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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on September 05, 2005, 06:06:50 PM
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Well done to Joel :cheers. Named All Australian on the left Half Back Flank.
It hasn't been announced officially but it's on a hidden page on the AFL website
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=227285
The Full Side:
B: James Clement (Coll), Ben Rutten (Ade), David Wirrpunda (WCE)
HB: Joel Bowden (Rich), Trent Croad (Haw), Luke Hodge (Haw)
C: Nick Dal Santo (St. Kil), Scott West (WB), Lenny Hayes (St. Kil)
HF: Mark Ricciuto © (Ade), Matthew Pavlich (Fre), Shannon Grant (Kang)
F: Brad Johnson (WB), Barry Hall (Syd), Peter Everitt (Haw)
R: Dean Cox (WCE), Luke Ball (St. Kil), Ben Cousins (WCE)
INT: Leo Barry (Syd), Kane Cornes (PA), Simon Goodwin (Ade), Brent Harvey (Kang)
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Wow! Congrats if it's true. It's justifiabe I think.
I'd like ot hear though how the All-Australian selectors justify Russell Robertson not being in the team kicking 70 odd goals as a flanker. I'd have him in the team before Brad Johnson or Shannon Grant.
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
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Very true John, Robertson is very stiff to miss out.
Well done to Bowdo though, it is a fantastic effort and a great credit to the way he has prepared himself and also conducted himself on the field this season. He has truly made it as a top notch player after this season by backing up his fantastic finish to last season.
Also glad that Fletcher wasnt named full back, i would have spewed if he got it before Gaspar. Rutten has been solid for the crows all season and i dont have a problem with that.
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Robertson > Grant
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
Don't know about anyone else, but he's my smokey for back to back B&Fs. Don't know if he's had a great year, but he's been pretty consistent.
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I dont.
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
LMFAO
Here's the thing dude.
I pharrken HATE the position that he plays. Loose man in defense is a blight on the game IMO.
BUT, there's no denying he plays the position well. He reads the play well, gets heaps of the footy and does initiate a lot of drive for our forward thrusts.
I'd rather see a bloke like Tuck get rewarded with All-Australian selection than have have your Joel Bowdens Luke Hodges, Joel Smiths and Austin Jones' get selection.
But given the current phaggotisation of the game where every team is anal retentive and feels they must play an extra man down back out of fear of going one on one, I suppose Bowden deserves a spot.
Even given that, it may be hard to justify two similar blokes in the same role, and I suppose Hodge has probably been a bit better than Bowden, but Bowden's been playing the role well for two years now, and was probably unlucky to miss last year.
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WELL DONE JOEL
and btw, when i said in a previous post croad will get the chb position all and sundry laughed and had a dig at my comment, well he who laughs last laughs loudest! and that goes 4 barry too as i said he would make it
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
LMFAO
Here's the thing dude.
I pharrken HATE the position that he plays. Loose man in defense is a blight on the game IMO.
BUT, there's no denying he plays the position well. He reads the play well, gets heaps of the footy and does initiate a lot of drive for our forward thrusts.
I'd rather see a bloke like Tuck get rewarded with All-Australian selection than have have your Joel Bowdens Luke Hodges, Joel Smiths and Austin Jones' get selection.
But given the current phaggotisation of the game where every team is anal retentive and feels they must play an extra man down back out of fear of going one on one, I suppose Bowden deserves a spot.
Even given that, it may be hard to justify two similar blokes in the same role, and I suppose Hodge has probably been a bit better than Bowden, but Bowden's been playing the role well for two years now, and was probably unlucky to miss last year.
u may hate the posi he plays and he may hate it too, but he is named as the all aus hbf because he was so damn good at it , ffs be bloody happy that he made the team, bloody hell cant u at least show some respect 4 the guy who is just playing and doing as he is instructed for a team u supposedly love! and hhodge plays differently to bowden as bowden plays alot taller. if tuck deserved to be in it he would have been named as i feel richo deserved a spot too, but u cant have everyone in theyr and the midfield they named was pretty hot. judd even missed out
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
LMFAO
Here's the thing dude.
I pharrken HATE the position that he plays. Loose man in defense is a blight on the game IMO.
BUT, there's no denying he plays the position well. He reads the play well, gets heaps of the footy and does initiate a lot of drive for our forward thrusts.
I'd rather see a bloke like Tuck get rewarded with All-Australian selection than have have your Joel Bowdens Luke Hodges, Joel Smiths and Austin Jones' get selection.
But given the current phaggotisation of the game where every team is anal retentive and feels they must play an extra man down back out of fear of going one on one, I suppose Bowden deserves a spot.
Even given that, it may be hard to justify two similar blokes in the same role, and I suppose Hodge has probably been a bit better than Bowden, but Bowden's been playing the role well for two years now, and was probably unlucky to miss last year.
u may hate the posi he plays and he may hate it too, but he is named as the all aus hbf because he was so damn good at it , ffs be bloody happy that he made the team, bloody hell cant u at least show some respect 4 the guy who is just playing and doing as he is instructed for a team u supposedly love! and hhodge plays differently to bowden as bowden plays alot taller. if tuck deserved to be in it he would have been named as i feel richo deserved a spot too, but u cant have everyone in theyr and the midfield they named was pretty hot. judd even missed out
Refer to my initial post.
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I dont.
I agree with you oxx
what a joke.
Bowden had a decent year but not All Australian.
Laughable.
As for our B & F Tuck will win it in a canter, he was our best player this year, no way in the world Bowden will get close to him in 2005.
