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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 09, 2006, 03:18:30 AM
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Richmond coach Terry Wallace said last night the Tigers would be "more unlikely than likely" to consider recruiting Akermanis, but that should the possibility arise, his club "would go through the due diligence".
Wallace said Richmond didn't want to be seen as driving a wedge between a great player and the club with which he had made his name. "I think everyone who's involved in the game would love to see him finish as a one-club player."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/08/1146940476895.html
Richmond football manager Greg Miller claimed that the Tigers would also stick to the draft after bringing in established stars Kane Johnson and Nathan Brown, now captain and vice-captain, in recent seasons.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19070378-36035,00.html
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Would have to be freakin nuts - A step backward from the way we are heading and what we are trying to acheive.
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not a bad idea to get him
if the price is right! imagine our team with brown and aker interchanging from forward pocket and onball, would be a nightmare for opposition coaches. lets face facts, aker is a freak, a dead set gun.
going backwards would be paying big bucks for him on a long term contract. bringing in 1 experienced player and a few kids is the way to go, not just all kids.
ok lets make some decisions
who would u rather play 4 us and be in our team
aker or tiv........................aker!
aker or chaffey..................aker!
aker or gaspar....................aker!
aker of staff.......................aker!
now if we get rid, and we should if we are fairdinkum, tiv, chaffey, staff, and gas next yr, and replace them with 3 kids and aker, we are way better off!
aker knows more than anyone how to win games, win premierships, excite the crowd
its not his fault that matthews has lost the plot, not aker
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No thanks >:(
Akers an idiot who has shown this year especially that it's all about Aker and not his club or team mates
Finally gets in the leadership group and shows no leasdership except for showing how to be a fulltime fool
NO WAY
:gotigers
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Luv Aker, but absolutely not. Unless of course we could do a direct trade for someone who does nothing - yep, trade him for Krak.
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aker may have been agro on th ew/e but he never gave up and kept going, was qld best player, love him in my team
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Aker's 29 so not the age group we need as he'll be past his best by the time we start challenging. Plus like a number of Lion veterans they're becoming frustrated they are in a crap side and can no longer do what they use to be able to do.
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I don’t mind Aker, but no. Not at his age and definitely not in his current frame of mind. He needs to be in a strong club environment that can handle his strong personality, otherwise you’re just asking for trouble.
No problem with his football ability, but the off-field distraction he can bring to teammates can be the sort you don’t really need or want, especially in a developing team.
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age is nothing, look at harvey, if ur good , ur good!
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He's getting old and cranky. forget it. :chuck Nothing worse than having our young guys putting on some strong forward defensive pressure only to see Aker's give the opposition a 50m get out of jail free card by clouting someone. He did it against the Swans and stopped any momentum Brisbane was building at a crucial stage in the match. :banghead
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He's getting old and cranky. forget it. :chuck Nothing worse than having our young guys putting on some strong forward defensive pressure only to see Aker's give the opposition a 50m get out of jail free card by clouting someone. He did it against the Swans and stopped any momentum Brisbane was building at a crucial stage in the match. :banghead
He did it against us the other week - when he said something about a big red fire truck ;) ;D ;D
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He's getting old and cranky. forget it. :chuck Nothing worse than having our young guys putting on some strong forward defensive pressure only to see Aker's give the opposition a 50m get out of jail free card by clouting someone. He did it against the Swans and stopped any momentum Brisbane was building at a crucial stage in the match. :banghead
He did it against us the other week - when he said something about a big red fire truck ;) ;D ;D
:rollin :rollin
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Theres other players who are at good clubs at the moment and in the right age bracket and who can play who will be available at years end. Information has already been passed on. So hopefully we get 1 good player from another club at years end.
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No, still has a year to go on his 2 year contract. :whistle
Would much prefer a full Rookie list, and young men capable of adapting to Plow's gameplan.
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Crazy talk to even consider Aker
moronmanis. Very good finisher but always been a downhill skier laying forward of the play who, credit to him, capitalised on the great play of Voss, Black, Lappin et al. I always thought he would start to struggle when he had to win his own share of hard ball as a midfielder and Judd cruelly exposed where Aker sits today.
Might be handy to a team with a good midfield as a finsher, but if a team has a good midfield (which we are developing) it should develp its own finishers like Lids, Tambling and Meyer.
Wrong side of 30 and a loose cannon - No thanks.
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Acker has been dropped by the Lions.
Not sure what they are hoping to achieve by this - seems like it's just punishment like when Frawley dropped Richo and 5000 turned up at Preston to watch him ;D
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Got dropped cos he has been 'orrible.
Disinterested in rounds 1 - 4, slaughtered in round 5 by Judd and arguably cost Brisbane any chance last week with his 'ego' display plus he cant get the ball.
Good call by Matthews - actually changing my tip now and will go the Lions to beat the Hawks this week!
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Recruiting players past their prime has only been a source of misery and suffering for us RFC supporters. Big no-no for Aker
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Good call by Matthews - actually changing my tip now and will go the Lions to beat the Hawks this week!
lol I did the same thing. No Croad and Crawf in his pink boots for the Hawks helped as well.
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The players were told not to talk to the media yet on Tuesday Aka was having a big whinge about Leigh Matthews to the media.
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Hey Julz :thumbsup
I reckon he'll play.
I also hear that O'loughlan ;D might not play for the Swannies
(Jack told me)
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(Jack told me)
So you're talking to Jack but not me
And you're invisible
I know you're there :rollin
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Hey Julz :thumbsup
I reckon he'll play.
I also hear that O'loughlan ;D might not play for the Swannies
(Jack told me)
Well I don't know about O'Loughlan (it would be nice though) but you could be spot on about Aker.
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WLF Clinton Grybas suggested that we are taking a look at Aker at the moment. Im not against it but i dont think hes worth more than a 4th rounder at best at 30 years of age.
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WLF Clinton Grybas suggested that we are taking a look at Aker at the moment. Im not against it but i dont think hes worth more than a 4th rounder at best at 30 years of age.
he is worth looking at!
he would be gr8 value to our team, has gr8 big game experience, more than our whole team combined and i would give tiv 4 him without a doubt! tive and gas 4 aker i would also give
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hes a good type to get if your gonna hang around the edge of the 8 and youve got a group of kids and you need to get them into the finals. Akers the type of player who crosses the divide between being a finals team to just missing out. I also like the fact that hes 30, in this instance because he wont cost much and we need to stay above 92.5%...with Richo, Bowdo, Kellaway eligible for vets...i think Aker would be a good get...AS LONG AS HE DOESNT COST US MUCH IN THE TRADE. Id chuck in Rodan as well into the mix as part of a swap.
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hes a good type to get if your gonna hang around the edge of the 8 and youve got a group of kids and you need to get them into the finals. Akers the type of player who crosses the divide between being a finals team to just missing out. I also like the fact that hes 30, in this instance because he wont cost much and we need to stay above 92.5%...with Richo, Bowdo, Kellaway eligible for vets...i think Aker would be a good get...AS LONG AS HE DOESNT COST US MUCH IN THE TRADE. Id chuck in Rodan as well into the mix as part of a swap.
we are on the same page
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Aren't Brissy asking for a top 10 pick and a player :o. Tell 'em they're dreamin' :yep. We need guys in the mid-age bracket not near 30.
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my point is simply that if he comes cheap he'll be worth it coz he'll win us 3 games on his own- thats the difference between making the 8 and missing it.
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No doubt Ramps that Aker can win games off his own boot like Browny but we want to develop a side that will have a genuine chance of winning the flag not just making the eight. We are at least 2-3 years away from that so by the time we are challenging Aker will be 31+.
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On Fox Footy last night they were talking about the very same thing, and that a few clubs were interested, the main one being Richmond, Swans and a couple of other clubs. They even put a Richmond guernsey on him (using Photoshop of course) to see what he'd look like.
Help!! Brisbane would want a player and a draft pick. They can tell their story walking as far as I'm concerned.
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with aker in our team we could win a premiership or 2 in the next 3 yrs
brisbane wont get what they want in a trade, of colurse they are going to ask for something unreasonable, but i would not hesitate 4 one sec to give rodan and tiv for aker!
aker is much better value than those chumps.
imagine our team over the next 3-4 yrs with aker and brown, rotating in the fwd line and midfield!
aker is a genious on both sides and would be gr8 to help kids develop too, he would just let his confidence ooze through the team and keep spirits up. its not his fault that matthews is a fwit and has really bad ppl skills, terry on the other hand is fantastic with his ppl skills
aker is not ur average player , he is one of the gr8s, and can guarantee you, would never miss a target esp when kicking to richo or 4 goal
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How could we not look at Aker in a trade deal?
The guy is a fantastic player, and if the right deal could be struck why not?
As long as we took our young players out of the equation, I don't think an established player (Tiv, Gaspar, Hall, Chaffey) and a second round draft pick would be too much to pay.
However, I just don't think there is a hope in hell of the Lions trading Aker. The Lions would have no choice but to do the deal cheap and as a player he has to be a hell of a lot better than others traded for high picks in recent years..... Hay, Thompson and my personal favourite Ottens spring to mind.
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hmm - there's another Brownlow Medallist available next year at base money and would be a good get imho as you wouldn't have to give up anything. Better than a speculative pick just to make up numbers.
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with aker in our team we could win a premiership or 2 in the next 3 yrs
brisbane wont get what they want in a trade, of colurse they are going to ask for something unreasonable, but i would not hesitate 4 one sec to give rodan and tiv for aker!
aker is much better value than those chumps.
imagine our team over the next 3-4 yrs with aker and brown, rotating in the fwd line and midfield!
aker is a genious on both sides and would be gr8 to help kids develop too, he would just let his confidence ooze through the team and keep spirits up. its not his fault that matthews is a fwit and has really bad ppl skills, terry on the other hand is fantastic with his ppl skills
aker is not ur average player , he is one of the gr8s, and can guarantee you, would never miss a target esp when kicking to richo or 4 goal
I've said it before and I'll say it again NO WAY.
Aker maybe a skillful player etc but he is not a team player as his antics have shown this year. As I posted before with Aker it is all about Aker. Check out today's Australian for his latest effort ::)
As for helping develop the kids - give me a break >:(
Do we really want a bloke who shows very little respect to his coach, club and team mates around our young blokes :help I would hope not.
hmm - there's another Brownlow Medallist available next year at base money and would be a good get imho as you wouldn't have to give up anything. Better than a speculative pick just to make up numbers.
