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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 🏅Dooks on August 30, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
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This is one of the most dangerous things I've seen on a football ground at this level. >:(
Irresponsible, dangerous and entirely deliberate. At with just 4 minutes to go in the game. :thumbsdown
How many weeks should he get?
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This is one of the most dangerous things I've seen on a football ground at this level. >:(
Irresponsible, dangerous and entirely deliberate. At with just 4 minutes to go in the game. :thumbsdown
How many weeks should he get?
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I was so pleased Lids was not injured, while Dempsey perpetrated the act, he is only doing what he has been taught.
The AFL, has got this aspect of the game wrong and a rule change to prevent it needs to be investigated and implemented.
It is only a matter of time until an AFL player gets their neck broken.
Dempsey will go for a while but this is not the issue. If a players neck is broken would it be 8 weeks?
The whole act/result also needs to be investigated as well.
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3-4 weeks
Dog act
What there was 4 mins left in the game ?
WTF
Terrible effort
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What about the trying to drag him up afterwards? That's a second report for rough play, imagine the damage he could've caused had Lids a serious neck injury.
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6 weeks or AFL are not serious
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3-4 weeks
Dog act
What there was 4 mins left in the game ?
WTF
Terrible effort
This
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Only a small angle of impact away from Lids being a bloody quadriplegic.
Dog act and there's no two ways about it.
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
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This would even get you rubbed out in the NRL. The double action was completely unnecessary and Dempsey was very lucky he didn't cause Deledio any serious injury.
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
Was it worse than Dempsey 's dog act?
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infinitely.
deledio didnt seem too concerned after the game when was chatting with dempsey.
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Lids was fortunate enough to be able to bereak his fall with his hand.
If not- He was stuffed.
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
Was it worse than Dempsey 's dog act?
From memory I reckon Walker had more momentum running into Morris with pace to tackle to then spear tackle him. Goal posts have shifted more since then though. Tribunal have to refer this and he should get a minimum of 4 at least.
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
Was it worse than Dempsey 's dog act?
Don't know, maybe the one on Deledio was worse, they were very similar actions. Didn't seem to phase Morris much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcapQVA3eY - Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UtCRCfoPY - Deledio
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4 weeks but because his not a Richmond player on trial he will get 2 weeks
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
Was it worse than Dempsey 's dog act?
Don't know, maybe the one on Deledio was worse, they were very similar actions. Didn't seem to phase Morris much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcapQVA3eY - Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UtCRCfoPY - Deledio
dempsy fell backwards and took deledio with him. delidos shoulder actually hit the ground as his head did
walker lifted morris, flipped and pile drove him into the ground. he went head first into the ground and you could see his head bent horribly due to way he went into the ground.
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Not far off a wheel chair for life
Dirty drug cheating sob
Boooo
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If the afl are fair stuffen dinkum , the idiot should get 8 weeks to send a message on careless and reckless tackles and I'd go even further and fine ess for being so irresponsible in their coaching. Do they not train players to tackle without endangering their opponents lives , the Q needs to be asked :shh
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
3 weeks.
Was it worse than Dempsey 's dog act?
Don't know, maybe the one on Deledio was worse, they were very similar actions. Didn't seem to phase Morris much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcapQVA3eY - Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1UtCRCfoPY - Deledio
dempsy fell backwards and took deledio with him. delidos shoulder actually hit the ground as his head did
walker lifted morris, flipped and pile drove him into the ground. he went head first into the ground and you could see his head bent horribly due to way he went into the ground.
Both players shoulders hit the ground with their head, Morris even had his arm out to brace it (not that that would of worked very well). Yes Morris' neck went at a weird angle but I also believe Deledios looked to have more force behind it due to the momentum. Not sure why you are arguing, I said Deledios was maybe worse but at the end of the day they were both stupid dangerous tackles.
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Yep Morris could of been dead
And his team mates did not fly the flag
Wtf
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It was a gutless act
3-4 weeks
Agree with Jack
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What'd Taylor Walker get for the similar one on Steve Morris?
A free kick and a shot at goal
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He did too , the umpire should have been pile driven for that stuff up :whistle
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Dempsey and the sling tackle to come under fresh scrutiny
Emma Quayle
The Age
August 30, 2015 - 5.45 pm
The slam tackle will again be placed on the match review panel's agenda, with Essendon defender Courtenay Dempsey the latest player to come under scrutiny.
Dempsey, who is a free agent and yet to be contracted for 2016, was also upset on Sunday by a racist message posted to his Instagram account by a Richmond supporter after the tackle.
He was booked during the final quarter of the Bombers' four-goal loss to Richmond on Saturday night, after throwing Brett Deledio to the ground in a heavy tackle.
