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Title: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: mat073 on October 03, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Fire away . Has a nice wife apparently.

Personally I'm really happy for him . Had to do it the hard way with all the compromised drafts.

Last year was really disappointing - but its been a pretty decent ride since 2012 .

Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 03, 2017, 04:28:28 PM
Tiger premiership coach.

What else can you say?

 :bow :bow :bow :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Post by: 🏅Dooks on October 03, 2017, 04:59:14 PM
good time for a poll - who would people rather lose to the goldcoast - Dimma or Caracella?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 03, 2017, 05:42:21 PM
good time for a poll - who would people rather lose to the goldcoast - Dimma or Caracella?
If you heard the players talk about their love for Hardwick last night, you'd have to say Caracella.

Caracella is the perfect assistant. Astute with his football knowledge. Hardwick though is the ultimate man manager.  He is the glue that holds this team together.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: mat073 on October 03, 2017, 06:03:59 PM
Hardwick opens his home to young indigenous boy .

Same boy kicks 4 goals in preliminary final.

Wonder how many boarders Ross Lyon has had ??
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 03, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
good time for a poll - who would people rather lose to the goldcoast - Dimma or Caracella?
If you heard the players talk about their love for Hardwick last night, you'd have to say Caracella.

Caracella is the perfect assistant. Astute with his football knowledge. Hardwick though is the ultimate man manager.  He is the glue that holds this team together.

Certainly was alot of love in that room last night for Hardwick

I knew the players loved him but I didn't realise how deep the bond was
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: (•))(©™ on October 03, 2017, 06:11:53 PM
He clearly has taken on a Paternal role and that's important in the development of young men.

As a tactician and understanding what was needed......No good.

Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: TigerLand on October 03, 2017, 06:18:55 PM
I think coaching will never be a 1 man job again. The appointments and the calibre of assistant coaches and the ability to compliment the skills of Hardwick was as good a catalyst as any why we won a premiership.

If you look at EPL managers they come with their own staff. I can see AFL going in similar direction where a coaching team is appointed as opposed to a single senior coach who then either inherits assistants or has to find best available.

Super stoked for Dimma, I wasn't really sold on him for a long time, questionable selections and lack of flexibility had my doubts but by all reports this year he deserves everything that comes his way. Not only proved many wrong but was good enough to fix most of the things that was holding him back to become a premiership coach.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: (•))(©™ on October 03, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
The 2017 story has ended perfectly.

I'm just gonna enjoy.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 03, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
His a premiership coach.









Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Slipper on October 03, 2017, 09:18:12 PM
Tiger premiership coach.

What else can you say?

 :bow :bow :bow :clapping :clapping :clapping

Not a lot.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on October 03, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
The 2017 story has ended perfectly.

I'm just gonna enjoy.

How stuffing good?
Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: cub on October 03, 2017, 10:18:15 PM
Lets start with we have a flag the players love him I now love him also. We play hard entertaining football which breaks teams stuffing love it!
But stuffing seriously all these freakin Einstein's that bring up last year, stuffing hell we were poohouse, like real poohouse Ive been going to nigh on every game for 37 years and last year was up there with the best in terms of disheartening rubbish, it was real hard to go and watch some weeks and got to the stage I couldn't see was going to happen this this year in a fit.
I had kinda faith that we had a nucleus of good enough players, but they either were dumb as dogshit and not listening or Dimma was being stubborn in his game plan(I went with the 2nd option).
I was screaming last year for him to just let them play.
Anyway whatever happened he needed to go 360 and however that happened it happened and oh my god I'm in heaven.
All is forgiven and he is now the messiah.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Willy on October 03, 2017, 10:20:11 PM
Well said Cub.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on October 03, 2017, 10:22:51 PM
The players love the bloke and they play for him.

The introspection, new assistants, intangibles (I've spoken of previously), support, cohesion and connection that all led to the club being 100% correct in their support of Damien and the fanatical adherence to stability.

I couldn't see it.

The club hoped and held firm the course........it worked!

I now trust the club and the coach I had lost trust in.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: yandb on October 03, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
Great team manager lousy tactician.

Balme cleaned out most of his assistants last season. (he picked his assistants)

Balme brings in a new group of assitants who are tactically savvy.

Hardwick manages the team, the assistants the tactics players play to their strengths win win win.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on October 04, 2017, 12:04:05 AM
Great team manager lousy tactician.

Balme cleaned out most of his assistants last season. (he picked his assistants)

Balme brings in a new group of assitants who are tactically savvy.

