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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2014, 10:36:34 PM
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Trent Cotchin could be in line for a massive contract extension with Richmond
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
November 18, 2014 8:00PM
RICHMOND has signalled plans to lock captain and free agent Trent Cotchin away on a monster long-term deal.
And Dustin Martin is also ready to sign an extension having come back to the club in quality shape after his Las Vegas holiday with Dane Swan.
The Tigers yesterday announced their 10th consecutive profit — $1,329,530 — while also pouring an extra $1.9 million into the footy department for the 2014 season.
Cotchin and Alex Rance are the club’s high-profile free agents and Cotchin would fetch as much as $1 million a year to remain at Richmond.
He signed only a two-year deal in 2013 that saw him come out of contract in the first year he became a free agent but CEO Brendon Gale said talks were about to start.
“With Trent he is out of contract next year, he’s the captain of our club and best-and-fairest winner and we rate him very highly,’’ he said.
“We will sit down with Trent sooner rather than later to look at securing him for a long time, I would have thought.”
All-Australian Alex Rance is also a free agent at the end of next year and while Richmond is keen to start talks it is understood that won’t happen until post-Christmas.
Alex Rance playing touch rugby with teammates at pre-season training. Picture: Wayne Ludb
Alex Rance playing touch rugby with teammates at pre-season training. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Source: News Corp Australia
But he is an extremely loyal player whose parents have moved over from Perth, so seems little chance to leave the club if given the contract he deserves.
Martin was involved in a contact impasse last year but after a career-best season is happy to begin talks in the off-season on his deal.
He drew attention after posting a series of social media shots partying with Pies controversy magnet Swan in the off-season.
But his manager Ralph Carr said the pair actually trained together while away, with Martin coming back in excellent shape.
Martin finished third in the Jack Dyer Medal behind Cotchin this year, who became the youngest triple-winner in Richmond history.
Gale told SEN Radio yesterday the club still had a war-chest for a free agent next year but only on a targeted acquisition, not just to bring in a player for the sake of it.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/trent-cotchin-could-be-in-line-for-a-massive-contract-extension-with-richmond/story-e6frf3e3-1227127464782
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5+ yrs or GTFO
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lol the club is hopeful but will he sign on the line.
me i reckon his manager and cotch will make us wait until they see how the yr pans out.good players will chase success. hate to think it but those hawthorn rumors scare the pants of me.
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Cotchin and Alex Rance are the club’s high-profile free agents and Cotchin would fetch as much as $1 million a year to remain at Richmond.
Hmmm.. would hope he takes "unders" to lead the way of keeping the group together. Others have over the last couple of years.
Can understand other clubs offering those sort of numbers but not convinced we should be off the bat
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lol the club is hopeful but will he sign on the line.
me i reckon his manager and cotch will make us wait until they see how the yr pans out.good players will chase success. hate to think it but those hawthorn rumors scare the pants of me.
Hawthorn window is just about closed and bricked off
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Cotchin and Alex Rance are the club’s high-profile free agents and Cotchin would fetch as much as $1 million a year to remain at Richmond.
Hmmm.. would hope he takes "unders" to lead the way of keeping the group together. Others have over the last couple of years.
Can understand other clubs offering those sort of numbers but not convinced we should be off the bat
Are hodge and Mitchell not on 400, for the good of the club?
To keep list together
Dirty socialists
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lol the club is hopeful but will he sign on the line.
me i reckon his manager and cotch will make us wait until they see how the yr pans out.good players will chase success. hate to think it but those hawthorn rumors scare the pants of me.
Anything to scare your pants off Craw
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Cotchin and Alex Rance are the club’s high-profile free agents and Cotchin would fetch as much as $1 million a year to remain at Richmond.
Hmmm.. would hope he takes "unders" to lead the way of keeping the group together. Others have over the last couple of years.
Can understand other clubs offering those sort of numbers but not convinced we should be off the bat
agree 100%
the $700k+ pa that he's already on is sufficient imo, we shouldn't be forking out 1mill for him
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He's on 700k ? He's not worth that surely. 500k at best, 2012 was a standout year for him the others have been quite poor. I feel he's overrated
He should be taking a paycut if he's on 700
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That's awesome. Take a two year contract to keep you on your toes, but just happens to conveniently lead into FA status to drive your price up. Give this guy 1million and then may as well just give up, that's another 200k gone that we could have used as a sweetener for a gun FA.
