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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Rampsation on May 26, 2019, 07:19:34 PM
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I have to say I consider Damien Hardwick to be a great coach and there were times when I thought he would never ever get close. But for me he has proved himself.
His success is not only reflected in the flag or even in his ever improving win loss record or even in the continual processing of new talent but also in the inherent failures of other clubs. Hardwick came to us when we were a complete rabble. The papers had scaoegoated us as the worst list and team since the disastrous final days if Fitzroy but Hardwick lifted us made us competitive and then with his staff winners.
Compare that to Brad Scott who started with a better list at the same time and Bolton at Carlton and Richardson ar St Kilda. None made any inroads. All those clubs are miles away. Hardwick has been great for Richmond but weve been good for him. Were doing to Essendon what they did to us when they took Sheedy. For me Hardwick is a great coach just behind Hafey and in time anything is possible.
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Dimma , Benny and Peggy have turned a basket case into a superpower. Enough said.
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Theres no doubt Gale and the board played an important role but Hardwick has been the chief architect. Without a winning team its hard to create a superpower thats not to underscore the role of Gale or Balme etc but Hardwick deserves a high place in the history of the RFC for his achievements.
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As a premiership coach and based on his record, Dimma is a champion coach. He deserves all the accolades for breaking our 37 year long drought. However, he needs to win more than one flag to become a "Great" IMO. Hoping he does this year :pray.
Stats wise, he is our sixth best ever coach:
Hafey - 4 flags from 5 GFs, 15 wins from 20 finals, 70% win rate.
Minogue - Back-to-back flags, 6 wins from 7 finals, 58% win rate.
Hughes - 1 flag from 5 GFs, 7 wins from 12 finals, 73% win rate.
Bentley - 1 flag from 2 GFs, 4 wins from 8 finals, 65% win rate.
Dyer - 1 flag from 3 GFs, 4 wins from 10 finals, 61% win rate.
Hardwick - 1 flag from 1 GF, 4 wins from 8 finals, 55% win rate.
Jewell - 1 flag from 1 GF, 3 wins from 3 finals, 47% win rate.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/coaches/richmond.html
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I absolutely laid into him from 2013-2016 so it’s only fair I give him the praise for not just taking us to a flag but so far steering is in a good position while all our key players are out. He is a very good coach
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Great coach's coach teams to multiple flags so not yet.
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I was OK with him until 2016 then i was adamant he had to go.
All credit he reinvented himself and at the same time the team and gave us back a real Richmond culture and comraderie to be bloody proud of.
Love him to bits for this and the flag in 2017, but need another flag for sure.
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No :shh
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Win multiple flags.
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I couldn’t believe he played Petterd over Foley in 2013, his inexplicable dislike for Shane tuck and not playing Anthony miles until forced to via injuries in 2014. And of course 2016 I wanted him out. But he has more than made up for it with 2017 and even 2018 and now. If he does manage to steer us to another flag he will be immortalised as a tiger for sure
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Put it this way. He’s by far the greatest coach we’ve had in my lifetime......
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
Born 1955. 1965 is a whole different story.
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
Born 1955. 1965 is a whole different story.
Which you’ve already told us
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
Born 1955. 1965 is a whole different story.
Which you’ve already told us
Sorry. Missed it. :cheers
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
Born 1955. 1965 is a whole different story.
Which you’ve already told us
Well then. I better not tell it again.
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Dimma = good coach
Not great yet, but potential is there.
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I think a great coach is both a great manager of men and en excellent strategist. If he knows he is not the latter he can still b great by surrounding himself with great strategists. Dimma definitely falls in the last group. I think he is fantastic at managing the age groups from boys to mature men. He surrounded himself with great minds like Caracella and Leppitch. Win another flag and he elevates himself to the elite category IMHO.
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I am 45 years old and this is the best version of Richmond I have ever known.
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Good but not great. I think there are too many games I've seen where he was truly beaten in the box by his counterpart which has always made me question how good he is strategically.
I think he's a good coach for the players and I suspect Caracella is the one with the brain for the game.
If he gets us another flag or two then sure he'll go down forever as a great...
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I'm old enough to have lived through the Hafey years. I don't think that will ever be repeated. But there is always hope. :thumbsup
Born 1965? You are a relative youngster! ;D
The Hafey years were unbelievable. It just seemed like we were there only to collect flags. Brilliant.
Born 1955. 1965 is a whole different story.
