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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: tony_montana on January 08, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
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Lone wolf again no doubt..
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-attack-multiple-fatalities-in-french-newspaper-shooting/story-fnh81p7g-1227177729494 (http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-attack-multiple-fatalities-in-french-newspaper-shooting/story-fnh81p7g-1227177729494)
Story summary: •Police say 12 dead, 11 injured in attack at Paris newspaper office
•Reports one gunman killed, two arrested after search corners suspects
•French President Hollande labels act terrorist attack
•Charlie Hebdo was firebombed in 2011 over cartoon of Prophet Mohammed
THE youngest of three terrorists believed to be responsible for killing at least 12 people in the attack on a French satirical magazine has handed himself in, French police sources have said.
France’s elite anti-terrorism unit is believed to have cornered the terrorists at a property in the north-eastern city of Reims.
Earlier, a member of the unit hinted at a possible bloody outcome saying: “There will be a showdown”, as heavily armed officers surrounded the property following a massive manhunt after the offenders fled Charlie Hebdo newspaper’s Paris headquarters after gunning down 12 people.
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go kill people bc they drew cartoons :clapping stuffing dogs
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Cartoonists around the world - the pen(cil) is mightier than the sword.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6ypqVtCUAAEyLf.jpg)
#banksy
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cartoonists-unite-against-charlie-hebdo-attack-and-terrorism-20150107-12jxdi.html
Place de la République in Paris
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(http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/wp-content/blogs.dir/459/files/2012/04/i-6c36be560f39de56ab1a6ad61aa37154-danish005.jpg)
and this sums it up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk
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This is horrible. "we avenged mohammed". You avenged no one, only killed decent people you bastards :(
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and this sums it up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk
:bow that entire movie share my thoughts too. Love it.
First there is the tragedy of this situation, then there is the absurdity of why it even happened.
"Blasphemy: A law to protect an all-powerful, supernatural deity from getting its feelings hurt." - Ricky Gervais.
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like that.
its why Christian bibles now refer to Yahweh as lord. not sure exactly how they got Jehovah from Yahweh but the change was to do with the risk of saying his name in vain, as was the subsequent change to Lord.
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(http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/wp-content/blogs.dir/459/files/2012/04/i-6c36be560f39de56ab1a6ad61aa37154-danish005.jpg)
and this sums it up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk
Lol. Can't beat Monty Python!!
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(http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/wp-content/blogs.dir/459/files/2012/04/i-6c36be560f39de56ab1a6ad61aa37154-danish005.jpg)
and this sums it up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk
Ironic too
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like that.
its why Christian bibles now refer to Yahweh as lord. not sure exactly how they got Jehovah from Yahweh but the change was to do with the risk of saying his name in vain, as was the subsequent change to Lord.
Had a mate who was a mason and I think it's the pronunciation. Ya-h-veh was/is the the Hebrew pronunciation, and Jehovah is the phonetic spelling. Geez also turns into your everyday Joshua (Ye-shu-a).
Absolutely agree with how ridiculous it all is. It's in a name. Same with Abraham's religions. They're the same, and numerous crusades on both sides waged over semantics.
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(http://www.scifiideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/neville-chamberlain.jpg)
(http://www.idyllopuspress.com/meanwhile/images2/tm_morlocksphinx.jpg)
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Typical coward play. They will cop what they deserve very soon when they are all caught
His another stuffwit who lives in our streets, most likely living off our taxes. Dirty scum of the highest order and he has plenty of mates too around the world
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/paris-terror-at-charlie-hebdo-newspaper-aussies-justify-attack/story-fni0fiyv-1227178200371
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1500 heavily armed French cops have the two terrorists surrounded in a factory building north-east of Paris. They have a female hostage.
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-attack-police-close-in-on-two-armed-massacre-suspects-as-manhunt-continues-across-france/story-fnh81p7g-1227178925700
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/01/09/19/32/shots-reportedly-fired-as-french-police-hunt-paris-shooting-suspects
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The French media is reporting that the two terrorist brothers have been killed when the industrial building was raided by French police. Initial reports say the female hostage is okay.
In another separate seige, a linked islamist terrorist has also been killed in a police shootout after he took hostages in a kosher supermarket demanding the two brothers be freed. Sadly, the media is now reporting some of the hostages have also been killed.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/09/charlie-hebdo-manhunt-kouachi-terrorist-links-live-updates
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That's a shame they were killed
Cowards get off lightly again all in the name of Islam
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yeah much better for them to get a chance to revel in the 'glory' of their actions like amrozi.
how is this being let off lightly due to islam?
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Wake up pal
In their mind they were let off as to be killed is exactly what they wanted. They win each time they get shot. Media reports, lives lost and to their other coward mates they are seen as martyrs and more will follow the same dirty path.
Hopefully one doesn't get killed and gets to spend the rest of his living days in a dirty cell.
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but they were not let off lightly in the name of islam. its not like the coppers decided to shot them as some mercy because they were muslim.
and if you want to see more of this
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/116386-3x2-940x627.jpg)
then your brain is more dysfunctional than I thought, pal.
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Death is what they deserved and death is what they got. Time to move on.
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Once again resorting to insults like you seem to do a lot on here when you have been owned.
the dude from bali got off after a few years is what i said. lol yeah set them free after a few years yep thats what i said
Jail is what i said and i never said anything about the cops, again thats you pushing your own words to suit yourself as you have done so elsewhere on many occasions i see.
Yes dwaino all im saying is i would like to see them suffer for their actions. Most cases that's by death but if the girl survives we can only hope she lives in a dirty jail hole like the people families will now live in for the rest of their lives.
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I agree that it's tragic and unfair that innocent people have to suffer, but the best thing about them being killed now is they will shortly be forgotten about. There will be no trial, no prison, no where for anyone to pay homage for them and no platform for them or their mates back home to incite any more crap. They won't even get a Muslim burial which is a strong message to the rest of them. Hopefully they aren't even named.
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That is also very true Dwaino well articulated, without the use of insults :thumbsup
These guys have no disregard for their life whatsoever so not sure a muslim burial is high on their agenda.
Can you see this continuing for years to come Dwaino?
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Once again resorting to insults like you seem to do a lot on here when you have been owned.
the dude from bali got off after a few years is what i said. lol yeah set them free after a few years yep thats what i said
Jail is what i said and i never said anything about the cops, again thats you pushing your own words to suit yourself as you have done so elsewhere on many occasions i see.
Yes dwaino all im saying is i would like to see them suffer for their actions. Most cases that's by death but if the girl survives we can only hope she lives in a dirty jail hole like the people families will now live in for the rest of their lives.
lmao, if you dont like dung hitting you, dont throw it too start with.
have you even considered the possibility that alive these mentals can provide ongoing encouragement and inspiration to other mentals.
Dead, they are soon forgotten, just more names in the endless list of those that are now wondering just where the stuff all the virgins are?
and if you actually did consider it, why have you discounted it?
the supposed insult was conditional too..... ;)
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like that.
its why Christian bibles now refer to Yahweh as lord. not sure exactly how they got Jehovah from Yahweh but the change was to do with the risk of saying his name in vain, as was the subsequent change to Lord.
I thought it was to avoid any copyright issues with one of the emerging tech players
(http://www.entreanuncio.com/productos/anuncios/1337/galerias/huawei-logo.jpg)
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Lmao tiga :lol
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A similarly attempted shooting in Copenhagen overnight. One dead and 3 cops wounded.
One civilian has been shot dead and three police officers wounded after gunmen opened fire on a cafe at a debate on free speech, blasphemy and Islam in Copenhagen.
Danish police said that up to 40 shots were fired outside the venue in the Danish capital.
Two gunmen escaped by car.
Controversial Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks was at the debate and is reported to have hidden inside the venue when the shots rang out.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-15/shooting-in-copenhagen/6104072?section=world
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-blasphemy-lars-vilks-prophet-muhammad-krudttonden-cafe
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lone wolf no doubt
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Bump.