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Honestly if he wants $1million/year I'd think about not paying him that.
Captain should take one for the team. $3million for 5 years IMO.
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Captain should take one for the team.
Yep and set the example
Like Selwood did at Geelong, Hodge has done at Hawthorn, McVeigh has done at the Swans
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Difference with all those blokes and Cotchin is they are not the best players in their teams.
Well Selwood probably is now but wasn't when he signed.
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Captain should take one for the team.
Yep and set the example
Like Selwood did at Geelong, Hodge has done at Hawthorn, McVeigh has done at the Swans
Yep all champions and 3, 3 and 2x times prremiership players.
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
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Difference with all those blokes and Cotchin is they are not the best players in their teams.
Well Selwood probably is now but wasn't when he signed.
Don't think cotchin is light years ahead of lids/rance IMO
Don't think hodge, selwood were far off the best players at repsectivr clubs
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
Not sure how Boyd came into the conversation but again the media wouldn't have any idea on how his contract is set up.. And more importantly neither do nuffy supporters.
You talk about contracts of players like you know what you are talking about but like most you have NFI.
Cotch is a Tiger through and through and deserves everything he gets from this club. He could choose any club and go there but I bet you he stays put.
But I'm sure you know better. :lol
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
Not sure how Boyd came into the conversation but again the media wouldn't have any idea on how his contract is set up.. And more importantly neither do nuffy supporters.
You talk about contracts of players like you know what you are talking about but like most you have NFI.
Cotch is a Tiger through and through and deserves everything he gets from this club. He could choose any club and go there but I bet you he stays put.
But I'm sure you know better. :lol
so what's a fair price BT? You sit there slagging off nuffy supporters but the reason it is discussed is bc there is a salary cap and if too much gets blown on a few players then our chances of landing a free agency gem go out the window - interestingly you were one of the most outspoken about our inability to land a big fish at seasons end. You talk as if we should sign him for whatever price he names bc he deserves it - if that affects our ability to land a big name at the end of 2015 im sure you'll be the first to lay the boots in - cant have your cake and eat it mate.
and FWIW the industry has a fair idea on what players are on, agents speak to clubs and both agents and clubs speak to journos about other players - not hard to get a fair idea
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You miss the point. Bt
Yes hes a gun
Yes is market value is a lot
But he should accept 50% so list can be retained and improve as hodge and Mitchell did
It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
Not sure how Boyd came into the conversation but again the media wouldn't have any idea on how his contract is set up.. And more importantly neither do nuffy supporters.
You talk about contracts of players like you know what you are talking about but like most you have NFI.
Cotch is a Tiger through and through and deserves everything he gets from this club. He could choose any club and go there but I bet you he stays put.
But I'm sure you know better. :lol
The media are claiming the highest paided player the dogs are paying next season is... Ryan griffin
Boyd was raised cause his contract has very discussed a lot recently.
Both this claims contradict your claim. "No one would have any idea what anyone is on.". It seems that indeed someone does know what some are on. And if it is indeed correct, logic would lead us to the conclusion that if people have idea what Griff and Boyd are on. They might have some idea about Richmond, too
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
Not sure how Boyd came into the conversation but again the media wouldn't have any idea on how his contract is set up.. And more importantly neither do nuffy supporters.
You talk about contracts of players like you know what you are talking about but like most you have NFI.
Cotch is a Tiger through and through and deserves everything he gets from this club. He could choose any club and go there but I bet you he stays put.
But I'm sure you know better. :lol
so what's a fair price BT? You sit there slagging off nuffy supporters but the reason it is discussed is bc there is a salary cap and if too much gets blown on a few players then our chances of landing a free agency gem go out the window - interestingly you were one of the most outspoken about our inability to land a big fish at seasons end. You talk as if we should sign him for whatever price he names bc he deserves it - if that affects our ability to land a big name at the end of 2015 im sure you'll be the first to lay the boots in - cant have your cake and eat it mate.
