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Title: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on November 16, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
Tony Free is gone it seems
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 16, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Free leaves Richmond Board

richmondfc.com.au   
November 16, 2016 12:00 PM

Tony Free has resigned as a Richmond director.

Free recently informed the Board that increasing commitments away from football meant the time was right for him to step away.

A former Club captain and two-time Jack Dyer Medallist, Free has spent more than eight years as a Board member.

“I thank Tony on behalf of members for his commitment over a long period of time. He has demonstrated how much this Club means to him both as a player and around the Board table,” Richmond President Peggy O’Neal said.

“We will undoubtedly see him at the football and it goes without saying that he will always remain a valued member of the Richmond family. The entire Board wishes him, his wife Paula and his family, the very best for the future.”

The Club’s Nominations Committee will interview potential candidates and, based on skill requirements, make a recommendation to the Board to fill the casual vacancy in the New Year.

People wanting more information can contact company secretary Michael Stahl on mstahl@richmondfc.com.au. The full Nominations Committee Charter can be found on the Club’s website under the ‘Club’ menu item.

In other board news, O’Neal confirmed members would be asked to vote on changes to the Club’s constitution at the December 14 Annual General Meeting.

The Board has accepted a Governance Committee recommendation that director tenure limits be put in place. The constitutional amendments would see directors limited to three terms.

As part of the transition, current directors who are beyond three terms will serve out their current term but then not be eligible to serve as a director again.

The Governance Committee also recommended limiting the President to two terms in that role. A full explanation of all proposed amendments will be included with the notice of the AGM.

“Director term limits vary significantly across the AFL, and in business more broadly. The Club’s Governance Committee has been considering this for almost two years and the Board has accepted the recommendation that term limits be introduced and that will now be put to members,” O’Neal said.

The Board also confirmed an election will be held with Board incumbents Kerry Ryan and Emmett Dunne standing for re-election. Simon Wallace and Peter Casey have also nominated for the two positions.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-11-16/free-leaves-richmond-board
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 16, 2016, 01:14:09 PM
Couple of points = IMESHO

The Club’s Nominations Committee will interview potential candidates and, based on skill requirements, make a recommendation to the Board to fill the casual vacancy in the New Year.

People wanting more information can contact company secretary Michael Stahl on mstahl@richmondfc.com.au. The full Nominations Committee Charter can be found on the Club’s website under the ‘Club’ menu item.


IMESHO there is where the board/club are making a bad call. Here is a perfect opportunity to try and correct the disconnect with members, the cynical view of the board people hold and simply give back to the members (make them feel it's THEIR club)

IMHO they should say "you know what we aren't going to wait until the new year, we don't need the noms committee to recommend as we have great candidates to select from. We have an election coming up in the next month. Members can now elect 3 directors rather than 2."

I know they wont do it but they should. It would be a great start and it gives people the ability to put fresh faces on the board or re-elect incumbents via an election rather than another board appointment.

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In other board news, O’Neal confirmed members would be asked to vote on changes to the Club’s constitution at the December 14 Annual General Meeting.

The Board has accepted a Governance Committee recommendation that director tenure limits be put in place. The constitutional amendments would see directors limited to three terms.

As part of the transition, current directors who are beyond three terms will serve out their current term but then not be eligible to serve as a director again.

The Governance Committee also recommended limiting the President to two terms in that role. A full explanation of all proposed amendments will be included with the notice of the AGM.

“Director term limits vary significantly across the AFL, and in business more broadly. The Club’s Governance Committee has been considering this for almost two years and the Board has accepted the recommendation that term limits be introduced and that will now be put to members,” O’Neal said.


think they are good changes, actually excellent changes. Way it should be again IMESHO

If people think they are right or even if they are wrong then please make the effort to vote, there is no excuse. even if you cannot attend the AGM there are other ways to vote or give your vote to someone else. It isn't hard. People want to be heard well here's your chance
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 16, 2016, 02:42:08 PM
peggy sue the dud knew she was a sitting duck so hence the rush to stitch her up for another 3 years?
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on November 16, 2016, 02:49:38 PM
Former Tigers captain Tony Free steps down as director

AFL.com.au
16 November 2016


FORMER captain and club champion Tony Free has stood down as a Richmond director ahead of the upcoming board elections due to increased commitments away from the game.