Now MJS if you are referring to one Shane Woewoewoewoedin - I've got 2 words for you NO WAY - he is 30 (like Aker) and recycling blokes at 30 when we are trying to build up our own champions (not that Woewoedin was ever a champion - 1 good season doesn't make a bloke a champion IMO) is not the way to go.
As for speculative picks which equals a late pick - here's a name for everyone ANDREW RAINES :thumbsup
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aker is an individual and is a team player, dont let the propaganda out of teh matthews/voss love camp bluff you!
aker and brown are teh keys to thatteam and all the team love aker bar leppa, voss and that fat head coach of theirs, how do i know this , my brother is very good friends with an brisi player! believe me, the team loves and he is a team man and an individual at the same time
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I have read the for and against and there is logic for both sides, but I must say that 30 year olds is not the track I want to see the tigers take and 30 year old load mouths are even worse.
I am excited with the development this year and would like to see us continue down the same road. There is no Aker on that road.
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hmm - there's another Brownlow Medallist available next year at base money and would be a good get imho as you wouldn't have to give up anything. Better than a speculative pick just to make up numbers.
Now MJS if you are referring to one Shane Woewoewoewoedin
LOL WP.
If we picked up Woewoeful we might as well get Spud back as coach. If we wanted to take a chance on a mature player with a late pick (a la Tucky) I'd rather go for someone like Jeremy Clayton at 25 y.o.
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I luv Aker, but i can't believe some ppl want him at age 30. What do you expect to achieve? :banghead
Keep on building a list of kids - is not doing us much damage at the moment.
The only way you'd take him is if he was a direct swap for a Chaff, Gas, or Staff
Keep our draft picks - they're what's gonna win us a premiership - not once great veterans at the end of their careers.
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Keep our draft picks - they're what's gonna win us a premiership - not once great veterans at the end of their careers.
Exactly Moi. We learnt the hard way that there are no quick fixes.
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Watching Aker last night he still has the skills and smarts but he's lost that pace he use to have. At 30 he ain't going to get any quicker either.
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i would trade tiv and hall 4 aker without a blink!!!!
at least aker can use the ball!
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i would trade tiv and hall 4 aker without a blink!!!!
at least aker can use the ball!
Sounds appetizing after today lol. Throw in Krak as well ;).
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i would trade tiv and hall 4 aker without a blink!!!!
at least aker can use the ball!
Sounds appetizing after today lol. Throw in Krak as well ;).
if we can trade krak also 4 a better player im all 4 it
im all 4 trading anyone on our list 4 a better player.
anything to improve the team
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the club will make decisions on the likes of Hall and Krakouer and Tivendale and Gaspar. Not sure what we could steal from other clubs for these players...maybe we can screw over North Melbourne lol
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the club will make decisions on the likes of Hall and Krakouer and Tivendale and Gaspar. Not sure what we could steal from other clubs for these players...maybe we can screw over North Melbourne lol
wells does not look happy there, mmaybe a trade 4 krak :thumbsup
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club needs to start cultivating the image of that group of players...positive information flow about the players involved...really pump them up...Id say the club would look to have about 6 or 7 draft picks this year. Last year I predicted 4 and we took 3...this year therell be more...god knows how we get anything decent for these players but someone needs to do something.
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club needs to start cultivating the image of that group of players...positive information flow about the players involved...really pump them up...Id say the club would look to have about 6 or 7 draft picks this year. Last year I predicted 4 and we took 3...this year therell be more...god knows how we get anything decent for these players but someone needs to do something.
i agree, there will be another cleanout.
staff, gas, chaffey and i think tiv are out of contract, i say dont even trade them, just pick up kids in the draft
if we can get good value, trade players like hall, newman, tuck and cogs. i know this may upset ppl, but if we can get real quality players 4 them why not
im not sure but i have a feeling hall may be out of contract this yr also
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Trading players for first round picks is fine. Trading picks and/or players for 30 year olds is dumb.
im not sure but i have a feeling hall may be out of contract this yr also
Hall's got another year.
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Trading players for first round picks is fine. Trading picks and/or players for 30 year olds is dumb.
im not sure but i have a feeling hall may be out of contract this yr also
Hall's got another year.
trade him and tiv 4 aker then! thats a win 4 us
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According to the Footy Show we along with 3 other Vic clubs have opened up discussions about contracts, dollars, etc with Aker's management. The 4 clubs named were - Richmond, Essendon, Melbourne and the Bulldogs in that order.
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Personally I don't think Akermanis is the type we're after.
Petiffer & Brown(assuming he recovers) have got those bases covered.
We need a tough nugget in an under with skill. Perhaps that's Foley, perhaps not.
One thing is for sure Cogs injury has exposed how weak we are in this area.
We are going to miss him hugely.
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Personally I don't think Akermanis is the type we're after.
Petiffer & Brown(assuming he recovers) have got those bases covered.
We need a tough nugget in an under with skill. Perhaps that's Foley, perhaps not.
One thing is for sure Cogs injury has exposed how weak we are in this area.
We are going to miss him hugely.
i have seen aker win many hard balls in and under, i would take him without a doubt
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Several clubs, including Melbourne, Richmond and Sydney expressed interest in drafting Akermanis next season if, as expected, the Lions look to rid themselves of the outspoken star.
However, the interested parties have apparently dwindled in light of the latest incidents, with many club officials fearful of upsetting the dynamic of their respective playing groups.
Full article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19568955-36035,00.html
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Brisband has just fined Aker $20,000 with $15,000 suspended because Aker has brought the club into disrepute. As much as I enjoy watching Aker play, do we really want such a person at Richmond?
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Brisband has just fined Aker $20,000 with $15,000 suspended because Aker has brought the club into disrepute. As much as I enjoy watching Aker play, do we really want such a person at Richmond?
yes and that fine isnt 20k, its 5 witha 15k suspended sentence whicjh is against afl rule!
aker is ok, matthews is the idiot and he cant handle the fact that aker is better and smarter than he is
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Personally I don't think Akermanis is the type we're after.
Petiffer & Brown(assuming he recovers) have got those bases covered.
We need a tough nugget in an under with skill. Perhaps that's Foley, perhaps not.
One thing is for sure Cogs injury has exposed how weak we are in this area.
We are going to miss him hugely.
i have seen aker win many hard balls in and under, i would take him without a doubt
I'd take him too as long as it's a straight swap for Krak.
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Krak 4 Ak. :thumbsup
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Personally I don't think Akermanis is the type we're after.
Petiffer & Brown(assuming he recovers) have got those bases covered.
We need a tough nugget in an under with skill. Perhaps that's Foley, perhaps not.
One thing is for sure Cogs injury has exposed how weak we are in this area.
We are going to miss him hugely.
i have seen aker win many hard balls in and under, i would take him without a doubt
I'd take him too as long as it's a straight swap for Krak.
na , str8 swap 4 chippendale.
question!
which natural rightfooter kicks teh ball ten million times better and more accurate on his left side(non natural side) than tivendale( a natural dud left footer)
annswer! : aker!!!!!
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Brisband has just fined Aker $20,000 with $15,000 suspended because Aker has brought the club into disrepute. As much as I enjoy watching Aker play, do we really want such a person at Richmond?
that fine isnt 20k, its 5 witha 15k suspended sentence
Same thing. Just gets hit with the $5K now and if he does it again there's an automatic $15K. Will add up to $20K if Aker doesn't keep his trap shut.
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Brisband has just fined Aker $20,000 with $15,000 suspended because Aker has brought the club into disrepute. As much as I enjoy watching Aker play, do we really want such a person at Richmond?
that fine isnt 20k, its 5 witha 15k suspended sentence
Same thing. Just gets hit with the $5K now and if he does it again there's an automatic $15K. Will add up to $20K if Aker doesn't keep his trap shut.
15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
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We don't want Aker: Wallace
4:05:12 PM Sun 25 June, 2006
Ben Wise
Sportal for afl.com.au
Richmond coach Terry Wallace has ruled out the Tigers trying to capture the services of controversial Brisbane Lions star Jason Akermanis for next season.
Speaking at the Coburg Tigers clash against the Box Hill Hawks on Sunday, Wallace said that it is simply not worth Richmond deviating from its policy of developing a side to chase the signature of Akermanis - who was fined $5000 this week by Brisbane for bringing the club and the game into disrepute.
"I have no issue with Jason, knowing him a little bit in the past and I have no issues with him as person. But personally, no, I don't think it's a pathway the Richmond football club are going down," Wallace said.
With Akermanis' manager Ricky Olarenshaw admitting on Saturday that the Brownlow Medalist is only a 50-50 chance of remaining with Brisbane to see out his contract - which expires at the end of the 2007 season - Richmond was one of the clubs, along with Melbourne, the Bulldogs and Sydney, who have been linked with signing him.
But Wallace dispelled any speculation that Richmond was considering a move for the fiery 29-year-old, declaring that it is simply not in line with his and the club's vision for the future of the Tigers.
"To get Jason to your club considering that he's got a 12 month contract, he's not going to come in the secondary draft, he's going to come via you having to give away selections in the national draft," he told 3AW.
"Where we are going as a football club is we're developing and growing a list and we are not prepared to give away any high selections to bite that - little own the financials that would come with that as well."
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=275973
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You would only want him if you were a premiership contender. We're not quite there yet. More suited to a Melbourne
Would put our development back a couple of years if we piled all our energies into getting him and lost out on some up and comers.
Shame though, would have loved to have seen him in a Tiger guernsey.
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We don't want Aker: Wallace
4:05:12 PM Sun 25 June, 2006
Ben Wise
Sportal for afl.com.au
Richmond coach Terry Wallace has ruled out the Tigers trying to capture the services of controversial Brisbane Lions star Jason Akermanis for next season.
Speaking at the Coburg Tigers clash against the Box Hill Hawks on Sunday, Wallace said that it is simply not worth Richmond deviating from its policy of developing a side to chase the signature of Akermanis - who was fined $5000 this week by Brisbane for bringing the club and the game into disrepute.
"I have no issue with Jason, knowing him a little bit in the past and I have no issues with him as person. But personally, no, I don't think it's a pathway the Richmond football club are going down," Wallace said.
With Akermanis' manager Ricky Olarenshaw admitting on Saturday that the Brownlow Medalist is only a 50-50 chance of remaining with Brisbane to see out his contract - which expires at the end of the 2007 season - Richmond was one of the clubs, along with Melbourne, the Bulldogs and Sydney, who have been linked with signing him.
But Wallace dispelled any speculation that Richmond was considering a move for the fiery 29-year-old, declaring that it is simply not in line with his and the club's vision for the future of the Tigers.