A contract can be set up in so many different ways. To pluck a figure for one season is just to simplistic. But if I had to I'd say 2mil over 3 years. IMO he is our best player and the player we can least afford to loose. He would get offered more than that at other clubs but I think that would be fair. It's one thing for supporters to say he should take only 50% of what he is worth but would you? He is a very gifted player and probably has 10 good years of footy in him, why should he take that big a pay cut?
And what if he does and doesn't win a flag?
Let's be honest, all clubs just use you until they don't need you anymore. Geelong is often brought up saying clubs should do what there players have done, but in reality they get what they can out of their players then move them on when they want to. Chapman and Hunt are two examples of the last couple of years. Both would have been paid less than what they were worth but when it suited Geelong they were out the door. At least they got a flag or three.
But what if you were one of the Saints boys and you have forfeited big sums of money for the lure of a flag that never came. How do you think some of their boys would be thinking now?
Clubs want the players to have all the loyalty but when the club wants to go another way they have none themselves.
I don't rate free agency the way it is at the moment but I'm glad it favors the players a bit more now. It should be free for the players to be able to move after so many years of service, not free for the club he chooses. Hawthorn should have to give up something if they want Frawley at their club. And other clubs shouldn't be pushed down the draft order for it to happen.
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You miss the point. Bt
Yes hes a gun
Yes is market value is a lot
But he should accept 50% so list can be retained and improve as hodge and Mitchell did
It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
The media lying about Boyds contract then is it ?
No one appears to be saying he isn't a star.
Just that other stays take50% of market value, so ythe club can win the flag rather than them buying a third home.
If we pay everyone what they are worth- we wont win a flag due to players getting squeezed out / no money for free agent. Ala the selwood and hodge examples
Not sure how Boyd came into the conversation but again the media wouldn't have any idea on how his contract is set up.. And more importantly neither do nuffy supporters.
You talk about contracts of players like you know what you are talking about but like most you have NFI.
Cotch is a Tiger through and through and deserves everything he gets from this club. He could choose any club and go there but I bet you he stays put.
But I'm sure you know better. :lol
The media are claiming the highest paided player the dogs are paying next season is... Ryan griffin
Boyd was raised cause his contract has very discussed a lot recently.
Both this claims contradict your claim. "No one would have any idea what anyone is on.". It seems that indeed someone does know what some are on. And if it is indeed correct, logic would lead us to the conclusion that if people have idea what Griff and Boyd are on. They might have some idea about Richmond, too
Again it's the media claiming what you have mentioned?? Are you that thick?
Your post is ridiculous..
I just stated the media would have no idea what anyone is on, and you come back with what the media thinks two players are on.
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That's a preposterous position to take.
Not based on reality
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BT, I'd be very happy with $2m over 3 years :thumbsup
if I was a Saints player - I'd be disappointed in the outcome but would've thought it worth the risk. 3 grand finals and and unlucky bounce/tentative move by Milne cost them a flag.
You need an ounce of luck to win a flag and they missed out at a crucial moment.
Similarly a so called genius toe poke cost them another.
Two ounces of luck and they may have had 2 flags.
And but for that, they might still have had their coach and their stars.
Who knows, the toe poke doesn't happen, Cats lose and Goddard stays and Stevie J goes
The point is, players stay because they believe and the value of playing for a flag is what keeps clubs together.
I agree with you - Cotchin and most probably Rance and Dusty will resign.
I'm just hoping we can get a finals win this year and land a big catch in the off season :pray
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
Amen.
Nothing to see here. Trent will show the way.
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5 years. Even better than expected. Brilliant stuff Trent!
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Contracts List:
2015: Dea, Elton, Foley, Gordon, Grigg, Grimes, Hunt, Knights, Lennon, Lloyd, Martin, McDonough, McIntosh, Newman, Petterd, Rance.
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
Amen.
Nothing to see here. Trent will show the way.
Well said Magic.
Well done Cotch.
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It makes me laugh when people talk about what a player is getting paid. No one would have any idea what anyone is on. The media just makes this poo up.
Cotch is a star and a quality person and will do the best for the club.
Amen.
Nothing to see here. Trent will show the way.
Well said Magic.
Well done Cotch.
:clapping
X2 Magic
We have no idea what these guys go through day to day to play this game.....
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Million bucks a year to cash a pig skin 20 times pls