Sadly many dead. 2 terrorist killed, 1 arrested so let's hope they give him a slow death after he tells them what they need to know
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
What's the other option?
Ugly, bogan, half wits bashing old ladies on Melbourne trains cause they wear a headscarf?
Stay classy
#TeamAustralia
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
so true.
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
so true.
"The main concern right now" , is very often not what the Zionist media tells u it is
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
What's the other option?
Ugly, bogan, half wits bashing old ladies on Melbourne trains cause they wear a headscarf?
Stay classy
#TeamAustralia
Agree.... terrible crimes against against humanity that happen every day according to twitter and Hizb ut-Tahrir....
Stay righteous
#Teamcuckhold #usefulidiots
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Bent Judge if he was alive in 1939 and they had the internet
"What about the way the we destroyed the poor German nation with our cruel sanctions and all the money Rothchilds made out of their suffering"
Stay Classy
#Team Allies
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Bent Judge if he was alive in 1941and they had the internet
"What about the way the we destroyed the poor German people with our cruel sanctions and all the money Rothchild's made out of their suffering"
Stay Classy
#Team Allies
Dresden bombing = war crime
treaty of Versailles = asking for ww2, greedy surrender monkies
the previous war, they were cousins :snidegrin ...
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/05/article-2552270-1B35BF8400000578-288_634x458.jpg)
#ILLRIDEWIDTHCHOO
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"Not all Germans are bad only 7% are members of the Nazi party...."
Bent Judge's Grandfather , letter to the Age, 1943
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
What's the other option?
Ugly, bogan, half wits bashing old ladies on Melbourne trains cause they wear a headscarf?
Stay classy
#TeamAustralia
Agree.... terrible crimes against against humanity that happen every day according to twitter and Hizb ut-Tahrir....
Stay righteous
#Teamcuckhold #usefulidiots
according to...
oxfam
doctors without boarder
save the children
just left wing fruit loops like that
brown people dont matter much but
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"Not all Germans are bad only 7% are members of the Nazi party...."
Ben Judge's Grandfather , letter to the Age, 1943
just following orders brah'
(http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/11/Nurember-Trial-Hero-AB.jpeg)
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Oh no....someone on a train was assaulted!
#allourfault #wedeservetobekilled
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Oh no....someone on a train was assaulted!
#allourfault #wedeservetobekilled
#TeamAustralia
don't worry, it was justified
she had the audacity to wear a headscarf :o
in the presence of one of tonies tradies
(https://independentaustralia.net/_lib/slir/w900-h600/https://independentaustralia.net/i/article/img/article-6960-hero.jpg)
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anyone feeling rather islamaphobic today can head down to the next reclaim australia meeting
we provide biscuits and cups of tea
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So in the wake of the attacks in Paris which are still happening, you're still more outraged over some peeweak failed demo by a few dumb bogans a couple of weeks ago?
Thanks for proving my original point.
#enoughrope
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Islam is like the weather. Some days it is Sunni, other days it is Shi'ite.
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Islam is like the weather. Some days it is Sunni, other days it is Shi'ite.
;D
:clapping
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So in the wake of the attacks in Paris which are still happening, you're still more outraged over some peeweak failed demo by a few dumb bogans a couple of weeks ago?
Thanks for proving my original point.
#enoughrope
very little gets me outraged - Responding to these events with anger, fear or hate is exactly what the pathocracy is aiming for.
with respect to all - i merely fail to understand (i assume cause im not very smart) why terrorism is big news
and millions of kids starving to death every year is not
conditioning i presume
white people are extra important i spose
Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
so true.
"The main concern right now" , is very often not what the Zionist media tells u it is
isnt the far right very worried about overpopulation? they put that to the side on days like this eh
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Typical half-arsed moral equivalence I'd expect from you.
BTW - you do realise that over population is also a concern of many on the left too? Which is ironic given their general support for mass immigation.
... though the main people who support and drive increased population are capitalists & their neo-cons puppets ...another irony of the left's support of immigration is they're actually being unwitting shills for capitalism...despite what the neo-cons might say with their public dog-whistling - they love immigration. Stop the boats - but increase the planes. :shh
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Typical half-arsed moral equivalence I'd expect from you.
BTW - you do realise that over population is also a concern of many on the left too? Which is ironic given their general support for mass immigation.
... though the main people who support and drive increased population are capitalists & their neo-cons puppets ...another irony of the left's support of immigration is they're actually being unwitting shills for capitalism...despite what the neo-cons might say with their public dog-whistling - they love immigration. Stop the boats - but increase the planes. :shh
i do realize (and somewhat agree) :shh
so why the outrage over a few dead surrender monkies?
cause they are well off frog eaters
no poor brown sand diggers
aye ?
:gotigers
i can assure you its not "Typical half-arsed" - i have grappled with such questions for some time
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grenades being thrown at fans at France v Germany match (twitter.com)
https://vine.co/v/iBb2x00UVlv
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Well surely you must be concerned now Judge.....it's interrupting the soccer...
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
Yesssss :clapping
We're all definetly 'racist' :shh
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Hoprfully the good people of France will be mounting a hashtag campaign as we speak to ensure no Muslims get sworn at by nasty white racists on public transport as a result of this....because that has to be the main concern right now...
Yesssss :clapping
We're all definetly 'racist' :shh
well work it out your self
a few white people die you all lose your poo
every day ten thousands brown people die, due to no water or whatever, it doesnt make a blip on the radar
(note, i too am white ;) )
Well surely you must be concerned now Judge.....it's interrupting the soccer...
still not too fussed
instead of bagging me why not respond to my points and help me learn? 8)
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
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Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
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I'm starving so I just made a toasted sandwich. Pls think of me.
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Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
This guy gets it ...
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
Allow me to try and change te wording somewhat and try agin. Put it this way.
Would you rather die, painfully over three weeks cause Stalin took away your food? Or die faster in one of Adofs gas chambers ?
Would u rather starve to death now in Africa? Or die pretty fast in Paris at a football match?
I understand the timing is not perfect given the situation. Not hard feelings to anyone I offend eh. I'm just tryin to 'get it'
Peace :gotigers
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
Are them 10000 kids that die of no food every day, not also innocent mate?
#justsayin
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Bents, why are making the generalisation that only "white" people were murdered today? Because that would simply not be the case. not that a persons skin colour or religion should make one iota of difference. The mongrels who carry out these attacks don't pick their victims based on their skin colour and it's foolish to suggest otherwise.
YR nailed it in their explanation. What has happened today is at least 160 people have lost their lives because of hate. Innocent people going about their lives, enjoying a soccer game, a concert, a meal etc have been murdered. It jolts us because it is not the way the world should be. There shouldn't be this level of hatred that leads to this carnage.
Suggest one day if you can get to New York City and the 9/11 memorial and the tiny little church near by, read the letters, the stories of the families, the Aussie victims then you might get it...then again ....
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i was being a bit crude with 'white people'
the sad bit is people only care about first world places, paris, new york, sydney (i am basing this generalization on western news ... )
india or africa deaths dont make the news? they would rather put a monkey from the zoo on tv for 15 secs
- why? i think i know the reason :whistle
my heart goes out to the families to everyone in france, honestly. the big picture is just a bit saddening if you take the blinkers off.
what would Geez do? the geezer was (a brown feller) from palastine ffs :snidegrin
somehow i think the lord would be cracking the poos, knocking over tables, buying a richmond membership, pretty much agreeing with this: Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
Are them 10000 kids that die of no food every day, not also innocent mate?
#justsayin
I knew after I posted it either you or Penelopal would pose that exact question. I'm all for having a discussion about this because you are raising valid points but I implore you to not twist things just because I used the word innocent for one group (which they are) and not the other (which yes, yes they are innocent as well)
I'm not comparing how evil, sad or whatever each incident is but only why it hits people so much more and I think we somewhat agree. Some people don't care about starvation, some are ignorant to it and worst of all some choose to be ignorant. But I don't think what they go through should have any bearing on peoples reactions to what happened in France.
