One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Diocletian on November 26, 2016, 01:57:24 PM
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So one solitary pick....who do we use it on?
Be happy with any of the following:
Xavier Richards
Angus Litherland
Mitch Brown
Cam O'Shea
Goodwin - Maric clone, Nankervis understudy (Coburg)
Nelson - classy liitle ball magnet (Claremont)
Fox - poor man's Josh P. Kennedy (Coburg)
Scharenberg - Atley went at 32 - this kids's basically the same player...
Others:
Keilty (KPD/KPF, Casey), McInerney (Ruck, Casey), Marshall (Ruck/KPD, North Ballarat), Mihocek (KPD, Port Melbourne).
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I would actually take Jake Barrett from GWS. He has been killing it in the NEAFL over the last couple of years. Bigger, stronger and faster than Miles.
I think he is the best player available IMHO.
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
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Here's a list of some of the talent that went undrafted:
Jake Barrett
Hamish Brayshaw
Luke Bunker
Taylin Duman
Matt Guelfi
Ben Jarman
Oscar Junker
Peter Ladhams
Kim LeBois
Max Lynch
Tony Olango
Reece Piper
Xavier Richards
Jack Rolls
Brodie Romensky
Jonty Scharenberg
Zach Sproule
Alex Villis
Sam Walker
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I thought we are using 2 selections.....could be wrong
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No just one spot left - apparently going with a 40/4 list next year.
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Can't understand how we only got one pick not happy with that.
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No just one spot left - apparently going with a 40/4 list next year.
Cheers.....Olango, Barrett or Guelfi will do.
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Here's a list of some of the talent that went undrafted:
Jake Barrett
Hamish Brayshaw
Luke Bunker
Taylin Duman
Matt Guelfi
Ben Jarman
Oscar Junker
Peter Ladhams
Kim LeBois
Max Lynch
Tony Olango
Reece Piper
Xavier Richards
Jack Rolls
Brodie Romensky
Jonty Scharenberg
Zach Sproule
Alex Villis
Sam Walker
A few there I'd be happy with from that list but there's definitely some talent still around for the rookie draft.
I'd add Bayok,Baker,Stengle to that list if we were looking for smalls but Sproule would be a handy addition if we're looking to go tall.
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Does anyone know what pick we have?
I'm assuming it's pick 6 or there abouts?
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Snubbed draftees who deserve rookie lifelines
Ben Waterworth,
FOX SPORTS
27 November 2016
THERE were ample tears of joy and feel-good stories on Friday night as 77 players realised their AFL dreams.
But among the happy tales were just as many hardluck stories of disappointment.
Not every aspiring AFL player was able to find a way onto a club list during Friday night’s national draft in Sydney.
The good news, however, for those prospects left hanging is there are still two lifelines, with the annual pre-season and rookie drafts both taking place on Monday afternoon.
And plenty of players who missed out on Friday night could be part of recruiters’ plans.
We profile 16 aspiring AFL players who were overlooked at the national draft, yet could score an AFL lifeline during Monday’s pre-season or rookie drafts.
Jonty Scharenberg (Glenelg)
The younger brother of Collingwood’s Matt was arguably the most unlucky to miss the national draft cut on Friday night. While there has been a question mark over his kicking — he believes it has improved dramatically this season — Scharenberg is a gun inside ball magnet who has already impressed at senior SANFL level. He won All-Australian honours after an excellent national carnival for South Australia, averaging 24 disposals, 10 contested possessions, five clearances and six tackles per game. Will definitely be picked up as a rookie, but really should’ve been drafted straight onto a senior list.
Jonty Scharenberg didn’t make the draft cut. Photo: Scott Barbour/AFL Media/Getty Images
Zach Sproule (Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy prospect)
Ask this kid to play anywhere and he’ll do it — and do it well. A popular figure among all the teams he’s represented in 2016, Sproule has shown off his versatility throughout the season. He was excellent as a key back for the Murray Bushrangers in the TAC Cup but just as impressive up forward in the two national carnivals, booting seven goals for NSW-ACT (Division 2) and six for the Allies (Division 2). Sproule bases his game off Nick Riewoldt and has a flawless set-shot routine. Was attached to the GWS Academy, but that won’t matter in the rookie draft.