Which you’ve already told us
Well then. I better not tell it again.
PM him, it’s actually when of the better ID’s on this forum.
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Clarkson has better record
, I increased my opinion of him this year, a good to very good coach wins when it's not expected.
He opens his home up to the kids, you can't say his heart is not in it.
I also believe it's harder to win flags in this age as there are more teams and the AFLs desire to even teams up through the drafts and the cap
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Didn't know where to put this but bumping up this thread seems appropriate.
Dimma's 3/4 time moves last Thursday night showed again how much he's become a great coach. His matchday coaching has significantly improved since his early years when he was much criticised.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1148337/hardwick-s-magnetic-appeal
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Yes
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It was 2020 grand final where moves to Balta and sheds were pretty instrumental as well from memory? On the other hand Dangerfield was left spectating in a goal square which didn’t see much of the ball
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Yes but another flag would cement it.
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Didn't know where to put this but bumping up this thread seems appropriate.
Dimma's 3/4 time moves last Thursday night showed again how much he's become a great coach. His matchday coaching has significantly improved since his early years when he was much criticised.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1148337/hardwick-s-magnetic-appeal
I'd be impressed apart from the fact half of our online supporters were calling for these moves at halftime.
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Didn't know where to put this but bumping up this thread seems appropriate.
Dimma's 3/4 time moves last Thursday night showed again how much he's become a great coach. His matchday coaching has significantly improved since his early years when he was much criticised.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1148337/hardwick-s-magnetic-appeal
I'd be impressed apart from the fact half of our online supporters were calling for these moves at halftime.
Funny I called for Gibcus forward and Balta back at quarter time and I think my dad said something about Baker going forward around then too.
Maybe Dimma checks his OER account at half time :D
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Im still not sure if he is in front of hinkley yet
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Im still not sure if he is in front of hinkley yet
:lol
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Another record broken for Dimma.
He's now coached us to the most finals series in our history overtaking Hafey.
Coaches who have taken Richmond to multiple finals series:
Damien Hardwick (8 ): 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2022.
Tom Hafey (7): 1967, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974 and 1975.
stuff 'Checker' Hughes (6): 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931 and 1932.
Jack Dyer (5): 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944 and 1947.
Perce Bentley (5): 1934, 1935, 1937, 1939 and 1940.
Dan Minogue (3): 1920, 1921 and 1924.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/coaches/richmond.html
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4th Premiership = Yes.
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He’s already great IMO.
A 4th flag would cement him as one of the greatest ever.
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Dimma is a coach who has achieved great accomplishments.
So very happy that Peggy & Benny supported him at the back end of 2016.
Need to keep him away from the final say at Selection Committee where he continues to play favourites that have been surpassed by the younger brigade.
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Dimma is 50 today :birthday.
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Eight finals series and counting, 3 flags...of course he's great.
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If he gets us up for a fourth flag this year, he’s leapt over Hafey, Jeans, Clarko and Sheedy as the best coach in my lifetime
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Damien Hardwick’s shock court appearance
The Richmond coach made a surprise appearance in court after being forced to front a magistrate this week — this is why.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/damien-hardwick-forced-to-front-court-in-melbourne/news-story/235a44e218ec8e3bd35247c771303faa
Guessing it's typical clickbait?
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Damien Hardwick’s shock court appearance
The Richmond coach made a surprise appearance in court after being forced to front a magistrate this week — this is why.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/damien-hardwick-forced-to-front-court-in-melbourne/news-story/235a44e218ec8e3bd35247c771303faa
Guessing it's typical clickbait?
A nothing story
Page 5 of the hard copy HUN today. Bottom right hand corner. Total of 6 very small paragraphs
Driving fine "blunder"
His company received an infringement notice for traffic offence (doesn't say what) it didn't get paid so it's ended up in court
He applied for an extension to nominate a driver, it was granted by the magistrate
Blah, blah, blah!
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Dimma is just three games away from being the first to coach Richmond for 300 matches.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/coaches/richmond.html
He's currently in 23rd spot for most games coached in the VFL/AFL.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1245643/-unique-hardwick-in-classy-coaching-company
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...............and only a few losses away from being double the number of losses of Wallet and KB.
It was a horrible first 3 seasons
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He is part of a great team who had a plan they believed in and followed it through,
When he won one he was great for me
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...............and only a few losses away from being double the number of losses of Wallet and KB.
It was a horrible first 3 seasons
"Worst team since Fitzroy" to 3-time premiers.
