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Title: Finals Footy
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2016, 05:16:00 PM
Anyone watching Swans v Giants? gee, how far off that are we???  :-[  We play such a low intensity game style - no wonder we went straight out 3 years in a row. No hope under the current visionaries
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Willy on September 10, 2016, 05:16:54 PM
Was just saying the same thing to the misso.

We are miles off.

Great game of footy. Go Giants.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Stalin on September 10, 2016, 05:17:34 PM
It's like a different sport

Why are they not kicking to pockets or backwards
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 10, 2016, 05:18:14 PM
But we're the best corralling side in the AFL! That's why we don't tackle!
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 10, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Yep, we'd be getting smashed!!!
GWS are suposably only kids but gee there playing hard tough football!
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: tony_montana on September 10, 2016, 05:20:12 PM
Its as brutal and tough a game as Ive just about ever seen. Kudos to both sides

You dont need to be skillfull or talented to have that type of intensity
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Stalin on September 10, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Grigg would shine TBH
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 10, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
Hardwick's idea of what is necessary is so far off the mark it's embarrassing.

It is a blight on the club that the only reason he is still coaching is that they gave him a 2 year extension, not because they now think he should still be coach.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Willy on September 10, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
Hardwick's idea of what is necessary is so far off the mark it's embarrassing.

It is a blight on the club that the only reason he is still coaching is that they gave him a 2 year extension, not because they now think he should still be coach.

Yep.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: TigerLand on September 10, 2016, 05:47:55 PM
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: cub on September 10, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
2 free ticket clubs - more so the jaffas makes me sick to be honest
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Diocletian on September 10, 2016, 05:59:00 PM
Watch the way GWS, Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong, Footscray have played and then think of Richmond and you can't help but laugh at the comical comparison...
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Stalin on September 10, 2016, 06:01:28 PM
Snip
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 10, 2016, 06:34:05 PM
Our players are soft. Big heads without being prepared to put the work in.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Lozza on September 10, 2016, 06:41:34 PM
We have dumb players in comparison and i am referring to football brains. A few times watching the game today GWS in tight situations just had the smarts to get out of jail. I was imagining our guys in the same scenarious and we lose every time.

We dont seem to recruit players with footy smarts and these sorts of players are the ones who stand up especially in finals football when they have to think on their feet. Our guys just continually make the same mistakes week in week out.

There is a grand canyon of ability between our guys and the top sides, the gap wont be closed any time soon.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: dwaino on September 10, 2016, 06:47:01 PM
Said the same thing today with my boss and my old man tonight. All year we watch our teams saying we're not too bad and how we might snag a finals spot, then watching these finals and realising how far we've really got to go. The two QFs have been amazing games of footy.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 10, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Agree to all, how many of our players would get a gig in these teams, maybe Rance, Dusty, Cotch, Vlastuin, Rioli, Miles? After that there wouldn't be many takers.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 10, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
Had they "made" finals this year, it would have probably been the smashing hardwick needed.
I agree.
So far off of being a serious club.
The constant rubbish from the admin and coach is no consolation.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Diocletian on September 10, 2016, 07:51:12 PM
Oh look, they're all bloody good sides....
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Chuck17 on September 10, 2016, 07:56:23 PM
Had they "made" finals this year, it would have probably been the smashing hardwick needed.
I agree.
So far off of being a serious club.
The constant rubbish from the admin and coach is no consolation.

It's  mind boggling flabbergasting
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: big tone on September 10, 2016, 08:51:47 PM
For me it's pretty simple- we have far to many guys not up for the fight in big games.
Without even thinking, these guys just aren't up to finals intensity footy , regardless of their abilities.

Grigg, Houli, Ellis, Griff, Astbury,
Then throw in a couple of kids that are not quite up to the "fight" part yet in CEllis and Menadue.

That's is 7 players that lack the fight and intent you need to win finals. Or even big games during the home and away season. That is why we fail in those games continually.

IMO those first 5 guys mentioned are a cancer on this club and we will never be a good side untill they are all gone and replaced with kids that are competitive beasts.