Louis Cunningham (Oakleigh Chargers)
An exciting runner with a beautiful left-foot kick, Cunningham deserves an opportunity to develop on an AFL club’s rookie list. He impressed throughout 2016, averaging 19 disposals 12 uncontested possessions and six marks per outing as an outside midfielder. Cunningham is a line-breaker and a game-breaker — and deserves a gig.
Bailey Morrish (Dandenong Stingrays)
Any other year and Morrish probably would’ve been picked up on Friday night. But due to the wide array of mid-sized defenders in this year’s class, the Stingray missed out. In his first year in the TAC Cup, Morrish impressed in his 16 matches, averaging 13 disposals and 3.5 rebounds per game. After playing in the Under 18 All-Stars game, he further enhanced his prospects at the national draft combine, showing off his elite athleticism to finish among the top 10 in the repeat sprint, 20m sprint and the three vertical jump tests. Definitely deserves a rookie spot.
Bailey Morrish (centre) deserves a rookie spot. Photo: Josie Hayden
Luke Bunker (Northern Knights)
Didn’t receive too much interest from AFL clubs ahead of the national draft but a strong chance to be rookied. Bunker is one of Champion Data’s favourites thanks to his ability to consistently rack up the footy. An inside midfielder with a knack for clearing the ball, Bunker was constantly at the top of the stats sheet for both Vic Metro (22 disposals, 10 contested possessions) and Northern Knights (28 disposals, 12 contested possessions and six clearances) in 2016. He has a ready-made AFL frame in the Matt Priddis mould and should be picked up on Monday.
Taylin Duman (Oakleigh Chargers)
A big reason behind the Chargers’ deep push into the 2016 TAC Cup finals campaign, Duman is a creative and intelligent defender that provides great rebound. He was named in the competition’s team of the year after averaging 20 disposals, seven handball receives and five marks per game, while also playing a key role in Vic Metro’s successful national carnival campaign by averaging 15 touches.
Kym LeBois (North Adelaide)
If you get a chance to catch a glimpse of LeBois’ 2016 highlight reel, you’ll be blown away. The nephew of Alwyn and Aaron Davey, LeBois is a quick, agile small forward with terrific footy nous and goal sense. He averaged 86 Champion Data ranking points for North Adelaide in the SANFL under 18s this year. LeBois uses the ball well, too, finishing among the top 10 in the kicking test at the national combine.
Mitch Hinge (Glenelg)
Poised and polished off halfback, but Hinge has proven throughout the year that he can play anywhere on the field. He seems best suited to a defensive role thanks to his accurate kicking and intercept ability, however. Was one of South Australia’s most consistent national carnival performers, averaging 13.5 disposals per game, while he also played in the Under 18 All-Stars game on Grand Final eve.
Ben Jarman (North Adelaide)
While many were surprised the son of Crows/Hawks great Darren wasn’t picked up on Friday night, Jarman looms as the perfect rookie pick for any AFL club ahead of the 2017 season. While he takes after his father in terms of his silky ball use, clean hands and footy nous, Jarman still needs plenty of physical development before making an impact at AFL level. Hence why two years on an AFL rookie list looms as an excellent option for a club. The Crows said late on Friday night that they were committed to picking up Jarman as a rookie, provided he wasn’t selected in the pre-season draft — which would be an excellent result for all parties.
Alex Villis (Norwood)
He might be thinly built, but Villis’ ability to explode allows him to provide great run and carry out of defence. Villis won All-Australian honours earlier this year after averaging 15 disposals and 262 metres gained — the equal fourth-most of any defender — at the Under 18 champs.
Sam Walker (Glenelg)
Certainly a surprise national draft omission, falling behind several other key defensive prospects. A mid-sized, rebounding defender that distributes cleanly, Walker had an excellent Under 18 carnival that earnt him All-Australian honours, averaging 15 touches at 83 per cent disposal efficiency. In particular, he starred against Vic Metro at Etihad Stadium with 21 disposals, seven rebounds and a kicking efficiency of 100 per cent. Just as good one-on-one defensively as he is with the ball in hand.
Jye Bolton (Claremont)
A hard-running ball magnet that can either play as an inside or outside midfielder, Bolton couldn’t have done much more in 2016 to boost his draft hopes. His decision to cross over to the WAFL as a mature-age recruit in an attempt to boost his draft prospects paid dividends, finishing the season as the league’s standout player for the season. The 24-year-old won the Sandover Medal as the competition’s best and fairest player, as well as Claremont’s best and fairest, a spot in the WAFL team of the year and the Simpson medal after his two-goal, 46-disposal game in WA’s 134-point state game victory over Tasmania. Over the last 10 games of the WAFL season, Bolton averaged 35 touches and 10 clearances per game.
