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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 27, 2015, 10:16:33 PM
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Martin played all 23 games in his sixth season of AFL to take his career tally to 131.
He averaged 26.0 disposals per game and kicked 24 goals. From an overall competition perspective, Martin was ranked second in total kicks, seventh in uncontested possessions, ninth for inside-50s and 11th in total disposals. Among the Richmond playing group, Martin featured in the top five of 15 on-field categories 12 times. He was ranked No. 1 at the Club for kicks, total disposals and inside-50s, was second in uncontested possessions, third in contested possessions, rebound-50s and tackles, equal fourth in centre clearances and goals, and fifth in handballs, clearances and stoppages.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-23/2015-tiger-top-threes-stats-stars
Career stats:
Games Kicks KE% Hballs Disp. DE% Marks Tackles G.B Clear. In50 Re50 1%ers
2010 21 10.0 10.2 20.2 2.4 3.3 11.6
2011 22 14.1 8.0 22.1 3.5 3.3 33.14
2012 20 12.9 61.0 9.5 22.4 70.2 3.2 3.0 23.23 3.4 4.2 1.2 1.2
2013 23 16.6 7.6 24.2 4.8 2.7 23.32
2014 22 17.5 60.1 8.0 25.5 67.5 4.9 2.5 27.15 2.4 3.8 1.9 1.0
2015 23 17.4 8.6 26.0 4.5 3.9 24.13 3.2 4.3 2.3 0.9
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1970&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2010003
So how did we all rate Dusty's year?
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Stagnated. :shh
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Stagnated.
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An absolute BBUUUUMMMM. :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Gets better every year. Will be our best player by next season! Absolute stuffing JET!
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Just like his ink - gets bigger every year! ;D
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Trade for Yarran :whistle
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Took the next step
Built his tank, though still work to be done
Great year. Can turn a game with a 5-10 minute spell as a forward.
Deserves the JDM
:clapping
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Took the next step
Built his tank, though still work to be done
Great year. Can turn a game with a 5-10 minute spell as a forward.
Deserves the JDM
:clapping
For a one on one contest in the forward line he is one of the best in the AFL
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l rated Martin as a 7. He failed on the big stage when it mattered most. He has had 3 seasons to get it right like others around him. Players need to put the body on the line at times for Dusty to break free as like Cotchin needs. This is why we fail. Hard one week & not the next. This is why you need players such as Tuck & Jackson who wore the brunt of the bumps.
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disagree
martin and cotchin are performing at a high level
they are not the reason we fail
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disagree
martin and cotchin are performing at a high level
they are not the reason we fail
Did you even read what l wrote
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i did but they are still only 24 and 25
hard to carry a bunch of muppets all year
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l will explain it too you
Dusty & Cotchin are so sore after going in hard against a Hawthorn, That its hard for them to get up the next week because bruises don't heal in a week. If we had a strong body player like a Tuck or Jackson to protect them instead of people like Hunt who is gutless to protect them. We aint going to beat anyone after a solid win against a premiership team. Ever been in the rooms after a game & seen a player like Miles. Poor lad needs to be just about carried around he can hardly walk from been beaten to a polp. Same as Cotchin. We need a player like Hodge or Lewis who protect the Mitchell & Rioli
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This is why the cheats North rested so many players. To bring in players to go all out hard to injure our players cause they had nothing too lose & wanted to play us in Melbourne. We should have rested our players also & l bet they would have tanked to lose then. Its plain as day
Very smart by the Kangaroos club. They are laughing their guts out at how stupid our club fell for that. We would have been better playing Adelaide over there
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Forget the Cheat excuse and all he other pathetic rubbish that's coming from smoki RIchmond supporters. They're better than us. Always have been.
We're poo.
Grow up.
You sound ridiculous
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Forget the Cheat excuse and all he other pathetic rubbish that's coming from smoki RIchmond supporters. They're better than us. Always have been.
We're poo.
Grow up.
You sound ridiculous
Does it sound that stupid does it. Put your Reserves in & Bruise them all up & let them win so we can play them next week with our rested players who are MOSTLY DINOSAURS.