Instead of posting about neo-politics and the likes in 1st world countries why don't you post about what is happening in Africa for example?
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
Are them 10000 kids that die of no food every day, not also innocent mate?
#justsayin
I knew after I posted it either you or Penelopal would pose that exact question
my friend
surely it is a reasonable question ?
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It's really insensitive to peddle your arguments at the most inappropriate places and times
But hey it's not like you haven't done it before so carry on
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It's really insensitive to peddle your arguments at the most inappropriate places and times
But hey it's not like you haven't done it before so carry on
:cuddles
its insensitive to not report the number of women and kids that die every day, from preventable causes, in countries we were raping and pillaging only a few decades ago
it is not my argument
it is the facts* of the planet earth and what the humans are doing the fools
with respect
* oxfam, world health org. etc.
Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
Are them 10000 kids that die of no food every day, not also innocent mate?
#justsayin
I'm all for having a discussion about this because you are raising valid points but I implore you to not twist things just because I used the word innocent for one group (which they are) and not the other (which yes, yes they are innocent as well)
I'm not comparing how evil, sad or whatever each incident is but only why it hits people so much more and I think we somewhat agree. Some people don't care about starvation, some are ignorant to it and worst of all some choose to be ignorant. But I don't think what they go through should have any bearing on peoples reactions to what happened in France.
Instead of posting about neo-politics and the likes in 1st world countries why don't you post about what is happening in Africa for example?
very interesting stuff mate
i dont reckon i was "twisting" your words
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Whoever is killed or die for avoidable reasons - it's all despicable.
The difference is how the mainstream media covers it.
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last one - for those lovers of history check out the french record the last couple 100 years :whistle
Whoever is killed or die for avoidable reasons - it's all despicable.
The difference is how the mainstream media covers it.
the next question is who control the media?
well, thats me done.
:gotigers
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Whoever is killed or die for avoidable reasons - it's all despicable.
The difference is how the mainstream media covers it.
the next question is who control the media?
well, thats me done.
:gotigers
Media or agents of what the 'who' want us to know?
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So how much news about the west do you reckon they cover in the media of African nations? Or do they mostly just concern themselves with African issues?
last one - for those lovers of history check out the french record the last couple 100 years :whistle
While they're at it, perhaps they can also look up the record of The Ottoman Empire.... :whistle
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Why stop there?
Assyrians were amazing
Nazis of te ancient world
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I'm not into genocide but if we nuked the whole Middle wast, It would be a good start.
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I'm not into genocide but if we nuked the whole Middle wast, It would be a good start.
Good luck with that
The Zionist plan I if u try that, they nuke everyone ASAP
#notmukinaround
:clapping
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
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So how much news about the west do you reckon they cover in the media of African nations?
Depends who owns the media in those countries.
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As long as Deathspell Omega and Blut Aus Nord are OK.
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Surely you can see the difference between the people suffering from lack of water, food etc. compared to terrorist attacks?
No I can't
Death is death innit ?
Both terrible in ther own right don't get me wrong there. But I hardly think that people are losing their poo because these people are white. These are hateful mass killings of innocent people. It's a shock to every body it's happening unlike the starvation that everyone has become willful ignorant of.
Im pretty sure those dying of starvation/thirst/preventable diseases are just so grateful they are not victims of a terrorist attack
Surely you have to be kidding?
Are them 10000 kids that die of no food every day, not also innocent mate?
#justsayin
I knew after I posted it either you or Penelopal would pose that exact question. I'm all for having a discussion about this because you are raising valid points but I implore you to not twist things just because I used the word innocent for one group (which they are) and not the other (which yes, yes they are innocent as well)
I'm not comparing how evil, sad or whatever each incident is but only why it hits people so much more and I think we somewhat agree. Some people don't care about starvation, some are ignorant to it and worst of all some choose to be ignorant. But I don't think what they go through should have any bearing on peoples reactions to what happened in France.
Instead of posting about neo-politics and the likes in 1st world countries why don't you post about what is happening in Africa for example?
exactly, well said :thumbsup
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However, Reuters citing sources close to the investigation said the passport was found near the body of one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up on Friday near a Paris soccer stadium.
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Bents with the greatest of respect people like you and probably a few others on here always look for an angle when something like this happens
Call it for what THIS is, an atrocious attack on innocent people, and stop going on your illuminati anti bush America rant. No one disputes what your saying so create another thread about the starvation crisis, and let's have s discussion about how nothing is done about that. Of course not enough is done about that no normal human being can suggest otherwise.
I can guarantee if it was your daughter shot you would be singing a different tune , and can I say if you don't like how we conduct our business with some of our allies then perhaps it's time to consider moving to one you do like. It's the funniest thing that so many haters live here but they still stay. My brother works with a few and yep still here . :thumbsup
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Bents with the greatest of respect people like you and probably a few others on here always look for an angle when something like this happens
Call it for what THIS is, an atrocious attack on innocent people, and stop going on your illuminati anti bush America rant. No one disputes what your saying so create another thread about the starvation crisis, and let's have s discussion about how nothing is done about that. Of course not enough is done about that no normal human being can suggest otherwise.
I can guarantee if it was your daughter shot you would be singing a different tune , and can I say if you don't like how we conduct our business with some of our allies then perhaps it's time to consider moving to one you do like. It's the funniest thing that so many haters live here but they still stay. My brother works with a few and yep still here . :thumbsup
:clapping
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Bents with the greatest of respect people like you and probably a few others on here always look for an angle when something like this happens
Call it for what THIS is, an atrocious attack on innocent people, and stop going on your illuminati anti bush America rant. No one disputes what your saying so create another thread about the starvation crisis, and let's have s discussion about how nothing is done about that. Of course not enough is done about that no normal human being can suggest otherwise.
I can guarantee if it was your daughter shot you would be singing a different tune , and can I say if you don't like how we conduct our business with some of our allies then perhaps it's time to consider moving to one you do like. It's the funniest thing that so many haters live here but they still stay. My brother works with a few and yep still here . :thumbsup
(http://i.imgur.com/vgiIpLC.png)
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Bents with the greatest of respect people like you and probably a few others on here always look for an angle when something like this happens
Call it for what THIS is, an atrocious attack on innocent people, and stop going on your illuminati anti bush America rant. No one disputes what your saying so create another thread about the starvation crisis, and let's have s discussion about how nothing is done about that. Of course not enough is done about that no normal human being can suggest otherwise.
I can guarantee if it was your daughter shot you would be singing a different tune , and can I say if you don't like how we conduct our business with some of our allies then perhaps it's time to consider moving to one you do like. It's the funniest thing that so many haters live here but they still stay. My brother works with a few and yep still here . :thumbsup
Angus that is one of your best post, thank you
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Whoever is killed or die for avoidable reasons - it's all despicable.
The difference is how the mainstream media covers it.
Bingo!
and why/how do the mainstream media decide what and how to report? because they know they stir up a frenzy of emotion. They are actually playing right into the perpetrators hands, as this is exactly what they want to achieve. They want you to feel angry and afraid, that's why it is called terrorism and these are to main emotional responses to terror.
They are despicable acts conducted by evil people, but when its all said and done, just another in the long list of such by humans of all religion, race and creed.
Interestingly, when Russia invaded Georgia, bombing and killing innocent people, the world's media basically ignored it, much rather showing the Opening to the Olympics.
I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
It is also a great opportunity for some to peddle their hate and intolerance. Again, this is something that those who conduct these acts want, because this only feeds the cycle.
And if you want a good insight into ISIS and how they come about and the mess that the West created that gave them a foothold.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2015/10/29/4341298.htm
Dont you bother Daniel, there are things in here that you dont want to hear as it doesnt paint the rosy picture you have of your beloved yanks.
