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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WA Tiger on April 12, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
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No one who plays AFL is useless, its just that there are better players than them. These players would be good at a St Kilda or a bottom club but not a club that wants to be an on field powerhouse. I agree with the list. The list is 100% spot on.
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Stkilda wouldn't take them... I saw them last night - wtf?
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bit harsh on Gordon, has been the sub twice and the flow of the game is set by the time he comes on to the gorund. he made some errors but there's others who spent the entire game doing the same thing
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
ricky pettard?
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
ricky pettard?
and him as well!
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So that leaves you with....
Nick Vlastuin - Dylan Grimes - ???
Taylor Hunt - Alex Rance - ???
Kamdyn Mcintosh - Trent Cotchin - ???
Shane Edwards - Benjamin Griffiths - ???
Brett Deledio - Jack Riewoldt - ???
ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Dustin Martin
Bachar Houli - Brandon Ellis - Kane Lambert - ???
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If this season goes as I expect and that is we will finish somewhere mid table again I would like to see us finish this season with this line up
Corey Ellis - Todd Elton - David Astbury
Brandon Ellis - Alex Rance - Nick Vlastuin
Taylor Hunt - Dustin Martin - Kamdyn McIntosh
Chris Knights - Ben Griffiths - Brett Deledio
Shane Edwards - Jack Riewoldt - Ben Lennon
Ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Trent Cotchin
and the interchange from: Conca, McBean, McDonough, Butler, Menadue and Short.
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So that leaves you with....
Nick Vlastuin - Dylan Grimes - ???
Taylor Hunt - Alex Rance - ???
Kamdyn Mcintosh - Trent Cotchin - ???
Shane Edwards - Benjamin Griffiths - ???
Brett Deledio - Jack Riewoldt - ???
ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Dustin Martin
Bachar Houli - Brandon Ellis - Kane Lambert - ???
Yep, so what's that telling you!!!
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So that leaves you with....
Nick Vlastuin - Dylan Grimes - ???
Taylor Hunt - Alex Rance - ???
Kamdyn Mcintosh - Trent Cotchin - ???
Shane Edwards - Benjamin Griffiths - ???
Brett Deledio - Jack Riewoldt - ???
ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Dustin Martin
Bachar Houli - Brandon Ellis - Kane Lambert - ???
Yep, so what's that telling you!!!
Too much punctuation WAT.
Too many question marks and exclamation points.
As far as I am concerned that's team that in the overall scheme of things performs just modestly.
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So that leaves you with....
Nick Vlastuin - Dylan Grimes - ???
Taylor Hunt - Alex Rance - ???
Kamdyn Mcintosh - Trent Cotchin - ???
Shane Edwards - Benjamin Griffiths - ???
Brett Deledio - Jack Riewoldt - ???
ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Dustin Martin
Bachar Houli - Brandon Ellis - Kane Lambert - ???
Yep, so what's that telling you!!!
im just posing the questions not answering them ;)
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So that leaves you with....
Nick Vlastuin - Dylan Grimes - ???
Taylor Hunt - Alex Rance - ???
Kamdyn Mcintosh - Trent Cotchin - ???
Shane Edwards - Benjamin Griffiths - ???
Brett Deledio - Jack Riewoldt - ???
ivan Maric - Anthony Miles - Dustin Martin
Bachar Houli - Brandon Ellis - Kane Lambert - ???
Yep, so what's that telling you!!!
im just posing the questions not answering them ;)
Yes I know, but I'm just saying, look at the crap we have in that team, look at the gaps when we take out list cloggers.
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Vlastuin's output hasn't been any better than those in the op list
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Vlastuin's output hasn't been any better than those in the op list
true but at least he is having a red hot go most of the time.
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Vlastuin went off injured earlier in the game so it's likely he didn't play at close to 100%
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Vlastuin's output hasn't been any better than those in the op list
he got hurt
like he often does, cause he trys harder than others
at least he went back on and tried
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Vlastuin's output hasn't been any better than those in the op list
Vlastuin's still 20 years old....as for his output so far ...was good in his first year and was one of only three plyers that stood up in EF and tried to get us back in the game when Carlton was overrunning us (Maric & Cotchin being the other two) was more cold than hot last year, hardly the first player to have second year blues, nonetheless still played well in a crunch game at Adelaide and was one of our best in the second half last week. So no real comparison at all really.
