One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Captain__Blood on February 26, 2006, 02:30:35 AM
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Reasons?
He's still only 19 going on 20, in his second year with just 2 senior games + a preseason game under his belt. Talls typically take longer to develop.
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He is also playing out of position , needs to start playing more in the ruck...
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Reasons?
- Lacks natural footbal talent. Was drafted more on determination.
- Turning circle of a tanker. Not mobile enough to play CHF[/li]
He's still only 19 going on 20, in his second year with just 2 senior games + a preseason game under his belt. Talls typically take longer to develop.
I relsie this. Just get the impression he won't make it.
Lets hope im off the mark.
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IMV far to early to say but I think like HarryB said he should be thrown in the ruck to get him into the game. He seemed a bit lost at CHF yesterday, although it didn't help that he got ignored so much by the blokes up the field.
And can anyone explain to me why on couple of occassions in the second he had to play crumber when the ball hit the ground? Where were the little fellas
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im worried about patto, but will be patient.
he seems to have the goods, when he gets the ball, its just he seems lost out there. maybe its not his fault, he was ignored many times yesterday when on the lead, he looked good below his knees. i just think he needs just 1 game for things to go right 4 him and he will be on the way
until that happens i will be worried.
i have more faith in him than meyer cos at least patto has the right attitude and work ethic.
o'connor told me yesterday patto is ready and will be gr8, as will jay!
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Meyer is probably peeed off coz he knows hes better than about 7 other blokes in the side who get regular games. I also prefer Hughes to Pattison...and thats from seeing Hughes in CB Cup last year. Way more mobile, better kick. We have Simmonds, Stafford for Ruck duties and Id almost put young Angus infront of him as well. Young Patto needs to be more mobile, more pro active, he needs to smash afew packs. Show us he wants a place in footy. Show us he belongs!
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Meyer is probably peeed off coz he knows hes better than about 7 other blokes in the side who get regular games. I also prefer Hughes to Pattison...and thats from seeing Hughes in CB Cup last year. Way more mobile, better kick. We have Simmonds, Stafford for Ruck duties and Id almost put young Angus infront of him as well. Young Patto needs to be more mobile, more pro active, he needs to smash afew packs. Show us he wants a place in footy. Show us he belongs!
No offence, but I tihnk you have very little idea.
Graham both the skinniest and worst kick I have ever seen.
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So what... i see pattison running around looking as though he cant get the pill. lets try what we got, if graham is no good either then he wont make it either. the only thing that i know at this stage is that the percentages of Pattison making it to a good level is pretty low after what ive seen. Still, if your happy watching blokes go out onto the field and who dont look like it all...then what can i say. everyone has a view..i have mine as you have yours...mine simply is about RFC putting blokes onto the field who look capable. Do you really think Pattison looks capable at this point in time?
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Pattison was very intersted - again, not sure what game you watched. He presented very well, lots of leads, shouted his lungs out and keep working all day. He has got no respect from the boys, never gets passed to. Similar to the Inter Club match. If they actully try passing to Pato he might be a show.
Maybe I was too harsh on Patto. He is a big lump of a lad.
- Winner of TAC Cup Coaches Award 2004
- Centre Half Forward in TAC Cup Team of the Year 2004
- Northern Best and Fairest 2004
I beleive he also won the Coburg MVP for Richmond listed players last season.
It's not so much he isn't going to make it but more the fact if he does I don't see it being untill he wil 21/22 rather than a Roughead would have play AFL from the get go.
Graham has JON like arms and legs. He is a terrbile kick of the footy. I you reckon Pattison isn't up for it at this stage your going to be in for a shock if you watch Graham. 4/5/6 years ruck prosect at best. 'Very raw' is an understatment.
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Looks like we'll be looking for a couple of young ruckmen come end of 2006 lol.
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patto will bne ok, as long as they kick it to him, stafford is all but gone, patto is just 1 game away from showing what he is made of,
meyer has no heart nor attitdue from what i hear, maybe they should play him so his lil frame can get polaxed
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The problem with Patto is he doesn't appear to be either a bona fide ruckman or CHF
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I know it's early days but I really can't see much to get excited about young Patto. I know the standard lines - "he's young, needs time, talls take longer etc" but you can tell by watching players whether they have something or not.