Hardwick manages the team, the assistants the tactics players play to their strengths win win win.

Disagree with this sentiment which is very apparent in this thread. I think he's about the best team manager in the competition but he's a very capable tactician. You just don't win flags unless you can read the game at an elite level.

Proved it in the grand final and throughout this year. I think he was, like many of the players in previous years, coaching to a standard and a plan that was what he felt was a premiership prototype. It was okay, but didn't get us further than the first round of the finals. Goes back and coaches how he wants to coach (and how the players want to play) and the rest is history. His team selection was fantastic for most of the year. Finding guys like Townsend and Graham - masterstrokes.

Flags: The 'Great Tactician' Ross Lyon - 0. Dimma 'Best list I've had' Hardwick - 1 (so far  :shh).
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: lamington on October 04, 2017, 02:24:00 AM
It is a hard one for me. The fact he has the players on his side is probably the most important thing. Not too different from Beveridge and how it was palpable that all Bulldogs players would.go to war for him.

My knock on Hardwick is I don't think he is a great tactician. Bringing in Hunt and Morris this year made my head explode. His treatment of Miles is appalling.

But he has a premiership in the bag and that is the most important thing and will be part of his legacy . What I will give him is that when he first arrived he did say that the team had to be precise by foot and hard tackling. He went 180 and we had shoddy kicks (Hampson and Letters and Matt Thomas) but then went 180 again with the class of 2017.

I am with Tigerland. Coaching is now a team effort and the coach can no longer be the master motivator/educator/recruiter/developer/strategist like in the past
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: mat073 on October 04, 2017, 07:53:30 PM
Not sure Lamington ....

Hunt played 1 game after the opening round .

Morris played 1 game in rd 6

Miles played 5 games but smashed it in the VFL - hes unlucky sure .

If Miles was a casualty of the recruitment of Prestia and Caddy - there were times during the home and away where it seemed ludicrous . However the form displayed by the former Suns during the finals was outstanding. 

Who does Miles come in for ??
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Chuck17 on October 04, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
Inb4 Grigg Chaplin
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Stripes on October 05, 2017, 08:56:50 PM
Must be a lot of Dimma hating flogs around here struggling this week  :snidegrin After all the hate directed at Dimma for years he has won the clubs its first flag in 37 years! He was voted Coach of the Year along the way by his peers too. He is openly revered and loved by his players, respected by his administrators and praised by the media. Yet if you were to believe all the posts on this forum it was all because of Carcella or Balme or the footstudder - anyone but the head coach.

We all make mistakes and we all had questions last year but maybe, just maybe its time for some around here to admit that he IS a good coach and he DID win us what we have been dreaming of for almost four decades.

Stability, Unity & Trust - that is what won us the 2017 flag not the 'Eat our own' mentality some around here still love to throw out at the first signs of adversity. We won because we supported Gale, O'Neill and Dimma. I pray that people learn a hard lesson from this and finally celebrate our success and those who made it happen.

I want more of this in the future and holding course and supporting the coach is the best way to get it. Dimma - you're a champion!!!  :cheers
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 05, 2017, 10:11:44 PM
Well he is no longer halfstep, he is now fullstep  :shh or Dimma to some  8)
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: yandb on October 05, 2017, 10:28:59 PM
Carracalla brought the game plan with him, Leppitch came up with the forward set up (despite Hardwick's initial opposition)

Without these two important contributions Hardwick would not have even got us to the finals.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 05, 2017, 10:36:34 PM
i couldnt give a stuff if the whole thing was orchestrated by Kim Jong-un.

bottom line is we won a stuffin FLAG. Hardwick can write his own cheque in this contract as far as im concerned

Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Stripes on October 05, 2017, 11:13:14 PM
Carracalla brought the game plan with him, Leppitch came up with the forward set up (despite Hardwick's initial opposition)

Without these two important contributions Hardwick would not have even got us to the finals.

No business, no organisation, no team can succeed with only one person doing everything. Richmond is the sum of its parts. We are not successful because of Dusty. We did not win a premiership because of Peggy. We are not the coast of the AFL World because of Gale either. We needed everything working and everyone doing their job to make this happen.'

The age of one man running a team went out not much later than when there was Captain Coaches. The job is too big. Dimma has assistant coaches for a reason. They are their to work with him to allow us to succeed. Good leaders listen to advice and learn from their mistakes. Dimma has done both of these things.

