One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 15, 2015, 06:27:39 PM
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In further coaching news from Tigerland, former Melbourne player Ryan Ferguson will be stepping up to a full-time role as a development coach with the Club, having been involved in a part-time capacity over the past year.
Ferguson, also a qualified teacher, will continue to work alongside Richmond’s backline coach Ben Rutten in developing the Tigers’ defenders.
He replaces Max Bailey, who spent two years as a development coach with Richmond, after playing in Hawthorn’s 2013 premiership side.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-10-15/mcrae-to-coach-tigers-vfl-team
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Really bringing in the big guns now.... :gotigers
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What's with the teacher love at RFC? :shh
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isnt that what a coach (particularly a development coach) actually is?
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So where did Max Bailey go? Get the ass?
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So where did Max Bailey go? Get the ass?
His choice
they said at the B&F he is heading off to trabel overseas for at least 12 months but more likely 2 years
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So where did Max Bailey go? Get the ass?
His choice
they said at the B&F he is heading off to trabel overseas for at least 12 months but more likely 2 years
WP you are pretty up to date with the clubs finances.. How much less do we spend on the footy department compared to the rest of the competition? Seems like a shoestring budget to be honest.
Or is just good management? i think we are a powerhouse club, all the money in the world but perhaps that is the wrong perception. We are coming from a long way back i guess.
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So where did Max Bailey go? Get the ass?
His choice
they said at the B&F he is heading off to trabel overseas for at least 12 months but more likely 2 years
WP you are pretty up to date with the clubs finances.. How much less do we spend on the footy department compared to the rest of the competition? Seems like a shoestring budget to be honest.
Or is just good management? i think we are a powerhouse club, all the money in the world but perhaps that is the wrong perception. We are coming from a long way back i guess.
The Club increased footy dept spent in 2014 by $1.9 mil. Not sure what they've done this year
I believe we are middle of the table compared to the Pies, Hawks and Bombers but at the high end of that mid table. We certainly aren't the lowest or inthe bottoms quarter
However, now that there is supposed to be some sort of cap on Footy dept spend that results in some sort of "tax" if you go over then I think things will even up more.
Certainly clubs can spend what they like but if they go over the cap then they have to pay a tax that is supposed to get distributed to the lesser spending clubs.
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who exactly are we spending money on WP, im curious.
we arent even in the top echelon of clubs on spend yet you have to ask where is this money going to? These assistant coaches cant demand much (choco aside) so im just interested how they actually spend it because IMo its not invested in quality off field personnel.
dimwit it seems is afraid of competition in the coaches box.
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who exactly are we spending money on WP, im curious.
we arent even in the top echelon of clubs on spend yet you have to ask where is this money going to? These assistant coaches cant demand much (choco aside) so im just interested how they actually spend it because IMo its not invested in quality off field personnel.
dimwit it seems is afraid of competition in the coaches box.
the mind boggles
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Bailey and McQualter had been playing football for Rosedale down this way, not sure of the connection, must be something to do with McQualter/Traralgon.
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who exactly are we spending money on WP, im curious.
Footy Department spend isn't just about what coaches get paid covers alot more than that Angus. I have no idea who gets what. The Club's financial don't go into that detail. And before you start potting them for that, they disclose exactly what they are required to under the Corps law so they aren't hiding anything.
But it emcompasses all things within the Footy Dept like Coaches, support staff (eg Doctors, physio), recruiting, list managment, developments, forward scouting, Footy Dept IT, the VFL program, fitness staff etc
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Good riddance Bailey. Not sure how closely anyone has been watching but have our rucks improved at all since he was here. Pretty cruisy job. Development coach for 1 guy (Maric who is 30) whilst the other is injured.
Absolute cruizy cruizy job
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GET MONKEY and pee these amaeteurs off
Ceglar
Hale
McEvoy
Monkey = Gun
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Good riddance Bailey. Not sure how closely anyone has been watching but have our rucks improved at all since he was here. Pretty cruisy job. Development coach for 1 guy (Maric who is 30) whilst the other is injured.
Absolute cruizy cruizy job
Whack him for the job he was employed to do not what you think he did
He was not the club ruck coach.
His role was development, you know the kids, the VFL not Maric
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Gee I read some rubbish. well said WP. Just because Bailey is tall doesn't mean he was ruck coach :lol
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Good riddance Bailey. Not sure how closely anyone has been watching but have our rucks improved at all since he was here. Pretty cruisy job. Development coach for 1 guy (Maric who is 30) whilst the other is injured.
Absolute cruizy cruizy job
Whack him for the job he was employed to do not what you think he did
He was not the club ruck coach.
His role was development, you know the kids, the VFL not Maric
Oh those ruck kids are coming on ::)
#kpi'sdown
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What ruck kids? Again, he wasn't ruck coach.
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Griffith
McBean
Elton
Think none of them had played many minutes in the ruck, but at Richmond VFL the last year or two they have all spent more time in the ruck.
