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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: (•))(©™ on July 04, 2017, 09:32:50 PM
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Or did running kids step up, ones with more balls?
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No, no we didn't.....just like last year when we won 2 from 12 when he played and 6 from 10 when he didn't...... :shh
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Wholi?
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:scream :scream
The kids are faster, better and committed.
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If his replacement was Markov - yes .
I'm not anti Markov in anyway - but Houli - like half of his team mates is in career best form .
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Dumb thread, Houli is a much more accomplished player. The only thing some of the dunderheads here can't seem to comprehend is that Houli has a ceiling and Markov types are an unknown quantity.
Right now Houli >> Markov.
5 years Markov MAY be >> Houli right now.
I like the kid a LOT.
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The main question was whether we missed him the other night and we clearly didn't. :shh
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Didn't miss seeing him pulling out of contests avoiding any sort of contact play.
Did miss the new backhanded fist knocking out a player early in the game play. .
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Markov muffed almost everything he touched on Saturday.
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If you look at our kick ins in the first half - absolutely, structure completely broke down - then without doubt we certainly did
It improved after half time but it still wasn't great.
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Sorry guys I reckon we do miss him.Say what you like about him avoiding contact,but he runs and carrys with ball and creates and his kicks hit targets 80% of the time.
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We did miss his run and carry for sure. But I believe in time markov will be able to do it better and he's a lot harder at the ball. I suppose a lot of the running half back types aren't exactly the toughest so their speciality is the ability to run the ball and hit targets.. houli has some shocking turnovers and decision making but for the most part he does this well
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I am happy to keep giving games to Oleg. He looked underdone last weekend as he didn't play the previous week. He is harder at the contest and just needs to get used to the pace of the game. Houli does give us run and has many metres gained but for someone so experienced, he makes some crucial mistakes and is soft.
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We've all seen Oleg play much better than he did on the weekend.
Honestly felt like we didn't miss him, our run and carry was as good as it's been this season imo
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You all talk about his run and carry but he does stuff all of that really.
It's what you THINK he does.
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Could also be what you THINK he doesn't do...
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Could also be what you THINK he doesn't do...
It's funny YOU should say that
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Didn't miss seeing him pulling out of contests avoiding any sort of contact play.
Did miss the new backhanded fist knocking out a player early in the game play. .
Add to that we didn't miss his turnovers
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Im not anti Markov but
Oleg against Port - 9 disposals
Bachar against Carlton- 28 disposals.
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Im not anti Markov but
Oleg against Port - 9 disposals
Bachar against Carlton- 28 disposals.
And it is worse than that...
Oleg against Port - 9 disposals @ 44% eff, O marks, 1 tackle
Bachar against Carlton- 28 disposals @92.9% eff, 9 marks, 5 tackles.
Did we miss Houli?
Maybe not but the side would have been better for his inclusion.
:cheers
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The defense rests .
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If you look at our kick ins in the first half - absolutely, structure completely broke down - then without doubt we certainly did
It improved after half time but it still wasn't great.
Some of Short's options were questionable but he usually shares kick-in duties with Houli anyway and Houli's kick-in options are often questionable as well, I'd also argue the main reason our structure broke down in the first half because Trengove & Dixon double-teamed Rance out of the game.
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Im not anti Markov but
Oleg against Port - 9 disposals
Bachar against Carlton- 28 disposals.
And it is worse than that...
Oleg against Port - 9 disposals @ 44% eff, O marks, 1 tackle
Bachar against Carlton- 28 disposals @92.9% eff, 9 marks, 5 tackles.
Did we miss Houli?
Maybe not but the side would have been better for his inclusion.
:cheers
Stop the press: 29 year-old in his 158th game had better stats in comfortable home win v bottom 4 side with a man down for most of the match than 20 year-old in his 12th game did in hard fought away win v top 4 side at full-strength.... :clapping
The defense rests .
The defence had a nice rest from having to defend Houli's turnovers....
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I see Houli as a spillage crumbing back.
His run is often negated by his disposal turnover rate.
Hasn't had a bad seasn but the future isn't him
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Why are many of the posters comparing Oleg to Houli?
Oleg did not play Houli's run and carry role, he played a close marking defenders . (something that Houli is incapable of doing)
At one stage Edwards had Houli's role and it switched as the game progressed.
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Why are many of the posters comparing Oleg to Houli?
