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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2006, 08:40:22 AM »
He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.

I think Brisbane will be eyeing off a couple of high draft picks in the superdraft. They won't give him away for nothing.
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« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2006, 09:33:58 AM »
He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.

I think Brisbane will be eyeing off a couple of high draft picks in the superdraft. They won't give him away for nothing.

he can always quit and go in the draft cant he, or be sacked and go in the draft, and put a cheap price on his head

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« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2006, 09:39:23 AM »
Spot on X

ANy club would take him, just depends what Brisbane want.

He may come cheap is he keeps talking as he will most likely turn clubs off and Brisbane may be forced to practically give him away.

i agree, and how do we know that say terry, sheedy, thomas etc, have told him on the sly, keep causing trouble, keep being a big mouth, this will decrease ur market value.  being realistic, aker isnt the problem, he has been a character from day one, matthews never had a problem with that, he drew the crowd, won many games, did the job! even last yr he was best and fairest! matthews is now using him as a scapegoat.  so really why would aker personally want to help the brisbane team by attracting a great deal! esp after brisbane and matthews ghave back stabbed him.  aker would walk out smiling he left that club giving them nothing.

so my theory is, reiwolt, brown etc have come out saying no one wants him , i believe its a set up to decrease his market value.  brisbane have had enough handouts, they won 3 cups in a row from being given what they want, now oits their turn to suffer.

at least sheedy built teams to win flags, not given teams like the eagles and the lions.

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2006, 12:59:12 PM »
First point Aker is contracted for season for 2007. So the only way he can go into the draft is if he and the Lions come to arrangement to end the deal ala Zantuck and the Tigers in 2005. If he is on say $275k per season - why would you ask for your contract to be terminated? A trade will be the only way he moves

Point 2 - seeing he is contracted he wont come cheap unless the Lions agree to pay a big % of the contract and why would they do that? They will want the best deal possible for him and they will play hard ball for the best deal.

Point 3 - because he is contracted Aker has to agree to any trade

Point 4 - the Vice Captain of the RFC has said he's not wanted at Tigerland, the coach has said we are not interested - and I don't want him either - all very good reasons not to go after him if you ask me  ;D
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« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2006, 02:06:16 PM »
First point Aker is contracted for season for 2007. So the only way he can go into the draft is if he and the Lions come to arrangement to end the deal ala Zantuck and the Tigers in 2005. If he is on say $275k per season - why would you ask for your contract to be terminated? A trade will be the only way he moves

Point 2 - seeing he is contracted he wont come cheap unless the Lions agree to pay a big % of the contract and why would they do that? They will want the best deal possible for him and they will play hard ball for the best deal.

Point 3 - because he is contracted Aker has to agree to any trade

Point 4 - the Vice Captain of the RFC has said he's not wanted at Tigerland, the coach has said we are not interested - and I don't want him either - all very good reasons not to go after him if you ask me  ;D

point 1/ they may just agree to terminate the contract and thus he may go in the draft

point 4/ the vc did say that, so what, was he telling the truth, we will never know, terry said recently we are not interested in gaining him if it means trading 4 draft picks or quality players???? he said on wlf weeks ago he would be interested in him?????? so wp, yes terry is not interested in him if it means giving up young guns or draft pics, brown said the same thing. as the coach and vice captain if they woudl like him for a direct swap for someone like rodan, hall, tivendale......................they would not hesitate. wp , yes they did say no to aker but in what context, only no to aker if it means draft pics or quality players.

point 3/ not if both parties agree to terminate the contract

point 2. waont mean a thing if tehy decide to cancel the contract


this is a business, terry said weeks ago he would be keen to look at aker, but not not while he is a contracted player, he also said he wont trade draft picks for him, does not mean he would take him if teh price is right.

everyone who thinks aker is a trouble maker just believe all the propaganda , he is a gun, he has more skill than anyone in our team.  we would be crazy not to look at him 4 the right price, at least james hird had the balls to tell the truth.

if any tiger fan can honestly believe that tivendale is better value than aker they have rocks in their head.
this goes for hall, rodan, hartigan, jackson etc.

aker still has 3 yrs left in him maybe 4, and would off his own boot get us into the top 4.  just imaging he and brown rotating b/w onball and fwd pocket!!!!

isnt it funny how  supporters can accept mediocrity in our team like hall, tiv etc, and not want a class act like aker, cos he is flamboyant, has character and is as honest as they come, he isnt the backstabber, voss and matthews are.

gees, i remember 2 yrs ago many fans saying we didnt want wallace cos of his character and what happened at the dogs!!!!!!! i always backed wallace, and i will back aker too!  tell y awhat, ppl say sugar was a gr8 pickup cos of his successful experience, well sugar is a monkeys a hole compared to aker, sugar was a ,emner of premiership teams, but aker was an intergral part in 3 premierships, and if one gets serious, sugar has been nothing fantastic since coming over. serviceable at times maybe but nothing as to what his reputation brought over, unlike brown, who had no premiership experience and has done more for our team in 2 yrs than sugar has.