Free, who spent more than eight years as a board member, will be replaced early next year, once the Tigers have interviewed potential candidates.

Richmond is preparing for its second board election in seven years as incumbents Kerry Ryan and Emmett Dunne stand for re-election against challengers Simon Wallace and Peter Casey. 

Nominations for the board election closed on Monday and members will now vote electronically for their preferred candidates, with the results announced at the club's annual general meeting on December 14.

The Tigers confirmed on Wednesday that members would also be given the opportunity to vote on introducing term limits for directors.

The constitutional amendments would see directors limited to three terms and presidents limited to two terms in that role.

As part of the changes, current directors who are beyond three terms would serve out their current term but not be eligible to fill a seat on the board again.

It would also mean president Peggy O'Neal would hand over the presidency and depart the board at the end of her new three-year term as an appointed director.

"Director term limits vary significantly across the AFL, and in business more broadly," O'Neal said.

"The club's governance committee has been considering this for almost two years and the board has accepted the recommendation that term limits be introduced and that will now be put to members."

Rob Dalton and vice president Maurice O'Shannassy are Richmond's longest-serving directors after joining the board late in 2004.

O'Neal joined the board in 2005 and was appointed president in October 2013.

The club has more recently added fresh voices with the appointment of Dunne this year and John O'Rourke in 2015.

Free, who played 133 games for the Tigers between 1987 and 1996, was appointed in June 2008 and was praised by O'Neal for his contribution to the club.   

"I thank Tony on behalf of members for his commitment over a long period of time," O'Neal said. 

"He has demonstrated how much this club means to him both as a player and around the Board table.

"We will undoubtedly see him at the football and it goes without saying that he will always remain a valued member of the Richmond family.

"The entire board wishes him, his wife Paula and his family, the very best for the future."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-16/former-tigers-captain-tony-free-steps-down-as-director
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 16, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
IMESHO there is where the board/club are making a bad call. Here is a perfect opportunity to try and correct the disconnect with members, the cynical view of the board people hold and simply give back to the members (make them feel it's THEIR club)

IMHO they should say "you know what we aren't going to wait until the new year, we don't need the noms committee to recommend as we have great candidates to select from. We have an election coming up in the next month. Members can now elect 3 directors rather than 2."

I know they wont do it but they should. It would be a great start and it gives people the ability to put fresh faces on the board or re-elect incumbents via an election rather than another board appointment.

Heartily agree with you WP.
We are having an election for 2 places on the board.
Simply accept Free's resignation and have an election for 3
My conspiracy brain however thinks this is another sneaky one. Suppose Ryan and Dunne are NOT elected and are beaten out by Wallace and Casey. The board can then APPOINT Ryan to Free's spot and Dunne can be APPOINTED to the next resignation I am expecting soon, as flagged in the media previously. In that way O'Neal and the board can have two bites of the cherry. Try to get Ryan and Dunne elected and if it doesn't work APPOINT them. If they do get elected then simply find another mate to get the resignation spots.

Here's what I posted back in September.
Further to these elections, it is also worth noting that Caro also mentions that there may be more APPOINTMENTS made by the board before the AGM.

Fairfax Media expects a further two Richmond directors to stand down over the next month.


So, if true, that would mean a change to the board of as many as four in the space of a couple of months.
O'Neal facing re-election but APPOINTED by the board as their choice, IMO changing her status.
Dunne APPOINTED last month and facing election in December
Ryan APPOINTED to the board and facing re-election in December.
Two further directors standing down next month and obviously their replacements APPOINTED by the board to serve the remainder of the term of resigning directors.

So on a board of 9 the members will only have a choice of 2 directors, Ryan and Dunne or their challengers.