We need to start drafting these sorts of kids. Forget the skinny, silky outside wingman and recruit smart, big bodied, hard kids that are willing to tackle and get their hands dirty.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Chuck17 on September 10, 2016, 08:56:20 PM
Let's do it now
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: naturaldisaster on September 10, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
Said the same thing today with my boss and my old man tonight. All year we watch our teams saying we're not too bad and how we might snag a finals spot, then watching these finals and realising how far we've really got to go. The two QFs have been amazing games of footy.

its mostly in our head I think, we are mentally weak.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 10, 2016, 10:55:10 PM
Change the whole bloody footy department.
We are currently the opposite of what a premiership team should be.
We have a soft, limp wristed, pansy culture that loves backslapping for just showing up.
I would've done it after the infamous EF debacle or atleast after the Tommy Hafey tribute game.
That one game rubber stamped the whole lot of them. Every player, every assistant, every volunteer, should be replaced.
The club is diseased. Start again and hopefully rid the disease.
Get some people that don't talk crap and are fairdinkum.
Get a list manager that knows how to build a team of hard arses that won't take a backward step.
Let's get a coach and assistants that aren't afraid to demand excellence and expect tough footy.

Finals just reminds us of how poo we really are.  :banghead
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: cub on September 10, 2016, 11:28:04 PM
I could be insulting but I won't because whatever makes you happy in life.....
Do other clubs and supporters crap on as much as we do?
Serious ?

NB: Go Storm ....now that's a team ... I enjoyed Colli good and Sydney better but that's it!
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: mat073 on September 11, 2016, 01:14:19 AM
Whats the point comparing Richmond to the Frankensteins monster of the AFL . Seriously how are we supposed to compete with that ????

If were lucky we might be able to secure a few more of their cast offs to help make us mid table again.

What a fool Adam Trelor is leaving the Giants - he mustn't like the idea of multiple premierships.

The Giants are so impressive and obviously the next dynasty in waiting.
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: mightytiges on September 11, 2016, 01:31:18 AM
What a fool Adam Trelor is leaving the Giants - he mustn't like the idea of multiple premierships.
Like his coach  ;).
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: tony_montana on September 11, 2016, 09:02:58 AM
Whats the point comparing Richmond to the Frankensteins monster of the AFL . Seriously how are we supposed to compete with that ????

If were lucky we might be able to secure a few more of their cast offs to help make us mid table again.

What a fool Adam Trelor is leaving the Giants - he mustn't like the idea of multiple premierships.

The Giants are so impressive and obviously the next dynasty in waiting.

You dont need talent to consistently attack the contest hard.

I dont see the hawks and the cats whingeing about not being able to compete with "that"
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: mat073 on September 11, 2016, 10:59:09 AM
They might do some complaining over the next decade Tony .

And GWS have a smorgasbord of top 20 draft picks to look forward to next year....as if they need it .

The competition is rigged . I just hope the 10 000 supporters who actually follow the club enjoy it .
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 11, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
Great thread TM  :cheers

It's all so true, the simple reality is that there are only 4 quality sides in the AFL.
Norf and WC looked similarly outclassed on the weekend and I could see them where we are this time next year.
They finished Top 4 last year.
I don't see us there next year but there's maybe 1 or 2 sides that could join this years Top 4, only the Hawks are in danger of dropping next year.

My main issue with Richmond is the inability of its leadership to envisage an elite standard of performance on and off field - let alone execute it
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Owl on September 12, 2016, 10:08:16 AM
Whats the point comparing Richmond to the Frankensteins monster of the AFL . Seriously how are we supposed to compete with that ????

If were lucky we might be able to secure a few more of their cast offs to help make us mid table again.

What a fool Adam Trelor is leaving the Giants - he mustn't like the idea of multiple premierships.

The Giants are so impressive and obviously the next dynasty in waiting.

You dont need talent to consistently attack the contest hard.

I dont see the hawks and the cats whingeing about not being able to compete with "that"
And why should they?  They have been the beneficiaries of the system, trading older players for multiple draft picks above us, getting top compensation picks above us, father sons etc.  No-one wanted our dross and our picks were being gazumped by tons of compo picks.  Clubs like that were already flush with currency for the new system, we were vulnerable and got shafted on top of it all. 
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Stalin on September 12, 2016, 10:11:47 AM
Yes

But

If you'd had half competent senior coaches / list managers etc. the last 10/15/20 years they could hve been less Shyte   
Title: Re: Finals Footy
Post by: Harry on September 12, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
Penny and Beggy say we are united and are on the right track and have to stick together.  It's very complicated and they are doing a review.  We'll bounce back in 2017 as the iceberg with cream on top and new assistants will take us there.  We are in a good position lead by a fantastic person inside our 4 walls.