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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 02, 2018, 06:05:14 PM
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Early call but what do you think (or even hope) our best 22 in 2019 will look like?
This is The Age's Richmond side for round 1:
RICHMOND'S POTENTIAL ROUND ONE TEAM IN 2019
B: David Astbury, Alex Rance, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short, Dylan Grimes, Bachar Houli
C: Shaun Grigg, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy
HF: Shane Edwards, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Kane Lambert, Trent Cotchin
Inter (from): Kamdyn McIntosh, Nathan Broad, Jack Higgins, Dan Butler, Jack Graham, Brandon Ellis
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-02/analysis-how-will-tigers-stuff-with-lynch
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All they did was throw in lynch at chf and name an extended bench with all the regulars from this year......
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If that’s our best 22 next year we are all f$&ked
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All they did was throw in lynch at chf and name an extended bench with all the regulars from this year......
Interestingly enough, they left out Conca.... :shh
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If that’s our best 22 next year we are all stuffed
Yep, I noticed BEllis not named in the starting 18 over Houli too... :shh
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Markov in front of Houli and Grigg please?
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Your club's best 22 for 2019
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
20 Oct 2018
RICHMOND
B: Dylan Grimes, David Astbury, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Alex Rance, Nick Vlastuin
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia
HF: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Caddy
F: Daniel Rioli, Tom Lynch, Dan Butler
FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert
I/C: Jack Higgins, Jack Graham, Bachar Houli, Shaun Grigg
There aren't too many changes to the preliminary final team with just Reece Conca leaving the club all together from that starting 22. Tom Lynch is a walk-up start to the forward line, which sees Josh Caddy pushed to an attacking stuff. A fit Dan Butler squeezes in ahead of Jason Castagna, while Nathan Broad was the preferred option over Brandon Ellis in the finals and probably stays in, unless they want more run off half-back. Jacob Townsend remains out of the team and it remains to be seen if he'll get another contract at this stage, while Connor Menadue will likely stay on the fringe for the season's start.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-20/your-clubs-best-22-for-2019
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Herald-Sun's attempt:
RICHMOND
B Dylan Grimes Alex Rance Nathan Broad
HB Nick Vlastuin David Astbury Bachar Houli
C Kane Lambert Dion Prestia Kamdyn McIntosh
HF Shane Edwards Tom Lynch Daniel Rioli
F Dan Butler Jack Riewoldt Josh Caddy
Foll Toby Nankervis Dustin Martin Trent Cotchin
I/C Shaun Grigg Jack Higgins Jayden Short Jason Castagna
Next in line: Brandon Ellis, Jack Graham, Jacob Townsend, Oleg Markov, Connor Menadue, Ryan Garthwaite
AL PATON SAYS: Only an injury setback can stop Tom Lynch from lining up at centre half-forward in Round 1. The Tigers’ mini exodus has seemingly had little impact on the best 22 with premiership stars Brandon Ellis, Jack Graham and Jacob Townsend being squeezed out of our predicted line-up. Jayden Short cemented his place in the senior team this year. Will Dimma stick with the mosquito fleet underneath Lynch and Jack Riewoldt?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/check-out-who-we-think-will-be-in-your-clubs-best-22-come-round-1-next-year/news-story/486e8c83f6958cefc037c979e407409a
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Our midfield has insufficient depth.
We are in big trouble peoples.
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We really need to lay down the gauntlet to Oleg, Menadue, Callum Moore, Naish, Balta, Garrhwaite and the Sudanese Liam McBean to show up during the pre season and put some pressure on our bottom 6 because after the Prelim, there’s spots available in our 22
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Our midfield has insufficient depth.
We are in big trouble peoples.
Insufficient when we have injuries.
Dusty, Cotch, Prestia with chop outs from Caddy, Shedders and Lambert is still about the best in the comp
Very likely that Prestia misses 6 - 8 games again next year, and I’m not sure Cotch can sustain what he has been doing the last 2 years.
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Our midfield has insufficient depth.
We are in big trouble peoples.
Insufficient when we have injuries.
Dusty, Cotch, Prestia with chop outs from Caddy, Shedders and Lambert is still about the best in the comp
Very likely that Prestia misses 6 - 8 games again next year, and I’m not sure Cotch can sustain what he has been doing the last 2 years.