"To get Jason to your club considering that he's got a 12 month contract, he's not going to come in the secondary draft, he's going to come via you having to give away selections in the national draft," he told 3AW.
"Where we are going as a football club is we're developing and growing a list and we are not prepared to give away any high selections to bite that - little own the financials that would come with that as well."
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=275973
Best news I've heard - luv ya work Tezza :thumbsup ;D :rollin
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15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
What about the $20K Hird was fined?
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15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
What about the $20K Hird was fined?
that was a fine imposed by the afl, total different story and rules. the rules state that a club can only fine a player a max of 5k, the only club thus far to break that wa collingwood when they fined morrison this yr 20k which broke afl rules and broke agreements with the aflpa
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15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
What about the $20K Hird was fined?
that was a fine imposed by the afl, total different story and rules. the rules state that a club can only fine a player a max of 5k, the only club thus far to break that wa collingwood when they fined morrison this yr 20k which broke afl rules and broke agreements with the aflpa
Yep the AFLPA didn't want to challenge Collingwood so they backed down ::).
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15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
What about the $20K Hird was fined?
that was a fine imposed by the afl, total different story and rules. the rules state that a club can only fine a player a max of 5k, the only club thus far to break that wa collingwood when they fined morrison this yr 20k which broke afl rules and broke agreements with the aflpa
Yep the AFLPA didn't want to challenge Collingwood so they backed down ::).
not happy at benny gale 4 that!
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15k is not allowed, 5k is a max penalty any player should get according top the rules and unless ur play 4 the pies
What about the $20K Hird was fined?
that was a fine imposed by the afl, total different story and rules. the rules state that a club can only fine a player a max of 5k, the only club thus far to break that wa collingwood when they fined morrison this yr 20k which broke afl rules and broke agreements with the aflpa
Yep the AFLPA didn't want to challenge Collingwood so they backed down ::).
not happy at benny gale 4 that!
You can add the TAC to the not happy list too :scream.
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Don't think Aker will be coming to Richmond
Nathan just called him unstable and didn't want that type of person at the club lol
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Don't think Aker will be coming to Richmond
Nathan just called him unstable and didn't want that type of person at the club lol
LOL. Is that why Hird thinks Sheeds would have him? ;)
Browny is right though. Aker isn't going to come cheap and giving up one of our youngsters isn't the way we want to go.
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Apart from the fact he is a small forward competing for Browny's possie had absolutely nothing to do with his opinion lol
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Apart from the fact he is a small forward competing for Browny's possie had absolutely nothing to do with his opinion lol
Of course Moi :rollin
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Don't think Aker will be coming to Richmond
Nathan just called him unstable and didn't want that type of person at the club lol
LOL. Is that why Hird thinks Sheeds would have him? ;)
Browny is right though. Aker isn't going to come cheap and giving up one of our youngsters isn't the way we want to go.
what if aker does not come expensive, say aker and the lions say lets do a direct swap 4 tivendale and aker accepts 200k a yr , a contract signed only one yr at a time! i would say f off tivendale, welcome to tigerland aker!
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Spot on X
ANy club would take him, just depends what Brisbane want.
He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.
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He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.
I think Brisbane will be eyeing off a couple of high draft picks in the superdraft. They won't give him away for nothing.
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He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.
I think Brisbane will be eyeing off a couple of high draft picks in the superdraft. They won't give him away for nothing.
he can always quit and go in the draft cant he, or be sacked and go in the draft, and put a cheap price on his head
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Spot on X
ANy club would take him, just depends what Brisbane want.
He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.
i agree, and how do we know that say terry, sheedy, thomas etc, have told him on the sly, keep causing trouble, keep being a big mouth, this will decrease ur market value. being realistic, aker isnt the problem, he has been a character from day one, matthews never had a problem with that, he drew the crowd, won many games, did the job! even last yr he was best and fairest! matthews is now using him as a scapegoat. so really why would aker personally want to help the brisbane team by attracting a great deal! esp after brisbane and matthews ghave back stabbed him. aker would walk out smiling he left that club giving them nothing.
so my theory is, reiwolt, brown etc have come out saying no one wants him , i believe its a set up to decrease his market value. brisbane have had enough handouts, they won 3 cups in a row from being given what they want, now oits their turn to suffer.
at least sheedy built teams to win flags, not given teams like the eagles and the lions.
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First point Aker is contracted for season for 2007. So the only way he can go into the draft is if he and the Lions come to arrangement to end the deal ala Zantuck and the Tigers in 2005. If he is on say $275k per season - why would you ask for your contract to be terminated? A trade will be the only way he moves
Point 2 - seeing he is contracted he wont come cheap unless the Lions agree to pay a big % of the contract and why would they do that? They will want the best deal possible for him and they will play hard ball for the best deal.
Point 3 - because he is contracted Aker has to agree to any trade
Point 4 - the Vice Captain of the RFC has said he's not wanted at Tigerland, the coach has said we are not interested - and I don't want him either - all very good reasons not to go after him if you ask me ;D
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First point Aker is contracted for season for 2007. So the only way he can go into the draft is if he and the Lions come to arrangement to end the deal ala Zantuck and the Tigers in 2005. If he is on say $275k per season - why would you ask for your contract to be terminated? A trade will be the only way he moves
Point 2 - seeing he is contracted he wont come cheap unless the Lions agree to pay a big % of the contract and why would they do that? They will want the best deal possible for him and they will play hard ball for the best deal.
Point 3 - because he is contracted Aker has to agree to any trade
Point 4 - the Vice Captain of the RFC has said he's not wanted at Tigerland, the coach has said we are not interested - and I don't want him either - all very good reasons not to go after him if you ask me ;D
point 1/ they may just agree to terminate the contract and thus he may go in the draft
point 4/ the vc did say that, so what, was he telling the truth, we will never know, terry said recently we are not interested in gaining him if it means trading 4 draft picks or quality players???? he said on wlf weeks ago he would be interested in him?????? so wp, yes terry is not interested in him if it means giving up young guns or draft pics, brown said the same thing. as the coach and vice captain if they woudl like him for a direct swap for someone like rodan, hall, tivendale......................they would not hesitate. wp , yes they did say no to aker but in what context, only no to aker if it means draft pics or quality players.
point 3/ not if both parties agree to terminate the contract
point 2. waont mean a thing if tehy decide to cancel the contract
this is a business, terry said weeks ago he would be keen to look at aker, but not not while he is a contracted player, he also said he wont trade draft picks for him, does not mean he would take him if teh price is right.
everyone who thinks aker is a trouble maker just believe all the propaganda , he is a gun, he has more skill than anyone in our team. we would be crazy not to look at him 4 the right price, at least james hird had the balls to tell the truth.
if any tiger fan can honestly believe that tivendale is better value than aker they have rocks in their head.
this goes for hall, rodan, hartigan, jackson etc.
aker still has 3 yrs left in him maybe 4, and would off his own boot get us into the top 4. just imaging he and brown rotating b/w onball and fwd pocket!!!!
isnt it funny how supporters can accept mediocrity in our team like hall, tiv etc, and not want a class act like aker, cos he is flamboyant, has character and is as honest as they come, he isnt the backstabber, voss and matthews are.
gees, i remember 2 yrs ago many fans saying we didnt want wallace cos of his character and what happened at the dogs!!!!!!! i always backed wallace, and i will back aker too! tell y awhat, ppl say sugar was a gr8 pickup cos of his successful experience, well sugar is a monkeys a hole compared to aker, sugar was a ,emner of premiership teams, but aker was an intergral part in 3 premierships, and if one gets serious, sugar has been nothing fantastic since coming over. serviceable at times maybe but nothing as to what his reputation brought over, unlike brown, who had no premiership experience and has done more for our team in 2 yrs than sugar has.
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i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.
does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.
if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players
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i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.
does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.
if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players
And Barry Hall and Plugger went from bad boys to good guys
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i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.
does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.
if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players
And Barry Hall and Plugger went from bad boys to good guys
exactly and spider everit, at saint kilda, he was a bad boy, now he is one of teh most respected men in footy.
we shouldjust give aker a break, and hypo speaking if he does come to us, then he is one of us and we should than back him all the way
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ben cousins has a bad rep, i wouldnt say no to him either and he has no premiership medals
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Terry has reiterated in his FTB article "Generation Next" that:
"we will be placing even greater emphasis on selection of players to add to this group over the next few National drafts. So, don't expect to see Richmond ever again trading away its early draft picks, From now on, we develop our own at this Club."
"all our future trades will be players (eg: Paddy Bowden) who can last long enough to be teammates of the Generation Next group. To recruit a player for a two-year period is only stifling the progress of these boys. Patrick cost the club very little to secure and has already shown this year he will be a valuable asset at either end of the ground."
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Terry has reiterated in his FTB article "Generation Next" that:
"we will be placing even greater emphasis on selection of players to add to this group over the next few National drafts. So, don't expect to see Richmond ever again trading away its early draft picks, From now on, we develop our own at this Club."
"all our future trades will be players (eg: Paddy Bowden) who can last long enough to be teammates of the Generation Next group. To recruit a player for a two-year period is only stifling the progress of these boys. Patrick cost the club very little to secure and has already shown this year he will be a valuable asset at either end of the ground."
i know that mt, i even said it in a previous post, but it does not say getting aker for say a tiv or hall will stifle our process! i never suggested get aker for draft picks, i have said that if we can get him without losing a draft pick, and just trade a dud lik etiv why not.
not once have they said otherwise, all they have said is they wont trade picks, and i agree to that, but think outside the square, they never said theuy wont consider at all, just wont consider him for draft pics or kids, i can tell you now, he would be better for us than tiv, rodan or hartigan
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Aker would need to play mainly up forward as his days of playing out of midfield are shrinking as he gets older. So he would be competing with the likes of Browny, Petts and your boy Krak for a spot. He's still contracted for another year so he won't come cheap. The Lions will make sure of it. The Tigers should stay out of this one as in 3-4 years time Aker will be retired and we'll have our youngsters hitting their peak.