I know that what the board are doing is legal and according to the constitution but I would much prefer they would announce the next two resignations to coincide with the AGM, call for replacement candidates and have an election for all 4 positions, while allowing O'Neal to take her position as a board APPOINTED director.

I personally don't like these board appointed directors but acknowledge the members gave them that right. I also feel that the O'Neal APPOINTMENT is a corruption of the philosophy behind this power. It was and is asserted that this is a way for the board to bring in required skills without having to campaign to members. "New blood" if you will. If O'Neal cannot convince members to vote for her after eleven years on the board with three as President then surely her APPOINTMENT is a direct corruption of members will ie she can't get elected by the members so we'll appoint her despite their wishes.

As regards the changes to limit directors terms I would warn people to look very, very closely at the language.
It would not be unusual to see a seemingly innocent, unrelated change slipped through as part of a popular change.
 
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 16, 2016, 04:58:08 PM
The double standards are further highlighted by the Free resignation.

O'Neal, Ryan and Dunne were all APPOINTED in October to cover a resignation, before elections in November.
And here we have a resignation - signalled in September - which won't be covered until the new year.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 16, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
The double standards are further highlighted by the Free resignation.

O'Neal, Ryan and Dunne were all APPOINTED in October to cover a resignation, before elections in November.
And here we have a resignation - signalled in September - which won't be covered until the new year.

Exactly the reason I said it's really bad call, horrible mistake

Massive chance to give members a say and they are not taking it

They seem to forget that if we get to elect 3 in the upcoming election then at least 1 of the incumbents (obviously it will be Dunne) will get re-elected.

That would be an excellent result for the current board because it is entirely possible that neither will get re-elected in Dec because people want to send a message to them

Stupid decision IMESHO
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Damo on November 16, 2016, 06:48:12 PM
Is IMESHO a special way of saying IMO?

Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 16, 2016, 07:10:41 PM
Is IMESHO a special way of saying IMO?

In my ever so humble opinion it is
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Damo on November 16, 2016, 07:49:00 PM
Is IMESHO a special way of saying IMO?

In my ever so humble opinion it is

Seems like it has a touch of the look at me about it IMESHO
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 16, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
They seem to forget that if we get to elect 3 in the upcoming election then at least 1 of the incumbents (obviously it will be Dunne) will get re-elected.

That would be an excellent result for the current board because it is entirely possible that neither will get re-elected in Dec because people want to send a message to them

Stupid decision IMESHO
But as I said in my previous, if they've got the Free spot (and another) up their sleeves they can give them to Ryan and/or Dunne next year if needs.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 16, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
The double standards are further highlighted by the Free resignation.

O'Neal, Ryan and Dunne were all APPOINTED in October to cover a resignation, before elections in November.
And here we have a resignation - signalled in September - which won't be covered until the new year.

Numerous conflicts of interest occurring
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Harry on November 16, 2016, 10:00:50 PM
Seems a deal has been made with the Malvern group where they'll replace Free and another soon to be announced resignation as reported by Caro
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 16, 2016, 10:20:02 PM
Seems a deal has been made with the Malvern group where they'll replace Free and another soon to be announced resignation as reported by Caro
Maybe this is the opportunity that I was told for Hayden Morris to be given a seat on the board. I know he knows Benny Gale very well as I have been to functions where I have met up with them both having a chat.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Harry on November 16, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
Seems a deal has been made with the Malvern group where they'll replace Free and another soon to be announced resignation as reported by Caro
Maybe this is the opportunity that I was told for Hayden Morris to be given a seat on the board. I know he knows Benny Gale very well as I have been to functions where I have met up with them both having a chat.

Was he part of the Malvern group?

Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 16, 2016, 11:10:45 PM
But free was a part of the "football" experience on the board ....
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 16, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Seems a deal has been made with the Malvern group where they'll replace Free and another soon to be announced resignation as reported by Caro
Maybe this is the opportunity that I was told for Hayden Morris to be given a seat on the board. I know he knows Benny Gale very well as I have been to functions where I have met up with them both having a chat.