Speaking of which, it was just so nice of them to ignore what Russia did to Georgia after the Georgians helped the yanks in Iraq.
Real good way to treat you allies that was.
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I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
You know what makes picking and choosing what you get upset about worse? When people don't care about it until a separate incident occurs. Why wait until the attacks on Paris to decide you care about starvation in Africa? Just an attempt to be left wing and oppose anything that comes from the media. Which btw I believe doesn't influence what we get upset/angry about but rather we influence it. If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
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Fair point, but the bent judge has brought this up many times in the past, and i dont get the impression he brought it up now to inspire any emotion, but more a point of reference
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IIRC, during the Winter Olympics, the western media was far more concerned and preoccupied with Russia's gay rights record than it's invasion of Georgia.
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Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
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:lol
so true
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Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
Interesting. Also, look at the role of the Church. One of the pillars of western civilisation which claims to preach a message of peace, love and (arguably) morso these days, equality. Yet the church says, with particular relevance to Africa and in third world countries, AIDS is bad, but not nearly as bad as condoms are bad.
Particularly when the main thing which time and time again breaks the cycle of poverty is the empowerment of women through giving women control of their reproductive system. That and education.
But I digress......
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Whoever is killed or die for avoidable reasons - it's all despicable.
The difference is how the mainstream media covers it.
Bingo!
and why/how do the mainstream media decide what and how to report? because they know they stir up a frenzy of emotion. They are actually playing right into the perpetrators hands, as this is exactly what they want to achieve. They want you to feel angry and afraid, that's why it is called terrorism and these are to main emotional responses to terror.
They are despicable acts conducted by evil people, but when its all said and done, just another in the long list of such by humans of all religion, race and creed.
Interestingly, when Russia invaded Georgia, bombing and killing innocent people, the world's media basically ignored it, much rather showing the Opening to the Olympics.
I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
It is also a great opportunity for some to peddle their hate and intolerance. Again, this is something that those who conduct these acts want, because this only feeds the cycle.
And if you want a good insight into ISIS and how they come about and the mess that the West created that gave them a foothold.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2015/10/29/4341298.htm
Dont you bother Daniel, there are things in here that you dont want to hear as it doesnt paint the rosy picture you have of your beloved yanks.
Speaking of which, it was just so nice of them to ignore what Russia did to Georgia after the Georgians helped the yanks in Iraq.
Real good way to treat you allies that was.
That's not exactly where I was heading 100% but i tend to agree with a fair bit of that. Motives are an interesting matter.
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If this has already been raised by another poster my apologies.
With every terrorist attack comes discussion about increasing the powers of the intelligent communities and of police and the military to protect us.And the inevitable debate about curtailing or compromising freedoms to deal with the threats.How do people here feel about this?
Me I'm loathe to give up our freedoms ,for its our freedoms that sets us apart from these criminals.maybe rather than increasing the powers we should put more resources ,so the existing powers can be better exercised
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Bents with the greatest of respect people like you and probably a few others on here always look for an angle when something like this happens
Call it for what THIS is, an atrocious attack on innocent people, and stop going on your illuminati anti bush America rant. No one disputes what your saying so create another thread about the starvation crisis, and let's have s discussion about how nothing is done about that. Of course not enough is done about that no normal human being can suggest otherwise.
I can guarantee if it was your daughter shot you would be singing a different tune , and can I say if you don't like how we conduct our business with some of our allies then perhaps it's time to consider moving to one you do like. It's the funniest thing that so many haters live here but they still stay. My brother works with a few and yep still here . :thumbsup
I agree the deaths are atrocious. Is this where the conversation stops though?
Is there a bigger picture? Why did this disgusting set of acts happen? When we understand well be in a better position to stop the senseless killings, no? Does this constitute looking for an angle? Where is the high level political discussion on this in the media? why is it not being discussed?
Generally, should we not question or assess the situation just because we live in a safe western country?
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If this has already been raised by another poster my apologies.
With every terrorist attack comes discussion about increasing the powers of the intelligent communities and of police and the military to protect us.And the inevitable debate about curtailing or compromising freedoms to deal with the threats.How do people here feel about this?
Me I'm loathe to give up our freedoms ,for its our freedoms that sets us apart from these criminals.maybe rather than increasing the powers we should put more resources ,so the existing powers can be better exercised
anti encryption laws ...
Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
itching you get that off your chest were you? i will raise you the west (Christian) first world being run by a bunch of sadistic kiddie fiddlers. Governments, Churches, Military... the works.
how about the ultra Orthodox babies dying in new york cause the mole insisted on performed the 'cutting act' with his unclean mouth? sadly these things are very much fact. I can you supporting evidence if required but its a bit depressing, really
Not that I am a staunch fan of female circumcision, rather undignified for mine. Yet the Islamics dont have a monopoly of messed up stuff
should we stick on topic instead of focusing on your prejudices? ;)
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I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
You know what makes picking and choosing what you get upset about worse? When people don't care about it until a separate incident occurs. Why wait until the attacks on Paris to decide you care about starvation in Africa? Just an attempt to be left wing and oppose anything that comes from the media. Which btw I believe doesn't influence what we get upset/angry about but rather we influence it. If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
the randomness of dioc. does bring us full circle however
posing the question if we have crocodile tear for some girls in a sandy wasteland somewhere then why are we happy to be a bitch of the saudis? the no.1 sponsors of terror :whistle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/01/20150123_saudi.jpg)
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If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
Geez......Sorry but I can honestly say I can't recall a more simplistic and unworldy view on the media.
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Stay with us after the cricket for the special 'a world on edge '
Were we tell u why it's ok to support another nation states invasion
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what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
It's not about whether you care about the French people or not and not one person here has said their death is any more special than anyone else. My point was that some people wait for something bad to happen to voice their opinion on a separate matter. This isn't directed at just you, I know many people that do exactly that
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
Geez......Sorry but I can honestly say I can't recall a more simplistic and unworldy view on the media.
Okay, so you guys think mainstream media report stuff that no one gives a stuff about? No. It's all about profit and selling their material. So yes, of course they are going to spend more time reporting on something that more people care about.
So Dooks, what do you think dictates what gets the most air time? Or is it the media just trying to control our thoughts?
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what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
It's not about whether you care about the French people or not and not one person here has said their death is any more special than anyone else. My point was that some people wait for something bad to happen to voice their opinion on a separate matter. This isn't directed at just you, I know many people that do exactly that
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
Geez......Sorry but I can honestly say I can't recall a more simplistic and unworldy view on the media.
Okay, so you guys think mainstream media report stuff that no one gives a stuff about? No. It's all about profit and selling their material. So yes, of course they are going to spend more time reporting on something that more people care about.
So Dooks, what do you think dictates what gets the most air time? Or is it the media just trying to control our thoughts?
I am just guessing here. Cause I bang on about it a a bit , gving everyone te poos
But maybe, cause , some of those activists are like:
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
And then some French people die, a few dozen, t's the end world?
The cherry on top is the don't care camp claiming others are 'insensitive'
Or the law changes again making us less free and more orweillian
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If your reply is : "I don't care that I am less free , cause I got nothin to hide. Is it ok if I watch you next time u r doing number twos ? :shh. What do they keep telling us the world wars, Vietnam were about? Te invasion the Middle East? Rights? Freedom? Liberty?
Bit of a Shane to lose all that for a bunch of anti terror laws
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I am just guessing here. Cause I bang on about it a a bit , gving everyone te poos
But maybe, cause , some of those activists are like:
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
'Bad things are happening'
- don't care
And then some French people die, a few dozen, t's the end world?