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Aker would need to play mainly up forward as his days of playing out of midfield are shrinking as he gets older. So he would be competing with the likes of Browny, Petts and your boy Krak for a spot. He's still contracted for another year so he won't come cheap. The Lions will make sure of it. The Tigers should stay out of this one as in 3-4 years time Aker will be retired and we'll have our youngsters hitting their peak.
i see ur point and understand, but hypo speaking, say aker and brisbane both agree to terminate their contract. aker puts himself in the draft, and say he is availiable for our very last pick and if picked he would agree on a reaonable to base income, why not pick him up. he still has run in his legs, look at harvey and west. if say he did come in, he and brown could swap midfield and fwd pocket roles. he would even be a gr8 off the bench impact player. look how good graham was 4 us last yr. and campbell. i know i woudl ratehr aker in our team over tiv, i would even have him over krak
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i see ur point and understand, but hypo speaking, say aker and brisbane both agree to terminate their contract. aker puts himself in the draft, and say he is availiable for our very last pick and if picked he would agree on a reaonable to base income, why not pick him up. he still has run in his legs, look at harvey and west. if say he did come in, he and brown could swap midfield and fwd pocket roles. he would even be a gr8 off the bench impact player. look how good graham was 4 us last yr. and campbell. i know i woudl ratehr aker in our team over tiv, i would even have him over krak
That would be tempting but you would still have to weigh it up against which kids are still available in the draft. It's a strong draft this year and we've done pretty well with Newman (53), Paddy (56), Tuck (71) and Rainesy (76) as late picks in the past. All potentially 10 year plus Tigers versus a 2 year 30-year old proposition. I couldn't speak higher of Mark Graham last year. He gave his all for the RFC, took Thursty under his wing and will be remembered for the job his did with Joel on Jonathan Brown up at the 'Gabba. But he only lasted a single year. We need to draft/recruit blokes that will be premiership players with us.
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From: Brisbane trying to trade me: Aker
The Australian
July 08, 2006
Akermanis' manager Ricky Olarenshaw yesterday conceded that Akermanis' behaviour would be a deterrent to prospective AFL teams.
"I think the only thing that will put clubs off (a trade) is if Jason's behaviour is seen as disruptive," he said. "Sure he has an opinion which makes him unique and probably puts people off at times but if he can help a team win a premiership they will take him on that."
Olarenshaw's fears were confirmed by AFL stars Nick Riewoldt and Nathan Brown on Channel Nine's The Footy Show on Thursday night.
"I think we are coming into a bit of stability at Punt Road and I don't think we need an unstable character like Jason," Brown said.
Olarenshaw said several clubs had enquired about Akermanis with Melbourne considered a leading contender. But Sydney coach Paul Roos yesterday revealed the Swans would not chase Akermanis.
Full article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19718505-36035,00.html
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Listening to Aker on 3AW now, and what he says is true. Aker's been the same all his career - outspoken. The difference now is that Brisbane aren't going as well now as they have been. If they had have been flying now, none of this about Aker would be mentioned. Because they aren't, he is the scapegoat for how they're performing.
I don't think he's more unstable than Browny is. They've both got good egos and both are forthright in their own way. It was Browny being forthright when he called him unstable.
He's got baggage, but I reckon he could make the difference for a club like Melbourne to help them go that extra step.
I hope he does well, because he's been a superstar and delivered many times on the field. I like honest ppl who wear their heart on their sleeve, and that's why I like him. There's lots of nice things about his character IMO that outweigh the rubbish.
Good luck, Aker :thumbsup
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Jere jere !
Stick it up 'em Aker :cheers
They're a pack of weak minded dogs who cant take the blame themselves.
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Like when Dean Jones got the flick from the Aussie team
I don't think anyone cared if he was a prick of a bloke, he was an awesome cricketer :bow
Aker's a great footballer who happens to say what he thinks. Most times reporters are hanging on his every word to give them a headline. So i find it nauseating now that he gets so much negative press when he's no different that he's ever been.
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UNFORTUNATELY FROARS,A SMALL PENIS IS A PRE REQUISITE of journalism.
sorry 4 caps :wallywink
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UNFORTUNATELY FROARS,A SMALL PENIS IS A PRE REQUISITE of journalism.
sorry 4 caps :wallywink
now i know why i couldnt get a career as a journo lol :rollin
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Hey, I don't crash cars
Damian Barrett
Herald-Sun
July 20, 2006 12:00am
JASON Akermanis says there is a mere 5 per cent chance he will remain a Lion, and claims he doesn't need to prove his character to prospective bidders.
Akermanis told the Herald Sun Melbourne was the only city in which he was contemplating living from next season.
A day after West Coast ruckman Michael Gardiner wrote off his and two unoccupied cars in a high-speed, alcohol-fuelled crash, Akermanis said those contemplating recruiting him should put in context his perceived flaws.
"Well, others break the law; I give an opinion. Some drive cars and crash in to other cars and get charged with a high blood reading; I say what I think," Akermanis said.
The 2001 Brownlow medallist said football people, including Richmond's Nathan Brown, who described him as "an unstable character", were wrong to question whether he would jell with a new club.
"If I am unstable because I have an opinion, then let's put every coach and everyone in the game who has an opinion in an asylum," Akermanis said.
"Because I don't go out and break the law and do other things that unfortunately other players do, that's what I cop. It is quick and easy to say that about me."
Akermanis said chances of him remaining in Brisbane next year were "under 5 per cent" and despite being 30 in February, he expected to play for another five years.
"Hypothetically, if we get to that situation where I leave, I will have the best 30-year-old football body in the competition, and I would want three years to show that new club immediate loyalty," Akermanis said.
"I believe I will be playing for five more years. Clubs may be thinking, well, a 26-year-old can give us five years and 26 is better than 30. The quality you will get from me is not going to change from what it has been.
"I have shown this year I haven't lost a yard of pace; if anything I am getting quicker. I haven't lost any fitness. I certainly haven't lost any skill or my ability to read the game and any given passage of play."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19847921-11088,00.html
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i love the way this guy goes about his business and footy, i say lets trade tiv for aker!!! this guy will be a big plus 4 us
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i love the way this guy goes about his business and footy, i say lets trade tiv for aker!!! this guy will be a big plus 4 us
You're a broken record, X lol
Okay, let's trade Tiv, but we'll give Brisbane steak knives. We'll handcuff you to Tiv (Tiff lol) and they can have you as well lol
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i love the way this guy goes about his business and footy, i say lets trade tiv for aker!!! this guy will be a big plus 4 us
You're a broken record, X lol
Okay, let's trade Tiv, but we'll give Brisbane steak knives. We'll handcuff you to Tiv (Tiff lol) and they can have you as well lol
sorry moi, they cant have me as im not 4 sale or trade, no one owns me but me lol
then again, can we really afford to get rid of tiv, we cant really cos i will have no one to bag on here, wait stop , yes i will ray hall, if he still is on our list
lets trade hall and tiv for aker!!! :thumbsup :lol :thumbsup
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What about offering them Krak? ;)
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What about offering them Krak? ;)
Krak is cheap in Queensland :santa
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I thought at the time that what Nathan Brown said about Aker was pretty ordinary. Still do.
Probably didn't come out how it was supposed to and that he meant Aker is a destabilising influence on his club. Haven't heard him clarify what he originally said though.
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What about offering them Krak? ;)
I doubt Brisbane would go for it but if they did, I'd OK that in a heartbeat.
Both with one year remaning on their contracts.
Aker's a proven star who despite his erratic behaviour, would add potency to our forward line. He's no Michael Gardiner.. :wallywink
He could be very handy in a genuine push for success over the next couple of years. A change of clubs could be just the thing he needs.
Krak's inconsistant as buggery yet still only 23. Who knows if he'll ever really arrive and how much more time do you invest in potential? :P If he kicks on to be a star so be it. That's the roll of the dice.
A trade like that would remind me of the Schwass/Grant deal of a few years ago.
Win/Win or Lose/Lose for both clubs.
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krak has not been as inconsistant as many assume this yr!!!
plus krak has still alot to offer, and is still on the improving scale
tiv is gone, he cant get better and his best is pathetic because he is teh only left footer i know who cannot hit targets
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krak has not been as inconsistant as many assume this yr!!!
plus krak has still alot to offer, and is still on the improving scale
Putting Tiv aside Im assuming you wouldnt trade Krakoeur for Aker?
It was pointed out to me not too long ago that KB kicked 84 goals in a season as a 33yr old.
At just 30, I'd almost put Aker in KB's class going on what he's achieved to date in his career. He could still be lethal(hehe) to any forward line for a few more seasons.
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Hello X?
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Aker's price tag in terms of traded picks/players will be higher enough without any club coming out in July and saying they want him at their club next year.
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krak has not been as inconsistant as many assume this yr!!!
plus krak has still alot to offer, and is still on the improving scale
Putting Tiv aside Im assuming you wouldnt trade Krakoeur for Aker?
It was pointed out to me not too long ago that KB kicked 84 goals in a season as a 33yr old.
At just 30, I'd almost put Aker in KB's class going on what he's achieved to date in his career. He could still be lethal(hehe) to any forward line for a few more seasons.
i would trade aker for krak, but not if it means we keep tiv!!!
say we delist tiv, then why not trade krak 4 aker
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Aker has been dropped this week again for making comments in the media.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=282538
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matthews,voss and brisbane have lost the plot.
im tipping the hawks now, aker is there only gr8 player with brown left.
the rest are just has beens
i have a feeling aker is doing this on purpose to get sacked so he can get a payout and thus enter the draft
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OK enough of the crap
Let's look at the situation objectively.
It has over the past two years been often stated that the Tigers will develop their own.
Therefore players like Aker will not be considerated as they are not part of the overall plan.
players like Krak are on the fringe because quite frankly their overall performance has not been of a standard expected of a potential premiership team.
As for Tiv he is also in that class however IMO I see a spot for him as a tagger and only in that role
With Chaff unable through injury and age to fulfil that role and the need to have our captain on the field for a greater majority of the time Imo Tiv will have to stand up and deliver along those lines or be passed by the wayside along with Krak.
You cannot expect Players like Polo and White who IMO would play Krak & Tiv on a break to sacrify their careers to keep them on the list in the future.
And as CJ Dennis would say 'therefore I rest my case'
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It has over the past two years been often stated that the Tigers will develop their own.
Therefore players like Aker will not be considerated as they are not part of the overall plan.
Agree Mopsy.
I'd doubt Aker would come to Punt Road after Browny's comments about him being unstable and then Aker's reply about Browny ripping an ATM out of the wall.
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Just on Browny's comments, they were just as unacceptable infact worse than the fab 5 rubbish from Pattison & Deledio and co. Browny should have been fined for that rubbish but thats just my opinion and I imagine many of you would disagree.