Liam Ryan (Subiaco)
After beginning the season in the WAFL reserves, Ryan elevated to the seniors — and thrived, taking several high-flying marks and booting 40 goals from 16 games. The most impressive aspect about his scoreboard return was that he booted at least one goal in every match. The 20-year-old’s average of 2.5 goals per game was the second most of anyone in the WAFL. An exciting forward that plays the game on instinct but also makes great decisions in the clutch, especially by foot, Ryan would be an exciting pick-up.
Brett Eddy (South Adelaide)
The mature-age mid-sized forward attracted the interest of Port Adelaide after three outstanding seasons with South Adelaide. The 27-year-old wasn’t picked up in the national draft, but is almost certain to go in the rookie draft, potentially to the Power but less likely after they snared Todd Marshall with their first selection on Friday night. A 193cm mobile forward, Eddy kicked 74 goals this year, backing up hauls of 61 and 42 majors in his first two years in the SANFL. He’s a good mark on the lead and is an accurate set-shot in front of goal.
Michael Gibbons (Williamstown VFL)
A gun ball magnet that has run out of things to achieve, Gibbons was officially the best player in the VFL. He won the JJ Liston Trophy — the VFL’s equivalent of the Brownlow Medal — in September following a stunning individual season, where he accumulated more disposals, uncontested possessions and inside 50s than any other VFL player, while also ranking No. 3 for total clearances and No. 4 for total contested possessions. After averaging 30 touches and seven clearances per outing this season, Gibbons deserves a gig on an AFL list — senior or rookie — more than most VFL players.
Rowan Marshall (North Ballarat VFL)
A 203cm big man from New Zealand with a rugby background, Marshall was one of the most versatile and unique VFL prospects ahead of November’s drafts. He missed out on selection in his draft year (2014), but has developed significantly in the VFL over the past two years. Marshall averaged 15.4 disposals — the second most of any ruckman in the VFL. He also averaged 11 hit-outs and five intercepts per match. He’s competitive in the ruck and an interceptor down back — a unique combination but one that potentially appeals to AFL recruiters.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-snubbed-afl-draftees-that-deserve-rookie-lifelines/news-story/14b46d21b738387d0e9f51b331045e1f
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Does anyone know what pick we have?
I'm assuming it's pick 6 or there abouts?
Yeah should be same as our 1st ND pick which was 6.
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We need Jye Bolton.
Shai and Jye.
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There is also still Billy Cooper & Derek Smith, two academy players that we nominated that weren't drafted - if they don't get picked up in the rookie draft either we can we can take them both as category B rookies....Cooper is small forward, Smith a HBF.
Cooper:
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_...ID=89298&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=43293901
Info on Smith from Big Footy:
Derek Smith played 1 game for Bendigo Pioneers but playing for Wentworth Football Club won the B&F for the Sunraysia Football League as well as the Best Rookie player.
Is a quick skillful half back flanker.
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Sam Walker for me
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
Zach Sproule fits that bill.
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Does anyone know what pick we have?
I'm assuming it's pick 6 or there abouts?
Yeah should be same as our 1st ND pick which was 6.
Yep, we have pick 6.
REVERSE LADDER ORDER
Nb: The rookie draft will proceed in this order over several rounds with some exceptions based on number of list spots available.
1. Essendon
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Fremantle
4. Gold Coast Suns
5. Carlton
6. Richmond
7. Collingwood
8. Melbourne
9. Port Adelaide
10. St Kilda
11. North Melbourne
12. West Coast Eagles
13. Adelaide Crows
14. Hawthorn
15. GWS Giants
16. Geelong Cats
17. Sydney Swans
18. Western Bulldogs
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/your-ultimate-guide-to-2016-afl-preseason-and-rookie-drafts/news-story/ef44171cf2c1c3c3f98696d95c53a3b7
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When is the AFL rookie draft? AFL pre-season draft, order, how does it work, who can be picked?
Foxsports
27 November 2016
AFL clubs have the chance to find the next Matt Priddis, Kieren Jack or Luke Dahlhaus on Monday afternoon, when the pre-season and rookie drafts are held.
Here’s everything you need to know ahead of the two drafts.