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How did 3 players from the 15th side in the comp who won only 5 games and had the 4th worst defence get a guernsey ??? Maguire from the Saints should have been CHB IMO. Croad was playing up forward in the second half of the year. Hodge led the comp in most ballwinning categories so no complaints he's in there. Gilbee surely should of been in the back six AA ahead of Clement ???
Everitt as second ruckman should be on the bench as he didn't play forward. That would have left a spot open for Robertson.
I think the Coleman medalist should be the FF which would have been Gehrig. The rest I think the selectors got right.
As a Tiger supporter I'm biased but Joel was in the top 3-4 rebounders out of defensive 50 in the AFL so along with his hefty disposal stats and very good disposal and distribution he deserved his spot IMHO. Browny points from last year would have helped as well which happens in these awards. Bowden is more versatile too as he can play the sweeper role well as well as pick up a tall forward if need be. Great reward for Bowden for his form the past 2 years.
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LMAO@THAT.
Do u rekkon he deserves it.?
LMFAO
Here's the thing dude.
I pharrken HATE the position that he plays. Loose man in defense is a blight on the game IMO.
BUT, there's no denying he plays the position well. He reads the play well, gets heaps of the footy and does initiate a lot of drive for our forward thrusts.
I'd rather see a bloke like Tuck get rewarded with All-Australian selection than have have your Joel Bowdens Luke Hodges, Joel Smiths and Austin Jones' get selection.
But given the current phaggotisation of the game where every team is anal retentive and feels they must play an extra man down back out of fear of going one on one, I suppose Bowden deserves a spot.
Even given that, it may be hard to justify two similar blokes in the same role, and I suppose Hodge has probably been a bit better than Bowden, but Bowden's been playing the role well for two years now, and was probably unlucky to miss last year.
u may hate the posi he plays and he may hate it too, but he is named as the all aus hbf because he was so damn good at it , ffs be bloody happy that he made the team, bloody hell cant u at least show some respect 4 the guy who is just playing and doing as he is instructed for a team u supposedly love! and hhodge plays differently to bowden as bowden plays alot taller. if tuck deserved to be in it he would have been named as i feel richo deserved a spot too, but u cant have everyone in theyr and the midfield they named was pretty hot. judd even missed out
Refer to my initial post.
sorry champ
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I dont.
I agree with you oxx
what a joke.
Bowden had a decent year but not All Australian.
Laughable.
As for our B & F Tuck will win it in a canter, he was our best player this year, no way in the world Bowden will get close to him in 2005.
think your wrong there, richo and bowden will be up there too and my gut feeling is richo may just pip tuck over the line or it will be a tie
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SHEAHAN'S TEAM OF THE YEAR
(from the Herald Sun website)
B: Wirrpunda, Fletcher, Clement
HB: Gilbee, C. Cornes, Hodge
C: Goodwin, West, Hayes
HF: Cousins (c), Pavlich, Edwards
F: Robertson, Hall, B. Harvey
Foll: Everitt, Ball, K. Cornes
Inter: Ricciuto, Cox, Tredrea, Grant.
Coach: Neil Craig
After jumping on the bandwagon earlier in the year, Mike Sheahan has obviously gone back to his Tiger-hating ways. And after announcing the All Australian team who really cares what Mr. Sheahan thinks is the team of the year. Does this guy have tickets on himself or what? ::)
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SHEAHAN'S TEAM OF THE YEAR
(from the Herald Sun website)
B: Wirrpunda, Fletcher, Clement
HB: Gilbee, C. Cornes, Hodge
C: Goodwin, West, Hayes
HF: Cousins (c), Pavlich, Edwards
F: Robertson, Hall, B. Harvey
Foll: Everitt, Ball, K. Cornes
Inter: Ricciuto, Cox, Tredrea, Grant.
Coach: Neil Craig
After jumping on the bandwagon earlier in the year, Mike Sheahan has obviously gone back to his Tiger-hating ways. And after announcing the All Australian team who really cares what Mr. Sheahan thinks is the team of the year. Does this guy have tickets on himself or what? ::)
To be honest, I think we should be stoked that he chose Razor, out of position, at full-forward. :thumbsup ;D
I don't know how many players we could realistically make a case for...
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Richo, Tuck or Bowden?
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Brown. Even after only 10 games I would have thought he'd be a walk-up start.
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Well done Joel on attaining All Australian having said that I'm perplexed at the class of player selected, take the backline for example we have Croad, Hodge & Clement all from clubs who couldn't win 5 gamers for the season. I thought Richo & Tuck were unlucky.
Two clubs playing finals don't have a representitive, I believe the selectors have passed their used by date and it's time people who are not long out of the game sit on these panels.
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I thought Richo & Tuck were unlucky.
Tucky, possibly unlucky.
I'm not sure how Richo could have been selected in front of Hall or Pavlich. Pavlich has been unbelievable at times and plays a more difficult true CHF role. Living up here in Sydney I've seen a lot of Hall and I reckon he is absolutely tremendous. He gets as much attention as Richo, but seems better at bringing other players into the game, a real physical presence too. Granted the likes of O'Keefe and Buchanan are easier to play with than Krak, but in my mind he thouroughly deserves the full-forward spot.
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Two clubs playing finals don't have a representitive, I believe the selectors have passed their used by date and it's time people who are not long out of the game sit on these panels.
Robertson was unlucky from the Dees but both Melbourne and Geelong just fell into the finals in the end given there were 3 spots up for grabs out of 7 clubs with 2 rounds to go. Plus the Cats are a very even side with no real superstars. Milburn was probably their only chance as Scarlett's first half of the year was poor.
In saying that yeah it's time for some fresh faces or at least different faces. The same people seem to get chosen to judge nearly every award.