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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WA Tiger on April 09, 2016, 04:52:18 PM
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
Fire away.......does it matter.... :rollin :rollin
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Chaplin
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
B Ellis
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Hardwick
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Out: Hardwick
In: Ratten
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:cheers
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Can't keep playing Menadue for the sake of playing him
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Can't keep playing Menadue for the sake of playing him
I disagree, has more of a crack than half the side! Yes he made some skill errors today but at least he's getting in amongst it. Only way to learn is to keep him in the side.
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Probably the only player who tries to straighten up our attack. Similar style to Lids but unfortunately his inexperience is going to cost us from time to time.
Can't keep playing Menadue for the sake of playing him
I disagree, has more of a crack than half the side! Yes he made some skill errors today but at least he's getting in amongst it. Only way to learn is to keep him in the side.
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Chaplin
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
B Ellis
I would say all those play next week
The problem is guys like C Ellis , Vlaustin , Rance , Miles playing poorly
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Can't keep playing Menadue for the sake of playing him
Agree
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Chaplin
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
B Ellis
I would say all those play next week
The problem is guys like C Ellis , Vlaustin , Rance , Miles playing poorly
Rance stopped it from being 100p lose
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Posted here so a important thread is not on page 2.
Also to say people don't have lists of, Oh wait.
Changes.
C. Ellis need some time to get some confidence. Out
Chaplin gave us little. Out.
Hampson played one of his better games but still. Out
There were many others that didn't go well and I would understand if we're dropped but these are the first three for me.
I will wait on reports from the 2,s as to who should replace them.
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It's OK apparently we are only experimenting with our players in different positions now that the season has started. Other clubs do that dont they?
I find this ludicrous
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It's OK apparently we are only experimenting with our players in different positions now that the season has started. Other clubs do that dont they?
I find this ludicrous
Yes I do find this strange too. In the last three years (at least)we have tried this at the start of each season, maybe they will learn it doesn't work.
Chaplin forward this year.
Morris forward last year.
Dusty half back year before
There would be more but these are the standout ones I can think off
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SNIP
Suggest people stick to the topic
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The problem is that the hierarchy went with players in 2015 who are never going to get us to a top four position and I would have thought this was obvious. Players like Hunt, Batchelor, Griffith, Morris etc will never be in a good side. So, we have to start again. I thought we actually got our hands on the ball well on Saturday but like other times just turned it over. Pathetically bad kicks and handballs and for example Edwards was atrocious when it was important. Hardly a leader. We need Delidio's purity! Jack missing that goal. But, although I have always considered Hampson to be weak he played pretty well this week and even took a few marks. Can't kick yet and needs more defence but he was not the worst. Play the kids like Ellis who will get better. We need some more backline speed but I can't see why Dumma makes them play slowly. Cotchin, Rance, Houli (who works his arse off) were I thought good. Astbury fair but needs time as he has not played much for years. Rioli will be something. Chaplin? Not for the future but we have drafted bad big men for years. So out? Chaplin but for who? Lennon is worthy keeping in I think as he needs to relearn the pace of this game. We lost 8-12 goals to direct goal kicking stuff ups so we were competitive believe it or not.
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The problem is that the hierarchy went with players in 2015 who are never going to get us to a top four position and I would have thought this was obvious. Players like Hunt, Batchelor, Griffith, Morris etc will never be in a good side. So, we have to start again. I thought we actually got our hands on the ball well on Saturday but like other times just turned it over. Pathetically bad kicks and handballs and for example Edwards was atrocious when it was important. Hardly a leader. We need Delidio's purity! Jack missing that goal. But, although I have always considered Hampson to be weak he played pretty well this week and even took a few marks. Can't kick yet and needs more defence but he was not the worst. Play the kids like Ellis who will get better. We need some more backline speed but I can't see why Dumma makes them play slowly. Cotchin, Rance, Houli (who works his arse off) were I thought good. Astbury fair but needs time as he has not played much for years. Rioli will be something. Chaplin? Not for the future but we have drafted bad big men for years. So out? Chaplin but for who? Lennon is worthy keeping in I think as he needs to relearn the pace of this game. We lost 8-12 goals to direct goal kicking stuff ups so we were competitive believe it or not.
All of this is pretty much on the money. We've overachieved the last few years with a mediocre list based of a game style that's becoming obsolete. We're being found out at the moment and seem to be trying to change our game plan on the fly.
People need to look at the 22 on paper who played yesterday and realise that's certainly not a top 4 team and it's very questionable whether it's a top 8 team.