WHEN ARE THEY HELD?
BOTH the 2017 Pre-Season Draft and 2017 Rookie Draft will be held on Monday 28 November from 4PM AEDT.
While held in 2016, naming conventions and scheduling of previous pre-season and rookie drafts mean they are titled as the drafts for 2017.
Neither draft will be televised, with foxfooty.com.au providing live coverage of the picks as they happen online.
HOW DO THEY WORK?
EVERY club is connected via a conference call and a computer screen that is administered from AFL headquarters.
The computer will log each selection in real time.
Clubs will be granted two minutes for each selection and will have one opportunity to ask for extra time, as per the national draft guidelines.
THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT
THE 2017 pre-season draft will start first at 4PM on Monday 28 November.
The pre-season draft is an extension of the national draft, so all players taken must go onto the club’s primary list.
However the introduction of free agency has somewhat diminished the importance of the pre-season draft. It is for uncontracted players to nominate that missed the national draft or any players who were delisted after the main draft.
It would be somewhat of a surprise if one or more players are taken in the pre-season draft.
For 2017, all clubs must have between 38 and 40 senior listed players. However the only clubs that are eligible to participate in the pre-season draft are those who are yet to fill their list with the maximum of 40 players.
Notable past pre-season selections include Kurt Tippett (2012), Bachar Houli (2011), Ben Cousins (2009), Eddie Betts (2005) and Nick Stevens (2004).
The most recent pre-season draft selection was Jason Tutt (Carlton) in the 2014 draft, while Jed Lamb (GWS) was taken in the 2013 draft.
THE ROOKIE DRAFT
BETWEEN the final pre-season draft selection and first rookie draft pick, clubs with academies or potential father-son selections have the ability to select those players, without fear of another club outbidding them. In other words, there is no bidding system.
The order for the rookie draft is the reverse of the AFL ladder at the end of the finals series.
There are different rookie categories:
— Category A rookies are primarily players who have had a traditional Australian football development
— Category B rookies are players from non-traditional recruiting backgrounds, such as former middle distance runner and current Geelong player Mark Blicavs.
Each club is permitted to recruit up to three category B rookies and between four and six category A rookies.
International, father-son or category B rookies who have already been signed (such as GWS signed and former Commonwealth Games decathlete Jake Stein), will still have their name read out with the club’s last pick of the rookie draft.
Many players have been given promises by clubs to be selected in the rookie draft, such as Ben Jarman — the son of Adelaide and Hawthorn great Darren — who the Crows will select if he is not taken in the pre-season draft, which is unlikely.
At the conclusion of the rookie draft, each club must have filled its senior and rookie list as there will be no more opportunities to sign players before the 2016 season.
WHAT TYPE OF PLAYER IS TAKEN IN THE ROOKIE DRAFT?
THERE are multiple snubbed draftees who are likely to receive rookie lifelines.
Jonty Scharenberg, the brother of Collingwood defender Matthew, was overlooked in the national draft despite being rated by some as a top 25 pick going into the night.
Mature age recruits such as Jye Bolton (Claremont, WAFL), Liam Ryan (Subiaco, WAFL), Brett Eddy (South Adelaide, SANFL) and Michael Gibbons (Williamstown, VFL) are also contenders.
Notable players from last season’s rookie draft included Tom Papley (Sydney Swans, 20 games), Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (Essendon, 21 games) and Tom Ruggles (Geelong Cats, 18 games).
Crows Charlie Cameron (Pick 7, 2014) and Rory Laird (Pick 5, 2012), Swan Dane Rampe (Pick 37, 2013), Cat Mark Blicavs (Pick 54, 2012) and Bulldogs Luke Dahlhaus (Pick 22, 2011) and Jason Johannisen (Pick 39, 2011) are arguably the best rookie draft selections of the last few years.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/your-ultimate-guide-to-2016-afl-preseason-and-rookie-drafts/news-story/ef44171cf2c1c3c3f98696d95c53a3b7
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Second-chance saloon: The most likely 2016 rookies
AFL.com.au
27 November 2016
HOPE is not lost for the players who missed out in Friday night's NAB AFL Draft.
The rookie and pre-season drafts will run on Monday afternoon and give more opportunities to those who were overlooked. Here are 10 possible rookies who may see their name called.
