Gee thanks for the prompt insight.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/richmond-eyes-greenwood-but-vickery-to-stay
Says in that article that we won't be sacrificing Grigg to get Greenwood. Whoever is making that call needs to be removed from the footy club immediately.
Dunno wtf it is with these pets like Grigg and Petterd etc.
Honestly I'd trade them for almost anything...
but would you keep vickery are you prepared to make a call on him. petts and grigg give mor than the pea heart to date.
Turn it up santa - Petterd fair enough but even Vickery's an also ran in the peaheart stakes compared to Grigg.
soft as butter is soft as butter no matter how you spin it. ffs we resigned all of these hacks when we should be going hard at replacements.
the real trouble is they cant see the need to take a step backwards to take two or three fwds.we have been here before and failed and the way we are going we will fail again.
If you had to choose Vickery or Biff to stay and trade out the other one, who would it be?
I'd keep Vichery everyday of the week. (No offense YBB 
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despite the current griffiths debate which for me is more about where hes got too and his overall performances to date which lets be honest are not much to shout about id prefer griffiths. they are both pretty poor in key areas.
as i have said before they were resigned trade one out, early in the yr it was vickery then he got resigned so it left griffiths uncontracted, now hes resigned theres no one to trade. to me we dont need the three of vickery, griffiths and mcbean, none to me are key fwds of high quaity and none are high quality ruckmen.
for me even in keeping all three we must get a a quality kpf i like mccartin he wont get to us, i firmly believewe are screaming out for a tom lamb type and id definately take a player like kietel for depth and development.the ideal would be all three, but we know that wont happen we wont even look at a tall fwd yet its imo our greatest need.
i keep on asking what is the better list management and better set up. a set up along the lines of
riewoldt, elton, mccartin as kpfs, lamb and kietel as agile tall fwds with kietel in time perhaps becoming kp. with griffiths and mcbean as ruck/fwds. its this sort of set up we need to be aiming at over the next few yrs
or the current set up of
riewoldt, elton as kpfs yet elton looks like he will fail, no quick tall agile types and three ruck fwds in vickery, griffiths, and mcbean.
list is screaming out for real kpfs and tall fwds at least 3 regardless of weather we cut players or not.