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Chaplin
Grigg
Houli
Hampson
B Ellis
I would say all those play next week
The problem is guys like C Ellis , Vlaustin , Rance , Miles playing poorly
Agree with this
Miles & Vlaustin are the 2 that stand out - both horribly out of form
Both making poor decisions which is leading to crap disposal
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In this rebuild year where results don't matter expect a few more kids to be given games
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Rance's "poor" games have still been better than most of the side's....
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would experiment playing Lennon down back and dropping Vlaustin
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Outs .C.Ellis .
In Maric
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would experiment playing Lennon down back and dropping Vlaustin
I don't think he is manic enough to be a defender.
He is a natural forward IMO. Not quick but knows where and more importantly when to lead. It's a shame our game plans gives opposition sides time to get players to fill the holes. Isolation is the most important thing for a forward.
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Maric to come in if fit. I'd consider dropping B.Ellis actually and hopefully Hampson and Maric can double team Nic Nat? Unless Hampson is contractually only allowed to play one decent game for us a year?
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Rance's "poor" games have still been better than most of the side's....
Except when he cost us the game last week
Would experiment playing Lennon down back
You mean where he played on yesterday?
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Rance's "poor" games have still been better than most of the side's....
Except when he cost us the game last week
Really? Moreso than Houli's super-squib non-smother, Hampsud's airswing & run under the ball, Lloyd standing like a statue as Grundy jogged into position, Vickery passing to Lloyd, Vlastuin's deliberate out of bounds or Hunt just being Hunt?
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Rance's "poor" games have still been better than most of the side's....
Except when he cost us the game last week
Really? Moreso than Houli's super-squib non-smother, Hampsud's airswing & run under the ball, Lloyd standing like a statue as Grundy jogged into position, Vickery passing to Lloyd, Vlastuin's deliberate out of bounds or Hunt just being Hunt?
Yeah maybe I'm being harsh but it was simply pathetic. Stupid decision and awful execution. Vlas was close but I'm giving him benefit of the doubt because of the new interpretation. Just feel the Rance one was inexcusable and hurt us the most at the worst time.
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
Would only bring in George from that lot, his defensive pressure is excellent which compensates to a degree for is average disposal
McBean doesn't deserve a chance based on his "efforts" yesterday.
Broad was OK but his disposal is a real worry. But based on that and how the AFL blokes went on Saturday Broad's probably a lock ;D
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
Would only bring in George from that lot, his defensive pressure is excellent which compensates to a degree for is average disposal
McBean doesn't deserve a chance based on his "efforts" yesterday.
Broad was OK but his disposal is a real worry. But based on that and how the AFL blokes went on Saturday Broad's probably a lock ;D
Is his disposal a worry or just the way he looks when he's kicking? He looks gumby but from what little I have seen he hits targets much more often than not
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
Would only bring in George from that lot, his defensive pressure is excellent which compensates to a degree for is average disposal
McBean doesn't deserve a chance based on his "efforts" yesterday.
Broad was OK but his disposal is a real worry. But based on that and how the AFL blokes went on Saturday Broad's probably a lock ;D
Is his disposal a worry or just the way he looks when he's kicking? He looks gumby but from what little I have seen he hits targets much more often than not
In game his technique breaks down thus he misses more than he hits. He has strengths but kicking is not one of them ATM.
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The West Coast crowd won't have forgotten Vickery for his hit on Cox and will boo him every time he goes near the ball..... if he handles the reaction the same way he did that night we'll basically be a man down for the match...well two men down if Hamspud plays....
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Hampson playing
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Hampson playing
He needs to. Against Ivan last year NicNat was BOG.......
He gave them a dream run.
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Hampson + ankle injury = loooooong night
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
Would only bring in George from that lot, his defensive pressure is excellent which compensates to a degree for is average disposal
McBean doesn't deserve a chance based on his "efforts" yesterday.
Broad was OK but his disposal is a real worry. But based on that and how the AFL blokes went on Saturday Broad's probably a lock ;D
Is McBean up to AFL standard? Putting aside his defensive flaws does he have the requisite skill to play AFL football?
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If we are taking a step back then McBean should be given a dozen or so games.
What has more value come trade time McBean with a dozen games experience in the AFL
or another season at VFL?
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Ins- Broad, Castagna, McBean,
Outs- Houli, B. Ellis, Grigg,
-play Lennon out of the square FFS
Would like to see all of the ins you suggested play.
Would only bring in George from that lot, his defensive pressure is excellent which compensates to a degree for is average disposal
McBean doesn't deserve a chance based on his "efforts" yesterday.
Broad was OK but his disposal is a real worry. But based on that and how the AFL blokes went on Saturday Broad's probably a lock ;D
Is McBean up to AFL standard? Putting aside his defensive flaws does he have the requisite skill to play AFL football?
