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Title: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2021, 10:39:03 PM
Lambert (calf)
Dusty (concussion)
Grimes?

Fire away after that trainwreck ...  :help
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: The Machine on April 24, 2021, 10:48:16 PM
Not looking good for next week with the possible outs.
In
Ross
RCD
CCJ

Aarts the sub
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2021, 10:48:55 PM
INS: RCD, Caddy (as a FWD), Ross

OUTS: Martin, Lambert,  Aarts

***assuming Grimes is OK
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2021, 12:50:27 AM
RCD?  Has he demanded selection? He can’t even get the footy consistently regularly in the vfl good luck playing AFL.

How’d did he go vs Casey? Let me guess...... he was ok  :rollin

Is he a late bloomer? Maybe he just doesn’t have it even at vfl level.

Maybe there’s a reason he keeps getting overlooked.

Leppitsch hasn’t rated him once that I’ve heard and let’s face it Leppitsch hasn’t kept much a secret since he’s been commentating on radio.

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Andyy on April 25, 2021, 01:01:05 AM
Out:
Dusty
Lambert
Rioli

In:
CCJ
Ross
RCD

Just play Edwards/Bolton forward with George and Aarts.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2021, 01:12:07 AM
Just listened to the VFL game review by Xavier Clarke

Very impressed with Naish this season as he has worked extremely hard on his deficiencies.

........... Not one mention of RCD  :shh


Yes, let’s pick him to play Friday night against the top team  :rollin
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2021, 03:30:15 AM
LMAO - Clarke's full of it...Naish was stuffing woeful in the VFL. :shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 25, 2021, 04:09:34 AM
RCD?  Has he demanded selection? He can’t even get the footy consistently regularly in the vfl good luck playing AFL.

How’d did he go vs Casey? Let me guess...... he was ok  :rollin

Is he a late bloomer? Maybe he just doesn’t have it even at vfl level.

Maybe there’s a reason he keeps getting overlooked.

Leppitsch hasn’t rated him once that I’ve heard and let’s face it Leppitsch hasn’t kept much a secret since he’s been commentating on radio.


Suggest you have a read of The Machine's review of the VFL game seeing he was there

Not sure why you seem to have it on for the kid, it's like you want him to be a fail  :huh
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2021, 04:17:37 AM
RCD's an inside mid, we got smashed all day in the contest and clearances and he barely touched it...'nuff said.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 25, 2021, 04:23:45 AM
According to the AFL website: "Josh Caddy, Callum Coleman-Jones, Patrick Naish and Will Martyn will be in contention for returns next week against the Dogs".

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2021, 04:30:31 AM
All those three were woeful....CCJ was flogged, Naish turned it over all day & Caddy was close to worst on ground... :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2021, 08:29:34 AM
RCD?  Has he demanded selection? He can’t even get the footy consistently regularly in the vfl good luck playing AFL.

How’d did he go vs Casey? Let me guess...... he was ok  :rollin

Is he a late bloomer? Maybe he just doesn’t have it even at vfl level.

Maybe there’s a reason he keeps getting overlooked.

Leppitsch hasn’t rated him once that I’ve heard and let’s face it Leppitsch hasn’t kept much a secret since he’s been commentating on radio.


Suggest you have a read of The Machine's review of the VFL game seeing he was there

Not sure why you seem to have it on for the kid, it's like you want him to be a fail  :huh
When did I ever say I want him to fail?  I’m asking the questions no one wants to ask. We all want to see him given a shot but what has he done to earn it? 

I’ve watched him play about 6 games myself and granted the only game that he impressed me was the 2019 GF.

He just doesn’t get enough of the footy in the vfl and he isn’t consistent enough and obviously isn’t doing what the coaches are asking from him.

Facts are Dimma hardly mentions him at press conferences.
Leppa hasn’t mentioned him at all.
His vfl coach doesn’t mention him after the game. 

How many opportunities has any young midfielder had to earn 1 game?

Last year Edwards, Prestia, Cotchin all missed chunks of games.
This year more opportunities.
Dimma was asked about him at the press conference after the game and what was his response?
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Andyy on April 25, 2021, 08:44:46 AM
I'm advocating for an RCD debut because the WB midfield is big and we will be undersized without dusty and prestia. Cotchin not influencing games much either.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: The Machine on April 25, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
All those three were woeful....CCJ was flogged, Naish turned it over all day & Caddy was close to worst on ground... :thumbsdown

CCJ was much better once moved away from FF. He lost his position on the day as Daw was simply too strong and good. CCJ got his possessions around the ground mainly playing a kick behind the play. Naish turned it over a few times like all players :shh Caddy started well and then became frustrated as it is not easy playing with VFL listed players who struggle with our structures and take the wrong option on many occasions. He was getting frustrated with Chol and rightly so.