Oleg did not play Houli's run and carry role, he played a close marking defenders . (something that Houli is incapable of doing)
At one stage Edwards had Houli's role and it switched as the game progressed.
Coz Markov more or less took Houli's spot. And Markov should be a run and carry player. He's a gazelle. No one is having a crack at Markov, he's a got a huge ceiling. Just some think Houli is better replaced by a dish cloth - which is rubbish. Houli's a decent contributor, just has some deficiencies.
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Houli is good to have, to bring back if one of the kids gets injured
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Gee wiz this if funny stuff
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So who here honestly believes we would've won by more had Houli been playing?
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Not me
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I see Houli as a spillage crumbing back.
His run is often negated by his disposal turnover rate.
Hasn't had a bad seasn but the future isn't him
Pretty much sums it up for me.
I've liked his run and carry but his turnovers and panic merchant abilities negate those much like Bellis.
Though by having an opinion on Bachar its bigotry whilst Bellis fair game :huh
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Missed Houli :lol
We beat a side above us on the ladder, interstate, when we had something to play for.
Yer that happens all the time. :shh
No doubt Houli is ok when he has the footy but as a defender he is absolutely putrid.
If we had any brains we would try and trade him out at the end of the year and hopefully play against him.
And for those people comparing Markov's game just because he was replaced Houli in the side, get a clue.
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Why are many of the posters comparing Oleg to Houli?
Oleg did not play Houli's run and carry role, he played a close marking defenders . (something that Houli is incapable of doing)
At one stage Edwards had Houli's role and it switched as the game progressed.
Yep we have a kid who will actually defend a player and do it well. Given time he will develop the attacking side of his game and with the attributes he has he should be a very damaging player.
Personally give me well rounded players who can defend and attack when the opportunity arises.
I know its not a good idea to take stats in isolation but as far as rebound goes we had a season high against P/A.
Houlis primary role is to provide a bit of run and use the ball well coming out seems that was not missed at all.
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
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Gee we missed Houli this week, missed his run and carry and cool head and his magnificent luxurious beard
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Gee we missed Houli this week, missed his run and carry and cool head and his magnificent luxurious beard
Is that beard actually made of hair though or is it some kind of stick on Lego thing? I swear it never moves.
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I believe it is the conditioner he uses, adds body and strength, will take a direct punch from Manny Pacquiao
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
Claw problem with you every player has to be star.Markov got a go last week what happen below par.You keep on saying give Chol a game Moore etc ,but you don't gift games it's got to be based on form.
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
Claw problem with you every player has to be star.Markov got a go last week what happen below par.You keep on saying give Chol a game Moore etc ,but you don't gift games it's got to be based on form.
lol were down by 80 points at halftime and your conclusion is were missing Houli for the kickouts....
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
Claw problem with you every player has to be star.Markov got a go last week what happen below par.You keep on saying give Chol a game Moore etc ,but you don't gift games it's got to be based on form.
Well, if its based on form Riewoldt should be given the arse this week and Chol and Moore should come in. Come to think of it there should be about 18 changes this week.
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
Claw problem with you every player has to be star.Markov got a go last week what happen below par.You keep on saying give Chol a game Moore etc ,but you don't gift games it's got to be based on form.
lol were down by 80 points at halftime and your conclusion is were missing Houli for the kickouts....
I was referring to both games as a whole we have missed him and at the moment no one to replace him who Hunt ?.If you can't see we have missed his run and carry last 2 weeks in the backline your blind as a bat.
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Say again we miss bigtime his run and carry even through sometimes his kicking is down no one to replace him in his role 2 weeks in row.
What bulderdash if anything we lacked accountability more than anything and Houli is never going to bring that to the table.
When the in your face pressure is returned who fails more than most xoh thats right softie HOULI.When will it ever sink in glass half fulls are exactly that When are we ever going to aim for something more than 50%.
Claw problem with you every player has to be star.Markov got a go last week what happen below par.You keep on saying give Chol a game Moore etc ,but you don't gift games it's got to be based on form.
Well, if its based on form Riewoldt should be given the arse this week and Chol and Moore should come in. Come to think of it there should be about 18 changes this week.
While I agree there a senior players that should be dropped keep it in reality Jack is far from it.His got enough runs on the board to suggest that is silly.It's easy to say bring Moore and Chol in but Moore is returning from injury and Chol showed nothing this season.