Jonty Scharenberg
Midfielder
183cm/81kg
28/8/98
Glenelg/SA
It was a bit of a surprise that Scharenberg wasn't picked in the national intake. However the inside midfielder should get a go as a rookie after a relatively consistent season at under-18 level for South Australia and in the SANFL. The younger brother of Collingwood defender Matt, Scharenberg is good in tight with his hands and can distribute the ball well out of stoppages.
Cameron Zurhaar
Forward
187cm/89kg
22/5/98
East Fremantle/WA
The West Australian may appeal as a medium forward who can clunk marks on the lead and is competitive whenever the ball is in his area. Zurhaar plays with some physicality and bounce, which makes him have an impact around the ball, and he's able to use his frame to manoeuvre himself in stoppages and get the ball going his side's way. His 'in-between' size may have been a factor in why he slipped through on Friday night.
Oscar Junker
Midfielder
191cm/84kg
23/1/98
Western Jets/Vic Metro
Junker had gathered some interest from clubs as a late selection in the national draft so it would seem unlikely he doesn't get a go on Monday at the rookie intake. The tall left-footed midfielder is a nice size and can use the ball strongly through the midfield and across the wings. He played one game for Vic Metro at the championships but his best form came in patches for the Jets at TAC Cup level. He would be a good choice as a rookie.
Sam Walker
Defender
185cm/79kg
16/3/98
Glenelg/SA
Walker was pretty unlucky not to get a go on Friday night given some of his form throughout 2016. The All Australian defender from South Australia was a consistent stopper this year and also showed some dash at times out of defence. He was linked to some clubs as a possible second-round selection so it was a surprise he did not find a home, but he would seem a good chance to get a lifeline on Monday.
Hamish Brayshaw
Midfielder
186cm/85kg
9/2/98
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Unfortunately injury didn't help Brayshaw's cause this season. He injured his foot at the start of the year and then played with a crack in the foot towards the end of the season. He led the Sandringham Dragons to their flag win, and is a tough and combative midfielder with upside. He can also go forward and kick goals, a little like his brother Angus, the Melbourne midfielder. Brayshaw had surgery at the end of the season to fix his foot so if he gets a chance will be starting off a little later.
Matt Guelfi
Midfielder
183cm/77kg
14/8/97
Claremont/WA
Guelfi is an inside midfielder who has a real attack on the contest. He's aggressive and tough, and enjoyed a strong start to the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships for Western Australia. He can perhaps lack that breakaway speed and pace, which may be a reason he did not get a chance on a senior list, but as a rookie he would be able to come in and play a role reasonably early. He is also a year older than most draftees having played as a 19-year-old this season.
Kym LeBois
Small forward
173cm/68kg
25/5/98
North Adelaide/SA
LeBois has some excellent bloodlines, being the nephew of former AFL players Gavin Wanganeen and Alwyn and Aaron Davey. He plays a little similar to Alwyn as a small forward who can dart around the packs and make something out of nothing. He has a good step out of trouble that opens up space and he's generally damaging around goal when he gets a chance. His size has worked against him, but he should have done enough to get a chance as a rookie.
Mitchell Hinge
Defender
187cm/79kg
26/6/98
Glenelg/SA
In the eyes of some recruiters Hinge was one of the most unlucky players to not get a shot. His size and athleticism as a rebounding, intercepting half-back caught the eye at times through the year. He is a good mark overhead and can be trusted to kick-start things out of defence by foot.
Zach Sproule
Tall forward/defender
196cm/89kg
12/4/98
Murray Bushrangers/NSW-ACT
The GWS academy product didn't get a chance via the national draft but may appeal as a rookie selection. Sproule's best attribute is that he can play at either end, and he is also an excellent long-distance runner so is able to move up and down the ground. Sproule is a nice, long kick for goal when stationed in attack but may be best suited to defence in a negating role. The Giants nominated him as an academy pick but did not take him at the draft.
Tony Olango
Ruckman
197cm/82kg
2/9/98
St Marys/NT
Tim English and Sean Darcy were the only pure ruckmen to get a shot on Friday, showing that clubs tend to prefer to trade for rucks or take them as rookies if they can. That may open the door for Olango to get a shot after showing great athleticism and improvement across the year. The NT prospect is a strong leap and has added some muscle to his frame, plus he is quite good with the ball in his hands at avoiding traffic and being solid by foot.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-27/secondchance-saloon-the-most-likely-2016-rookies
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
Zach Sproule fits that bill.