Get real mate that is pathetic
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its not cheating
its tactical and within the rules
richmond are stupid for not doing everything possibly in order to win a flag/final
do you think the side playing in the FA Cup finals plays all its stars the week before? unless absolutely required
someone might wanna tell dimma and pagan it aint 1975 anymore
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its not cheating
its tactical and within the rules
richmond are stupid for not doing everything possibly in order to win a flag/final
do you think the side playing in the FA Cup finals plays all its stars the week before? unless absolutely required
someone might wanna tell dimma and pagan it aint 1975 anymore
Your right its not cheating & within the rules but l bet it gets changed so it will never happen again. Your 100% right Premier League do the same several times each season before huge games.
What we fell for was they never wanted to win the game. They wanted to belt us up from the start. They had nothing to lose at all & had planned to play us the next week. They knew we were petrified of playing away from home at Adelaide away from our fans because we missed last year having a huge crowd. Watch the Replay of Round 23 & watch how many times their players only had eyes for our players. They beat us Black & Blue. Miles, Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Rewoldt, Grigg, Houli, Grimes, Rance, Edwards Vlaustin all copped it
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its not cheating
its tactical and within the rules
richmond are stupid for not doing everything possibly in order to win a flag/final
do you think the side playing in the FA Cup finals plays all its stars the week before? unless absolutely required
someone might wanna tell dimma and pagan it aint 1975 anymore
Your right its not cheating & within the rules but l bet it gets changed so it will never happen again. Your 100% right Premier League do the same several times each season before huge games.
What we fell for was they never wanted to win the game. They wanted to belt us up from the start. They had nothing to lose at all & had planned to play us the next week. They knew we were petrified of playing away from home at Adelaide away from our fans because we missed last year having a huge crowd. Watch the Replay of Round 23 & watch how many times their players only had eyes for our players. They beat us Black & Blue. Miles, Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Rewoldt, Grigg, Houli, Grimes, Rance, Edwards Vlaustin all copped it
how can they change the rules?
how can the AFL prove, what players have "general soreness" and who does not?
almost everyone is carrying a knock at the end of the year anyway
they cant do anything due to having the pants potentially sued off them
personally, i thought norf played their hand perfect. apart from losing the pre lim
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its not cheating
its tactical and within the rules
richmond are stupid for not doing everything possibly in order to win a flag/final
do you think the side playing in the FA Cup finals plays all its stars the week before? unless absolutely required
someone might wanna tell dimma and pagan it aint 1975 anymore
Your right its not cheating & within the rules but l bet it gets changed so it will never happen again. Your 100% right Premier League do the same several times each season before huge games.
What we fell for was they never wanted to win the game. They wanted to belt us up from the start. They had nothing to lose at all & had planned to play us the next week. They knew we were petrified of playing away from home at Adelaide away from our fans because we missed last year having a huge crowd. Watch the Replay of Round 23 & watch how many times their players only had eyes for our players. They beat us Black & Blue. Miles, Martin, Cotchin, Deledio, Rewoldt, Grigg, Houli, Grimes, Rance, Edwards Vlaustin all copped it
how can they change the rules?
how can the AFL prove, what players have "general soreness" and who does not?
almost everyone is carrying a knock at the end of the year anyway
they cant do anything due to having the pants potentially sued off them
personally, i thought norf played their hand perfect. apart from losing the pre lim
Who knows how they would stop it. But your right North played it perfect.
The reason why they lost on the weekend is because Dinosaurs don't cut it with the likes of Natinau. Priddis, & Co
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I thought his year was solid. Didn't have as much on the highlight reel in the forward line as last year but I thought his ability to set up plays and his involvement in our scoring chains was very good for us.
Good to see that his tackling has gone up also. My only criticism is that he seems to take the game on less this year and when he's <60m away from goal on the run he looks for a forward target which although is the team thing, I would prefer he take a shot because Dustin Martin 55m out on the run kicking for goal goes through the big sticks 99/100. Can't say the same thing about our set shot kicking within the 50m arc.
So yeah I gave him a 9 for pretty much playing all over the ground. Wish he would take the game on more though.
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7 maybe harsh but I think next year will be his year just have this feeling he will be the fittest his every been as long as there is no vegas trip with dane.... :banghead :banghead
but if we can get a couple of runners into our side free him up a bit well cause more damage then ever
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We won't see dusty get any better with the current list of pretenders.
It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by quail.
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Second best player behind Rance this season imo
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We won't see dusty get any better with the current list of pretenders.
It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by quail.
