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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 08, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
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The only injury from today appears to be Floss' broken nose & concussion.
Fire away with your changes?
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Griff in for Elton
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No change
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I still think we need Miles in the side somewhere, if Vlaustun doesn't get up then it would be a straight swap but if he's fine I just don't know who comes out for him?
I would have said Lambert last week but he's made amends this week!
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Mcbean for Elton
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Out: Caddy. Elton
In: Miles. Matthew Richardson
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Mcbean for Elton
What about Grigg & Houli?
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Out:- Elton
IN:- veterinary sweepings
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Mcbean for Elton
McBean kicked 6 on Friday night for Glenelg
Stood on a few heads as well😉
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What's clean knees Hughes doing these days
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What's clean knees Hughes doing these days
I assume Cleve Hughes ?
Kicked 5 for Doutta Stars yesterday
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What's clean knees Hughes doing these days
I assume Cleve Hughes ?
Kicked 5 for Doutta Stars yesterday
Let's sign him up then
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What's clean knees Hughes doing these days
I assume Cleve Hughes ?
Kicked 5 for Doutta Stars yesterday
Let's sign him up then
Ah no
Looks a shadow of himself does Cleever
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Let's bring in Chol.
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Let's bring in Chol.
why ?, he was terrible in the half I saw yesterday, still suffering from the knock last week ?
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Let's bring in Chol.
why ?, he was terrible in the half I saw yesterday, still suffering from the knock last week ?
Dunno but if his current output is the same as Elton, it's a question of who we want to develop and who is more likely to be a better CHF/ruck option in the future.
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I still think we need Miles in the side somewhere, if Vlaustun doesn't get up then it would be a straight swap but if he's fine I just don't know who comes out for him?
I would have said Lambert last week but he's made amends this week!
Agree Lambert played a much better game against the Eagles and deserves to retain his place.
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Let's bring in Chol.
why ?, he was terrible in the half I saw yesterday, still suffering from the knock last week ?
Dunno but if his current output is the same as Elton, it's a question of who we want to develop and who is more likely to be a better CHF/ruck option in the future.
Not its about winning this year
Can't forever be looking 5 years ahead
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Mcbean for Elton
McBean kicked 6 on Friday night for Glenelg
Stood on a few heads as well😉
Playing at his level, will star in the SANFL :snidegrin
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Still ahead of Chol. :shh
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If Griff is fit he will come in for Elton
That'll be it or should be
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Mcbean for Elton
McBean kicked 6 on Friday night for Glenelg
Stood on a few heads as well😉
Playing at his level
Unlike elton
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edwards fit?? if so lennon is gone and so is elton for freakin griff!!!
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edwards fit?? if so lennon is gone and so is elton for freakin griff!!!
Edwards was at least a two week injury so he will not be available. Griff will be interesting. Wouldn't surprise me to see him miss a few weeks.
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Bring in Will Minson
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Rest Prestia and bring in Miles
Griffiths in for Elton
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I think Lennon is going ok, should be given more games IMHO, plays with intensity, competes ok and a better than average kick
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Ch7 news reported that Prestia went in a for scan today on his knee . Been suffering knee soreness
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Miles for Prestia, keep elton in
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Rest Prestia bring in Miles. No other changes. Elton performed at Griff's level with no previous AFL games this season (including preseason). Give him a chance instead of rushing to bring a dud in
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Ch7 news reported that Prestia went in a for scan today on his know. Been suffering knee soreness
Not great news though I'm hoping it's behind his form the last 2 weeks because he's been pretty poor.
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Shouldn't be dropping lenin :(
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Rest Prestia bring in Miles. No other changes. Elton performed at Griff's level with no previous AFL games this season (including preseason). Give him a chance instead of rushing to bring a dud in
Elton also jarred his knee badly early but still toughed the game out. If that was Griff you wouldn't see him for 4 weeks.
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And he'd be unconscious for a while
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Probably would've jarred his head too and given him concussion
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The Barometer - Round 4
Herald-Sun
11 April 2017
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Nick Vlastuin’s broken nose aside, the Tigers emerged from a solid 11-point win over West Coast with no other obvious injury concerns. It’s hard to change a winning side but Todd Elton and Ben Lennon could be unlucky players to make way.
ON THE CUSP: Steven Morris will press for selection after a strong hitout in Richmond’s VFL trial loss against Essendon. Ben Griffiths’ recovery from concussion will be assessed.