Having stripped Deledio of the ball, Dempsey then lifted him up and backwards while standing, with Deledio then hitting the MCG turf with the back of his head.
Dempsey may not have known Deledio had lost hold of the ball when he began to tackle him, but drove him forcefully to the ground head-first regardless.
The move was compared in some parts to a professional wrestling move known as the German suplex, and Deledio spent a few moments on the ground being attended to by trainers before getting back to his feet.
Deledio and Dempsey spoke on the ground after the final siren, and the Richmond star was not considered in any doubt for the Tigers' final-round match against North Melbourne.
Dempsey is not the only player set to come under scrutiny, with a tackle laid by North's Shaun Atley also likely to be assessed by the panel.
Atley lifted Lachie Hunter, but appeared to turn the Western Bulldog on his side as he sent him towards ground. Hunter hit the turf with his right shoulder – as opposed to his head – and was awarded a free kick.
The dangerous nature of sling tackles has been a talking point all season, with Carlton onballer Bryce Gibbs receiving a two-match suspension for his tackle on Port Adelaide's Robbie Gray in June.
Gray was taken from the field on a stretcher after his head hit the ground heavily, and then subbed out of the match with mild concussion.
Power forward Jay Schulz was later cleared for a tackle that concussed Sydney defender Ted Richards, on the basis that the tackle was "not unreasonable" in the circumstances.
Melbourne's Jeremy Howe also avoided penalty for his tackle on Essendon midfielder Alex Browne, who was subsequently subbed out of the match.
The AFL's football operations manager, Mark Evans, said "on reflection" Schulz should have been charged with rough conduct, as Gibbs was.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said after Saturday night's game that the lift was the most dangerous element of such tackles, not the slinging process.
"The sling to me is – I'd better be careful how I say this – part of AFL football. But as soon as you lift you're probably in a little bit of trouble. You probably owe the duty of care," Hardwick said.
"I've got no doubt Courtenay didn't mean it. It was just one of those things, how we tackle, but now it's probably changed a little bit with the goal posts moving in that area.
"I'm just glad everyone walked away OK."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendons-courtenay-dempsey-and-the-sling-tackle-to-come-under-fresh-scrutiny-20150830-gjb2ta.html
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Courtenay Dempsey should be sent straight to the tribunal for his sling tackle on Brett Deledio, says Cameron Ling
Herald-Sun
August 31, 2015
COURTENAY Dempsey may have played his last game at Essendon with his dramatic sling tackle compared to the incident that ended Alex McKinnon’s NRL career.
Dempsey picked up and dumped Richmond’s Brett Deledio, who on Sunday revealed he lost consciousness after being driven into the turf.
The hit could be assessed as intentional and high impact and sent straight to the tribunal.
If the match review panel assesses it as careless and high impact he could serve only a two-match suspension.
Dempsey is a free agent at Essendon and would seem unlikely to get another contract after only 13 games this season.
But Richmond champion Matthew Richardson urged the AFL to make a statement on similar damaging tackles.
Courtenay Dempsey dumps Brett Deledio into the ground. Picture: Getty Images Source: Getty Images
Geelong premiership captain Cameron Ling said the “lift and dump” action reminded him of the tackle that damaged Newcastle player McKinnon’s spinal cord.
“For anyone out there saying this is part of the game, just think what happened to Alex McKinnon,” Ling said.
“Those Storm players never meant harm in that but with any dangerous action like that there is a duty of care.
“That could quite easily have happened to Brett Deledio. He could have damaged his neck.
“Any lifting or going beyond the horizontal has to be eliminated from the game completely.
“I think it should go straight to the tribunal.”
Deledio told Seven’s Gameday he “came to” seconds after the hit.
“The neck is a little bit stiff but I am still alive and breathing,’’ he said.
“Thank the big man upstairs for looking after me. I came to when the trainers had their hands on me telling me to stay down.
“I had the old man’s voice in my head saying. ‘Get up, you are not hurt’, so I wanted to get up pretty quick.
“I am pretty sure (I will be fine to play against North Melbourne), the neck is the only thing that is pretty stiff.”
North Melbourne player Shaun Atley’s sling tackle on the Western Bulldogs’ Lachlan Hunter on Saturday did not ram his head into the turf, so should see him dodge any penalty.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/courtenay-dempsey-should-be-sent-straight-to-the-tribunal-for-his-sling-tackle-on-brett-deledio-says-cameron-ling/story-fndv8gad-1227505022341
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Deledio escapes injury, but Don still in strife
AFL.com.au
August 31, 2015
RICHMOND vice-captain Brett Deledio has escaped injury and concussion in the aftermath of Courtenay Dempsey's dangerous tackle, but that is unlikely to help the Essendon defender when the Match Review Panel assesses his case on Monday.