The cherry on top is the don't care camp claiming others are 'insensitive'
Or the law changes again making us less free and more orweillian
Yes but isn't that exactly what the other party are doing as well (not all but a vast majority). People care about different things who gives a stuff
And also, no I don't want to lose my freedom or whatever you were asking. And yes you can watch me do number twos if you want I don't mind. I'm actually doing them now
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So it appears "France has dropped 20 bombs in Syria hitting a recruitment centre, ammunition depot and a training centre". Video's in the link.
https://www.facebook.com/Sunrise/videos/10153192169920887/
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I feel like Stalin here so this will be my last link posted ;D
http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/11/15/russia-today-just-destroyed-fake-news-on-paris-terror-attack/
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What does that mean? France dropping the bombs? Where's this going?
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They are taking out the seppo hardware
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However, Reuters citing sources close to the investigation said the passport was found near the body of one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up on Friday near a Paris soccer stadium.
(https://i.imgur.com/y4jEnVr.jpg)
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what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
It's not about whether you care about the French people or not and not one person here has said their death is any more special than anyone else. My point was that some people wait for something bad to happen to voice their opinion on a separate matter. This isn't directed at just you, I know many people that do exactly that
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
Geez......Sorry but I can honestly say I can't recall a more simplistic and unworldy view on the media.
Okay, so you guys think mainstream media report stuff that no one gives a stuff about? No. It's all about profit and selling their material. So yes, of course they are going to spend more time reporting on something that more people care about.
So Dooks, what do you think dictates what gets the most air time? Or is it the media just trying to control our thoughts?
http://i.imgur.com/O210dBz.jpg
:whistle
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I'm struggling to understand how anyone going by the name of Stalin can claim to be empathetic and an authority on human suffering.
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I'm struggling to understand how anyone going by the name of Stalin can claim to be empathetic and an authority on human suffering.
50 million russians voted, Stalin as the "3rd best Russian" ever :shh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7802485.stm
saved the planet earth for the nazis, more than you done ;)
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Also responsible for more than three times the deaths than Hitler.
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Also responsible for more than three times the deaths than Hitler.
We, do not hear, much about those 3 million dead indians Churchill was responsible for, do we?
http://www.ibtimes.com/bengal-famine-1943-man-made-holocaust-1100525
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
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They probably kept ringing him during dinner....serves 'em right I say....
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telstra fault, but
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Do Telstra also tell them to pretend they're from Microsoft?
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Also responsible for more than three times the deaths than Hitler.
We, do not hear, much about those 3 million dead indians Churchill was responsible for, do we?
http://www.ibtimes.com/bengal-famine-1943-man-made-holocaust-1100525
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
I don't really care though as I'm quite apathetic and with a mild strain of misanthropy. I was only trying to make a point. Now just quoting though for posterity to highlight the hypocrisy. :cheers
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Also responsible for more than three times the deaths than Hitler.
We, do not hear, much about those 3 million dead indians Churchill was responsible for, do we?
http://www.ibtimes.com/bengal-famine-1943-man-made-holocaust-1100525
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
I don't really care though as I'm quite apathetic and with a mild strain of misanthropy. I was only trying to make a point. Now just quoting though for posterity to highlight the hypocrisy. :cheers
You cannot be surprised than, that others care not old Joe broke a few eggs to make an omelette then, eh? How many were saved, by Russia not failing, big picture?
History is often rough of the most powerful men in the following years. After they die. As a few 100 year go past people often change their tune. Khan. Alex the great. Etc.
While I share your dislike of mankind (bastards) I fail to see te hypocrisy, comrade. One historian said something along the lines of at his best better than Peter the Great, at his worst worse than ivan the terrible. Complicated geezer, i think you may be oversimplifying it with pure death counts.
anywhoo - obama is doing his best to catch up; https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Do Telstra also tell them to pretend they're from Microsoft?
an authority source told me telstra dont actually ring u from india, my bad
just outsource 1000s of jobs and give the ceo 5 million pay outs :cheers
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http://i.imgur.com/O210dBz.jpg
:whistle
What's your point? Judging by this I think you have totally missed (or ignored) my point.
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http://i.imgur.com/O210dBz.jpg
:whistle
What's your point? Judging by this I think you have totally missed (or ignored) my point.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=23232.0
thoughts ?
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I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
You know what makes picking and choosing what you get upset about worse? When people don't care about it until a separate incident occurs. Why wait until the attacks on Paris to decide you care about starvation in Africa? Just an attempt to be left wing and oppose anything that comes from the media. Which btw I believe doesn't influence what we get upset/angry about but rather we influence it. If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
the randomness of dioc. does bring us full circle however
posing the question if we have crocodile tear for some girls in a sandy wasteland somewhere then why are we happy to be a bitch of the saudis? the no.1 sponsors of terror :whistle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/01/20150123_saudi.jpg)
:cheers
my boy putin knows whats up http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151116/1030199114/isil-financing-g20-putin.html
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muslim terrorist kill 220 russians
hows the media going on that one ?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-releases-audio-message-claiming-it-downed-russian-plane-in-sinai-and-says-it-will-reveal-method-a6720696.html
eat my shorts
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im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
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im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
Yep, we need a strong PM.
Bring back Abbott.
FFS the man ate a raw onion. what more do you want.
:cheers
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im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
erm... tone did not stop the boats albert
he just stopped reporting the boats rockin up,
jawohl accomdante
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im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
Yep, we need a strong PM.
Well we better start looking around because the weak, untrustworthy, spineless egotist we currently have will prove in time to be every bit as bad for our country as Rudd or Gillard. And in b4 anyone accuses me of wanting Abbott back. I don't know of any politicians in the country at present who are strong enough and smart enough to demand our respect. Just when we have a desperate need for leadership in the mould of Keating or Howard, we instead have a bag of soft-centred jelly beans.
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Well we better start looking around because the weak, untrustworthy, spineless egotist we currently have will prove in time to be every bit as bad for our country as Rudd or Gillard. And in b4 anyone accuses me of wanting Abbott back. I don't know of any politicians in the country at present who are strong enough and smart enough to demand our respect. Just when we have a desperate need for leadership in the mould of Keating or Howard, we instead have a bag of soft-centred jelly beans.
:clapping :clapping
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Thats rubbish smokey give the bloke a chance FFS. Thats good if you dont vote then you shouldnt come here all guns blazing when things dont go your way aye WP?
What did you expect him to do after a 2 months?
im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
erm... tone did not stop the boats albert
he just stopped reporting the boats rockin up,
jawohl accomdante
bello. please.
Send me the michael moore link when its released.
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Thats rubbish smokey give the bloke a chance FFS. Thats good if you dont vote then you shouldnt come here all guns blazing when things dont go your way aye WP?
Dear me Angus, I really do implore you to actually read what I write before you post whacks at me.
I have never said I never voted at the last election, what I said I about what on the Politics thread about not voting was this:
"Please Angus I really wish wouldn't speak for me when you haven't got a clue what my thoughts are. Again you have no idea
But just so you are clear
Currently I wouldn't vote for either party, just simply wouldn't vote at all.
Until they show me some concrete policies that will actually result in some sort of social change for the better in this country then no political side gets my vote'
From http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12416.msg525019#msg525019
So just to repeat: Right now I wouldn't vote for either party, can I make it clearer?
And the part of Smokey's post I was applauding, hence why I put it in BOLD was:
"I don't know of any politicians in the country at present who are strong enough and smart enough to demand our respect."
Which I whole heartedly agree
I have said Turnbull is doing OK but considering the buffoon he replaced that wouldn't be hard but he has a long way to go to demand my respect, ditto Shorten, ditto Truss, ditto Bishop, ditto Plibersek. That's the point.. again can I make it any clearer?
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The two party system is broken beyond repair. That is why the state of politics is so bad. in fact the Westminster system was never developed around political parties at all. Each elected member is supposed to represent their constituents, but what we see is members of parliament having to toe the party line rather than follow the wishes of those that vote them in and idealogy rules over the common good. Politicians spend more time bringing down their "opponents" rather than improving their own performance and as a result the less crap ones are getting voted in rather than the best ones.