Average players need good players around them to play well. Good players need good players around them to play great. Great players only need a team to be great.
I see dusty as a future great. Will get better in years to come.
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Great players, need lesser teammates to do the job at a satisfactory level
Or, at least as travis boak says follow, when the leaders are inspiring
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Good season. Very consistent.
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Stagnated on greatness! Seriously consistent this year. With Rance, our best.
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Yep I gave him a 9. Freak of the team, need him doing the same next year but also have his mates lifting.
Would also be looking to sew his contract up for the rest of his career as soon as we can. Can't afford to lose him to another club.
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Yep I gave him a 9. Freak of the team, need him doing the same next year but also have his mates lifting.
Would also be looking to sew his contract up for the rest of his career as soon as we can. Can't afford to lose him to another club.
Agreed. I think he's locked in till the end of '17 (hoping we've won flag by then ;D ;D), but he'll be 26 and a F.A then. Could be a 4-5 year contract to see him out!
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7 because I know he can be a 9/10
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
Me thinks it was a case of
:sarcasm2
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
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Geez 2 years ago he was in a hard hat up north, now he is the go to man.
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
I think you are giving yourself way to much credit claw. You made a comment that I disagreed with totally. That's all. No nose out of joint. If you care to look at the clubs website, there is an article that talks about Vlastuins improvement. So I'm not the only person that thinks your comments were off the mark.
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why do we have to wade through this constant repeating what has already been said?
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why do we have to wade through this constant repeating what has already been said?
Don't know
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
I think you are giving yourself way to much credit claw. You made a comment that I disagreed with totally. That's all. No nose out of joint. If you care to look at the clubs website, there is an article that talks about Vlastuins improvement. So I'm not the only person that thinks your comments were off the mark.
One can cares
And still think the official site. Is full. Of poo
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
I think you are giving yourself way to much credit claw. You made a comment that I disagreed with totally. That's all. No nose out of joint. If you care to look at the clubs website, there is an article that talks about Vlastuins improvement. So I'm not the only person that thinks your comments were off the mark.
One can cares
And still think the official site. Is full. Of poo
Hmmmmmm
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
I think you are giving yourself way to much credit claw. You made a comment that I disagreed with totally. That's all. No nose out of joint. If you care to look at the clubs website, there is an article that talks about Vlastuins improvement. So I'm not the only person that thinks your comments were off the mark.
Why shouldnt i give myself credit no one around here will thats for sure.
I made a comment that is backed up by others, my eyes which dont get things wrong too often, and statistically in almost every area. I keep on saying it i trust my eyes before anyone at the club.
You actually read that crap that they put out and put credence to it wow.
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Stagnated. :shh
FFS 21 votes in the brownlow coming in at 7th. How can you possibly think he's stagnated? :wallywink
You really don't follow the stream of conversations on other threads do you......
It was a send up of claws comments on Vlastuin. :banghead
Oh, so you were baiting/trolling/sniping?
Just for you darling! :lol
LOL YOU werent baiting trolling maybe sniping but mainly you had your nose pout of joint.
On Martin, small improvement on the year before. I can honestly say that for every year bar one. It has been a steady and constant upward trend. He still can be a fair bit better defensively imo.
I think you are giving yourself way to much credit claw. You made a comment that I disagreed with totally. That's all. No nose out of joint. If you care to look at the clubs website, there is an article that talks about Vlastuins improvement. So I'm not the only person that thinks your comments were off the mark.
Why shouldnt i give myself credit no one around here will thats for sure.
I made a comment that is backed up by others, my eyes which dont get things wrong too often, and statistically in almost every area. I keep on saying it i trust my eyes before anyone at the club.
You actually read that crap that they put out and put credence to it wow.
The stuff put out backed up what my eyes saw. I saw that Vlastuin had become our second best defender behind Rance. This wasn't the case 2 years ago or even last year. His efficiency by hand or foot has increased to around 83% which is very high. So whilst his actual disposal numbers haven't changed, his effect has improved. His number of intercept marks in the backline have also gone up. These are things that I have seen with my own eys and are backed up with stats too.
I really don't care if you think you and a couple of others are right. I am very confident that my opinion is the right one and NO, I don't think the club is going that well on field as there are many holes in the list. However, Vlastuin is one of the things that is positive about our side. He is courageous and sure with the ball in hand and he has only played 3 years. I see him as a future captain as he leads by example and never takes a backward step on the field. He would be inspirational to play for in that regard.