I've seen him a few times at Coburg and yes he's done well. He has courage and backs into alot of packs. However, I don't hang my hat on courage alone, heck we've had some courageous players in the past, but very limited in other areas. A tall needs to be able to read the play and most importantly be able to read the flight of the ball. IMO Patto hasn't shown much in this area. I will excuse a tall for not having very good skills but without the ability to read the play and ball, and be able to position himself well, i really don't hold much hope.
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The problem with Patto is he doesn't appear to be either a bona fide ruckman or CHF
I'm sounding like a broken record comparing Patto to Brendon Lade but Lade is no true CHF but the second ruckman/third forward who stretches backlines with his bulk, height and strong marking. In an ideal world we'll have mobile talls in Limbach and Hughes at FF and CHF respectively with Patto rotated b/w ruck and close to goal in tandem with Simmo (or Graham if he makes it).
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meyer has no heart nor attitdue from what i hear, maybe they should play him so his lil frame can get polaxed
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meyer has no heart nor attitdue from what i hear, maybe they should play him so his lil frame can get polaxed
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anyplayer at tigerland that does not have the heart and soul to be there, i will always wish them ill and bad fortune. thus if its true meyer has attitude problems cos he just does not wanna be a tiger, i hope all bad things go his way, however , if what i hear is all BS, then i wish him every success at tigerland
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Meyer must have been switched on today if he snagged 3 goals in a quarter ;).
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Meyer must have been switched on today if he snagged 3 goals in a quarter ;).
lol, he read my post! u see how much effect my opinion had on him! meyer owes me a few drinks.
btw i am not anti meyer in any way, i know he has skills to burn and has been likened to a "wanganeen" type player. i just hope he does well, and hope if and when he does, he does not go back home.
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who is meyers mentor this year? is it one of our ex-SA boys?
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who is meyers mentor this year? is it one of our ex-SA boys?
Francis Bourke is his mentor. He was also Danny's last year.
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after reading wp's review, im convinced patto will make it. his future wont be a fulltime fwd. his strength and assett is his endurance and fitness, and iirc, he is taller than simmo, thus his future is in the ruck once stafford retires. we will have 3 rotating rucks and fwds , snake, knobel and patto
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after reading wp's review, im convinced patto will make it. his future wont be a fulltime fwd. his strength and assett is his endurance and fitness, and iirc, he is taller than simmo, thus his future is in the ruck once stafford retires. we will have 3 rotating rucks and fwds , snake, knobel and patto
Source? I'd like to read it.
I dug up this:
Pattison is a good kid which is a novelty at Tigerland, speaks maturely and
has some leadership qualities.
He plays mostly as a CHF and to be honest I was scratching my head at this
selection because I can't see him being a top-notch key position player.
He is a willing worker and determined. He trys to get to a lot of contests
and hit the packs hard and in that sense is a bit reminiscent of Benny Gale
whose work at CHF didn't feature a heap of marks, normally saw a defender
hanging off him and was basically about making a contest for the benefit of
the rovers.
Pattison has good stamina and speed for a big bloke but he has no change of
direction. He plays in completely straight lines and a CHB who can weave
and baulk can exploit him easily. There is no 'flow' to his game and
sometimes his stopping and turning can be timed on a sundial. Pattison gets
most of his marks through his ability to roam around the entire front half
and the inability of opponents to find the stamina to match him.
As I scratched my head and wondered why we did not take a ruckman, a little
light bulb went off. Perhaps we did take our ruckman?
At Northern Pattison would often start outside the square and then go on
ball. He is about 196-198cm tall which is just ruck height, by ruckman
standards he has great pace, stamina, skills and ball winning ability. He
has the ability to kick goals. By CHF standards he doesn't move well, but
by ruck standards he moves extremely well. His weakness with agility won't
really be exposed in the packs of the midfield.
If we are thinking of developing him as a ruckman then it could really work
out. Wallace said he wanted a Luke Darcy style ruckman by which I am
guessing he meant one who could play as a ruck-rover and linkman, not a tap
guy so maybe they see that in Pattison. I also suspect that the message
from the football department to the recruiters was to find a key forward
who can cover a lot of ground because if the game plan is going to be based
on lots of running players then they are going to need a guy who can come
out to the wing, and then get out to the other wing.
We could have gotten a legitimate big ruckman in Wood, but obviously our
future doesn't call for that type of player. If we were after a key forward
I would have gone for Tom Murphy.