Carcella may have brought in the basis of a game plan but what we have now is unlike anything any other team has. Leppa may have urged Dimma to play another small rather than the second tall but Dimma listened (another sign of great leader).
 
Dimma is not the reason we won the flag but by f&#* he is one of the biggest reasons why we did. Damien Hardwick will always have his name in the record books and at Punt Rd as our 2017 Premiership Coach. That must really give you the sh#$%   :lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: georgies31 on October 05, 2017, 11:35:40 PM
To be honest I hear treatment of Miles etc yet he wasn't great when he come in the side and like people said who do you drop last 6 games we were so settled.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: lamington on October 05, 2017, 11:50:45 PM
Considering we dominated the finals series it is very hard for me to consider who you would drop for Miles. I feel like Miles could have come in for Castagna when when he was missing everything. Miles still averaged 4 tackles a game which is higher than Castagna's 3. I don't rate Broad that highly either.

In our loss against Sydney, Geelong, and St Kilda, I felt having Miles would've saved us. I thought it was rough to drop him after the hawthorn win considering George and Caddy miss absolute sitters all the time but ultimately the team was balanced going into finals and that's what will go down in history.

Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: georgies31 on October 06, 2017, 03:59:21 AM
I rate Broad highly.Gives us flexibility with his size tall and small.Courageous can take a grab,quick and always there to help others.Didn't concede many goals to.Did a fantastic job on Lynch.His kicking will improve.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Owl on October 06, 2017, 10:34:41 AM
what garbage, Hardwick still makes the calls from the coaches box, he still dictates the game plan.  Other coaches can suggest stuff and he can take it or leave it and they implement what Hardwick decides on.  He pulled it off, he has excellent assistant coaches and they have put together a premiership.  Give some stuffing credit where it is due ffs
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Post by: tony_montana on October 06, 2017, 10:42:04 AM
I rate Broad highly.Gives us flexibility with his size tall and small.Courageous can take a grab,quick and always there to help others.Didn't concede many goals to.Did a fantastic job on Lynch.His kicking will improve.

Broad was massive this season and the final piece of the premiership defence puzzle. Is as quick as Short but much tougher and taller giving us a lot more flexibility and relief to grimes/Astbury/Rance. Recall him chasing Cameron on the wing and went with him the whole way
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Owl on October 06, 2017, 11:02:07 AM
I am with Lamingtion, build him a friggen statue!  He resuscitated the beast that is our club and we will not let them forget the last 37 years of CRAP they have piled onto us and our club.  The man should be deified, others wilted, he persevered.  Nobody gets through without making mistakes, it is if you don't learn from them that condemns you.  We found a unique way to win a flag with what we had at our disposal, not the perfect team that everyone aims for.  THAT is the brilliance, in the military there is a saying, "adapt and overcome"  and Hardwick and co. did it with what they had, it is the same principle.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: wayne on October 06, 2017, 12:25:36 PM
He has earned another year
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 06, 2017, 01:10:16 PM
He has earned another year
Gee whiz you're generous! :lol
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: georgies31 on October 06, 2017, 02:26:46 PM
Who cares enjoy guys were premiers  :gotigers.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Diocletian on October 08, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
Fullstep..... :clapping




 :santa
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 08, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
Fullstep..... :clapping




 :santa

Thought you'd like that  :shh
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: eliminator on October 08, 2017, 03:40:00 PM
He delivered a premiership where so many others have failed. To his enormous credit he took responsibility for his failings in 2016 and sought to better himself.  Furthermore he showed he is and was prepared to listen to advice. He was persuasive in getting Leppa back. He formed a very good bond with the players and got the players playing a team oriented brand of football. I have been critical of him in the past but I will be forever grateful to him and the players for beating the premiership draught.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: eliminator on October 08, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Sorry bad spelling mistake drought not draught.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on October 08, 2017, 03:45:12 PM
He delivered a premiership where so many others have failed. To his enormous credit he took responsibility for his failings in 2016 and sought to better himself.  Furthermore he showed he is and was prepared to listen to advice. He was persuasive in getting Leppa back. He formed a very good bond with the players and got the players playing a team oriented brand of football. I have been critical of him in the past but I will be forever grateful to him and the players for beating the premiership draught.

Pretty much this.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: FooffooValve on October 08, 2017, 07:45:07 PM
Absolute Tiger hero.