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
may as well add to those 7
arnot
dea
drummond
elton
mcdonough
hampson
mcbean
all look more like going than staying then add in the mature ones who wont be around
houli
maric
foley
knights
vickery
thomas
then add in those who could still go either way
griffiths
conca and most of the juniors and the work to be done is enormous. there was always a shedload to do 2 or 3 yrs ago but those in charge thought other wise.
at least half the list should seriously be looked at in the short term.
imo there really is only about 6 players plus 4 or 5 juniors who are untouchable.
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Vlastuin's output hasn't been any better than those in the op list
Vlastuin's still 20 years old....as for his output so far ...was good in his first year and was one of only three plyers that stood up in EF and tried to get us back in the game when Carlton was overrunning us (Maric & Cotchin being the other two) was more cold than hot last year, hardly the first player to have second year blues, nonetheless still played well in a crunch game at Adelaide and was one of our best in the second half last week. So no real comparison at all really.
true in particular about his second year, but he is now into his third year and is around the 50 game mark, so he should be starting to have more influence on games (not saying dominate). he is one of the players that needs to improve if we are to get better and i have high expectations of him, which means i will judge him accordingly. By no means writing him off, but want to see more out of him
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I now believe he would be a much better player with another coach and that's not being sensationalist, how do you reckon he'd develop under a ross lyon?
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
may as well add to those 7
arnot
dea
drummond
elton
mcdonough
hampson
mcbean
all look more like going than staying then add in the mature ones who wont be around
houli
maric
foley
knights
vickery
thomas
then add in those who could still go either way
griffiths
conca and most of the juniors and the work to be done is enormous. there was always a shedload to do 2 or 3 yrs ago but those in charge thought other wise.
at least half the list should seriously be looked at in the short term.
imo there really is only about 6 players plus 4 or 5 juniors who are untouchable.
My strong feeling is that Drummond won't make it either claw but I have to laugh at you adding him to WAT's "must go" list before he's even played a competitive match. As for writing off McBean - well that's laughable for a number of reasons. Guess topping the goal kicking in your first two years, including second in the entire league despite missing six games and playing in a poor side counts for stuff all if you you play poorly in a couple of televised practice matches.(one of which came after spending most of the off-season in a moon boot) Also claw, you do realise that he was drafted with the expectation that he would probably take 3-4 years to be ready for senior football and he has only just started his 3rd year?
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claw thought rance was no good until about 3 weeks ago lol ... don't take everything so seriously.
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I now believe he would be a much better player with another coach and that's not being sensationalist, how do you reckon he'd develop under a ross lyon?
food for thought, for sure.
i reckon a few AFL coaches would have given him a run in the center before Ellis in an attempt to get his hands on the ball and just to see how he went when we needed somes drive from the middle
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Lloyds a funny one. Haven't rated him but I was actually pleased with his game on the weekend. Despite kicking less goals I thought he had a better game because he had more of a presence offensively and defensively.
An unpopular opinion I'm sure but I still rate Morris as a role player. He shouldn't be up forward but that's not his fault. Still has a lot to offer as a lock down small back but also needs to improve in a lot of areas. I felt like we were back in pre 2011 with a no name small forward having a career best game against us.
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Lloyds a funny one. Haven't rated him but I was actually pleased with his game on the weekend. Despite kicking less goals I thought he had a better game because he had more of a presence offensively and defensively.
An unpopular opinion I'm sure but I still rate Morris as a role player. He shouldn't be up forward but that's not his fault. Still has a lot to offer as a lock down small back but also needs to improve in a lot of areas. I felt like we were back in pre 2011 with a no name small forward having a career best game against us.
I think its clear after only 2 games Morris isnt a natural crumbing forward. Maybe he'll improve there but on the weekend he got moved back because he barely got seen.
Lloyd ought to be a better kick at goal. He sprayed a few shots that he ought not to.
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I still like Morris as a small defender too.