Was he part of the Malvern group?
Yep.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 17, 2016, 12:31:08 AM
But free was a part of the "football" experience on the board ....

Dunne makes his experience redundant.  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: TigerMonk on November 17, 2016, 11:39:49 AM
Best News l heard  :snidegrin Should have been gone long ago. Bye bad knees  ;D
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 17, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
It's not Hayden Morris for this vacancy.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 19, 2016, 08:54:27 AM
The Club’s Nominations Committee will interview potential candidates and, based on skill requirements, make a recommendation to the Board to fill the casual vacancy in the New Year.

People wanting more information can contact company secretary Michael Stahl on mstahl@richmondfc.com.au. The full Nominations Committee Charter can be found on the Club’s website under the ‘Club’ menu item.


These two lines in the release from the club show a seeming subtle change in style from the board.
Seems to say that anyone interested in the Free vacancy can contact Stahl to put their name up.
I assume the next sentence about the Nominations Committee warns people about what is needed and what the process is.

A good chance to move (slightly) to a better, more open process of filling casual vacancies.
Still secretive compared to open elections but it at least moves away from a "groupthink" of people in particular social/employment circles.
Or maybe they've just run out of mates to fill the positions.   ;D

Also a big, big chance to change four board members - 2 elections, 2 casual vacancies -in the next couple of months.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 19, 2016, 10:11:48 AM
Sack the whole lot of the retards.

Shifty dog criminals.
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on November 19, 2016, 10:51:30 AM
Got to laugh at the name of the topic
" freezer steps down "
He never stepped up in the first place
A lightweight with no ability at board level
Made a goose of himself when he coached Prahran back in the ammos in late 90,s
Being banned from coaching on the ground on several occasions
10-12 years he is on the board at RFC
Enough said
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 19, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
stuffn kangaroo court
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Chuck17 on November 19, 2016, 09:22:21 PM
To use the great mans Harry approach; which of you fools have ever been on an AFL board before
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 19, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
Got to laugh at the name of the topic
" freezer steps down "
He never stepped up in the first place
A lightweight with no ability at board level
Made a goose of himself when he coached Prahran back in the ammos in late 90,s
Being banned from coaching on the ground on several occasions
10-12 years he is on the board at RFC
Enough said

Sorry but what does his record as a coach have to do with his ability as a director  :huh

Great example of comparing a lemon with a coconut

Silly comparison
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 20, 2016, 12:32:15 AM
Wonder if it was really ever Freezer on this forum...
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: big tone on November 20, 2016, 10:15:50 AM
Is IMESHO a special way of saying IMO?

In my ever so humble opinion it is

Seems like it has a touch of the look at me about it IMESHO
Made me laugh. Thank you. 👍
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 20, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
I must confess to overlooking an important factor in the Free resignation.
Tony Free was one of the three APPOINTED directors on the board.
As some may be aware, the club has never announced who are the APPOINTED directors.
As I've posted before, I worked out the APPOINTED directors were: O'Neal (2013 and thus up this year), Free (2014) and Dalton (2015).

Now the constitution directly states:
8.1.9    At all times after the 2015 Annual General Meeting, the Board shall consist of six Elected Directors
           and three Appointed Directors, but may also include the Executive Director.

The resignation of Free, if activated before nominations were called for, could have resulted in Dunne being granted his spot rather than the retiring Matthies.
Dunne could have taken the Free spot either before or, as is going to happen, after the AGM.
This would have resulted in two spots (Ryan's and a vacant spot from Matthies) being up for election.
Two directors could have been designated APPOINTED directors (O'Neal and Dunne), both announced at the AGM.

I don't know why the board has allowed this messy situation to occur, but it is clear that the unnecessary secrecy around APPOINTED directors has played a part. 
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 20, 2016, 11:57:47 AM
It's their way.... To run things like a pari
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: Diocletian on November 20, 2016, 03:53:31 PM
....again in English please....
Title: Re: Freezer steps down from RFC Board (afl site)
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 20, 2016, 04:15:07 PM
Lol. Nfi what happened there.