The only people who cannot see how rotten things are, are the fan boys like dan, who actually contribute to the problem with their religious like blind faith in their "team."
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Okat great thanks for clearing that up WP, so tell me as im curious what did you see in the last party you voted for a few years back that you cant see happening now?
System is broken in 2 years is it or has the policies done a 180 and your not happy with them?
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Okat great thanks for clearing that up WP, so tell me as im curious what did you see in the last party you voted for a few years back that you cant see happening now?
System is broken in 2 years is it or has the policies done a 180 and your not happy with them?
First up I don't think this is right thread for this on going discussion it should be in the politics thread
As I said I vote for the parties that offer policies that are for the betterment of this country not throw things up because they are popular. I will vote for those who are prepared to make tough decisions
I think it is well known that the National Disability Insurance Scheme (it goes by a different name these days) was a significant policy for me, it was/is something that I am passionate about. So yes I will put my hand up and say I voted for Labor because of that policy; they introduced it; they championed it. It's importance can never and should never be questioned just because people don't like or respect the person who introduced it.
If any side of politics thant came forward now and said they would abolish the constant stream of handouts people who really shouldn't be receiving them get (eg family allowances) they'd get my vote in an instant. This "tweaking" of the eligibility rules doesnt go hard enough IMHO. Scrap them all and start again is the approach I'd love to see but no one has the guts to do that. Any side that has to guts to really improve things for our aged community again I'd support them.
But the biggest sealer for me would be any political party that had the guts to get rid of the ridiculous "benefits" pollies receive would get my vote. The Joe Hockey sham of claiming a living away from home allowance while living in a home owned by his wife is a rort, no ifs, buts or maybes. That is the ultimate tough decision though it actually should be the easiest and anyone who did that would be swept to power in a heartbeat IMHO
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That moment you realise that getting rid of Saddam was the wrong idea.
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Thats rubbish smokey give the bloke a chance FFS.
He's had a couple of months already Dan and here's the kicker - he hasn't done or changed a damn thing that wasn't already in place or in motion before he took over! And he was too gutless to front Abbott but undermined him for a long period before striking him. I don't trust him, I don't agree with some of his thinking and I think he's a snake oil salesman. And he has the perfect deputy who is even less trustworthy than him. He will prove to be about as effectual as Obama - all talk, all gloss, all friends to everyone but no fibre, no substance and no real action when it's desperately needed.
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More activity in Paris atm. Reports of shootouts and series of explosions :(
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That moment you realise that getting rid of Saddam was the wrong idea.
:snidegrin
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Thats rubbish smokey give the bloke a chance FFS. Thats good if you dont vote then you shouldnt come here all guns blazing when things dont go your way aye WP?
What did you expect him to do after a 2 months?
im guessing the europeans should have listened to Abbott on its borders. Not so wrong now was he lads. :shh
To have these flogs go through country to country says more about the security of the europeans.
Best thing abbott did was stop the illegal boats im sure we all agree aye?
erm... tone did not stop the boats albert
he just stopped reporting the boats rockin up,
jawohl accomdante
bello. please.
Send me the michael moore link when its released.
Sounds like you doing well enough with the scott morrison ministry of truth.
Bit soft to apologize to indonesia for towing a asylum seeker boat into their waters, is it not? the same time he is having a cry about them punishing a couple of smack smugglers
he crapped him self well and proper when putin rocked up with a gunship and a few Cossacks. Even forgot to hip-and-shoulder vlad
best thing hes done is tell his sister shes going to hell, and get knocked out at oxford a few times.
:edit - i thought you said he was 'powerful' for some reason. Too much cordial and thinking about Tzars, perhaps
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THREE terror suspects have been killed as heavily armed police swoop on a suburb in northern Paris, local media report. Police and military officers have surrounded an apartment in Saint-Denis where the mastermind of Friday’s attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, is believed to be holed up.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/paris-terror-attacks-france-russia-ramp-up-bombing-campaign-against-islamic-state-in-syria/news-story/76f0da5eebf5ffe7a1f90bb37f695ff7
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Moving on from the 'Turnbull is a spineless muncher' truth, I'll pose a question.
Do people think the Paris terrorist attacks represent a game changer with respect to the terrorists, the west and the general way this whole global saga is panning out?
I kind of get the impression that the terrorists are a lot more well organised now and won't be going away. The fact that the French Intelligence agencies appeR to have had zero idea indicates a much more sophisticated and comprehensive effort by ISIL.
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This is an entirely different beast. This isn't a bunch of dark age cave dwellers like the Taliban or Al-Qaeda. IS consider themselves a genuine country and are running things out of Al-Raqqah such as the administration of utilities and law and order (whatever that is there these days). I don't buy into the crap that Waleed said on the Project that went viral which pretty much amounted to blackmail, if you're mean to Muslims then they will join IS, but I agree that while Islam in general is nothing but a scourge that the majority of Muslims do not follow or agree with Salafism. In that regard I believe they can be crushed at home. They are not well organised outside their borders but just claim responsibility for anything done in their name. I also think the west is very hesitant in what to do. Too many failed missions since Vietnam. Saddam was brutal but crushed both Sunni and Shi'ite fanaticism and the problem we create now is the power vacuum every time someone is removed. What happens when IS are destroyed? Do the Ba'ath regain power? Does a crippled Syria gain their lost territory back by default or does someone like Hezbollah pinch a few parts? Do Shi'ites take control in either Syria or Iraq and enact retribution against the Sunnis? The Syrian civil war isn't even finished and no matter the outcome with IS that will continue and there will be consequences with which ever side gains an advantage.
The problem is clearly Islam and there will never be stability in the Middle East until the Earth is rid of it. With any luck the next generation of those escaping from there to the west now will not be pampered to by their new home governments where they live in a community that is nothing more than a bubble of their own people. Instead they have the opportunity to get a proper education and move on.
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With any luck the next generation of those escaping from there to the west now will not be pampered to by their new home governments where they live in a community that is nothing more than a bubble of their own people. Instead they have the opportunity to get a proper education and move on.
Yeah, that'll happen....
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the idea that if there was no islam there would be no problem is about as laughable as it gets.
oh look. lets just ban islam and then there will be no stuffed up sickos in the world. Humanity will then be able to move into the flower power age so desperately desired for by the drug stuffed hippies of the sixties.
Islam, the thing that makes people do these things that are so against human nature, 'cause all the atrocities committed by humans against humans in history have all been done in the name of islam.
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I never said no Islam = no problem, I said as long there is Islam there will always be problems. Out of the Abrahamic religions it is the crudest. At least the Jews only refer to Gentiles as animals and slaves and to control through deception (very much just Straussian philosophy), where as the Quran first distinguishes between Muslims and non Muslims and then preaches supremacy, hatred and violence. But we're talking about an entire region that is forever feuding over the definition of caliphate. This goes far beyond the catholic vs Protestant tension in Northern Ireland. Even Saudi Arabia is teetering on the edge. They have regular extremist uprisings and with Wahhabism as their official form of Sunni Islam, which is salafist, and only a step away from IS. Religion is a stain, I don't care which one it is, this one is just the biggest turd and the most threatening to the majority of the world who just wants to get on with life.
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
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Now now; Dooks , dwayno
Pls remember 9/1 was carried out by 18 Saudis with one pair of box cutters
These dudes living in caves are very savvy
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the idea that if there was no islam there would be no problem is about as laughable as it gets.
oh look. lets just ban islam and then there will be no stuffed up sickos in the world. Humanity will then be able to move into the flower power age so desperately desired for by the drug stuffed hippies of the sixties.
Islam, the thing that makes people do these things that are so against human nature, 'cause all the atrocities committed by humans against humans in history have all been done in the name of islam.