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Just on Browny's comments, they were just as unacceptable infact worse than the fab 5 rubbish from Pattison & Deledio and co. Browny should have been fined for that rubbish but thats just my opinion and I imagine many of you would disagree.
maybe not a fine but terry should have said something to him.
brown was stupid
facts are , now dont get me wrong, but aker is a far better player than brown. i am happy brown is playing 4 us, but he is no where as good as aker, and that is an unbiased comment.
btw, brown was not a perfect character in his past , he has done some pretty bad things, aker is only guilty of being his own man and having an opinion, and no one in the afl is as good as him on both sides of his body! brown does not want him at tigerland because brown wants to be the centre of attention and the best player and knows if aker wore yellow and black, aker would take over as our best player and most flamboyent character
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Just on Browny's comments, they were just as unacceptable infact worse than the fab 5 rubbish from Pattison & Deledio and co. Browny should have been fined for that rubbish but thats just my opinion and I imagine many of you would disagree.
I wouldn't say a fine but the Club should strongly remind Browny that it is the coaching and recruiting staff (with permission from the Board in regards to $) who decide on playing lists not the players. It was okay for him to reiterate the Club's public statement in regards to Aker but the comments about not wanting a unstable character like Aker at Richmond went too far and were needless.
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Just on Browny's comments, they were just as unacceptable infact worse than the fab 5 rubbish from Pattison & Deledio and co. Browny should have been fined for that rubbish but thats just my opinion and I imagine many of you would disagree.
I wouldn't say a fine but the Club should strongly remind Browny that it is the coaching and recruiting staff (with permission from the Board in regards to $) who decide on playing lists not the players. It was okay for him to reiterate the Club's public statement in regards to Aker but the comments about not wanting a unstable character like Aker at Richmond went too far and were needless.
for some reason i feel that on the footy show, they are told what to say cos they are paid to be there. eg the hird saga, hird was definately set up 4 that, iand i feel riewolt and brown likewise, as i recall , hird was teh only one who said he would welcome aker. he was too smart to be set up twice
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The one thing missing at Richmond is one player who can grab the game by the scruff of the throat ,take control and win it off their own boot.
Yes..i know Richo and Browny can do it(once in a blue moon to be brutally honest).but facts are they are nowhere near Akermanis.He is the elite excitement machine that takes the game and his team mates to a higher level.
Yes he talks the talk and walks the walk.
I like him as he is an individual who speaks his mind not like the absolute boring roboticised club orientated drivel that comes out of most players mouths.
The game is losing its characters and personalities in this day and age.
In saying that I would loved to have him come to Tigerland when TW took over as i think for him to come to us in 2007 it might be his age and longevity as a player that is against him.
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dont worry about his age. he is super fit and if bradley can play to 38, aker can play til 40! 30 isnt old, he is still peaking in athletic terms! and footbal is very athletic now
aker in a tiger jumper would guarantee us a top 4 side, and that means developing our kids in a successful team that plays finals! perfect
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brown was stupid
facts are , now dont get me wrong, but aker is a far better player than brown. i am happy brown is playing 4 us, but he is no where as good as aker, and that is an unbiased comment.
Very good point X.
I thought Browny was extremely foolish to make such a comment.
I would go so far as to say brown was slightly threatened by the prospect of another high profile recruit at the RFC. Particularly given the uncertainty surrounding his recovery from injury.
He would have done far better for himself and his club to STFU.
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30 isnt old,
Exactly and especially that Aker hasn't been crashed and bashed too much, he would have a lot of years left in him.
Once he gets to 34-35 he could be a permanent forward.
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The fifth quarter said there's a rumour Aker will or has announced he is cutting ties with Brisbane.
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3AW announced that he finished today at Brisbane
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What I said I stick with because it would have costed us IMO some youth, either by 1 or more of our up and comers or high draft picks which I don't think is the way to go. or the way we are going.
Having said that I could still really handle him in the side, reckon he would sit in pretty nice with Richo Browny and Scultz in the forward line.
If he has quit Brisbane what would we be looking at ? can they demand 'stuff' in return ?
Brisbane has lost a lot of respect from me (not that they give a flying) the way they have gone about this.
Aker is a bit of a tool, But I can't bag someone for speaking what they think is the truth, he should learn the NO Comment line and chuck it in some times.
I would give up a krak and a highish draft pick for him though - and be sensible about this players like Tivs wouldn't hold much value with a side like Brisbane - and that is giving krak a wrap beleive it or not. I would like him to stay a Tiger and become a bit more in of a player but would still swap him for an Aker.
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They are saying Brisbane has agreed to pay out Aker's contract for the rest of the year.
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Because of how this season pans out...I think we'll be getting anywhere from pick 4 to pick 7 in the draft...we wont be in for Aker. The aim for us is to be really aggressive and creative during trade week which will be hard...but is imperative for us to make sustained improvement. We need a CHB and a CHF and a couple of really good clearance players and a playmaker in the middle. Thats 5 players we need who need to be future stars for us to improve and get sustained success.
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Trade Tuck and one of Rodan, Krak or Tiv to Brisbane for Aker.
It would have to include a couple of draft picks here and there to make it happen but i would think it would be worth it.
They may see Tuck as a younger Voss and go for it :thumbsup
i dont think Tuck can go any further and will be up and down from here on in. Not having the impact that he should on games these days.
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If Aker is paid out then does that mean he is uncontracted and Brisbane will lose him for nothing? Like us and Zantuck.
In any case if we went down the track of trading someone with value like Tuck,I would be trading for first round picks to get our hands on some quality KPPs and midfielders; not a single 30 year old. As for the others - no probs lol.
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Trade Tuck and one of Rodan, Krak or Tiv to Brisbane for Aker.
It would have to include a couple of draft picks here and there to make it happen but i would think it would be worth it.
They may see Tuck as a younger Voss and go for it :thumbsup
i dont think Tuck can go any further and will be up and down from here on in. Not having the impact that he should on games these days.
I would offer Tuck only to create a top 3 draft pick. For example Krakouer & Tuck & 3rd rounder to North for Pick 3 overall...something like that.
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I wouldn't mind him at the club, he's an awesome player and I like people who speak there mind and don't give a s**t what others think, however, having said that I would rather a younger bloke at the club. I know Aker isn't old, but he is older than alot of our other guys and who's to say that he won't get an injury or get tire of playing footy. We could have gotten a younger guy that could give us 2-3 years of consistent footy.
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I actually think we'd benefit from his showmanship, our boys don't really celebrate well after a goal, Aker could help in that department. He is also a 'momentum' player, like when the Lions are on a bit of a roll, Aker lifts and starts kicking them out of his backside, which really lift a team and crowd.
The 2nd Grand Final against the Pies springs to mind, he was unstoppable.
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Aker should have won the Norm smith that day (5 in a GF).
I'd have him at the club but I don't think we have the currency to offer the lions. Nathan Brown's remarks don't carry much weight, do you think he might be worried about a better crumbing forward coming to the club?
BTW this situation has caused a lot of damage to the Brisbane club and has lost them a lot of support in Vegas. Maybe Aker should have pulled his head in but..... Jeez Lethal hasn't gained any respect out of this, he just looks petty.
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BTW this situation has caused a lot of damage to the Brisbane club and has lost them a lot of support in Vegas. Maybe Aker should have pulled his head in but..... Jeez Lethal hasn't gained any respect out of this, he just looks petty.
That's true HT. Aker was their marque player. I don't think the AFL will be too happy with what's happened.
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Tigers not chasing Aka: Wallace
abc.net.au
Richmond coach Terry Wallace says the Tigers are not prepared to pay the likely price to recruit disgruntled Brisbane midfielder Jason Akermanis next season.
Several Melbourne clubs have expressed interest in Akermanis, who is unlikely to play for the Lions again this year after being granted a temporary leave of absence by the club.
Akermanis is contracted with the Lions until the end of the 2007 season and Wallace said recruiting the former Brownlow medallist was not in Richmond's future plans.
"I've made a real commitment about the direction of this football club and where we're going," he said.
"That is that we're not giving away early draft picks to go and get senior players into our football club at any circumstance and that's just the way that it is."
Meanwhile, Sydney Swans coach Paul Roos said his club was not actively chasing Hawthorn's Peter Everitt for next season.
Everitt is off contract with the Hawks at the end of the year and has previously spoken of joining Sydney.
Roos said at the moment the Swans were not interested in the Hawthorn ruckman.
"To my knowledge, just reading through the papers, I believed he'd agreed on a 12-month deal with Hawthorn and was going to sort out the rest after that," he said.
"So, as far as I know that's where it sits. If we knew that he was going to be available you'd definitely sit down and talk about it amongst the coaches and amongst the leadership group."
http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200607/s1696703.htm
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The ABC say we're not interested; the Herald-Sun say we are LOL ???
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Tigers join the hunt for Akermanis
26 July 2006 Herald-Sun
Jim Wilson
THE race to snare Jason Akermanis has taken a twist, with Richmond coach Terry Wallace declaring the Tigers would be interested in attracting the disgruntled Brisbane Lion to Punt Rd.
But Wallace said any move to lure Akermanis would not come at the cost of an early draft pick.
"Jason is a terrific player and he'd be a great acquisition to our club, as he would be to a lot of other clubs," Wallace said yesterday.
"We would want a player of his calibre but we have a line where we are heading as a club. If that breaks the line, then we won't be doing it."
It's understood the Tigers have informally sounded out the 2001 Brownlow medallist.
Wallace's media-savvy approach would seemingly be the ideal fit for Akermanis, who is reluctant to give up his media interests.
It's believed he earns close to $150,000 in his contracts with newspapers, television and radio.
Along with Essendon's Kevin Sheedy, Wallace would be the most likely of the coaches to allow Akermanis to continue his media commitments.
But Bombers captain Matthew Lloyd has indicated any deal to attract Akermanis to Windy Hill would have strings attached.
He said there would be a concerted push by the club's leadership group and key officials to demand Akermanis adhere to certain off-field conditions.
Wallace said the Tigers leadership group would have an input into any deal to secure Akermanis.
But he wasn't concerned with Nathan Brown's comments this month on The Footy Show, when Brown indicated Akermanis wouldn't be welcome at Punt Rd and described him as unstable.
"Browny fires off about a few things like Jason does, and I reckon if they walked in the door, they'd shake hands and be pretty chummy," Wallace said. "I don't think that would be much of an issue."
Wallace said Brown had pulled up sore in recent weeks in his comeback from a broken leg.
But the Tigers coach has bigger worries and admitted a decision on Matthew Richardson's season might have to be made sooner rather than later.
The spearhead is expected to train today with the main group for Saturday's MCG clash with St Kilda, but his game has been restricted in his three matches back from a broken wrist.
"He hasn't been able to impact at all and I don't think he's been great value to the team over those games," Wallace said.