LEO SCHLINK’S FORECAST: Richmond ventures to Brisbane on Sunday to face the Lions at the Gabba, seeking to secure a 4-0 start to a season for the first time since 1995. Damien Hardwick will again demand accountability and intensity to complement the Tigers’ attacking flair.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-whos-hot-whos-hurt-at-your-club-after-round-3/news-story/621da83614afeffa1a27f40a447d2804
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doesnt matter what elton jars...he's still crap...out this week never to be played again
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I would retain Lennon in the side. I would like to see Miles brought in but doubt they will bring him unless someone is injured.
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ON THE CUSP:[/b] Steven Morris will press for selection after a strong hitout in Richmond’s VFL trial loss against Essendon.
Errr nope
Time to continue moving forward not backwards
Morris is nowhere near our best 22
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ON THE CUSP:[/b] Steven Morris will press for selection after a strong hitout in Richmond’s VFL trial loss against Essendon.
Errr nope
Time to continue moving forward not backwards
Morris is nowhere near our best 22
Injury to Short or Conca would be the only catalyst for selection.
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ON THE CUSP:[/b] Steven Morris will press for selection after a strong hitout in Richmond’s VFL trial loss against Essendon.
Errr nope
Time to continue moving forward not backwards
Morris is nowhere near our best 22
Injury to Short or Conca would be the only catalyst for selection.
Nope, still Have Markov and Hunt before Morris :shh
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Hunt shouldn't be before anybody....
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Would play him in the ruck before hampson, at least we would get between 5-10 possessions per game
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Just watching the WCE game again.
I recon Lennon isn't far away from a breakout game. He got his hands to a lot of footy on Saturday but just didn't clunk any. His pressure when we haven't got it is much better too. We must keep playing him imo.
Also I'm amazed that people want Elton gone after one game. I've taken another look and he was ok without being great. Definitely deserves another go at it.
Outs for me- Houli (just don't rate him)
Ins- Markov
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Big note I don't understand how you can rate Elton's game as "okay without being great" yet be the biggest Griff hater on this forum (yes he's a dud I'm not here to argue that). How can a game that was pretty much comparable to Griffiths (minus a lot of metres gained, some score involvements and somewhat passable back up rucking) suddenly garner praise from you?
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Houli has been pretty good this year BT .
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In the Mix - Round 4
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
12 April 2017
RICHMOND
After one match sidelined with concussion, Ben Griffiths is likely to return against the Brisbane Lions and replace Todd Elton, who had nine possessions and three marks against West Coast in round three.
If Griffiths does not pass a final test, the Tigers also have the option of selecting tall forward Mabior Chol.
An opening might finally have presented for in-form midfielder Anthony Miles, who has been in strong VFL form (21 possessions, 13 contested, at the weekend). Midfielder Nick Vlastuin suffered a broken nose and concussion against the Eagles and Miles will be an ideal replacement if Vlastuin is not cleared to play this week.
Connor Menadue, Oleg Markov and Nathan Drummond are available in the VFL but have not done enough to force their way in, while Steven Morris played his second game back from a knee reconstruction at the weekend and was very good.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-11/in-the-mix-round-four
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On the 11am news, they had Dimma saying Griffiths was likely to miss this week as well due to concussion. That may change with 2-3 days to go but right now he's not 100% right to play. On the other hand, Vlastuin will be okay to play.
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A second week out with the same concussion....interesting.... :shh
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A second week out with the same concussion....interesting.... :shh
Why?
Not trying to be a smart you know what but why interesting
Not surprising when you think about his history
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Houli has been pretty good this year BT .
How do you rate him as a defender Mat?
I know he gets plenty of kicks (a lot from kicking it to himself when kicking in from a point) but how does he go defending an opponent in your opinion?
Do you think Markov could do his job as a defender and with more upside?
I just think with what we have seen from George, Bulter, Rioli and Short with their tackling pressure we could do better at that than Houli. We are a different team now with that sort of pressure, let's get even better by replacing the likes of Houli. Our backline with Ellis and Houli is imo far to weak. Do you agree with that?
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A second week out with the same concussion....interesting.... :shh
Why?
Not trying to be a smart you know what but why interesting
Not surprising when you think about his history
Exactly WP, it's his history. Dimma said the reason why is that Griffiths has had 4 concussions in the past 5 years. That's why we are being cautious with him. He won't play until he is 100% right.
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Big note I don't understand how you can rate Elton's game as "okay without being great" yet be the biggest Griff hater on this forum (yes he's a dud I'm not here to argue that). How can a game that was pretty much comparable to Griffiths (minus a lot of metres gained, some score involvements and somewhat passable back up rucking) suddenly garner praise from you?
I just think he competed well for a 5th gamer.
I've seen enough of Griffiths to never want to see him again.