The holocaust was pretty bad but tbh
If u banned Islam 100 years ago you have no Muslim hitler. Oh wait
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
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And the Christians has a history of happiness and tea parties
Ladidadida
Edit - saw the last line, good save
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I know a few moderate Muslims and they are generally the same as moderate Christians getting on with their lives and living peaceful, functional lives. Both have to cherry pick the good from their scripture to do this mind you. Common sense approach I guess when scripture has so many flaws.
Its the the radical Muslims that are doing most of the damage these days in our realm. Having said that, the west and broader capitalist system is in many respects flawed and does not truly represent peace and equality for all in every respect like some would believe.
But maybe that's human nature of those who hold the balance of power. History would say so.
We are a flawed species.
Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
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I told a four year old (some form of small human, anyway) - 80 people own half the money in the world
The four year old said we were a silly bunch
Aliens must have the popcorn out
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Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
That is giving us far too much credit.
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I told a four year old (some form of small human, anyway) - 80 people own half the money in the world
The four year old said we were a silly bunch
Aliens must have the popcorn out
Extreme capitalism. Those 80 would probably hold enough resources to solve 90% of the world's problems and at the same time make decisions to advance our species 200 years forwards in terms of advances in science and medicine, technology, the environment and stepping out into the cosmos.
Such a shame it won't happen in our life times and probably well beyond that
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Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
That is giving us far too much credit.
True. We are in our infancy. Immature and selfish. the adult species out there don't want us at the adult dinner table.
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Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
That is giving us far too much credit.
True. We are in our infancy. Immature and selfish. the adult species out there don't want us at the adult dinner table.
Maybe maybe not ...
If you keep abreast of archeology te last 24 months ...
Not the first time it's all happened on this rock, lots of evidence leans towards
:shh
http://veda.wikidot.com/ancient-city-found-in-india-irradiated-from-atomic-blast
Sorry to stray off topic. Muslims are very naughty. Stop the boats. Etc.
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What happened to Stalins post with all the links???
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:whistle
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Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
That is giving us far too much credit.
True. We are in our infancy. Immature and selfish. the adult species out there don't want us at the adult dinner table.
Maybe maybe not ...
If you keep abreast of archeology te last 24 months ...
Not the first time it's all happened on this rock, lots of evidence leans towards
:shh
http://veda.wikidot.com/ancient-city-found-in-india-irradiated-from-atomic-blast
Sorry to stray off topic. Muslims are very naughty. Stop the boats. Etc.
PM archeology links pls.
Ok back on topic peoples!
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Other civilisations out in the broader universe would have to think we are a bloody primitive lot. Half-evolved.
That is giving us far too much credit.
True. We are in our infancy. Immature and selfish. the adult species out there don't want us at the adult dinner table.
Maybe maybe not ...
If you keep abreast of archeology te last 24 months ...
Not the first time it's all happened on this rock, lots of evidence leans towards
:shh
http://veda.wikidot.com/ancient-city-found-in-india-irradiated-from-atomic-blast
Sorry to stray off topic. Muslims are very naughty. Stop the boats. Etc.
Last 24 months? Zechariah Sitchin published that exact thing in the 80s in his book Wars of Gods and Men. Earth Chronicles series is a great read if you're into that sort of thing. Most convincing info I have ever read even if it is mostly speculative. I wrote him a letter when I was a teenager and he took the time to reply with a letter on a typewriter complete with corrections in pen. When he died a few years back I went hunting for the letter and was pretty bummed to find I have lost it.
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However, Reuters citing sources close to the investigation said the passport was found near the body of one of the suicide bombers who blew himself up on Friday near a Paris soccer stadium.
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and... the brother sold it on 9/11 :clapping
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you blokes and your illumunati theories. Give me a spell lads
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its alright , everything is as it seems :shh
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/times-of-israel-edits-article-scrubs-out-history-of-paris-jewish-community-being-warned-of-attack/
the idiot-box wouldnt lie to you
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Are you ready Geez? Aha
Buddha? Yeah
Muhammad? Okay
Well alright fellas, let's go
They're 5 miles high as the crow flies
leavin' vapour trails against a blood red sky
Movin' in from the East toward the West
with Balaclava helmets over their heads, yes!
But if you think that Geez Geez is coming
Honey you've got another thing coming
If he ever finds out who's hi-jacked his name
He'll cut out his heart and turn in his grave
Islam is rising
The Christians mobilising
The world is on its elbows and knees
It's forgotten the message and worships the creeds
It's war, she cried, It's war, she cried, this is war
Drop your possessions, all you simple folk
You will fight them on the beaches in your underclothes
You will thank the good lord for raising the union jack
You'll watch the ships out of harbour
and the bodies come floating back
If the real Geez Geez were to stand up today
He'd be gunned down by the C.I.A.
Oh, the lights that now burn brightest behind stained glass
Will cast the darkest shadows upon the human heart
But God didn't build himself that throne
God doesn't live in Israel or Rome
God doesn't belong to the yankee dollar
God doesn't plant the bombs for Hezbollah
God doesn't even go to church
And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
No, God will remind us what we already know
That the human race is about to reap what it's sown
The world is on its elbows and knees
It's forgotten the message and worships the creeds
Armageddon days are here again
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And God won't send us down to Allah to burn
LMAO
That should have the mentals frothing at the mouth
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If the real Geez Geez were to stand up today
He'd be gunned down by the C.I.A.
^^^
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
The reason they are not obnoxious brats basically comes down to socio-economics. Their teachings are all very similar. for example, there are numerous passages in the bible telling followers to kill or destroy anyone worshipping another god.
But, the majority of the fundamental Christians of today simple have too much to loose by rising up and committing the evil acts as called upon them in the bible. As a whole their life is pretty comfortable.
The vast majority of these mental cases in the middle east have little or nothing to loses, so they are easier to whip up into a religious fervour. As a whole, their life is pretty stuffed up and it doesnt take much to convince them that the west/christians are to blame for that.
Im loathe to use us and them for various reason, but for simplicity sake, if we, the well to do comfortable west were muslims and they the stuffed up with not much to lose were christians, It wouldn't be us commiting these acts on them just because we are muslim. The status quo wouldnt change, just the labels
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I can see why some people think Islam is a race. Muslims get together, there’s a loud bang, everyone starts running …
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you blokes and your illumunati theories. Give me a spell lads
bilderberg group -> federal reserve bankers pollie puppets -> illuminati
put down the VB and read a book
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I can see why some people think Islam is a race. Muslims get together, there’s a loud bang, everyone starts running …
:lol
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WGAF?
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WGAF?
You should, because it will be the more apparent and tangible reality your children and grandchildren inherit in a decade or two
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what? that experts see an obscure parallel between France, the country that terrorism originated in and a state founded on terrorism?
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
The reason they are not obnoxious brats basically comes down to socio-economics. Their teachings are all very similar. for example, there are numerous passages in the bible telling followers to kill or destroy anyone worshipping another god.
But, the majority of the fundamental Christians of today simple have too much to loose by rising up and committing the evil acts as called upon them in the bible. As a whole their life is pretty comfortable.
The vast majority of these mental cases in the middle east have little or nothing to loses, so they are easier to whip up into a religious fervour. As a whole, their life is pretty stuffed up and it doesnt take much to convince them that the west/christians are to blame for that.
Im loathe to use us and them for various reason, but for simplicity sake, if we, the well to do comfortable west were muslims and they the stuffed up with not much to lose were christians, It wouldn't be us commiting these acts on them just because we are muslim. The status quo wouldnt change, just the labels
which testament was that in old or new?
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There is plenty in the Talmud, I mean Old Testament. Deuteronomy 13 in every version is pretty much just to kill apostates.
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
The reason they are not obnoxious brats basically comes down to socio-economics. Their teachings are all very similar. for example, there are numerous passages in the bible telling followers to kill or destroy anyone worshipping another god.