The first six weeks of 2010 were the toughest. 10 goal hidings every week is hard to watch. Took until the Adelaide game where we were competitive for 3 quarters followed by the Hawthorn narrow loss to build hope. The Port win followed by four in a row (including Jack's 10 goals against the Eagles) got everyone on board believing IMO. That with patience and the Club finally sticking to the plan on and off-field, we would finally get there as that then young core group of Jack, Cotch, Dusty, etc reached their prime together.
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...............and only a few losses away from being double the number of losses of Wallet and KB.
It was a horrible first 3 seasons
"Worst team since Fitzroy" to 3-time premiers.
The first six weeks of 2010 were the toughest. 10 goal hidings every week is hard to watch. Took until the Adelaide game where we were competitive for 3 quarters followed by the Hawthorn narrow loss to build hope. The Port win followed by four in a row (including Jack's 10 goals against the Eagles) got everyone on board believing IMO. That with patience and the Club finally sticking to the plan on and off-field, we would finally get there as that then young core group of Jack, Cotch, Dusty, etc reached their prime together.
I was there that day and it was magical.
Jack also kicked 20 goals in the 4 weeks beforehand. Was very excited by that. When he kicked 5 in the first quarter vs eagles I said to my dad Sheesh he could kick 10 today haha. Lean 2nd and 3rd quarter one goal each so into 3qt with 7 to his name I thought nah maybe he won't kick 10 but then 3 in the last quarter and some from very challenging angles too it was amazing.
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So true. #TakeTheStairs
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhG0kJQVEAUgy7l?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/hardwick_damien/status/1590250682036416513
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Finals record of all the current coaches. Dimma with the equal best win percentage (from more games).
| ________________ | Matches __ | Wins __ | Losses __ | Draws __ | Win% __ | Highest Finish |
| Damien Hardwick | 16 | 10 | 6 | 0 | 62.5 | Premiership x3 |
| Simon Goodwin | 8 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 62.5 | Premiership |
| Alastair Clarkson | 26 | 16 | 10 | 0 | 61.5 | Premiership x4 |
| Adam Simpson | 12 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 58.3 | Premiership |
| Luke Beveridge | 12 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 58.3 | Premiership |
| John Longmire | 24 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 50.0 | Premiership |
| Ken Hinkley | 10 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 50.0 | Preliminary Final |
| Brad Scott | 8 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 50.0 | Preliminary Final |
| Justin Longmuir | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50.0 | Semi Final |
| Michael Voss | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 50.0 | Semi Final |
| Chris Scott | 28 | 13 | 15 | 0 | 46.4 | Premiership x2 |
| Ross Lyon | 20 | 9 | 10 | 1 | 45.0 | Runners Up |
| Chris Fagan | 9 | 3 | 6 | 0 | 33.3 | Preliminary Final |
| Craig McRae | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 33.3 | Preliminary Final |
Non-Finalists
Stuart Dew 2018 -
Adam Kingsley 2023 -
Sam Mitchell 2022 -
Matthew Nicks 2020 -
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Lol at Fagan and Lions with their pre-emptive 'Charlie gets held a lot so hopefully gets a few frees in front of goal tonight's
Suck attitude for a suck club.
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Scott losing 15 finals is shocking lol
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BUCKLEY’S 2023 CATEGORIES FOR ALL 18 COACHES
SEN
7 March 2023
Damien Hardwick
14th season, contracted until the end of 2024
“Richmond fascinate me, Damien Hardwick has been there and done that, he’s driven to go again,” Buckley said.
“I think he’s a connection coach who builds commitment to team by celebrating the individuals in it, that’s been the Richmond way through their success of the last six years.
“No one player is ever more important than the team … with a few more pieces to play with it’ll be fascinating.
“Damien Hardwick is going to do what he’s always done and they’re going to do it on the same cultural piece and with a very similar game plan but just double down on it.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/03/07/mining-stuff-or-swim-buckleys-2023-categories-for-all-18-coaches/
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So true. #TakeTheStairs
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhG0kJQVEAUgy7l?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/hardwick_damien/status/1590250682036416513
Right now they seem to be #takingthepiss
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I consider the Balme / Hardwick a great combination
Balme balanced out a few when he can home
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WHY HARDWICK WILL SURPASS CLARKSON’S LEGACY WITH A PREMIERSHIP IN 2023
By Lachlan Geleit
SEN
10 March 2023
David King believes Damien Hardwick has the chance this season to become perhaps the best coach of the modern era.