Is perilously close to 200cm, do you know if he has stopped growing?
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
Zach Sproule fits that bill.
Is perilously close to 200cm, do you know if he has stopped growing?
He fits the "almost over 200cm" profile so hopefully they do their due diligence
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Word on Sproule is that he suffers from a severe lack of intensity - to the point that he even makes Vickery look like a competitive beast...which if true, basically makes him another Jayden Post...
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Word on Sproule is that he suffers from a severe lack of intensity - to the point that he even makes Vickery look like a competitive beast...which if true, basically makes him another Jayden Post...
Well we do need to replace Vickery........
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Word on Sproule is that he suffers from a severe lack of intensity - to the point that he even makes Vickery look like a competitive beast...which if true, basically makes him another Jayden Post...
Well we do need to replace Vickery........
:clapping :clapping
I reckon we take Scharenburg if he's there at our pick (will be very surprised)
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Word on Sproule is that he suffers from a severe lack of intensity - to the point that he even makes Vickery look like a competitive beast...which if true, basically makes him another Jayden Post...
Not doubting that as he was overlooked in the ND but who's word?
Watched him in the curtain raiser at the G and wouldn't have said he lacked intensity let alone severely.
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
Zach Sproule fits that bill.
Is perilously close to 200cm, do you know if he has stopped growing?
He fits the "almost over 200cm" profile so hopefully they do their due diligence
Being from Albury, NSW, he also fits the "going home" factor.
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Brayshaw for mine, quality individual and a good size, has been through the Sandringham Dragons system so knows what is what
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I would actually take Jake Barrett from GWS. He has been killing it in the NEAFL over the last couple of years. Bigger, stronger and faster than Miles.
I think he is the best player available IMHO.
we might as well take Bling back too seeing he has been killing in the NEAFL...but on the serious side, Raf Clarke should be able to give us all the good oil on gthe NEAFL and if we should target someone.
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Xavier Richards likely to go to Essendon.
Geelong and Adelaide are set to secure father-sons Sam Simpson and Ben Jarman respectively.
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A raft of halfback flankers are available on Monday. Mitch Hinge, Sam Walker, Bailey Morrish and Jack Henry should all find their ways onto a league list.
Oscar McInerney, 22, is the standout ruck prospect. The 204cm Montrose lad won the league medal in the VFL reserves, playing for Melbourne’s affiliate Casey Scorpions.
Hamish Brayshaw, the brother of Melbourne hard nut Angus, is also a chance to find a home.
GWS academy prospect Zach Sproule will appeal as a 196cm swingman.
Kym LeBois shapes as the most promising small forward. The Ceduna kid is the nephew of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin Wanganeen as well as brothers Alwyn and Aaron Davey.
LeBois plays in the Davey mould but stands only 173cm.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jonty-scharenberg-heads-list-of-prospects-available-in-rookie-draft-ben-jarman-set-to-land-at-adelaide/news-story/ebff37ed24c33238de5d6574f07cdf46
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Xavier Richards likely to go to Essendon.
Geelong and Adelaide are set to secure father-sons Sam Simpson and Ben Jarman respectively.
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A raft of halfback flankers are available on Monday. Mitch Hinge, Sam Walker, Bailey Morrish and Jack Henry should all find their ways onto a league list.
Oscar McInerney, 22, is the standout ruck prospect. The 204cm Montrose lad won the league medal in the VFL reserves, playing for Melbourne’s affiliate Casey Scorpions.
Hamish Brayshaw, the brother of Melbourne hard nut Angus, is also a chance to find a home.
GWS academy prospect Zach Sproule will appeal as a 196cm swingman.
Kym LeBois shapes as the most promising small forward. The Ceduna kid is the nephew of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin Wanganeen as well as brothers Alwyn and Aaron Davey.
LeBois plays in the Davey mould but stands only 173cm.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jonty-scharenberg-heads-list-of-prospects-available-in-rookie-draft-ben-jarman-set-to-land-at-adelaide/news-story/ebff37ed24c33238de5d6574f07cdf46
at that height he is as good as ours
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Xavier Richards likely to go to Essendon.
Geelong and Adelaide are set to secure father-sons Sam Simpson and Ben Jarman respectively.
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A raft of halfback flankers are available on Monday. Mitch Hinge, Sam Walker, Bailey Morrish and Jack Henry should all find their ways onto a league list.