"I'm hoping he'll show he's continuing to develop and grow but there's no guarantees."
The Saints are giving nothing away on Justin Koschitzke, who's hoping to make his return to senior football against the Tigers, opting for closed training sessions this week.
"Our spies are telling us we can't get in either but obviously we'll all do our homework as the week goes on," Wallace said. "We'll try and speak to his grandmother's brother's uncle."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19916141%255E20322,00.html
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i guess im not the only "idiot" that thinks aker would be gr8 4 us at the right price. terry wallace thinks so too!
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Browny's been told off by Terry :lol.
He just said on the Footy Show that he'd love Aker at the club as long as we can get him cheaply (don't have to give up picks or our youngsters) and he gets on well with Aker. Just a touch of a backflip lol.
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dwayne russel last night was questioning david king and russel stated that aker is definately coming to richmond, he said that miller has already spoken to aker and the lions and aker wants us. king laughing said he has no idea what milelr is up to, russel kept asking him to tell the listerners if his mail was right and kingy just kept fending off the questions. i hope russel is right!
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Aker on 'queesland rules' AFL program on ten before yesterdays game.
'I want Richmond to win..... but that is another story'.
Knobel's sister might like closer ties with her brother.
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Aker is worth 3000 members to RFC and in particular that handstand poo the kids will love it. He'll pay for himself, the issue is not to pay Brisbane heaps for him.
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Am convinced after yesterday that Aker is not the answer to our situation.
We're further away from the premiership than two years and he's not what we need right now.
Expensive and shortsighted.
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Am convinced after yesterday that Aker is not the answer to our situation.
We're further away from the premiership than two years and he's not what we need right now.
Expensive and shortsighted.
Agree Magic. We're 5 years off at least and Aker will be long retired by then.
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Aker's a champion, but you've also got to look at other champion players who are still going around - Browny, Buckley, Hird - they are all starting to get more frequent injuries and have to be nurtured to get that longevity out of them. I just don't see the point when we're not going anywhere in the next couple of years. We're going somewhere but not quite ready yet to add a player like that that would see any benefit.
Unless we can get him for nothing, I'd rather go for another kid and get 10+ years out of him.
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Aker's a champion, but you've also got to look at other champion players who are still going around - Browny, Buckley, Hird - they are all starting to get more frequent injuries and have to be nurtured to get that longevity out of them. I just don't see the point when we're not going anywhere in the next couple of years. We're going somewhere but not quite ready yet to add a player like that that would see any benefit.
Unless we can get him for nothing, I'd rather go for another kid and get 10+ years out of him.
buckley and hird only had reoccuring injuries bec they were not managed right, look at buckley today, as fit and strong as ever. u cant say brownys injuries are due to his aging body. his leg was crushed and broke, nothing to do with age, now he has done his very 1st hammy and soft tissue injury in his career, also a result of lack of conditioning from his broken leg, once again , nothing to do with age. then we have players like harvey and thompson at the saints, yze just played his 250th,scott west , etc etc still fit as ever. basically every individual is different, the roo at adelaide still has a few yrs in him. aker has never had any injury problems that have halted his career, his body is in tip top shape. we would be better off over the next 3 yrs with an aker in our team than some of the many duds we have. having quality players in ur team is by far the best way to develop future stars. guys like meyer, blingers, lids would learn far more from an aker than a tiv, tuck, rodan, ............ duds will only bring potential stars down, champions will assist and help potential stars become champions
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Those players are playing for teams where you would try and nurture them because they're virtually on the verge of a premiership.
We're not. Still would like to go for a longer term prospect unless we can get Aker without giviing up valuable IMO draft picks.
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Those players are playing for teams where you would try and nurture them because they're virtually on the verge of a premiership.
We're not. Still would like to go for a longer term prospect unless we can get Aker without giviing up valuable IMO draft picks.
we can get him cheap, wont cost us much, prob a rodan and late pick imo
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Those players are playing for teams where you would try and nurture them because they're virtually on the verge of a premiership.
We're not. Still would like to go for a longer term prospect unless we can get Aker without giviing up valuable IMO draft picks.
we can get him cheap, wont cost us much, prob a rodan and late pick imo
I can live with that :thumbsup - or another substitute for Rodan - leave that up to Miller
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I'd be more interested in Polak than Aker, as good as Aker is. I have reservations about Polak but he's a KP backman and only 22.
I'll be happy if Aker ends up at Richmond though, of course. I'm easily pleased when it comes to the tigers. 8)
Was surprised to see Tuck grouped as a "dud" a couple of posts back. I'm actually quite amused when any AFL player is labelled that but doubly so in Tuck's case.
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I'd be more interested in Polak than Aker, as good as Aker is. I have reservations about Polak but he's a KP backman and only 22.
I'll be happy if Aker ends up at Richmond though, of course. I'm easily pleased when it comes to the tigers. 8)
Was surprised to see Tuck grouped as a "dud" a couple of posts back. I'm actually quite amused when any AFL player is labelled that but doubly so in Tuck's case.
As i said, if he comes for nothing - can't disagree with anything you say though. We jump off the wagon pretty quick us supporters.
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Akermanis will stick it so far up Brisbane next year its not funny. Whoever gets him will get a bloke who will play 18 games minimum and rack up atleast 15 brownlow votes. Its the 2nd year thats the concern. As to whether or not his good for us, I just get the feeling that its important for the Raines, Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Polo, Pattison, JON, Hughes and one or two others to get some scalps and play finals. You dont want a group of young kids missing out 3 years in a row.
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I just get the feeling that its important for the Raines, Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Polo, Pattison, JON, Hughes and one or two others to get some scalps and play finals. You dont want a group of young kids missing out 3 years in a row.
Rainesy will miss out 3 years in a row but he's doing okay :thumbsup.
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Raines only played 1 game the last game of Frawleys tenure...you should hear the crap on MMM about how spud produced Raines lol it makes me sick...anyway for mine 1 game in R22 under Frawley doesnt really count in the scheme of things.
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No Tigers jumper for Akermanis
Greg Denham
The Australian
August 07, 2006
RICHMOND has ruled out recruiting out-of-favour Brisbane Lions star Jason Akermanis.
Tigers president Gary March yesterday made it clear Akermanis would not be at Punt Road next season despite coach Terry Wallace leaving the door slightly ajar for the 2001 Brownlow medallist less than a fortnight ago.
"It would just go against our recruiting policy we established when Terry started less than two years ago," March said.
"I believe 'Aker' would be better suited to a club challenging for the flag next year and we might not be that close yet."
Akermanis, who is contracted to the Lions for another year, is now likely to concentrate on shifting to either Collingwood or the Demons via the October player-exchange period.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20038276-36035,00.html
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"I believe 'Aker' would be better suited to a club challenging for the flag next year and we might not be that close yet."
Makes sense but ive slowly warmed to the idea of having him....i just sort of wonder when and if we will ever have an all out superstar
that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it off their own boot...
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"I believe 'Aker' would be better suited to a club challenging for the flag next year and we might not be that close yet."
Makes sense but ive slowly warmed to the idea of having him....i just sort of wonder when and if we will ever have an all out superstar
that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it off their own boot...
We did until he had his leg snapped in half :'(.
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"I believe 'Aker' would be better suited to a club challenging for the flag next year and we might not be that close yet."
Makes sense but ive slowly warmed to the idea of having him....i just sort of wonder when and if we will ever have an all out superstar
that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it off their own boot...
i have a gut feeling withing a yr or 2, tambling is going to be a freak show, take this game on and become an outright superstar.
as mt stated in another post, he didnt get 30 touches on the w/e, but he single handedly got us back in the game with his freakish speed, evasiveness and talent. i only wished he had of slotted that goal on the run from around 50 out, his work in the middle was gr8 when in there and his speed and nimbleness really worried the bullies
blinger watch is on, he is gonna get freaky
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You really think he got us back into the game? I will pay that Kraks got us started in the game but I wouldn't have picked Tambo for getting us back into the game. Couldn't pick if any one individual on his own bat did that.
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"I believe 'Aker' would be better suited to a club challenging for the flag next year and we might not be that close yet."
Makes sense but ive slowly warmed to the idea of having him....i just sort of wonder when and if we will ever have an all out superstar
that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it off their own boot...
i have a gut feeling withing a yr or 2, tambling is going to be a freak show, take this game on and become an outright superstar.
as mt stated in another post, he didnt get 30 touches on the w/e, but he single handedly got us back in the game with his freakish speed, evasiveness and talent. i only wished he had of slotted that goal on the run from around 50 out, his work in the middle was gr8 when in there and his speed and nimbleness really worried the bullies
blinger watch is on, he is gonna get freaky
Let's hope so Bully. If Blingers can in a few years time regularly combine winning the footy with his speed then he will be scary :thumbsup. We've seen glimpses of it a couple of times this year.
I agree with Bully too Julz. We were getting killed for speed and Blingers changed that. His pace and desperation won us some vital 50/50s across half-back and the defensive side of the centre. We just couldn't put the good work on the scoreboard. Missing that goal on the run was Blingers only minus for the game. He should have nailed that. Goals like that lift the whole side.
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so if x = bully what does y = ???
blingers did change the game, and mt/y is correct, i feel if blingers nailed that goal it could have started something special
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But he didn't.
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But he didn't.
For high draft picks, both Bling and Lids kicking for goal so far leaves a lot to be desired.
2006
Lids 3.10
Tambling 10.15
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But he didn't.
For high draft picks, both Bling and Lids kicking for goal so far leaves a lot to be desired.
2006
Lids 3.10
Tambling 10.15
they will come good
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Fingers crossed. :pray
Isn't Pettifer our leading goalkicker this year? With 26 goals or something?
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Petts and Richo are both on 25
1. Kayne Pettifer 25
2. Matthew Richardson 25
3. Troy Simmonds 20
4. Andrew Krakouer 13
5. Patrick Bowden 12
6. Chris Hyde 12
7. Jay Schulz 12
8. Nathan G. Brown 11
9. Greg Tivendale 10
10. Shane Tuck 10
so if x = bully what does y = ???
My mistake X. Got my wires/threads crossed with Bull.
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Petts and Richo are both on 25
1. Kayne Pettifer 25
2. Matthew Richardson 25
3. Troy Simmonds 20
4. Andrew Krakouer 13
5. Patrick Bowden 12
6. Chris Hyde 12
7. Jay Schulz 12
8. Nathan G. Brown 11
9. Greg Tivendale 10
10. Shane Tuck 10
so if x = bully what does y = ???
My mistake X. Got my wires/threads crossed with Bull.