I'd just like to see players like Elton and Lennon get a block of games in a row to be able to make a decent call on them. Wouldn't you or would you just prefer to see Griff bump his head more??
We are a much different side this year and players like Griff don't deserve to be there. He has had more than enough chances and if he keeps finishing games on the bench he isn't helping anyone including himself.
It's time to look for someone else who can potentially become more consistent in that roll. Elton will never be a superstar but from the very little I've seen of him at AFL level, I think he deserves the chance.
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A second week out with the same concussion....interesting.... :shh
Why?
Not trying to be a smart you know what but why interesting
Not surprising when you think about his history
Exactly WP, it's his history. Dimma said the reason why is that Griffiths has had 4 concussions in the past 5 years. That's why we are being cautious with him. He won't play until he is 100% right.
If it's taking him at least a fortnight to recover from a concussion then maybe it's time he started considering his options...and maybe that's just what he's doing..... :shh
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A second week out with the same concussion....interesting.... :shh
Why?
Not trying to be a smart you know what but why interesting
Not surprising when you think about his history
Exactly WP, it's his history. Dimma said the reason why is that Griffiths has had 4 concussions in the past 5 years. That's why we are being cautious with him. He won't play until he is 100% right.
If it's taking him at least a fortnight to recover from a concussion then maybe it's time he started considering his options...and maybe that's just what he's doing..... :shh
GRIFFITHS 'REALLY POSITIVE'
RICHMOND has dismissed any doubts over utility Ben Griffiths' long-term future as he continues his recovery from another concussion.
Griffiths missed the Tigers' clash with West Coast on Saturday after suffering another head knock against Collingwood in Round 2 and is "doubtful" to travel to Brisbane this weekend as the club takes a cautious approach.
The 200cm big man has sustained concussions in four of the past five seasons but coach Damien Hardwick said Griffiths was remaining positive.
"Medical staff have done all the diligent tests," Hardwick said.
"Ben himself is really positive about where he’s at. From our point of view it’s just a concern when a player gets a concussion. I think as you know the AFL handles that as well as anyone in the world really. So we’ll be very cautious with that but from our point of view he’s fine."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/6a95eac2a0c5e55c4289830988c89b19
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Houli has been pretty good this year BT .
How do you rate him as a defender Mat?
I know he gets plenty of kicks (a lot from kicking it to himself when kicking in from a point) but how does he go defending an opponent in your opinion?
Do you think Markov could do his job as a defender and with more upside?
I just think with what we have seen from George, Bulter, Rioli and Short with their tackling pressure we could do better at that than Houli. We are a different team now with that sort of pressure, let's get even better by replacing the likes of Houli. Our backline with Ellis and Houli is imo far to weak. Do you agree with that?
I thought Bachar was a little rusty in round 1 but getting better by the week . Kicked a goal in his past 2 games - what more do you want . Not like Mark Lecras or Fasolo have kicked 10 goals on him either.
I like Markov too , he will get his chance soon enough , wont be at Houlis expense though .
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For a guy who had an interrupted pre season, Houli has been terrific last 2 weeks
👍👍
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I watched Justin Smith from Brisbane last night on SBS and have a new perspective on concussion. Poor bugger and really emotional stuff
Give Ben another week or month
His long term health is more important then whether we think he should play or not
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Big note I don't understand how you can rate Elton's game as "okay without being great" yet be the biggest Griff hater on this forum (yes he's a dud I'm not here to argue that). How can a game that was pretty much comparable to Griffiths (minus a lot of metres gained, some score involvements and somewhat passable back up rucking) suddenly garner praise from you?
I just think he competed well for a 5th gamer.
I've seen enough of Griffiths to never want to see him again.
I'd just like to see players like Elton and Lennon get a block of games in a row to be able to make a decent call on them. Wouldn't you or would you just prefer to see Griff bump his head more??
We are a much different side this year and players like Griff don't deserve to be there. He has had more than enough chances and if he keeps finishing games on the bench he isn't helping anyone including himself.
It's time to look for someone else who can potentially become more consistent in that roll. Elton will never be a superstar but from the very little I've seen of him at AFL level, I think he deserves the chance.
Bumping head aside, I'm on the keep Elton in and Griff out bandwagon as well based on what we've both said essentially. However I'm not going to start praising his game as "ok". He needs to improve, a lot.
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Out:
Vlastuin (nose/concussion)
Prestia (knee/rest)
In:
Miles
Lloyd
Lloyd isn't soft, Miles certainly isn't. Brisbane tougher than they look.
And fwiw Grigg has been very serviceable from what I have seen at the last two games. Keep him in the side 100%.