Always backs his players, has taken us to finals 4 out of the past 5 years and won a premiership. So glad our very competent administration and board backed him in last year.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on October 08, 2017, 08:16:37 PM
Fullstep..... :clapping




 :santa

Thought you'd like that  :shh
I've got to say I thought he was talking absolute nonsense when he said we had to go a half step back to go forward but again he was absolutely right. In many ways 2016 defined us as a club in many ways causing the review, the introspection and connections required that eventually made us premiers this year.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: yandb on October 09, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
what garbage, Hardwick still makes the calls from the coaches box, he still dictates the game plan.  Other coaches can suggest stuff and he can take it or leave it and they implement what Hardwick decides on.  He pulled it off, he has excellent assistant coaches and they have put together a premiership.  Give some stuffing credit where it is due ffs

Hardwick's best effort at a game plan came last year and it was a steaming pile.

Carracalla came up with the game plan for this year and Lepitch came up with the forward setup, without these two important changes Hardwick would not be a premiership coach.

Hardwick's strength is he has the players loyalty and is a great people person.

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Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 09, 2017, 11:13:31 AM
what garbage, Hardwick still makes the calls from the coaches box, he still dictates the game plan.  Other coaches can suggest stuff and he can take it or leave it and they implement what Hardwick decides on.  He pulled it off, he has excellent assistant coaches and they have put together a premiership.  Give some stuffing credit where it is due ffs

Hardwick's best effort at a game plan came last year and it was a steaming pile.

Carracalla came up with the game plan for this year and Lepitch came up with the forward setup, without these two important changes Hardwick would not be a premiership coach.

Hardwick's strength is he has the players loyalty and is a great people person.

And yet I heard that Choco had a hand in last years game plan....How do we know anything for sure?

How can you still be so bitter? We just won the bloody flag! I'm still on cloud 9.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Yeahright on October 09, 2017, 11:21:31 AM
what garbage, Hardwick still makes the calls from the coaches box, he still dictates the game plan.  Other coaches can suggest stuff and he can take it or leave it and they implement what Hardwick decides on.  He pulled it off, he has excellent assistant coaches and they have put together a premiership.  Give some stuffing credit where it is due ffs

Hardwick's best effort at a game plan came last year and it was a steaming pile.

Carracalla came up with the game plan for this year and Lepitch came up with the forward setup, without these two important changes Hardwick would not be a premiership coach.

Hardwick's strength is he has the players loyalty and is a great people person.

And yet I heard that Choco had a hand in last years game plan....How do we know anything for sure?

How can you still be so bitter? We just won the bloody flag! I'm still on cloud 9.

It's amazing that people think that the assistants had nothing to do with anything unless we are winning.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: yandb on October 09, 2017, 12:53:53 PM
what garbage, Hardwick still makes the calls from the coaches box, he still dictates the game plan.  Other coaches can suggest stuff and he can take it or leave it and they implement what Hardwick decides on.  He pulled it off, he has excellent assistant coaches and they have put together a premiership.  Give some stuffing credit where it is due ffs

Hardwick's best effort at a game plan came last year and it was a steaming pile.

Carracalla came up with the game plan for this year and Lepitch came up with the forward setup, without these two important changes Hardwick would not be a premiership coach.

Hardwick's strength is he has the players loyalty and is a great people person.

And yet I heard that Choco had a hand in last years game plan....How do we know anything for sure?

How can you still be so bitter? We just won the bloody flag! I'm still on cloud 9.
Who is bitter I celebrated the win like every one else, where I draw the line is when Hardwick fans try to make up false narratives about how Hardwick was the great architect of our win.

Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: (•))(©™ on October 10, 2017, 10:44:21 AM
"We"re not a high tackle side"

Yet some still think it was his nouse that got us out of the pickel he puts in.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on October 10, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
"We"re not a high tackle side"

Yet some still think it was his nouse that got us out of the pickel he puts in.
Take your anti Hardwick agenda and move on Ox.

We just won the stuffing flag for the first time in my life.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on October 10, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
"We"re not a high tackle side"

Yet some still think it was his nouse that got us out of the pickel he puts in.
Have you ever thought that it takes even more nous to admit you were wrong and take on new ideas? :whistle
Title: Re: Thoughts on Hardwick now ??
Post by: Chuck17 on October 10, 2017, 11:57:37 AM
"We"re not a high tackle side"

Yet some still think it was his nouse that got us out of the pickel he puts in.
Have you ever thought that it takes even more nous to admit you were wrong and take on new ideas? :whistle

I think people who are always wrong will struggle with that concept