How lame does that list look? :banghead
Seven News reported we're still in negotiation with Akermanis, despite March's denial....
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Seven News reported we're still in negotiation with Akermanis, despite March's denial....
Miller's doing apparently according to Ch 7
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Tambo is going to be a freak.
I think it was Michael Long who was quoted when Tambo got drafted that he thinks he could be the greatest Aboriginal to play the game.
Huge call, but i think highly possible.
Not that i am trying to put pressure on the kid.
He really Xcited ;D me on Saturday.
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Thanks to Moi this is what Terry said tonight about the Ch 7 report on us and Aker:
Richmond apparently having a board meeting about what they’re offering Aker – Greg admitted he’s met him. Terry is not going to the board meeting – he thinks any side in the comp would be negligent not to look at what it would cost financially and what it would cost to get the deal done. We speak to about 20 players and if you get one deal done you’ve done a good job.
Re Gary March's comments - Terry says it was on a principle situation where the President had responded to previous statements by Terry in that we won’t be in that situation and comments he’s made before that there are no easy fixes and not giving away first round draft picks.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=3492.msg40267#msg40267
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Greg Miller was supposed to be on SEN this morning after 8.00am to talk about this Aker story and somethng that supposedly happened 10 years ago at the Roos (who cares about that bit :rollin).
Did anyone hear it????
And just on Aker - I have a feeling (I stress I no nothing) that we are going to be a player in the Aker sweep stakes - or at least try bloody hard.
Aker says he's got 5 years left - I reckon at least 3 - I suppose if we can do a deal that means we win then maybe just maybe we look at it but gee it's gotta be a bloody good deal
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If Akermanis goes to a club that wins 12 games next season he'll win the Brownlow or atleast finish with 3 or 4 votes of winning it. He'll stick it so far up Brisbane it wont be funny at all.
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Did anyone hear it????
Yep, took some notes on it :-)
Greg responded to Seven news reports “sarcastically”saying, I believe we’re making him an offer today – amazed where the stories come from. He’s met with him once up at the under 16 carnival in Brisbane – took the opportunity to say hello – normal practice at this time of the year
Watson said Essendon and Richmond said we’re the two clubs of choice – Greg said there were a few interested. Really just interested in what they’re like, what they want financially, how it will fit into your TPP etc. Always open minded and look at the opportunities as they present themselves.
Laughed at the question about who we would trade saying we’re months away and would work it out with about five minutes to go lol
In response to where Brisbane would play hardball, Greg said, a first round draft choice this year with the quality of the draft means clubs won’t give away first round picks. Other issues with Aker: Brisbane decision to let him go - there’s also TPP problems up at Brisbane as well.
Re Gibbs is he the best pick? – Saw him in Adelaide recently where he kicked 6 goals – seen a few times and impressed. Played in centre against Port Adelaide and was fantastic – Greg said he’s never seen a player play a game like that for a few years. Similar in Greg’s opinion to Buckley, Voss – great kicking, vision, great pack marks – ran thru midfield the whole day, rested occasionally on HFF and kicked 6 goals
Lachlan Hanson – good as well.
Depth of the draft – thinks it might be the best draft for depth, going into the 20s and 30s. Says there’s good players everywhere.
Tom Hawkins – right at the top.
RFC form – haven’t played as well but played 4 top sides, which we expected to win a couple – disappointing.
Discussion on Ricky Nixon conversation – a non-Melbourne based club had offered $1M to the Kangas when Greg was there for Carey. Greg laughed and said had a better memory than him, to which the commentators laughed and said he wouldn’t forget a deal like that lol. Greg actually remembers a couple of $1M offers – Saints in ’85 for the Krakouer brothers. One Geelong one but Greg’s memory is a bit fuzzy – sure lol
Caller put the scenario of an Ego Terry vs Ego Aker lol – Tuesdays with Terry and Aker hahaha
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Greg responded to Seven news reports “sarcastically”saying, I believe we’re making him an offer today – amazed where the stories come from.
Which translates to "no, not today - tomorrow" :rollin
I luv it when he says things indignantly, as if it's a slight on his character - shifty old bloke - glad we've got him lol :thumbsup
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In response to where Brisbane would play hardball, Greg said, a first round draft choice this year with the quality of the draft means clubs won’t give away first round picks. Other issues with Aker: Brisbane decision to let him go - there’s also TPP problems up at Brisbane as well.
Let's hope there are some dumb clubs who will part with first round picks .... cough... Roos ....cough... Freo....cough ;D. Just as long long as it isn't us.
We can afford Aker especially if Gas cops a big pay cut with his new contract so TPP isn't an issue with us. If we fall below the 92.5% minimum then we'll be forced to spend the money on players somehow. The question is whether Aker will be part of a Richmond premiership and like WP I only see him having 3 years so I don't believe so. The other question is how much will/would we need to give up to get him. As Greg said the upcoming draft has depth so 2nd and 3rd round picks will still produce decent AFL footballers if we've done our homework. So unless we can get Aker for a late pick or the PSD both highly unlikely then we should just forget about him IMHO.
Re Gibbs is he the best pick? – Saw him in Adelaide recently where he kicked 6 goals – seen a few times and impressed. Played in centre against Port Adelaide and was fantastic – Greg said he’s never seen a player play a game like that for a few years. Similar in Greg’s opinion to Buckley, Voss – great kicking, vision, great pack marks – ran thru midfield the whole day, rested occasionally on HFF and kicked 6 goals
Port are tanking hoping the fear of Gibbs wanting to go home to SA after 2 years will mean Essendon and Carlton will go for Hansen and Gumbleton instead.
Lachlan Hanson – good as well.
Wish we could get him :-\
Caller put the scenario of an Ego Terry vs Ego Aker lol – Tuesdays with Terry and Aker hahaha
Aker would get people to our games and Richmond in the papers whether we like it or not that's for sure. I don't think we should turn into Collingwood and forget about why the footy clubs exist. We are here to win flags.
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Aker would get people to our games and Richmond in the papers whether we like it or not that's for sure. I don't think we should turn into Collingwood and forget about why the footy clubs exist. We are here to win flags.
We just don't want to win one premiership but be up there aroundabouts every year. Short term fixes like this might one day get you a premiership (crossing fingers), but will be at the expense of a kid that will see more than three years with us.
Being saying this ad nauseam, but people are just so rapt up in the proposition of getting him, is like talking to a brick wall. As long as they remember that he'll retire in a couple of years, along with other players of the same age we've already got, and if we don't win a premiership in that time we've achieved absolutely nothing long term wise.
Buyer beware i reckon! He's a great player, but so many things as to why you wouldn't want another geriatric is not worth it, IMO!
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Couldn't agree more Moi.
Aker would get people to our games and Richmond in the papers whether we like it or not that's for sure. I don't think we should turn into Collingwood and forget about why the footy clubs exist. We are here to win flags.
We just don't want to win one premiership but be up there aroundabouts every year.
That's a given for almost all premiership teams. The Crows were the only modern side to come from nowhere, win back-to-back flags then disappear again.
Buyer beware i reckon! He's a great player, but so many things as to why you wouldn't want another geriatric is not worth it, IMO!
An article in The Age last week had that exact title.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/08/01/1154198139889.html
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Port are tanking for Gibbs, but they want one of our players. Watch this space. Tredrea is knackered and they know it. :gotigers
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We just don't want to win one premiership but be up there aroundabouts every year. Short term fixes like this might one day get you a premiership (crossing fingers), but will be at the expense of a kid that will see more than three years with us.
Being saying this ad nauseam, but people are just so rapt up in the proposition of getting him, is like talking to a brick wall. As long as they remember that he'll retire in a couple of years, along with other players of the same age we've already got, and if we don't win a premiership in that time we've achieved absolutely nothing long term wise.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping - spot on. Is getting Aker worth missing out on another Polo, Raines or Deledio? Me thinks not
If I thought we were going to challenge for a premeirship in 2007 I'd seriously think about it but we aren't there. I just want us to make the 8 next year :pray :pray.
Aker's been very lucky with injuries over the years - he hasn't had any and you hope he never does but look at Chris Newman - he's had no injuries either until this year. You cannot predict bad luck injuries. Also the chances of a 30 y.o. having soft tissue injuries is greater - a harsh reality of the game I'm afraid
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Aker's been very lucky with injuries over the years - he hasn't had any and you hope he never does but look at Chris Newman - he's had no injuries either until this year. You cannot predict bad luck injuries. Also the chances of a 30 y.o. having soft tissue injuries is greater - a harsh reality of the game I'm afraid
Browny copped his first ever hammy only just the other week against the Saints :P
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Is getting Aker worth missing out on another Polo, Raines or Deledio? Me thinks not
Spot on. If this draft is 20 to 30 deep with boys oozing with talent, what in the hell are we thinking of?
IMO it would be up there with anything as bad as what Frawley did.
Okay, not that bad lol, but close to it - dereliction of duty of the highest order IMO
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aker is worth the punt
we havent won a premiership since '80. if we miss out on a polo etc, to win a short term premiership, i would take the premiership anyday !! we can pick up teh "polo" the following yr.
success is the best way to build teams
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Yeah X - At least one flag then I can die happy - The rest can take care of itself from there.
Plus the fact what these young players will learn from someone like Aker, his effect will not only be while he is at the club but hopefully long after.
But no first rounders :thumbsup
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Yeah X - At least one flag then I can die happy - The rest can take care of itself from there.
Plus the fact what these young players will learn from someone like Aker, his effect will not only be while he is at the club but hopefully long after.
But no first rounders :thumbsup
exactly and yes no 1st rounders
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or second or third rounders
The only way he will help us win a flag if his body holds up like a Robert Harvey and plays well into his thirties , ie 33+ which is doubtful..
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Aker's manager said he's spoken to basically all Melbourne clubs. Aker is off to Japan (?) tomorrow for a holiday.
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or second or third rounders
The only way he will help us win a flag if his body holds up like a Robert Harvey and plays well into his thirties , ie 33+ which is doubtful..
Why is it doubtful? He turns 30 next year 24/2 so if he plays to 33 that is 4 seasons. He has hardly knocked his body around in contests and he is into fitness. I believe he doesn't drink or smoke so he looks after himself. Aker has more chance of playing to mid 30's than most players.
Harvey is 35 and I put Aker on the same fitness level.
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or second or third rounders
The only way he will help us win a flag if his body holds up like a Robert Harvey and plays well into his thirties , ie 33+ which is doubtful..
Why is it doubtful? He turns 30 next year 24/2 so if he plays to 33 that is 4 seasons.
