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Title: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 30, 2016, 07:07:22 AM
CHAMPION DATA 2017 LIST ANALYSIS

CLUB           ELITE  ABOVE AVERAGE  TOTAL


W. Bulldogs     6        13           19
GWS Giants     6        11           17
West Coast     6         8           14
Adelaide          4        10           14
Sydney           6         7           13
St Kilda           1        11           12
Collingwood     2        10           12
Port Adelaide   3         7           10
Melbourne       2         8           10
Hawthorn        5         5           10
Geelong          5         4            9
Fremantle       3         6            9
Richmond        3         6            9
Gold Coast      3         5            8
North Melb.     1         6            7
Essendon        0         7            7
Carlton            2         3            5
Brisbane          0         3            3

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/champion-data-rates-western-bulldogs-list-as-best-in-the-afl-brisbane-lions-rated-worst/news-story/c6115c8844bbead594c93703ade7a068
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 30, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Hmmm

3 elite?

Martin, Rance, Reiwoldt  :huh

Or does the 3 include Cotchin?

I'm blocked from the article because ofthe paywall

Will be picking up the hardcopy HUN shortly, hopefully the atricle is actually in the paper

Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Jonesracing82 on October 30, 2016, 10:18:17 AM
save your $$$ if you want to see the names, we barely get a mention in the article itself
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Raoul Duke on October 30, 2016, 10:32:31 AM
I'm blocked from the article because ofthe paywall
What browser do you use Willy?
I use Google Chrome browser which has a HS paywall bypass extension,works a treat!
 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 30, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
Hmm i count 3 elite players 2 very good players and the rest a mish mash of average below average and juniors.
We could move on half the list and not lose a great deal.
We all know the lack of B and C graders is what kills us.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 30, 2016, 01:37:06 PM
I wonder if Rance is in that 3
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 30, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Rance is all three...like the holy trinity.... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Gracie on October 30, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
Last time these came out that l remember Edwards was one of our elite.

If they are counting players as it stands now then Caddy was rated by them as elite for his hff role at Geelong.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on October 30, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
According to a few of his fans on here Hampson will be in the 6 above average
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 30, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
According to a few of his fans on here Hampson will be in the 6 above average
Elite! :lol
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: the claw on October 30, 2016, 10:26:32 PM
Last time these came out that l remember Edwards was one of our elite.

If they are counting players as it stands now then Caddy was rated by them as elite for his hff role at Geelong.
You mean the bloke who never ever puts his body on the line. Sheesh poor old Brandon Ellis cops it from all quarters and rightly so but this bloke continually escapes criticism.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: tdy on October 30, 2016, 10:39:19 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if jack was only above average. He was being played out of position all year up the ground and his stats would reflect that. Cotch hasn't been great for a while,  captaincy does not suit him and we need a hard body to block for him. Myles doesn't cut it there.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 31, 2016, 06:53:42 AM
Article says that with Deledio going to GWS, they now have another elite player

So in 2016 we had 4  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on October 31, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if jack was only above average. He was being played out of position all year up the ground and his stats would reflect that. Cotch hasn't been great for a while,  captaincy does not suit him and we need a hard body to block for him. Myles doesn't cut it there.

Barlow. :shh
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on November 01, 2016, 01:19:05 PM
Last year, Champion Data had:

4 Elite: Jack, Rance, Lids & Titch.

8 Above Avg (included Cotch, Dusty, Ivan, Miles).

So no surprise we fell away badly when have your stars/reliable players have shocking seasons or are injured.


Going on the above, Lids (GWS) & Titch (shocker) fall out of the elite category with Dusty going up into it.

3 Elite: Jack, Rance, Dusty.

The above average category isn't obvious though. Cotch would still be in there statistically. Hard to think of anyone else deserving  :help.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 01, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
Last year, Champion Data had:

4 Elite: Jack, Rance, Lids & Titch.

8 Above Avg (included Cotch, Dusty, Ivan, Miles).

So no surprise we fell away badly when have your stars/reliable players have shocking seasons or are injured.


Going on the above, Lids (GWS) & Titch (shocker) fall out of the elite category with Dusty going up into it.

3 Elite: Jack, Rance, Dusty.

The above average category isn't obvious though. Cotch would still be in there statistically. Hard to think of anyone else deserving  :help.

Hampson

 :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on November 01, 2016, 04:26:31 PM
Hampson, Hunt, Houli. Jackstars trifecta
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on November 01, 2016, 04:33:02 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 01, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?

Still above average, he cant help it if he was playing with a bunch of spuds and we were tanking at the end of the year
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 01, 2016, 07:29:01 PM
Edwards and Batchelor, the experts quinella.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 01, 2016, 08:03:20 PM
Edwards and Batchelor, the experts quinella.

Add Hampson in for the trifecta
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 01, 2016, 08:04:53 PM
Edwards and Batchelor, the experts quinella.

Add Hampson in for the trifecta
I think Hampson stands above those two. He is in a category all on his own. ;D
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 01, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
No, Batchelor is taller, just ask the experts how tall he plays. Waite will testify to that.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on November 01, 2016, 09:16:00 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?
So many excuses....so little justification
Still above average, he cant help it if he was playing with a bunch of spuds and we were tanking at the end of the year
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 01, 2016, 09:21:40 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?
Well you could go off his stats or Brownlow votes but I am sure you will find a way to discredit that
So many excuses....so little justification
Still above average, he cant help it if he was playing with a bunch of spuds and we were tanking at the end of the year
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 01, 2016, 09:41:32 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?
Well you could go off his stats or Brownlow votes but I am sure you will find a way to discredit that
So many excuses....so little justification
Still above average, he cant help it if he was playing with a bunch of spuds and we were tanking at the end of the year
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on November 01, 2016, 10:58:52 PM
Is Cotch still above average or is he average now?
Well you could go off his stats or Brownlow votes but I am sure you will find a way to discredit that
So many excuses....so little justification
Still above average, he cant help it if he was playing with a bunch of spuds and we were tanking at the end of the year
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on November 02, 2016, 12:53:56 AM
No, Batchelor is taller, just ask the experts how tall he plays. Waite will testify to that.

Gee wiz Waite has given Rance a bath before too, I guess he doesn't play tall either :lol
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 02, 2016, 03:30:34 AM
No, Batchelor is taller, just ask the experts how tall he plays. Waite will testify to that.

Gee wiz Waite has given Rance a bath before too, I guess he doesn't play tall either :lol

Still got the Batchelor love I see.
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on November 02, 2016, 08:33:59 AM
No, Batchelor is taller, just ask the experts how tall he plays. Waite will testify to that.

Gee wiz Waite has given Rance a bath before too, I guess he doesn't play tall either :lol

Still got the Batchelor love I see.

Batch goes alright....... :lol
Title: Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
Post by: Yeahright on November 02, 2016, 02:09:03 PM
No, Batchelor is taller, just ask the experts how tall he plays. Waite will testify to that.

Gee wiz Waite has given Rance a bath before too, I guess he doesn't play tall either :lol

Still got the Batchelor love I see.

Nothing to do with loving him. Just actually acknowledging he doesn't play small :lol