Deledio was slammed into the MCG turf by his opponent on Saturday night, in a sling tackle that could see Dempsey sent straight to the Tribunal.
The Tigers' medical report to the MRP on Monday will clear Deledio of any injury after initial concerns he could suffer concussion.
But despite the positive medical assessment, it is highly unlikely the MRP would grade the impact of Dempsey's tackle down to medium impact, which would make a one-match ban possible.
If the MRP grades Dempsey's tackle as careless and high impact he could escape with a one-game ban, but an intentional conduct and high impact grading would see him sent to the Tribunal on Tuesday night.
The MRP also has the option of sending the case direct to the Tribunal if it doesn't believe the penalty reached by its grading system fits the offence.
Either way, Dempsey appears certain to miss the Bombers' round 23 clash against Collingwood on Sunday, potentially ending the unrestricted free agent's time at the Bombers.
Deledio told Channel Seven on Sunday he had a stiff neck after the tackle and he "came to when the trainers had their hands on me telling me to stay down".
"I am pretty sure [I will be fine to play against North Melbourne]," he said.
"The neck is the only thing that is pretty stiff."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-31/deledio-escapes-injury-but-dempsey-still-in-strife
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rest him ...
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Ch 10 reporting
That Dempsey has been referred straight to the AFL Tribunal
So he should
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Courtenay Dempsey, Essendon, has been charged with engaging in rough conduct against Brett Deledio, Richmond, during the third quarter of the Round 22 match between Essendon and Richmond, played at the MCG on Saturday August 29, 2015.
In summary, he has been referred directly to the Tribunal for its determination of the incident, and he cannot accept an early plea.
After viewing all available footage and receiving a medical report from the Richmond Football Club, the incident was classified as careless conduct with severe impact to the head. This offence was classified as a direct referral to the Tribunal. The player has no applicable record, but no early plea is available.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-31/match-review-panel-statement-round-22
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Sounds like Dempsey is likely to be delisted anyway.
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I am truly staggered that Courtney Dempsey has somehow found a way to twist a dangerous spear tackle into making a stand about racism because some peanut slags him off on social media. More and more AFL footballers are making excuses or trying to deflect from their poor behaviour - be it on field or off field.
Be a fkg man Courtney and face up to what you did without trying to deflect the attention...,
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I am truly staggered that Courtney Dempsey has somehow found a way to twist a dangerous spear tackle into making a stand about racism because some peanut slags him off on social media. More and more AFL footballers are making excuses or trying to deflect from their poor behaviour - be it on field or off field.
Be a fkg man Courtney and face up to what you did without trying to deflect the attention...,
Spot on. These were some of his comments:“People need to take responsibility for their actions,” "the pain of a comment like that lasts long after it has been deleted."
People need to take responsibility for their actions - spot on Courtney, so stop trying to deflect attention from the incident where you could have made Deledio a quadriplegic
The pain of a comment like that lasts long after it has been deleted - yeah Courtney, but how long does the pain caused by becoming a quadriplegic last for - longer than a racist comment I suspect
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How's is saying "I hope you die", or something to that effect racist?
Surely it's not
Booooooo
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Tribunal expert Nathan Schmook predicts a minimum penalty of four weeks.
Live tribunal link from 5:30pm - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-01/tribunal-live-courtenay-dempsey-faces-ban-for-sling-tackle
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How's is saying "I hope you die", or something to that effect racist?
Surely it's not
Booooooo
"I hope you die" were not the only words used.
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I am truly staggered that Courtney Dempsey has somehow found a way to twist a dangerous spear tackle into making a stand about racism because some peanut slags him off on social media. More and more AFL footballers are making excuses or trying to deflect from their poor behaviour - be it on field or off field.
Be a fkg man Courtney and face up to what you did without trying to deflect the attention...,
Seems they like chucking those spears
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How's is saying "I hope you die", or something to that effect racist?
Surely it's not
Booooooo
"I hope you die" were not the only words used.
I assumed that might if even the case
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4 weeks
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4 weeks
What it deserves. :clapping
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4 weeks
ESSENDON defender Courtenay Dempsey has been suspended for four matches for his driving tackle on Brett Deledio, despite pleas a large sanction could impact his ability to earn a contract at a new club.
The incident, which resulted in a direct referral to the Tribunal on Monday, was described by long-time Tribunal prosecutor Jeff Gleeson QC as the most dangerous tackle he had seen.
As a result, Dempsey became the first player to be found guilty of a 'severe' offence since Richmond forward Ty Vickery struck West Coast ruckman Dean Cox in 2014.