We need Graham, Rioli and Higgins to give us the depth Collingwood got from their no names last year
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Unless we completely stuff it up, pick 17 in this draft will probably be a ready to go mid and a good player...and someone like Mitch Grigg would be an automatic improvement on Cellis, Miles and Conca too for that matter too...wouldn't mind grabbing Weller as a DFA ....off all our smalls I'd actually like to see Castanga developed as a run with hard tackling mid who can hurt the other way with his pace, his disposal by hand isn't that bad these days either ...it would also be a huge bonus if Townsend could improve his midfield game to at least servicable at AFL level and he probably needs to if he wants to continue beyond next year...... :shh
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Our midfield has insufficient depth.
We are in big trouble peoples.
Insufficient when we have injuries.
Dusty, Cotch, Prestia with chop outs from Caddy, Shedders and Lambert is still about the best in the comp
Very likely that Prestia misses 6 - 8 games again next year, and I’m not sure Cotch can sustain what he has been doing the last 2 years.
We need Graham, Rioli and Higgins to give us the depth Collingwood got from their no names last year
exactly
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Playing 3 small forwards that cannot really play anywhere else at this stage really limits our midfield rotations.
I cannot ever see Butler playing midfield at AFL level, same really goes with George, he is a star as we all know, but imo he really doesn’t have the footy brain and composure to be a mid, and unfortunately I think Rioli will be like his uncle and not be a mid either.
Can we continue to play 3 smalls that don’t really help our mids??
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yes, composure and brains is all George lacks in terms of being a mid.....pity, because he has such wonderful foot skills. :shh
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yes, composure and brains is all George lacks in terms of being a mid.....pity, because he has such wonderful foot skills. :shh
At least he kicks the ball forward..... :shh
And gets a game..... :shh
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will pay that.....for now :shh
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Early call but what do you think (or even hope) our best 22 in 2019 will look like?
This is The Age's Richmond side for round 1:
RICHMOND'S POTENTIAL ROUND ONE TEAM IN 2019
B: David Astbury, Alex Rance, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short, Dylan Grimes, Bachar Houli
C: Shaun Grigg, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy
HF: Shane Edwards, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Kane Lambert, Trent Cotchin
Inter (from): Kamdyn McIntosh, Nathan Broad, Jack Higgins, Dan Butler, Jack Graham, Brandon Ellis
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-02/analysis-how-will-tigers-stuff-with-lynch
If this is our team in round one that we have not learned the lessons of last season.
Cotchin said that we would be looking to our younger players to drive the improvement so I hope to see the likes of Balta, Garthwaite, Naish, Markov, Bolton and CCJ given a chance to prove themselves throughout the year.
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Is Naish goi G to be up to Afl standard in 2019?
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Can't see it at this stage..... :shh
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The Phantom’s Best 22
B: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
HB: Jayden Short, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Kane Lambert, Trent Cotchin, Jack Higgins
HF: Shane Edwards, Tom Lynch, Daniel Rioli
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Caddy
1R: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia
Inter: Jack Graham, Kamdyn McIntosh, Nathan Broad, Dan Butler.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-phantoms-supercoach-stuff-is-in-the-running/news-story/e842ea94c3af4990b50a9fee4cff9fe2
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Cameron Ling at half-time had our best 22 as tonight's team with the following 3-to-4 changes:
Baker -> Stack
Soldo -> Nankervis
Butler -> Cotchin
Chol -> McIntosh ... Ling said he is a fan of Chol's so this change would depend on
whether Chol holds his form/role in the last few rounds.
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No
Yes
Yes
No
Stack definitely in just not for baker.
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Reckon had Jack Ross not got injured when he did he would be well and truly considered best 22. Think he will be our muscle man along with Graham in the guts. If Cotch doesn't come up or has another hammy episode in or around finals then Ross should be primed to come in. Prefer him to Higgins TBH.
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No
Yes
Yes
No
Stack definitely in just not for baker.
Someone has to go out for Stack to come back in.
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No
Yes
Yes
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Stack definitely in just not for baker.
Someone has to go out for Stack to come back in.