Give him a man and tell him not to let him touch the footy each week and i reckon he is fine.
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
may as well add to those 7
arnot
dea
drummond
elton
mcdonough
hampson
mcbean
all look more like going than staying then add in the mature ones who wont be around
houli
maric
foley
knights
vickery
thomas
then add in those who could still go either way
griffiths
conca and most of the juniors and the work to be done is enormous. there was always a shedload to do 2 or 3 yrs ago but those in charge thought other wise.
at least half the list should seriously be looked at in the short term.
imo there really is only about 6 players plus 4 or 5 juniors who are untouchable.
But thats as it should be given the compromised drafts they all came in during.
Hopefully in 2 years there are 9 or 10 obvious untouchables and 5 juniors
Sure the list has holes but the general standard has improved. The losses arent huge the team doesnt drop its bundle as it did before.
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I still like Morris as a small defender too.
Give him a man and tell him not to let him touch the footy each week and i reckon he is fine.
Maybe he should be a tagger.
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Doubt he can run with a midfielder.
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Round 2 has just finished & you want to delist players after 1 win & 1 loss ;D
Tuffen up & let everyone settle into the season :lol even the Dawks got beaten today ;D Pussycats on the bottom of the ladder & Port Adelaide is in crisis :lol
Get behind your club & barrack for them for a change :gotigers
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
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I still like Morris as a small defender too.
Give him a man and tell him not to let him touch the footy each week and i reckon he is fine.
Not many good clubs have defenders that dont get the ball or cannot kick
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
when you think about it WAT theres a good chance maric, riewoldt, knights, thomas, foley, deledio and maybe rance wont be a part of a premiership based on age alone.or if they are their best will be way behind em.
how long realistically do people think it will take for us to even play in a gf.
Then theres the ones you didnt mention. we are nowhere near a premiership.
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Then theres the ones you didnt mention. we are nowhere near a premiership.
You've made a bit of sense lately Claw, but I disagree on that. A few more high quality players, a good gameplan and some confidence and we could go pretty far with the core group of players that we have.
Things can change quick, as shown by Port.
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Then theres the ones you didnt mention. we are nowhere near a premiership.
You've made a bit of sense lately Claw, but I disagree on that. A few more high quality players, a good gameplan and some confidence and we could go pretty far with the core group of players that we have.
Things can change quick, as shown by Port.
port dont have a ruddy great anchor around their neck weighing them down called jackson.
how many yrs willy do you think it would realistically be before we play in a gf yet alone win one. then be honest and ask who will be gone or past it. mate im being optoimistic when i say 5 yrs for a premiership. those in charge have shown a total inability to build a good list slowly yet alone do it quickly.
we have to get the horse back in front of the cart and do something about recruiting before we can even contemplate building a list. while they are sugar coating everything they do we will stagnate.
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Then theres the ones you didnt mention. we are nowhere near a premiership.
You've made a bit of sense lately Claw, but I disagree on that. A few more high quality players, a good gameplan and some confidence and we could go pretty far with the core group of players that we have.
Things can change quick, as shown by Port.
port dont have a ruddy great anchor around their neck weighing them down called jackson.
how many yrs willy do you think it would realistically be before we play in a gf yet alone win one. then be honest and ask who will be gone or past it. mate im being optoimistic when i say 5 yrs for a premiership. those in charge have shown a total inability to build a good list slowly yet alone do it quickly.
we have to get the horse back in front of the cart and do something about recruiting before we can even contemplate building a list. while they are sugar coating everything they do we will stagnate.
It's hard to say, but if things go our way, I believe that we could make the grand final in two years. Not saying we will, but i dont think it's out of the question.
We would need to make changes to the list and coaching ranks but the competition is super close these days.
Just for example, if Rance stays on, we add Sheil, a couple of kids come on and replace some duds, and we change things up in the coaches box, I believe we COULD be top four material.
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
Decent arse wipe and toilet flush needed there to wash away the turds.
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Batch
Grigg
Morris
Chaplin
Lloyd
Newman
Gordon
All must go, they are not going to be in a GF side, stuffing pathetic. They give up, they are useless.
To date, I will stand by this!!!