Seriously though, Plugger couldn't get a kick in our forwardline the way the footy comes in. And I'm sure it's no better in the twos.
If we are talking second efforts, Griffiths should never get a game ever again as he is putrid.
And lastly it took Dimma an eternity to play Miles when he was killing it week in week out in the twos. What was Dimma's knock on him at the time??
And he continues to play Houli, Ellis and Grigg so IMO I'm not taking his opinion of players as gospel.
Not to mention the game plan he is running with.... :help
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Reckon they might drop Vlaustin this week
Precedent set after Round 1 , get 5 or less possessions , you don't get a game the following week
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Reckon they might drop Vlaustin this week
Precedent set after Round 1 , get 5 or less possessions , you don't get a game the following week
Is that why Cotchin gets all those "give it offs". ?
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Reckon they might drop Vlaustin this week
Precedent set after Round 1 , get 5 or less possessions , you don't get a game the following week
I rate Vlastuin but if he were to be dropped this week, fair enough. DH needs to get tougher with his players.
Let's be honest it's not the end of the world but if it gives a player the kick up the ass he needs then it's a vital tool.
Same with dragging players off the field if they have done something weak or lazy during the game. I know it doesn't always benefit the side at that moment but it may do long term.
Some of the simple coaching tools have been lost with the game speeding up.
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Reckon they might drop Vlaustin this week
Precedent set after Round 1 , get 5 or less possessions , you don't get a game the following week
I don't know about dropping him but a positional change wouldn't hurt him.
I'd be throwing him through the midfield in the Townsend roll, I'm not sure if it would help him or not but he certainly doesn't look right playing in the back pocket.
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The Barometer - Round 4
Herald-Sun
11 April 2016
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Mercifully, there were no fresh injuries in the demoralising loss to Adelaide. Shaun Hampson seems unlikely to be sacrificed for Ivan Maric this week and was solid against the Crows anyway. Nick Vlastuin (five disposals) wasn’t and may be nervous this week.
ON THE CUSP: Maric was forecast to play 80 minutes in the VFL yesterday in his return from a back injury and got through well. Hardwick raised the prospect of playing both Maric and Hampson against the Eagles, but surely that won’t happen with Maric’s VFL comeback only five days before that AFL game. Brett Deledio could still be several weeks away with a lingering quad injury, but did kick the “big ball” at training on Saturday morning. Dylan Grimes (hamstring tendon) is expected to miss one more week. Adam Marcon and Andrew Moore were again good in the VFL yesterday, as was banished midfielder Taylor Hunt, who responded well to his demotion. It was a different story for Ben Griffiths, who gave away two early free kicks and left the field with an ankle injury. Omitted onballer Jacob Townsend is an option to return, but wasn’t risked in the VFL due to a series of corks in the same spot on his leg.
SAM EDMUND’S FORECAST: Boy oh boy. It’s Groundhog Day, with the Tigers besieged for the third consecutive year early in the season. Now, the most daunting road trip in footy awaits — West Coast at Subiaco. Lose and the Tigers slump to 1-3. But they will take confidence from the fact they have rolled the Eagles in the sides’ last two meetings in Perth. Certainly the coach is confident, declaring yesterday the Tigers will still make the eight. For now, they face having to right the ship without Deledio, Maric, Grimes, Chris Yarran and Reece Conca.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-form/the-barometer-afl-injury-list-selection-analysis-ahead-of-round-4/news-story/7d0fb8634d897947fdb0778c8736bbe9
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This
or now, they face having to right the ship without Deledio, Maric, Grimes, Chris Yarran and Reece Conca.
Yarran hasn't even played with the club and Conca is out Injured every season and then comes back to run around like a Mong for,a,few games.
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Tigers ruckman Ivan Maric is expected to return after missing the first month of the season battling a back complaint.
Maric played in the VFL last week and would come in handy against athletic Eagles big man Nic Naitanui.
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/brett-deledio-hopes-to-ramp-up-training-will-miss-richmonds-clash-with-west-coast/news-story/632e66d40da54b8d1c24cf74d1423ac3)
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Tigers ruckman Ivan Maric is expected to return after missing the first month of the season battling a back complaint.
Maric played in the VFL last week and would come in handy against athletic Eagles big man Nic Naitanui.
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/brett-deledio-hopes-to-ramp-up-training-will-miss-richmonds-clash-with-west-coast/news-story/632e66d40da54b8d1c24cf74d1423ac3)
He will be destroyed by Nic Nat. Just like last year. Can't anyone remember at the club? :banghead
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In the Mix: Round 4
Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
12 April 2016
RICHMOND
The Tigers have strong-bodied midfielders Adam Marcon (24 disposals and eight clearances) and Andrew Moore (24 and 15 tackles) performing at VFL level if they opt for mature bodies against West Coast this week. The hurdle for that pair, however, would be overcoming a five-day break before Friday night's match.