Stagnation is definitely not the word that has described his year. But carry on with your critique as funnily enough I agree with you on many of your points. Just not this one!
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Intercept *
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FWIW I think Grimes is better than Flossy.
Flossy is just serviceable for mine.
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Yeah this is the footy section Willy, you'll find the jokes thread is in the General Discussion section.
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:lol
He is joking relax
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FWIW I think Grimes is better than Flossy.
Flossy is just serviceable for mine.
like asking which of your children you prefer
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:gobdrop
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Gave Dusty an 8.
If he plays a part in Bennell's arrival, it becomes a 9.
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Yeah this is the footy section Willy, you'll find the jokes thread is in the General Discussion section.
OMG! To think someone doesn't think Vlastuin is Voss mk2 just yet!! :o
Just for starters, Grimes played better in the elim. Personally, I put a lot of weight in finals performances. Cotch and Lids have also dropped in my estimation.
Grimes is quicker, taller (more versatile). Unlike Vlas, he's been hampered by injuries but every time he gets a decent run at it he becomes very valuable.
Vlas is harder, better reader of the play, I'll concede. He shows good signs, yes, but he ain't a superstar yet. He's not even star, no matter how much expectation you lump on him.
Maybe to say Grimes is "better" was a stretch, but I think it's a close call, all things considered.
You can save your snide remarks for now I reckon, fellas. Bring em back in a few years when your image of Vlas better reflects reality.
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:gobdrop
:gobdrop :gobdrop
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Yeah this is the footy section Willy, you'll find the jokes thread is in the General Discussion section.
OMG! To think someone doesn't think Vlastuin is Voss mk2 just yet!! :o
Just for starters, Grimes played better in the elim. Personally, I put a lot of weight in finals performances. Cotch and Lids have also dropped in my estimation.
Grimes is quicker, taller (more versatile). Unlike Vlas, he's been hampered by injuries but every time he gets a decent run at it he becomes very valuable.
Vlas is harder, better reader of the play, I'll concede. He shows good signs, yes, but he ain't a superstar yet. He's not even star, no matter how much expectation you lump on him.
Maybe to say Grimes is "better" was a stretch, but I think it's a close call, all things considered.
You can save your snide remarks for now I reckon, fellas. Bring em back in a few years when your image of Vlas better reflects reality.
I agree on Grimes being a better player at the moment, but in a few years I reckon Vlas will better reflect peoples opinions of him not the other way around
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I'll change my score to a ten if Dusty gets Bennell across the line.
:thumbsup
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Same same
And then zero if the move backfires spectacularly next season
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Why shouldnt i give myself credit no one around here will thats for sure.
I made a comment that is backed up by others, my eyes which dont get things wrong too often, and statistically in almost every area. I keep on saying it i trust my eyes before anyone at the club.
You actually read that crap that they put out and put credence to it wow.
The stuff put out backed up what my eyes saw. I saw that Vlastuin had become our second best defender behind Rance. This wasn't the case 2 years ago or even last year. His efficiency by hand or foot has increased to around 83% which is very high. So whilst his actual disposal numbers haven't changed, his effect has improved. His number of intercept marks in the backline have also gone up. These are things that I have seen with my own eys and are backed up with stats too.
I really don't care if you think you and a couple of others are right. I am very confident that my opinion is the right one and NO, I don't think the club is going that well on field as there are many holes in the list. However, Vlastuin is one of the things that is positive about our side. He is courageous and sure with the ball in hand and he has only played 3 years. I see him as a future captain as he leads by example and never takes a backward step on the field. He would be inspirational to play for in that regard.
Stagnation is definitely not the word that has described his year. But carry on with your critique as funnily enough I agree with you on many of your points. Just not this one!
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Very well said. Someone know what they are talking about & watches the game. Stats don't always show how dominate a player can be
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Grimes would be no worse, than third best
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Grimes would be no worse, than third best
Grimes had a good year. Lad has guts. His has impact & don't mind a biff or two.
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if we could grow the midfield depth somehow, to leave martin in the forward line
hed be an animal
Grimes would be no worse, than third best
Grimes had a good year. Lad has guts. His has impact & don't mind a biff or two.
Also defends well