Yeah it’s not gonna be easy call to make.
Maybe short. Bring in stack down back and move baker up forward.
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B: *Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
HB: Shane Edwards, Nick Vlastuin, Bachar Houli
C: Sydney Stack, Trent Cotchin, Shai Bolton.
HF: Daniel Rioli, Tom Lynch, Kane Lambert,
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Caddy
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia
Interchange: Jack Graham, **Liam Baker, ***Marlion Pickett, ****Ivan Soldo,
Smokies: Jack Ross, Kamden MacIntosh.
*Rance is the obvious replacement for Broad if ok to play even as third defender at 60% capacity.
**Short has been taking lessons off Brandon with pants some pooting antics of late.
***Marlion is speculative but he’s already a better prospect than the chief Snugglers nappies representative we have running around every week.
I have a feeling he will be our 2019 version of Townsend.
****Soldo is ahead of Chol only because of his work ethic. Chol does do the Lay-Down-Sally too often especially late in games which won’t go down well in a final.
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Apart from Pickett who I can’t comment on as I haven’t seen him kick a footy, I really like the look of that team.
With nank back I’d still probably lean to Chol over soldo. Nank will ruck the majority of the game, just needs a chop out 20-30% of the game.
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Has anyone ever seen Stack play as a wingman? Just curious cos I've only seen him play as a forward/defender
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Has anyone ever seen Stack play as a wingman? Just curious cos I've only seen him play as a forward/defender
It’s a natural progression for him because we already know he can defend and attack so I think it’s the best of both worlds for Sydney.
Cool as a cucumber with a lethal right foot that doesn’t shirk a contest as some players do. :whistle
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I agree he could most likely play good football there but the question was has anyone seen him play there? Don't really see why they'd play him in a new position during finals when he's been good down back and up forward.
Think they'll just stick with the current group of guys they have rotating through the wings with Mcintosh potentially getting back in if he gets he first kicked in 4 months some time soon...:shh
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B: *Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
HB: Shane Edwards, Nick Vlastuin, Bachar Houli
C: Sydney Stack, Trent Cotchin, Shai Bolton.
HF: Daniel Rioli, Tom Lynch, Kane Lambert,
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Josh Caddy
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia
Interchange: Jack Graham, **Liam Baker, ***Marlion Pickett, ****Ivan Soldo,
Smokies: Jack Ross, Kamden MacIntosh.
*Rance is the obvious replacement for Broad if ok to play even as third defender at 60% capacity.
**Short has been taking lessons off Brandon with pants some pooting antics of late.
***Marlion is speculative but he’s already a better prospect than the chief Snugglers nappies representative we have running around every week.
I have a feeling he will be our 2019 version of Townsend.
****Soldo is ahead of Chol only because of his work ethic. Chol does do the Lay-Down-Sally too often especially late in games which won’t go down well in a final.
Like it!
Rance for Broad!
Pickett or Baker? I’ll play Ross instead of Pickett or Baker. Yet Pickett needs more matches for me to judge.
Hard call, Chol or Soldo? I would go Soldo as he wins hit outs!
How exciting is this:
Sydney Stack
Shai Bolton
Jack Ross
Pickett/Baker
Soldo/Chol
Lynch
All could be playing in there first final.
Lots of Under 23s in our team!
Future very bright!
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Nank/Slomo combo is way too slow.... :shh
Pickett for Ellis or Short Steps. :shh :shh
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Nank/Slomo combo is way too slow.... :shh
Pickett for Ellis or Short Steps. :shh :shh
What’s the alternative?
Is Chol ready for the cut and thrust of an AFL finals series?
I agree that Chol has more upside and potential xfactor but can we risk him in a final?
He can’t be doing that non competing rubbish in a final nor can he just give up because he’s tired.
As slow as Soldo is he does fight and compete his guts out all game.
Personally I’d hoped to see Balta establish himself as a regular by now but that doesn’t look likely.
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I'm far more worried about carrying the likes of Short & Bellis into finals than Chol... :shh
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I'm far more worried about carrying the likes of Short & Bellis into finals than Chol... :shh
only room for one of the two..... :shh
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OUT: Short , BEllis
IN: Pickett, McIntosh
:shh :shh