The short break will likely keep ruckman Ivan Maric out of the senior team for one more week after he returned from a back injury through the VFL at the weekend.
Rookie Jason Castagna deserves an opportunity at AFL level more than any of the Tigers' untried players and was arguably the Tigers' best in the VFL. He was thrown on-ball against Williamstown on Sunday and asked to provide pressure with a view to playing a similar role at AFL level. He finished with nine tackles and seven clearances, kicking a classy goal on the run from 45m.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-12/in-the-mix-round-four
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Marcon in the mix for selection now eh? Just like he said Chol was the other week.....impeccable knowledge & thorough research on display from this Schmook schmuck once again...
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Marcon in the mix for selection now eh? Just like he said Chol was the other week.....impeccable knowledge & thorough research on display from this Schmook schmuck once again...
He loves reading the OER forum. :clapping
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These two in;
Adam Marcon
24 disposals, 16 contested possessions, eight clearances
Adam continued his good form at this level. He led the team in clearances with eight, just driving out of contests. He’s really important for us and he’s ready for AFL opportunity when it presents.
Andrew Moore
24 disposals, 15 tackles, 16 contested possessions, seven clearances
Andrew played his best game for the club with 24 disposals, 15 tackles and seven clearances and also the way he went about it. He played as that big-bodied, strong midfielder and was important to us winning clearances on the day. It was a really good performance from him.
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Moore's a hack and Marcon's still on the rookie list.
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Moore's a hack and Marcon's still on the rookie list.
Moore will fit right in then. Upgrade Marcon for Dedelio or Yarran..
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TBH I would give the Bean Bag some specific instructions, say you've got 8 games in a row and your KPI's will be monitored throughout.
Then either keep or discard. No good keeping him if we don't play him.
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8 games in a row eh? Meanwhile Griffiths has been given 7 seasons to meet his "KPI's"......
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lol the Richmond way.
rewarding mediocrity and those who play, look and act like a girl.
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8 games in a row eh? Meanwhile Griffiths has been given 7 seasons to meet his "KPI's"......
Not that I think it's fully justified but Griffiths has had a lean period of a lot of injuries when he first started
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Moore's a hack and Marcon's still on the rookie list.
Moore will fit right in then. Upgrade Marcon for Dedelio or Yarran..
seriously ?, you obviously know little of the LTI list rules, MINIMUM 8 WEEKS
Lids will be back in what 2-3 & Yazz is say 6-7
Dont make sense does it , and thats not even considering the type of players they are
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Confirmed - no Ivan again this week.
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Confirmed - no Ivan again this week.
Bloody hell
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Can't take players in if they're not fit.
? Is why are they in such a bad way after the off season.
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Moore should be in the side this week, he is exactly what is missing....but I'll bet a month's absence that Hunt is instead. Oh well, he does fit the "one step backwards" mantra....or was that 2 steps....or 1/2 a step ::)
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Moore should be in the side this week, he is exactly what is missing....but I'll bet a month's absence that Hunt is instead. Oh well, he does fit the one step backwards mantra ::)
I'll take you up on that :thumbsup.
No but I don't think he'll bring either of them actually. Think he might leave the team unchanged
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Moore should be in the side this week, he is exactly what is missing....but I'll bet a month's absence that Hunt is instead. Oh well, he does fit the one step backwards mantra ::)
I'll take you up on that :thumbsup.
No but I don't think he'll bring either of them actually. Think he might leave the team unchanged
Moore and Hunt in...where does that leave me?.......I tell you what, you be the judge and I will accept the verdict.
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Moore's a stuffing hack.
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Moore's a stuffing hack.
Did you see his game last week? I did and he was very impressive. He may be a hack, let's wait and see, but he has a crack.
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He's always been a good state league player, because that's his level.
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He's always been a good state league player, because that's his level.
His brother was a late bloomer so I live in hope...Last week he was a beast and a general around stoppages. Virtually, the only time he was beaten was when he went to the bench. Tomorrow will give us more insight I guess but unlike the Hunt scenario I reckon Subiaco may test him.
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Moore should be in the side this week, he is exactly what is missing....but I'll bet a month's absence that Hunt is instead. Oh well, he does fit the one step backwards mantra ::)
I'll take you up on that :thumbsup.
No but I don't think he'll bring either of them actually. Think he might leave the team unchanged
Moore and Hunt in...where does that leave me?.......I tell you what, you be the judge and I will accept the verdict.
I'd boot you, but I'm probably bias
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Dimwit has lost the plot and after tonight's arse pumping he will feed us more of back step rubbish