and development.the ideal would be all three,  but we know that wont happen  we wont even look at a tall fwd yet its imo our greatest need.

i keep on asking what is the better list management and better set up.  a set up along the lines of
riewoldt, elton, mccartin as kpfs, lamb and kietel as agile tall fwds with kietel in time perhaps becoming kp. with griffiths and mcbean as ruck/fwds. its this sort of set up we need to be aiming at over the next few yrs
or the current set up of
riewoldt, elton as kpfs yet elton looks like he will fail, no quick tall agile types and three ruck fwds in vickery, griffiths, and mcbean.
list is screaming out for real kpfs and  tall fwds  at least 3 regardless of weather we cut players or not.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on October 07, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
Gee thanks for the prompt insight.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay

Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.

I would sacrifice ramps to get greenwood. Literally.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 07, 2014, 10:21:46 PM
I would sacrifice Vickery for a chicken dinner. Or a drummette. Maybe even a single wing if they threw in some stuffing
 
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: yellowandback on October 08, 2014, 07:22:13 AM
I would sacrifice Vickery for a chicken dinner. Or a drummette. Maybe even a single wing if they threw in some stuffing

You'd need to go a long way to get good chicken stuffing.
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 08, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
I would sacrifice Vickery for a chicken dinner. Or a drummette. Maybe even a single wing if they threw in some stuffing

You'd need to go a long way to get good chicken stuffing.
It wouldn't need to be good to do the trade.... :whistle
Title: Re: Vickery exploring his options?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 09, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Pulped feathers and abattoir sweepings and it's a win - win for everyone