Oscar McInerney, 22, is the standout ruck prospect. The 204cm Montrose lad won the league medal in the VFL reserves, playing for Melbourne’s affiliate Casey Scorpions.
Hamish Brayshaw, the brother of Melbourne hard nut Angus, is also a chance to find a home.
GWS academy prospect Zach Sproule will appeal as a 196cm swingman.
Kym LeBois shapes as the most promising small forward. The Ceduna kid is the nephew of 1993 Brownlow Medallist Gavin Wanganeen as well as brothers Alwyn and Aaron Davey.
LeBois plays in the Davey mould but stands only 173cm.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jonty-scharenberg-heads-list-of-prospects-available-in-rookie-draft-ben-jarman-set-to-land-at-adelaide/news-story/ebff37ed24c33238de5d6574f07cdf46
at that height he is as good as ours
Only if the Bulldogs don't pounce first :snidegrin
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My 3 cents worth in this...I would love the club to throw the dice with Tony Olango
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We really need another ready to go KPP more than anything - preferably a defender, though one that can play both ends would certainly be handy...
Zach Sproule fits that bill.
Is perilously close to 200cm, do you know if he has stopped growing?
He fits the "almost over 200cm" profile so hopefully they do their due diligence
Being from Albury, NSW, he also fits the "going home" factor.
LOL
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Would be happy with one of Lebois, sharenberg, Hinge, Sproule or Olango
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My 3 cents worth in this...I would love the club to throw the dice with Tony Olango
I agree with this.
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It would certainly address Chol's 'go home' profile issue. ;)
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It would certainly address Chol's 'go home' profile issue. ;)
Excellent point!
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Ok here we go......
Essendon is up first
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Essendon - Sam Draper
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Richmond Tyson Stengle
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Who went before him?
How many stuffing small forwards do we stuffing need?
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Le Bois to Carlton pick 5 then us
Mzungu to GWS
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Alex silvagni to Carlton
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Who went before him?
How many stuffing small forwards do we stuffing need?
looks like there is a common theme this year.
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Junker to north. Petrie to wc
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Le Bois to Carlton pick 5 then us
Mzungu to GWS
Who else? Richards? Scharenberg?
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Le Bois to Carlton pick 5 then us
Mzungu to GWS
Who else? Richards? Scharenberg?
Not selected yet
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:facepalm
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No Richards looks like he may have goofed by leaving the swans
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Well, thats it
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No Richards looks like he may have goofed by leaving the swans
Didn't help his cause by publicly stating he didn't care if he didn't get picked up again.....still would've taken him... was holding is own in finals only two months ago....well at least the two that Sydney won...
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Anyone think we're taking a leaf out of Footscray's book? Looking for the next Johanneson perhaps?
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Why would we keep drafting small fwds when our kpp depth is so poor?
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Anyone think we're taking a leaf out of Footscray's book? Looking for the next Johanneson perhaps?
Bolton = Johanneson
Stengle = Daniel ???
We know Dimma loved to copy....
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Yeah something like that....or it's the list managers forcing Halfstep's hand on the gameplan by flooding the list with quick creative smalls... :shh
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
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Petrie to West Coast...
Surprised Mitch Brown wasn't picked up...
Coach will be peed that no-one gave Sarge another shot... :shh
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Why would we keep drafting small fwds when our kpp depth is so poor?
From all accounts next year's draft is strong on KPPs, so we have loaded up picks to target them then. No point picking up KPP players just for the sake of having another on the list. You need to assess them as being up to it first.
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
Flabbergasted he went unpicked. Obviously had his flaws but he could have been a handy inside mid. Maybe concerns over his body?
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
this is probably why you are not employed as a recruiter,
just saying....
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
this is probably why you are not employed as a recruiter,
just saying....
Yeah well I admit I'm no Francis Jackson....
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
this is probably why you are not employed as a recruiter,
just saying....
Care to elaborate on where he got it wrong?
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Watched Atley & Scharenberg closely and could hardly tell the difference between them with regards to playing style, build and abilty - maybe Atley was half a yard quicker but neither were quick - yet Atley went at 32 while Scharenberg remained undrafted...go figure...
this is probably why you are not employed as a recruiter,
just saying....
Yeah well I admit I'm no Francis Jackson....
you might be onto a new career move for yourself. When you go to your first interview just repeat the above line and you will get hired on the spot :)
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I'd imagine every aspiring AFL recruiter already opens with that line...