"There's no incident of which I'm aware of a player being driven head-first into the ground with such force," Gleeson told the Tribunal in prosecuting his case against the Bomber.
"They don't have such a pronounced risk of spinal injury as this one."
Read more at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-01/stuff-ban-puts-bomber-dempseys-career-at-crossroads-
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From the Hun last night, part of Dempsey's defence....
"Mifsud outlined the pain a “disgusting” racist slur delivered to Dempsey on social media following the tackle would cause, which could be investigated by Victoria Police.
“I can guarantee you his immediate and extended family would be feeling equally aggrieved,” Mifsud said.
“Aboriginal people are six times more likely to suicide over racism than non-Aboriginal people.”
As the racist slur was read out Dempsey stared at the floor with his arms folded."
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From the Hun last night, part of Dempsey's defence....
"Mifsud outlined the pain a “disgusting” racist slur delivered to Dempsey on social media following the tackle would cause, which could be investigated by Victoria Police.
“I can guarantee you his immediate and extended family would be feeling equally aggrieved,” Mifsud said.
“Aboriginal people are six times more likely to suicide over racism than non-Aboriginal people.”
As the racist slur was read out Dempsey stared at the floor with his arms folded."
Is this the Mifsud who works for the AFL? if it is I'm not sure it is appropriate for an AFL employee being part of the defence of any player facing the tribunal
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From the Hun last night, part of Dempsey's defence....
"Mifsud outlined the pain a “disgusting” racist slur delivered to Dempsey on social media following the tackle would cause, which could be investigated by Victoria Police.
“I can guarantee you his immediate and extended family would be feeling equally aggrieved,” Mifsud said.
“Aboriginal people are six times more likely to suicide over racism than non-Aboriginal people.”
As the racist slur was read out Dempsey stared at the floor with his arms folded."
Oh boy
Te defence is he got a rude tweet the following day?
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thats just grubby
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It's the equal, of say murder; Then arguing the police were a bit rude as they were arresting me .. moron. Hopefully no one top them-self :-[
"Mifsud
“Aboriginal people are six times more likely to suicide over racism than non-Aboriginal people.”
i would like to see a source
thats a very specific claim
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Is this the Mifsud who works for the AFL? if it is I'm not sure it is appropriate for an AFL employee being part of the defence of any player facing the tribunal
Sure is.
But what's a tweet sent the next day got to do with the spear tackle?
How can the AFL representative tie racism in as a defence.
Aren't you supposed to defend the charge.
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Is this the Mifsud who works for the AFL? if it is I'm not sure it is appropriate for an AFL employee being part of the defence of any player facing the tribunal
Sure is.
But what's a tweet sent the next day got to do with the spear tackle?
How can the AFL representative tie racism in as a defence.
Aren't you supposed to defend the charge.
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Great tackle TBH. It's not soccer
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Great tackle TBH. It's not soccer
:facepalm
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Great tackle TBH. Its not soccer
The tackle on Edwards against Geelong a few years back was better. Knocked him clean out. That's what kids come to watch.
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Exactly, that's what tackling is about. Edwards didn't put his head over the ball for 5 years after Milburn taught him how to be a man. Tackles are meant to hurt and if ya can put a bloke in a wheelchair, do it.
None of you would have survived back in my day. :lol
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Petey is right.
Having said that if anyop player does it to one of ours I'll wantto kill him
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john twit ralph
"those keybaord warriors that says dempsey should self harm, are the lowest of the low. I hope they burn in hell"
:lol :rollin
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'This won't end well': Dempsey's tackle had Deledio worried
AFL.com.au
September 3, 2015
RICHMOND vice-captain Brett Deledio can't remember much from the tackle that landed Essendon's Courtenay Dempsey a four-match ban, but he remembers thinking mid-air "this won't end well".
Deledio was lifted and slammed into the MCG turf by his opponent on Saturday night, in a driving tackle that left him briefly unconscious and with a stiff neck in the following days.
He regained consciousness as the Richmond trainers came to treat him on-ground and said he was "very grateful it didn't end up a lot worse".
"I remember being picked up (by Dempsey) and thinking this is not going to end well," Deledio told the club's website.
"The next thing I remember, Anthony, one of our trainers, had his hands on me saying, "don't move, stay still".
"I can't really remember a whole lot, but after the game he (Dempsey) definitely said sorry.
"My neck was a little bit stiff for a couple of days, but I trained today and I passed my concussion test with flying colours apparently."
Deledio said he was certain to face a depleted North Melbourne on Friday night in a clash the Tigers must win to secure a home final at the MCG.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-03/this-wont-end-well-deledios-midair-worry
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