Must agree.
3 years is a long time for any footballer.
I'll say it again in 1980, Bartlett kicked 80 odd goals at HF.
Aker is 4 years younger than that and I'd put him in KB's class.
However, if we offer him more than a 1-2 year contract I'll give up.
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Why is it doubtful? He turns 30 next year 24/2 so if he plays to 33 that is 4 seasons. He has hardly knocked his body around in contests and he is into fitness. I believe he doesn't drink or smoke so he looks after himself. Aker has more chance of playing to mid 30's than most players.
Harvey is 35 and I put Aker on the same fitness level.
I agree that fitness wise Aker has looked after himself but at his age the soft tissue injuries are a worry.
Harvey is a bloke that in last few years has missed a number of games because of injury. IIRC this season there's been hamstring problems and perhaps a calf (not sure if the calf was this season or last). I reckon because Harvey is still playing good footy people temd to forget about the injuries.
I am not saying the same thing is going to happen to Aker but I know if the RFC were to trade for him and then commit to a 3 year deal and he starts breaking down then alot of people are not going to be very happy at all
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Harvey hasn't missed a game this year but missed 7 last year with a calf and/or hammy. Remember he's now played on and off the bench so his body can cope and recover. That sort of player isn't going to help us long term.
Harvey's games played per year (29 y.o to 35)
2006: 18/18
2005: 17/24
2004: 23/25
2003: 22/22
2002: 10/22
2001: 9/22
2000: 16/22
Out of interest between 2000 and 2005 Aker missed 9 games out of a possible 147 in his mid-late 20s.
As WP said it's when players hit their 30s that soft tissue injuries become a concern. Remember what happened to Cambo. One bad calf injury finished him off.
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The more I think about it the more I want him to be at Richmond next year :-\
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The more I think about it the more I want him to be at Richmond next year :-\
Why?
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I'm not really sure :P But just over the past few weeks, I have warmed up too Aker, and realise he really isn't that bad, he is the type of person I would like to have at the club. Even if he isn't in our playing group, I think he would be good for the youngsters if he is involved in the club in some way. That's my opinoin anyway.
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I like his honesty and like him for that, but there are lots of good influences around the club at the moment IMO.
I think you have to weigh the pros and cons, TG - and although he would undoubtedly bring some excitement to the club, there are just so many negatives IMO that say we should not touch him with a barge pole.
I'm tending to think along with others that this is GM stirring the pot a bit, making ppl believe we're interested when we're not.
Time will tell.
Whoever gets him though will get someone who is out to prove a point - he is an excitement machine that's for sure.
PS: Taken any more pics you wanna send me ;)
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I like his honesty and like him for that, but there are lots of good influences around the club at the moment IMO.
I think you have to weigh the pros and cons, TG - and although he would undoubtedly bring some excitement to the club, there are just so many negatives IMO that say we should not touch him with a barge pole.
I'm tending to think along with others that this is GM stirring the pot a bit, making ppl believe we're interested when we're not.
Time will tell.
Whoever gets him though will get someone who is out to prove a point - he is an excitement machine that's for sure.
PS: Taken any more pics you wanna send me ;)
I see your point there. At the moment my mindset is, if we get him great, if not, not to worry. I guess we will have to see what happens.
Haha :P No pics at the moment, but I'll be getting some tonight ;) ;D
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Haha :P No pics at the moment, but I'll be getting some tonight ;) ;D
Good girl ;)
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PSSST
Craig Hutchison
The Age
August 13, 2006
At Richmond, ever-astute football director Greg Miller met Akermanis two weeks ago at his Brisbane home. Problem was, president Gary March inadvertently told The Australian this week his club wasn’t interested. Miller and March met on Thursday to start singing from the same hymn book. You’ll find the Tigers are in the hunt.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2006/08/13/1155407658133.html
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Wallace says Jason Akermanis remains on the radar at Punt Rd.
The triple-premiership player met Richmond's football director Greg Miller in Brisbane this month.
Wallace though has again stressed the club won't sacrifice early draft picks to snare Akermanis.
"If it becomes player for player, you have to do your due diligence, but we'll play the game like everyone else pretends they're not," he said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20146758%255E19742,00.html
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Akermanis meets Bombers and Demons on future
Jake Niall
The Age
August 31, 2006
Akermanis has outlined his conditions through his management and they are: a three-year contract, on $400,000 or more, plus the right to earn more in the media.
Olarenshaw said clubs would be "silly" to offer only two years when they knew Akermanis, who is 29, could command a three-year contract in the marketplace.
"That's definitely an expectation of Jason and ours, definitely. I think a club would be silly to be interested in having a go at Jason and offer him a two-year commitment.
"They know other clubs would offer three. To be competitive, you've got to offer three, you've got to offer what is currently around about what he is currently earning and probably a bit extra … you also get a bit extra when you change clubs. And that puts him in the 400 ($400,000) category."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/08/30/1156816968237.html
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Akermanis has outlined his conditions through his management and they are: a three-year contract, on $400,000 or more, plus the right to earn more in the media.
Olarenshaw said clubs would be "silly" to offer only two years when they knew Akermanis, who is 29, could command a three-year contract in the marketplace.
"That's definitely an expectation of Jason and ours, definitely. I think a club would be silly to be interested in having a go at Jason and offer him a two-year commitment.
"They know other clubs would offer three. To be competitive, you've got to offer three, you've got to offer what is currently around about what he is currently earning and probably a bit extra … you also get a bit extra when you change clubs. And that puts him in the 400 ($400,000) category."
Is it just me or do other think Ricky O has far too much to say and in the process doesn't help his client? ::) "You get extra when you change clubs" - excuse me? What the.... that's not necessarily so Ricky. ::) :help :-\ Are you related to Adrian A at AFL headquarters :wallywink
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;D
Yep totally agree.
The only one "silly" here is Ricky O.
Aker's been sent packing from the Bears for dubious reasons. More when you change clubs? LMAO.
3 years for a 30 year old? There wouldn't be many players in the AFL who'd get that, if any.
That tough talk from his agent will just make a few officials think twice.
There's negotiation and then there's outright arrogance. Ridiculous behaviour from Aker's agent, although Aker probably put him up to it. :P
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he would be gr8 4 us .....but not at that price. LET THE BUMMERS HAVE HIM
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3 year deal for a 30 year old is wishful thinking. Yep let the bombers have him to go with their "youth" policy of drafting Heffernan and Camporeale :whistle.
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Lions gunna play hard ball - Don't know how that is ???
Anyway enjoy your time at bummer land if that's the case - What if everyone says up yours to Brissy - PSD ?
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The article says Aker was still contracted for another year. I thought the contract had been written off by agreement b/w Aker and the Lions ???.
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Aker favours the bombers and dogs as his choice of club he wants to go to.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/09/02/1156817151100.html
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Great photoshop job by the boys and girls on the AFL site. Who says Aker doesn't have a big head! :lol
(http://afl.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/297790bk.jpg)
I wonder if Tezza and Miller will be sniffing around to pick up another Bulldog cheaply with the Doggies now needing to do a deal with Brisbane.
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Aker wants to bark for Dogs
By Damian Barrett and Mark Stevens
Herald-Sun
September 15, 2006
Essendon and the Bulldogs have made the strongest running for Akermanis but Geelong, Richmond, Collingwood and Melbourne are also interested.
The Bulldogs have made it clear they are not prepared to give up a first-round draft pick for Akermanis. With recruiters forecasting a "super draft", the Dogs will have pick No. 11 if their finals tilt ends tomorrow night in Perth.
The Dogs may be able to nab Akermanis with a second-round pick, but could also have to throw a player into the mix.
The Tigers yesterday confirmed they were out of the race for Akermanis.
"We spoke to him three or four weeks ago and we'll probably leave it at that," Tigers director of football Greg Miller said.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20415631-23211,00.html
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the more i think about aker , the more i think "lets forget about him"
i would lmao if brisbane dont trade at all, keep him on the books and play him in the seconds all yr or just pay him a yr to sit out of footy! what i find funny atm is aker and the doggies think its a done deal and both look real smug about it, but both seem to forget the lions are in control and they will decide where he goes
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This brings back memories of when we tried to nab Solomon. That was his last good year. Aker will probably follow suit. He's getting old and cranky. Worth at least two 50m penalties per game nowdays. Rocket Eade will love that! They'll need to teflon coat the glass in the coaches box or have the "Easy Off Bam Man" as one of the assistants.
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Lockett said he wanted to come to Tigerland but the Saints played hardball so we missed out. I don't believe at his age Aker is right for us and the doggies would be the better option for him but it's not a done deal until trade week. If Brissy are bitter they may demand more than the doggies are willing to pay just as the Saints did to us. I would've thought the Lions would want more for Aker than pick 27 and Sam Power.
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Revenge on Aker's mind
16 September 2006 Herald-Sun
Katie Peart
JASON Akermanis has revealed he wants to rub Leigh Matthews' nose in any of his future premiership successes.
The exiled Brisbane Lion, who fell out with Matthews this season, says his motivation is simple: revenge.
"I want to send him (Matthews) a picture of me with the cup and write on it, 'Wish you were here. Not!" Akermanis said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20420745%255E19742,00.html
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Aker loves playing up to the cameras doesn't he lol.
First on TFS panel he gave a 10-point spray at the Lions on alleged inside info. Accused a former assistant coach at the Lions of making leaks that he said he got the blame for. Then at the end of the show he and Jonathan Brown were on stage together. Aker chipped in with "Browny knows I feed him the footy all the time". He then went on with "All I know is the team I'm with next year will beat his team". Jonothan Brown replied "I'll make sure then I'll feed you next time" and "you better be warmed up when you come to play us". If only they meant it. Make the Dogs vs Lions game next year worth watching just to see if Aker got through it in one piece lol.
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interesting stuff about the insider leaking stuff, i reckon aker would be telling the truth and it sure does make lethal and brisbane look like total a holes and tossers for blaming aker
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I have a mate who barracks for the Lions and although he blames Brisbane for the way they handled Aker during the year, he reckons Aker has totally lost it now. I'm just glad he ain't coming to Richmond.
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I have a mate who barracks for the Lions and although he blames Brisbane for the way they handled Aker during the year, he reckons Aker has totally lost it now. I'm just glad he ain't coming to Richmond.
he has lost me too, his boof headed gloating is a worry. he is a character but he could have walked away from this with his head high but his behaviour just shows he is an immature spoilt brat
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Seems Scotty West is starting to have second thoughts about Aker going to the dogs (excuse the pun lol).