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Title: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: one-eyed on September 22, 2016, 02:59:15 AM
Next up is Big Benny Griffiths.

In his 7th season, Griff played 13 matches to take his career total to 61. His best returns for the year were 20 disposals & 5 goals against the Swans (R8), 18 disposals & 3 goals versus Essendon (R17), and 16 disposals & 2 goals against Gold Coast (R12). For his season, Ben was rewarded with a new two year contract until the end of 2018.

Career stats:
           Games  Kicks  Hballs   Disp.  Marks  Tackles  Hitouts   G.B    Clear.  In50   Re50   CP    UP   1%ers
2010        5       1.6      2.2     3.8     0.8       1.2        0.0      3.0
2011        4       3.8      2.8     6.5     3.0       0.8        2.5      1.4
2012        9       4.6      4.7     9.2     2.3       1.0        0.1      0.0
2013        1       3.0      3.0     6.0     3.0       2.0        0.0      0.0
2014      16       6.3      2.7     9.0     4.4       2.8        7.5    12.15
2015      13       6.5      3.2     9.7     4.5       1.8        5.5    12.14
2016      13       6.4      4.3   10.7     4.7       2.8        7.5    14.10    0.8    2.1      0.2    5.5   5.5     2.5

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2026
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2010019


How did we all rate Griffiths' year?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 22, 2016, 03:22:23 AM
Three
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 22, 2016, 04:03:27 AM
I would like to think he is improving but......

Maybe next year?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: cub on September 22, 2016, 04:11:27 AM
4 Like Vlaustin, showed glimpses. Needs to be played in position and given a bit of reign to take the big grab and bomb it long.
Seems to be being stifeled, be it  his head and/or the way he is coached.
I still like him when hes up but
Probably like 90% of players and officials, needs to take a step up.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 22, 2016, 06:10:06 AM
Chief Broom.
"Put the ball through the big sticks Chief"
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 22, 2016, 08:24:09 AM
3.

Too injury prone and can't play injured. Weak mentally. Needs to impose himself more physically. Needs to kick the ball 70m rather than chip it Derwood style.
Is thrown around more than any other player. With Vickery out, has a chance to play forward and isolated there which I think is his best position.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
2

Have been a fan of Bens skillset and his potential in the past - he's had long enough, should be shipped with Vickery, both will never amount to much.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 22, 2016, 09:26:32 AM
Need more of the Swans game (where he kicked 5) and the Freo game where he was very good as the 2nd ruck (actually was our best ruckman that game- watched it again Monday)

2nd half of the season more misses than hits sadly

Showed marginal improvement

Understand why they re-signed him but unless something drastic happens in 2017 that will be all folks
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 22, 2016, 10:35:01 AM
3

Should've been traded but I fear no one was interested in Jane.
Hope he has a blinder next season but I reckon we'll get more of the same from him.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: mat073 on September 22, 2016, 11:43:52 AM
Played his one and only decent game of his career .

His highlights reel would be impressive and give an opposition supporter the impression he is a semi decent player.

The fact is a lazy , half interested and much maligned Vickery has consistently performed better than Ben.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Diocletian on September 22, 2016, 11:57:11 AM
As a KPP he would've had some trade value - now just another list clogger that we're going to be stuck with until they're worth nothing. Well done again Dan, Francis & Moneyblair. :clapping

If he does nothing else -which he most likely won't- hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 22, 2016, 01:25:06 PM
hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Its things like this that show up Hardwick for the pretender that he is, having one of the biggest kick's in the league at his disposal & not incorporating it into the game plan.
Absolutely moronic.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: FooffooValve on September 22, 2016, 02:29:36 PM
hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Its things like this that show up Hardwick for the pretender that he is, having one of the biggest kick's in the league at his disposal & not incorporating it into the game plan.
Absolutely moronic.

Interesting comment - how would you incorporate Ben's long kicking into the game plan?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: eliminator on September 22, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
Need more of the Swans game (where he kicked 5) and the Freo game where he was very good as the 2nd ruck (actually was our best ruckman that game- watched it again Monday)

2nd half of the season more misses than hits sadly

Showed marginal improvement

Understand why they re-signed him but unless something drastic happens in 2017 that will be all folks

Agree. Needs to be far more consistent. The Essendon game should not be the exception it should be the norm.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 22, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Its things like this that show up Hardwick for the pretender that he is, having one of the biggest kick's in the league at his disposal & not incorporating it into the game plan.
Absolutely moronic.

Interesting comment - how would you incorporate Ben's long kicking into the game plan?
You'd need to change the game plan first and foremost. I would pass the ball to him near the centre inf possible and then get him to kick it to just in front of the goal square where you'll have Jack and Rioli and a few other crumbers front and square maybe....
Gives us a chance of scoring with fast ball movement. Something we have been progressively getting worse at doing.....
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
dont disagree doc

however, now that Ty is gone and we're stuck with Griff, I'd play him deep for the year and see what he can do. The times he has looked good was when he was playing as the deepest fwd.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Harry on September 22, 2016, 03:38:59 PM
One word - is soft as butter
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 22, 2016, 05:25:32 PM
One word - is soft as butter

That's 4 words. :lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 22, 2016, 05:30:56 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 22, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Damo on September 22, 2016, 06:14:35 PM
poo year.
His best so far.

Lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 22, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 22, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep

Finally we all agree on something. :dancing :dancing
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: big tone on September 22, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep

Finally we all agree on something. :dancing :dancing
Sack Hardwick is pretty much a consensus these days even with the apologist on here. Not many in his corner at the minute.
On Griff I gave him a zero. Softer than Houli which is saying something.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 22, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Its things like this that show up Hardwick for the pretender that he is, having one of the biggest kick's in the league at his disposal & not incorporating it into the game plan.
Absolutely moronic.

Interesting comment - how would you incorporate Ben's long kicking into the game plan?
Would've thrown him to Leppa years ago and told to work him into as full time defender and used his booming kick at kick outs.
Shortest way home between to points is a straight line.
But regardless of where he plays, every bastard wearing yellow and black should know he's going to kick it 60-70 metres and be ready for it.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on September 22, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
hope he at least uses his long kick more next year, preferably in the VFL.
Its things like this that show up Hardwick for the pretender that he is, having one of the biggest kick's in the league at his disposal & not incorporating it into the game plan.
Absolutely moronic.

Interesting comment - how would you incorporate Ben's long kicking into the game plan?
Would've thrown him to Leppa years ago and told to work him into as full time defender and used his booming kick at kick outs.
Shortest way home between to points is a straight line.
But regardless of where he plays, every bastard wearing yellow and black should know he's going to kick it 60-70 metres and be ready for it.

Or mix it up and know his codes for the day to defeat a defensive set up.

It aint rocket science. But it is at Richmond.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 22, 2016, 08:20:05 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep

Finally we all agree on something. :dancing :dancing
Sack Hardwick is pretty much a consensus these days even with the apologist on here. Not many in his corner at the minute.
On Griff I gave him a zero. Softer than Houli which is saying something.

Don't think anyone on here is in his corner TBH
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 22, 2016, 08:24:08 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep

Finally we all agree on something. :dancing :dancing

On Griff I gave him a zero.

Surprised you didn't do a "Bernard King" and give him a minus 5!!! :lol :lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: (•))(©™ on September 22, 2016, 08:30:07 PM
Him and Vickery. Lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: tony_montana on September 22, 2016, 08:30:52 PM
B1 and B2
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: big tone on September 22, 2016, 08:35:05 PM
poo year.
His best so far.
This, sadly, is very accurate.

Yep

Finally we all agree on something. :dancing :dancing

On Griff I gave him a zero.

Surprised you didn't do a "Bernard King" and give him a minus 5!!! :lol :lol :thumbsup
I notice you don't play the "give him time card", or the "he been really unlucky with injuries" anymore.
And I love it.
Welcome aboard.  :lol
He is a pretender happy to just be on an AFL list. He is not here to make our club better. FHO
Has there ever been a player of his size so easily moved in a marking contest.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: tdy on September 22, 2016, 08:54:20 PM
Full back with the option of a 70km kick in forces teams to play a little deeper making space for the shorter kick in.  Especially if he does it quickly a few times it forces them to zone quickly and they might stuff it up and there be holes to find.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Yeahright on September 23, 2016, 03:13:43 AM
10 for cracking 10 disposals a game :clapping

Would've thrown him to Leppa years ago and told to work him into as full time defender and used his booming kick at kick outs.

Yeah so he can be beaten by spuds like Hampson so we can recruit them 2 years later :lol :lol. Griff is who to blame for us getting Hammer, that I'm sure of.

On his kick outs, anyone remember one commentator saying something along the lines of "now that he's kicked it long 2-3 times everyone knows he can do it and it won't be a weapon anymore" as if somehow his long kicking doesn't give him more options than someone who can only kick 40m  :lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: naturaldisaster on September 24, 2016, 12:12:02 AM
3

Really did nothing apart from a couple of good games, he frustrates me Griff because I really think he has talent and can be the pack crashing forward we need.

Getting caracella is a positive, he was lauded for getting the best out of Hawkins, I reckon he can get Griffs to play to his potential.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 24, 2016, 07:56:01 AM
Dustin Fletcher is what we should have out of defence. Instead we have a guy who plays like Dustin Hoffman in rainman.

So many have been duped here, bit like me me bellis.

This is an A grade pure dud.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: mat073 on September 24, 2016, 11:58:55 AM
Should be taken out of the forward line where he averages 0.8 goals a game .

Before he is delisted he should be given a decent run in the backline as an alternative to Astbury.

His booming kicks could be used as a weapon to break lines .
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Diocletian on September 24, 2016, 12:37:58 PM
Unless we get a half-decent ready made KPP from another club find some young Hogan/Weitering-type gun in the draft, I'd rather play Elton or just chuck Moore or Chol in at the deep end than waste any more time on this dud....
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Ben Griffiths?
Post by: Yeahright on September 24, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
I think Elton needs to play a chunk of games next year from the start of the season. Make or break for him and find out early so we know whether to give Chol or Moore some more responsibility