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No Brown or Richards. Surprised.
Richards I thought was worth a shot in any side.
Brown at least as a rookie for KPD depth.
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Why would we keep drafting small fwds when our kpp depth is so poor?
From all accounts next year's draft is strong on KPPs, so we have loaded up picks to target them then. No point picking up KPP players just for the sake of having another on the list. You need to assess them as being up to it first.
you make a good point there, i am inclined to judge this Draft after next yrs & combine them & see how we have done.
clearly we'll be going talls next yr.
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No Brown or Richards. Surprised.
Richards I thought was worth a shot in any side.
Brown at least as a rookie for KPD depth.
When you are in our position as a side and list you don't draft for depth. In fact IMO you should always draft players that have the potential to improve to be better than others already in our best 22.
We went wrong for years being conservative.
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Brown and Richards would've both been upgrades on the likes of Astbury....hell..Richards can play both ends and would've been a upgrade on Griffiths as well...not to mention Elton..
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Brown and Richards would've both been upgrades on the likes of Astbury....hell..Richards can play both ends and would've been a upgrade on Griffiths as well...not to mention Elton..
It was more directed at the last comment on Brown who I don't rate. We definitely don't need another slow, injury prone defender. I think we have that coverered in Astbury like you say.
Richards is better than half our list and I would have taken in a heartbeat
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I wonder if Richards has other issues that have kept clubs away. It does seem strange no team picked him and he trained with Essendon.
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I wonder if Richards has other issues that have kept clubs away. It does seem strange no team picked him and he trained with Essendon.
Yeah he does and as I know why, I could tell you. But it's easier for me to wait for them to come out and just tell you I knew about them then
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I wonder if Richards has other issues that have kept clubs away. It does seem strange no team picked him and he trained with Essendon.
Yeah he does and as I know why, I could tell you. But it's easier for me to wait for them to come out and just tell you I knew about them then
Where is Oxana then? ;D
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I wonder if Richards has other issues that have kept clubs away. It does seem strange no team picked him and he trained with Essendon.
Yeah he does and as I know why, I could tell you. But it's easier for me to wait for them to come out and just tell you I knew about them then
:lol
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hmm it seems to me that just as many talls and ruckmen were taken this year as there have been in any other yr.
FMD JUST ABOUT EVERY CLUB TOOK A JUNIOR RUCK OR RUCK/FWD IN THE ND OR ROOKIE DRAFTS.
What a rabble to have just 3 nd picks and 1 rookie pick it is mind boggling stuff.
There is no excuse either we had 20 blokes up for contract renewal what 2 3 months ago and we kept almost the lot of them.
The only conclusion is they in their madness truly think we can challenge for a flag the lack of change after such an abysmal yr is also mind boggling.
Its flag or bust time fellas.
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hmm it seems to me that just as many talls and ruckmen were taken this year as there have been in any other yr.
FMD JUST ABOUT EVERY CLUB TOOK A JUNIOR RUCK OR RUCK/FWD IN THE ND OR ROOKIE DRAFTS.
What a rabble to have just 3 nd picks and 1 rookie pick it is mind boggling stuff.
There is no excuse either we had 20 blokes up for contract renewal what 2 3 months ago and we kept almost the lot of them.
The only conclusion is they in their madness truly think we can challenge for a flag the lack of change after such an abysmal yr is also mind boggling.
Its flag or bust time fellas.
Stability. :shh
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Swanettes got 2 blokes I would've liked - Darcy Cameron in the National draft and Robbie Fox from Coburg in the rookie draft, a poor man's J.P. Kennedy to back up the genuine article. Shrewd. :shh
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hmm it seems to me that just as many talls and ruckmen were taken this year as there have been in any other yr.
FMD JUST ABOUT EVERY CLUB TOOK A JUNIOR RUCK OR RUCK/FWD IN THE ND OR ROOKIE DRAFTS.
What a rabble to have just 3 nd picks and 1 rookie pick it is mind boggling stuff.
There is no excuse either we had 20 blokes up for contract renewal what 2 3 months ago and we kept almost the lot of them.
The only conclusion is they in their madness truly think we can challenge for a flag the lack of change after such an abysmal yr is also mind boggling.
Its flag or bust time fellas.
It's bust time for Hardwick. Bottom 4 finish coming up. Bottom 6 at best