But, the majority of the fundamental Christians of today simple have too much to loose by rising up and committing the evil acts as called upon them in the bible. As a whole their life is pretty comfortable.
The vast majority of these mental cases in the middle east have little or nothing to loses, so they are easier to whip up into a religious fervour. As a whole, their life is pretty stuffed up and it doesnt take much to convince them that the west/christians are to blame for that.
Im loathe to use us and them for various reason, but for simplicity sake, if we, the well to do comfortable west were muslims and they the stuffed up with not much to lose were christians, It wouldn't be us commiting these acts on them just because we are muslim. The status quo wouldnt change, just the labels
which testament was that in old or new?
why does that matter?
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Because old Testament was better.....especially the demos with Souza on vocals....
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Because old Testament was better.....especially the demos with Souza on vocals....
That's definitely /thread :bow
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Because old Testament was better.....especially the demos with Souza on vocals....
No they weren't
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old or new testament it's a pretty simple question one would of that.
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but is it one that has a point?
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
The reason they are not obnoxious brats basically comes down to socio-economics. Their teachings are all very similar. for example, there are numerous passages in the bible telling followers to kill or destroy anyone worshipping another god.
But, the majority of the fundamental Christians of today simple have too much to loose by rising up and committing the evil acts as called upon them in the bible. As a whole their life is pretty comfortable.
The vast majority of these mental cases in the middle east have little or nothing to loses, so they are easier to whip up into a religious fervour. As a whole, their life is pretty stuffed up and it doesnt take much to convince them that the west/christians are to blame for that.
Im loathe to use us and them for various reason, but for simplicity sake, if we, the well to do comfortable west were muslims and they the stuffed up with not much to lose were christians, It wouldn't be us commiting these acts on them just because we are muslim. The status quo wouldnt change, just the labels
which testament was that in old or new?
why does that matter?
Cause Christianity is in theory only worried about the 2nd half, cause of that Geez bloke ?
the old testament is (largely) irrelevant, from a christian perspective.
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Because old Testament was better.....especially the demos with Souza on vocals....
gods baby killing angel of death wrecking havoc :clapping
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Murder regicide, murder matricide
Murder homicide, murder, genocide
My psychotic god, my psychotic god
My psychotic god, my psychotic deity
Murder enslave, murder destroy
Murder slaughter, murder rape
Kill all the poo stabbing limpots, hang the sodomites and arse stuffers
My psychotic god, my psychotic god
My psychotic god, my psychotic god
Birds fly above my head, of faceless names it is said
Gravesset like teeth in line, rise from the dark below
Their memories rest here, there is no laughter in dread,
In somber reflection, of what rests underground.
Dominus dues spiritus
Maleficium daemonium
Extermitor sacramentum
Demogorgon ad inferos
Nercrominicon diabolis
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if there was no islam, these people would just use another crutch.
you are putting the horse before the cart.
The problem is humans, and islam, or any other religion, is just what they use to justify their actions and rope the vulnerable and disenfranchised into their net of deceit.
If all other things were exactly how they are now, except the capitalist and colonialist west were mainly Muslims and the middle east were Christians, would anything change?
There was a point in history where the islamic world were the more culturally, scientific and medically advanced, while the Christian hordes were little more than uncivilised barbarians who put a concerted effort into destroying the islamic world.
The problem has always been and always will be humans themselves. Blaming anything else is just denial of human nature.
I completely agree that the main problem is humans, and to suggest I think otherwise is to assume to have never ever read any of my posts I've ever put on this forum. But I'm not one to incessively labour a point to exhaustion over and over like some others here so very well you can be forgiven to have missed it.
Any other crutch isn't Islam though. Besides the brief moment in the Middle Ages you mentioned where the Arab Muslims sought to preserve the antiquities and knowledge that the Christians were actively trying to destroy they have known nothing but bloodshed. In fact it is a religion built entirely on bloodshed, especially that of Jews and Christians (even though they all worship the same god) to bring on end times. It is not one of longevity. Besides the Christian zionists that are over represented in positions of power Christianity has been on the decline in both numbers and as an authority. Sure it has been replaced by capitalism but that's not something you have to worry about waking up and being blown up over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the history of the west and their involvement in the Middle East. But every time we do anything there it isn't done properly. Every time a power vacuum is left and Islam rears its ugly head by the very same we trained and handed power over to. I don't see anything changing once IS is replaced. Until the Middle East grows out of Islam, especially salafist Islam, it will forever be a cess pool. But hey, at least it is a pretense to invade every decade.
I cannot find one redeeming characteristic of Islam. I can't of any Abrahamic religion but they're hardly obnoxious brats right now.
The reason they are not obnoxious brats basically comes down to socio-economics. Their teachings are all very similar. for example, there are numerous passages in the bible telling followers to kill or destroy anyone worshipping another god.
But, the majority of the fundamental Christians of today simple have too much to loose by rising up and committing the evil acts as called upon them in the bible. As a whole their life is pretty comfortable.
The vast majority of these mental cases in the middle east have little or nothing to loses, so they are easier to whip up into a religious fervour. As a whole, their life is pretty stuffed up and it doesnt take much to convince them that the west/christians are to blame for that.
Im loathe to use us and them for various reason, but for simplicity sake, if we, the well to do comfortable west were muslims and they the stuffed up with not much to lose were christians, It wouldn't be us commiting these acts on them just because we are muslim. The status quo wouldnt change, just the labels
which testament was that in old or new?
why does that matter?
Cause Christianity is in theory only worried about the 2nd half, cause of that Geez bloke ?
the old testament is (largely) irrelevant, from a christian perspective.
unless it suits them, of course, eg gay marriage.
Christians that do see the old testament that way are actually ignoring the teachings of their messiah, Geez Geez.
and yeah, i suspect that is where daniel was trying to head to.
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remember kids
isis bad
saudis good
Saudis to sue Twitter user who called poet's death sentence 'ISIS-like'
Reuters - 2 days ago
Saudi Arabia's justice ministry plans to sue a Twitter user who compared the death sentence ...
Saudi Arabia (white Daesh) is the father of Isis, says writer
The Guardian - 3 days ago
Twitter Users To Saudi Arabia: "Sue Me"
Vocativ - 1 day ago
I dont think the Bent judge is saying these are not despicable acts, just pointing out that we seem to pick and choose select few things to get angry/upset about, and this is largely influenced the media.
You know what makes picking and choosing what you get upset about worse? When people don't care about it until a separate incident occurs. Why wait until the attacks on Paris to decide you care about starvation in Africa? Just an attempt to be left wing and oppose anything that comes from the media. Which btw I believe doesn't influence what we get upset/angry about but rather we influence it. If more people cared about something, the media will report it.
what are you talking about ? :huh Can you explain to me why I should care 150 french people died*? why is their death any more special than anyone else? I dont mean to sound crude but I have no idea what you are on about.
*Yes, I do think they are 'despicable acts', for clarity.
the only part I understand is; If more people cared about something, the media will report it., And you are wrong i reckon.
How do you think the news works.
Is it a sort of democracy that reports what the majority of people "care about"?
Look at he plight of women in the the third world compared to the trivial shyte western feminists get all riled up about.
Who cares about young girls forced into marriage with older men or having their clitoris removed when we have the scourge of "manspreading"....
the randomness of dioc. does bring us full circle however
posing the question if we have crocodile tear for some girls in a sandy wasteland somewhere then why are we happy to be a bitch of the saudis? the no.1 sponsors of terror :whistle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/01/20150123_saudi.jpg)
:cheers
:lol
---> Saudi Arabia just promised to sue anyone who compares their justice system to IsisSyria/Iraq (independent.co.uk)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ashraf-fayadh-saudi-arabia-to-sue-twitter-user-describing-palestinian-poets-death-sentence-as-isis-a6749591.html
come at me you saudi, terror peddling, young-girl-clit-cutting, tossers
:pillowfight