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #80 on: July 07, 2006, 02:19:05 PM »
i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.

does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.

if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2006, 04:07:05 PM »
i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.

does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.

if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players

And Barry Hall and Plugger went from bad boys to good guys

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« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2006, 04:24:13 PM »
i have spent most my life watching crap players in a tiger guernsey, and i think, what gave these crap players the right to where this jumper and not aker? i would love to see aker in our team over the next 3-4 yrs.

does anyone remember pike, no one wanted him cos of his bad attitufde, and look what he became at brisbane.

if we can get aker cheaply. lets go for it, and if brown does not like him, aker would not care cos aker is a pro unlike many of our players

And Barry Hall and Plugger went from bad boys to good guys

exactly and spider everit, at saint kilda, he was a bad boy, now he is one of teh most respected men in footy.

we shouldjust give aker a break, and hypo speaking if he does come to us, then he is one of us and we should than back him all the way

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2006, 04:24:59 PM »
ben cousins has a bad rep, i wouldnt say no to him either and he has no premiership medals

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2006, 04:40:48 PM »
Terry has reiterated in his FTB article "Generation Next" that:

"we will be placing even greater emphasis on selection of players to add to this group over the next few National drafts. So, don't expect to see Richmond ever again trading away its early draft picks, From now on, we develop our own at this Club."

"all our future trades will be players (eg: Paddy Bowden) who can last long enough to be teammates of the Generation Next group. To recruit a player for a two-year period is only stifling the progress of these boys. Patrick cost the club very little to secure and has already shown this year he will be a valuable asset at either end of the ground."
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« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2006, 05:02:35 PM »
Terry has reiterated in his FTB article "Generation Next" that:

"we will be placing even greater emphasis on selection of players to add to this group over the next few National drafts. So, don't expect to see Richmond ever again trading away its early draft picks, From now on, we develop our own at this Club."

"all our future trades will be players (eg: Paddy Bowden) who can last long enough to be teammates of the Generation Next group. To recruit a player for a two-year period is only stifling the progress of these boys. Patrick cost the club very little to secure and has already shown this year he will be a valuable asset at either end of the ground."

i know that mt, i even said it in a previous post, but it does not say getting aker for say a tiv or hall will stifle our process! i never suggested get aker for draft picks, i have said that if we can get him without losing a draft pick, and just trade a dud lik etiv why not.

not once have they said otherwise, all they have said is they wont trade picks, and i agree to that, but think outside the square, they never said theuy wont consider at all, just wont consider him for draft pics or kids, i can tell you now, he would be better for us than tiv, rodan or hartigan

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2006, 06:35:59 PM »
Aker would need to play mainly up forward as his days of playing out of midfield are shrinking as he gets older. So he would be competing with the likes of Browny, Petts and your boy Krak for a spot. He's still contracted for another year so he won't come cheap. The Lions will make sure of it. The Tigers should stay out of this one as in 3-4 years time Aker will be retired and we'll have our youngsters hitting their peak. 
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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2006, 07:04:48 PM »
Aker would need to play mainly up forward as his days of playing out of midfield are shrinking as he gets older. So he would be competing with the likes of Browny, Petts and your boy Krak for a spot. He's still contracted for another year so he won't come cheap. The Lions will make sure of it. The Tigers should stay out of this one as in 3-4 years time Aker will be retired and we'll have our youngsters hitting their peak. 

i see ur point and understand, but hypo speaking, say aker and brisbane both agree to terminate their contract. aker puts himself in the draft, and say he is availiable for our very last pick and if picked he would agree on a reaonable to base income, why not pick him up. he still has run in his legs, look at harvey and west. if say he did come in, he and brown could swap midfield and fwd pocket roles. he would even be a gr8 off the bench impact player. look how good graham was 4 us last yr. and campbell. i know i woudl ratehr aker in our team over tiv, i would even have him over krak

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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2006, 12:15:28 AM »
i see ur point and understand, but hypo speaking, say aker and brisbane both agree to terminate their contract. aker puts himself in the draft, and say he is availiable for our very last pick and if picked he would agree on a reaonable to base income, why not pick him up. he still has run in his legs, look at harvey and west. if say he did come in, he and brown could swap midfield and fwd pocket roles. he would even be a gr8 off the bench impact player. look how good graham was 4 us last yr. and campbell. i know i woudl ratehr aker in our team over tiv, i would even have him over krak

That would be tempting but you would still have to weigh it up against which kids are still available in the draft. It's a strong draft this year and we've done pretty well with Newman (53), Paddy (56), Tuck (71) and Rainesy (76) as late picks in the past. All potentially 10 year plus Tigers versus a 2 year 30-year old proposition. I couldn't speak higher of Mark Graham last year. He gave his all for the RFC, took Thursty under his wing and will be remembered for the job his did with Joel on Jonathan Brown up at the 'Gabba. But he only lasted a single year. We need to draft/recruit blokes that will be premiership players with us. 
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Re: Recruiting Aker?
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2006, 01:43:37 AM »
From: Brisbane trying to trade me: Aker
The Australian
July 08, 2006

Akermanis' manager Ricky Olarenshaw yesterday conceded that Akermanis' behaviour would be a deterrent to prospective AFL teams.

"I think the only thing that will put clubs off (a trade) is if Jason's behaviour is seen as disruptive," he said. "Sure he has an opinion which makes him unique and probably puts people off at times but if he can help a team win a premiership they will take him on that."

Olarenshaw's fears were confirmed by AFL stars Nick Riewoldt and Nathan Brown on Channel Nine's The Footy Show on Thursday night.

"I think we are coming into a bit of stability at Punt Road and I don't think we need an unstable character like Jason," Brown said.


Olarenshaw said several clubs had enquired about Akermanis with Melbourne considered a leading contender. But Sydney coach Paul Roos yesterday revealed the Swans would not chase Akermanis.

Full article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19718505-36035,00.html