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Title: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2016, 04:13:11 AM
The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club?

Nathan Schmook
AFL.com.au
17 August 2016


THE WAY AFL clubs measure pressure have evolved rapidly in the past five years as the correlation between pressure applied and winning becomes stronger.

The analysis goes well beyond just tackles, spoils and smothers, with Champion Data introducing pressure points in 2011.

The points system is a key tool for clubs and awards appropriately weighted points for each of the four 'pressure acts'.

Points are awarded for corralling (1.2), chasing (1.5), closing (2.75) and physical pressure (3.75).

On this measure, Hawthorn midfielder Liam Shiels is the AFL's pressure king, but who applies the most heat in each area of the ground for your club?


RICHMOND

The Tigers rank No.18 in the AFL for tackles, and when you dig a bit deeper the story doesn't get much better. They are ranked No.13 in the League for pressure points, with an average differential of -2.9.

Backline: Bachar Houli is the Tigers' No.1 pressure player in defence, with 10.5 pressure points a game in this area (No.19 in the AFL). Overall it is the only zone the Tigers rank inside the top eight as a team, coming in at No.6 with a differential of 8.2.

Midfield: Captain Trent Cotchin leads the midfield with 33.8 pressure points a game in this zone (No.33 in the AFL). The engine room is a glaring weakness for the Tigers, who are ranked No.17 in the AFL with a pressure differential of -7.8 a game.

Forwards: Sam Lloyd's average of 9.8 pressure points a game in the forward line ranks No.51 in the AFL but No.1 at Richmond. As a group, the Tigers' forwards are ranked No.10 in the AFL with a pressure differential of -1.6 a game.

Pressure king:
Trent Cotchin – 44 pressure points a game anywhere on the ground (No.46 in the AFL)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-17/the-pressure-kings-who-applies-the-heat-at-your-club
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 18, 2016, 08:21:27 AM
No surprise to see Bachar mentioned
Last 2 games prove how important he is to us
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 18, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
 :facepalm
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 18, 2016, 08:45:59 AM
We don't need to tackle seeing that we control the ball for majority of the game.
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Yeahright on August 18, 2016, 12:06:17 PM
No Rioli?
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 18, 2016, 12:49:19 PM
The Mendie family
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: lamington on August 18, 2016, 01:11:56 PM
The best pressure for me is still scoreboard pressures
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 18, 2016, 02:41:37 PM
The best pressure for me is still scoreboard pressures

And the Tigers have been under that for decades.
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: tony_montana on August 18, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
wo what defines pressure points? I love all these new stats that come from Champion Data but there is little to no explanation as to what they exactly entail.

Do people realise disposal efficiency is one of the most useless stats in the afl and yet everyone bangs on about it when discussing a players skills.

If a player hits a beautiful pass to a teammate and the gumby drops it and turns it over with an unforced error, the kicker is credited with an ineffective kick. If someone blindly throws it on the boot and kicks it more than 30 metres to a pack when he had better options elsewhere he is credited with an effective disposal.

What constitutes a clanger? Because in a collingwood game a few weeks back, Howe gave it to the opposition 4 times in the opening qtr with some absolute howlers and at qtr time he was credited with 1 clanger lmao.

Anyone that watches our games would tell you that Rioli applies more pressure than any other player by a long long way
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: yandb on August 19, 2016, 08:43:36 AM
This just prove that some stats are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Houli will short step to avoid going for the hard ball and therefore put himself in a position to perform a pressure act. :huh :huh :huh
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 19, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
This just prove that some stats are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Houli will short step to avoid going for the hard ball and therefore put himself in a position to perform a pressure act. :huh :huh :huh

Its funny what some see and some don't, Houli is one of the biggest squibs going round but all some people see is his cheap outside kicks
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 19, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
This just prove that some stats are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Houli will short step to avoid going for the hard ball and therefore put himself in a position to perform a pressure act. :huh :huh :huh

Its funny what some see and some don't, Houli is one of the biggest squibs going round but all some people see is his cheap outside kicks

Bachar has been terrific
Last 2 weeks been great
Run and carry
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 19, 2016, 10:08:37 AM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 19, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

I actually seen one during the Cats game and said Whoa stuff I haven't seen one of those for a while, think it was from one of the newbies, will probably have that coached out of him
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Yeahright on August 19, 2016, 10:51:17 AM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

I actually seen one during the Cats game and said Whoa stuff I haven't seen one of those for a while, think it was from one of the newbies, will probably have that coached out of him

I saw one recently too, I was blown away. Think it was one of the newbies
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on August 19, 2016, 11:09:05 AM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

Harry they don't shepherd
Haven't for past 5 years
As its about releasing players and getting extra numbers to the contest and creating overlap
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2016, 12:22:48 PM
Comedy gold!  :clapping
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Harry on August 19, 2016, 12:40:55 PM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

Harry they don't shepherd
Haven't for past 5 years
As its about releasing players and getting extra numbers to the contest and creating overlap

Could have fooled me
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 19, 2016, 05:33:17 PM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

Harry they don't shepherd
Haven't for past 5 years
As its about releasing players and getting extra numbers to the contest and creating overlap

Oh look!  Instead of a shepherd that would allow us to dispose of the ball without intense pressure from the opposition, we then allow the opposition to either dispossess us or at least pressure us into a turnover. In our defence that turns into a goal.

Wow! Great thinking Dimma (Einstein)!!!! :clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on August 19, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
What's the difference between corralling and closing?

Another thing we are poor at is shepherding.  Its non existent

Harry they don't shepherd
Haven't for past 5 years
As its about releasing players and getting extra numbers to the contest and creating overlap

Could have fooled me

The call it "blocking" now because it's more international.  :snidegrin
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: tdy on August 19, 2016, 10:55:22 PM
Just to be a heretic while Cotch racks up pressure points he misses tackles badly and his tackles are ineffective. He badly needs to bulk up so he can impose himself on plays.
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 20, 2016, 07:52:59 AM
Just to be a heretic while Cotch racks up pressure points he misses tackles badly and his tackles are ineffective. He badly needs to bulk up so he can impose himself on plays.

A portion but don't make out as if it is all
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Owl on August 20, 2016, 08:32:18 AM
Dunno what this article is on about, I reckon we are number one for pressure, problem is we apply it to our own players with hospital handballs
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 20, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
Dunno what this article is on about, I reckon we are number one for pressure, problem is we apply it to our own players with hospital handballs

Yep.

Off the field too. Too much pressure and anxiety in the locker room. 
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 20, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Dunno what this article is on about, I reckon we are number one for pressure, problem is we apply it to our own players with hospital handballs

Yep.

Off the field too. Too much pressure and anxiety in the locker room.
Lucky they traded Nahas as that would have added inadequacy to the list! :shh
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 20, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
Dunno what this article is on about, I reckon we are number one for pressure, problem is we apply it to our own players with hospital handballs

Yep.

Off the field too. Too much pressure and anxiety in the locker room.
Lucky they traded Nahas as that would have added inadequacy to the list! :shh
Cocknribs
Title: Re: The pressure kings: Who applies the heat from your club? ..... (afl site)
Post by: Yeahright on August 21, 2016, 11:42:19 AM
Dunno what this article is on about, I reckon we are number one for pressure, problem is we apply it to our own players with hospital handballs

I swear to stuffin god, my hubby was having a good ol' laugh watching Richmond run the ground handballing it to players under more and more pressure. You could just see when the turnover was coming