From the last 50 years of VFL/AFL history, King has current North Melbourne and former Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson as the best to do the job having won four flags with the Hawks from 2008 to 2015.
Currently sitting on three premierships with Richmond, King believes that if Hardwick wins a fourth in 2023, he can go past Clarkson as the “best coach we’ve seen since Norm Smith”.
If Hardwick does win another flag, he’ll join the likes of Allan Jeans, Tom Hafey, David Parkin, Ron Barassi, Leigh Matthews, idiot Reynolds and Clarkson with four to their name.
“I’ve done some research on this, I believe if Damien Hardwick wins the premiership in 2023, he’ll overtake Alastair Clarkson as the best AFL coach we’ve seen since Norm Smith,” King said on SEN Breakfast.
“That’s in the last 50 years, he would go to four flags alongside Alastair Clarkson, but I think he’s done it with less.
“I’ve done the research, there’s been less top 10 picks, less top 20 picks.
“This is no slight on Alastair at all, and it shouldn’t be received that way, because we’re talking about the pointy end of the coaching fraternity, the top guns.”
Placing their resumes next to each other, King first explained how he felt Hawthorn became so dominant with master coach Clarkson at the helm.
“Clarko coached for 17 years, five Grand Finals, four flags, it was done through an era where there were challenges with two new franchises coming in, compromised drafts, we had free agency – which they came in and scooped the pool on,” King explained.
“They forced clubs to trade ahead of time, players like (Jack) Gunston where they said, ‘He’ll walk, he’ll come to us, better get a trade done’, there was Brian Lake and a whole host of players.
“They cashed in their draft selections through that period and got known products such as Brian Lake, (Ben) McEvoy, David Hale – those sorts of players.
“They were very smart, and the tactical nous of Clarkson added to that period, and it realised itself with four premierships.”
While it’s a big ‘if’, whether Hardwick can win another premiership in 2023, King believes that if he does he’ll surpass Clarkson’s resume due to achieving the same success with what he perceives as less talent.
“(Hardwick) has spent 13 years at Richmond, three Grand Finals, three flags, he’s done it with less,” King said.
“Yes, they have traded towards the end with (Dion) Prestia and obviously with the free agency of Tom Lynch, they’ve had a big impact at the right time.
“But I believe if Hardwick was to win it this year and go to four flags, you could mount a case he goes past Clarkson because he’s done it with less talent.”
After bowing out in an elimination final last season, Richmond under Hardwick will be hoping to improve and push for their first premiership since 2020 this year.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/03/10/why-hardwick-will-surpass-clarksons-legacy-with-a-premiership-in-2023/
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Richmond’s out-of-the-box performance was a product of Hardwick’s demeanour
Nathan Buckley
SEN
15 May 2023
“The third one today I want to talk about Richmond.
“I want to talk about Damien Hardwick and what a great result that was for Richmond, but just even Hardwick's demeanour over the last five weeks, five losses, but I think the way he carries himself and his expectations of that group give gave them the capacity to be able to have that performance in that win against Geelong.
“In the last five weeks, he's been combative, he's been humorous at times and he's been able to maintain his humour, he's maintained his energy.
“He's had questions asked about his long-term tenure, about his commitment to the club, about whether he needs to look elsewhere.
“This result is only one week, but I think that it's a product of the coach's demeanour, his attitude, his combativeness, I just think that he's been amazing.
“In a situation where there's plenty of different ways you can go about communicating your message for the club and for the team or handle the questions that come from the media … I just think that he's been first class there.
“Their back seven, Jayden Short coming back in the side has definitely helped Daniel Rioli.
“They've got some real toughness there with (Liam) Baker, (Nick) Vlaustin and (Dylan) Grimes … they're really solid the back seven.
“They can't win the flag this year, but they could (make the eight).
“Last week I said, you know it's not going to be their year, and that's from making finals, but they could definitely.
“We wouldn't have thought they were going to win a game against Geelong and you talk about inequities in draw and whatever Richmond will be in the middle six in that area.
“So, they'll probably get some advantage from that.
“They lost the contested ball, they lost inside 50s, Broad on Cameron was fantastic, Dusty played one of his better games.
“Trent Cotchin kicked three goals and got in the majors, that’s taken him for four for the season.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/14/the-buck-stops-here-adelaides-exciting-mix-unheralded-on-ballers-and-coach/