Griffith particularly has gone from playing virtually all his footy at CHB or CHF to being the main ruck change with Maric when he plays seniors.
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Griffith
McBean
Elton
Think none of them had played many minutes in the ruck, but at Richmond VFL the last year or two they have all spent more time in the ruck.
Griffith particularly has gone from playing virtually all his footy at CHB or CHF to being the main ruck change with Maric when he plays seniors.
No.
Look comrade, show us the ruck kids kpi's or all this jibber means nothing.
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Do we have a ruck coach?
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Lade?
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Lade?
Technically yes he is our mid field stoppages coach
Bailey's role had very little to do with ruck work coaching
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According to the club site lade looks after both ruck and mid
We are that cash strapped we can't even afford one each.
Also says bailey was too, albeit in development.
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According to the club site lade looks after both ruck and mid
We are that cash strapped we can't even afford one each.
Also says bailey was too, albeit in development.
I'll ask you a question Angus because I'm interested
Where do you think we should spend more money?
Remembering it costs $600-800k a year to field a VFL side so should we increase spend there or beef up recruiting, development or just employee more coaches?
Don't just say we should sack this person, sack that person, the question is about which area needs the biggest boost to take up the next step.
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I've said it before many times over the last few yrs, you know this
Get rid of williams the dud one. How in gods name does this bloke still have a job in our forward line.
In: Monkhurst
Out: Francis, in Rendell
Out: Williams in Micky O or Ratts.
Out : Hartley in anyone that has a clue
You want to be the best start getting the best coaches. His had a great run williams
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lmao at sooking because the same bloke coaches ruck and stoppage work.
stuff me sideways
:lol
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Pretty shrewd pick up by the tiges :shh Went allright at Old Trafford just quietly :clapping
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Following in the Richmond trend of the last three seasons under Hardwick, most assistants are bargin basement selections. Mcrae being the exception.
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Lade?
Makes sense. What's the point of having a coach to just coach two-three ruckman
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makes more sense than having the same bloke coaching the ruckman and the midfielders together.
Thats just plain crazy, what do they have to do with each other???
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makes more sense than having the same bloke coaching the ruckman and the midfielders together.
Thats just plain crazy, what do they have to do with each other???
His title is Stoppage and Midfield coach - he is not the ruck coach (not at least by title).
So he helps directs both rucks and mids on where to stand and palm the ball and where to run for hit outs.
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I've said it before many times over the last few yrs, you know this
Get rid of williams the dud one. How in gods name does this bloke still have a job in our forward line.
In: Monkhurst
Out: Francis, in Rendell
Out: Williams in Micky O or Ratts.
Out : Hartley in anyone that has a clue
You want to be the best start getting the best coaches. His had a great run williams
I know you have but you still haven't answered my actual question.
All you've done is again say who'd you'd sack and who you'd like to replace them with.
That's not what I want to know
What I want to know is where you want then to spend more money, which area.
You can replace people but surely have to make sure the right program is in place and part of that involves how you fund it. If the people haven't got the resources how can you expect them to do their job properly?
Personally, I want them to invest more into VFL program with the focus of making the VFL list stronger because and I've said this many times will benefit our young players coming through by the team more competitive.
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Personally, I want them to invest more into VFL program with the focus of making the VFL list stronger because and I've said this many times will benefit our young players coming through by the team more competitive.
It couldn't be at the expense of AFL listed players though.
Its always going to be tougher to get good VFL players to a club that's always going to choose their AFL talent ahead of you and compromise wins for development.
Still, the dogs did it last year and plenty of AFL teams performed very well this season in the VFL.
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Personally, I want them to invest more into VFL program with the focus of making the VFL list stronger because and I've said this many times will benefit our young players coming through by the team more competitive.
It couldn't be at the expense of AFL listed players though.
Its always going to be tougher to get good VFL players to a club that's always going to choose their AFL talent ahead of you and compromise wins for development.
Still, the dogs did it last year and plenty of AFL teams performed very well this season in the VFL.
You've missed my point. All AFL stand alone VFL are required to have A VFL list. Out VFL listed players are poor, we don't sing VFL standard players and IMHO that's one of the reasons we are so non competitive. We appear to that part of he VFL program on the cheap
Our AFL players not playing at aFL level will always play ahead of the VFL list guys but each week you are going to have / need VFL players in the side. We need decent VFL players out there but we don't have that.
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You've missed my point. All AFL stand alone VFL are required to have A VFL list. Out VFL listed players are poor, we don't sing VFL standard players and IMHO that's one of the reasons we are so non competitive. We appear to that part of he VFL program on the cheap
Our AFL players not playing at aFL level will always play ahead of the VFL list guys but each week you are going to have / need VFL players in the side. We need decent VFL players out there but we don't have that.
Its always going to be tougher to get good VFL players to a club that's always going to choose their AFL talent ahead of you and compromise wins for development.
I feel that addressed your point quite clearly?
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Was max Bailey development coach? Well there you farkin go aye!