As for RCD, he couldn't get outside the contest as we needed him inside. They monstered us all day all over the ground. He was better than Martyn on the day in my book.

The lose of our only tall back in Miller early hurt us immeasurably. I will say you see the whole game watching live as appose to a stream.   
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: crackertiger on April 25, 2021, 09:16:50 AM
Aarts has to go surely. Nice guy but not up to AFL standard. I have been saying it for weeks. He is a VFL player only.

Naish must come in in my opinion as he has been our best VFL player all year so far. Naish has dominated games but still overlooked. It's time to bring in Stack or Rioli junior even if only half fit.

Either would still be better then the Jake Aarts witches hat. To see him get out run by Gawn stamped his papers for mine.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Pappy on April 25, 2021, 09:40:27 AM
RCD is just not ready. I actually think he’s another year away to be honest and that’s being kind. Some players are just late developers like Kane Lambert. He may even be another 2 pre- seasons away to get his body and game awareness right.
If you watch last nights press conference with Dimma, when he was asked directly if RCD would come into the side, the pause in his answer was loud and clear. RCD is not going to be exposed to a Bontempelli led midfield without the likes of Dion, Dusty & Kane to help shoulder the burden. You can’t expect an under performing young player to come up against the current best midfield group in the competition.
I really hope RCD makes it as a player, but he’s just not ready at this point in time. Time is still on his side. My understanding is that he was recruited as a big bodied contested midfielder, yet from what I have seen and observed of him is that he doesn’t cover the ground that well and his disposal is hit and miss. I just don’t get why people are wanting to throw him in the deep end, on the G, when it’s all hands on deck against the form team of the competition.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2021, 12:22:29 PM
 :clapping :clapping :clapping

Well said Pappy.

Except I’ve lost all hope in him I hope I’m wrong though but I got the feeling he wasn’t the player they thought he was going to be.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: eliminator on April 25, 2021, 02:00:35 PM
We are up against the best midfield in comp next week. Changes need to be made. McIntosh should be dropped for one.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: the claw on April 26, 2021, 12:31:37 AM
Bloody hell the StKilda game papered over the cracks indeed.

Looks like Martin, Lambert and possibly Grimes will be out injured. Just assuming for now Grimes will come up. Aarts and Rioli two witches hats that should not be getting games and Houli just is not needed any more. McIntosh is also lucky what a fumbling incompetent he is.

So Martin Lambert gone and still no Prestia someone we just have not replaced like for like. With that logic we need three genuine mids to come into the team.
Would throw Baker fwd in place of one of Aarts,  Rioli. Plain as day we need a second ruck Id say there is only two options one of CC-J or Chol.

Would like to see the following

B/  Grimes 193/93 - Astbury 195/95 - Mansell 180/82.  Back line stays almost the same and stable with only past it Houli out.
HB/ Short 178/76 - Balta 194/100 - Broad 191/91

C/ McIntosh 192/92 - Cotchin 185/85 - Ralphsmith188/??? Only change here is Hugo in and Ross starting for injured players.
R/ Nankervis 199/102 - Ross 187/85 - Bolton 175/77

HF/ Edwards 182/82 - Lynch  199/99 - Baker 173/75. Sheesh two witches hats gone Aarts Rioli,  i like the look of the set up here.
F/  Castagna 181/82 - Riewoldt 193/93 - RC-D 193/89

Int/ Graham 181/83  - Martyn 186/82 - Pickett 184/84 - CC-J 200/105. A second ruck is the only change here. a needed one imo.

5 changes
 in - CC-J, RC-D, Ross, Martyn, Ralphsmith.
out - Aarts omitted, Rioli omitted, Houli omitted Martin inj, Lambert inj and McIntosh very lucky.

Me id go Ross for Prestia. , RC-D to get a game for Martin spending 60% game time fwd,   only way we will find out what he can do at the level is play him. Also a good size and Height to play forward. Martyn for Lambert a mid for a mid.
Ralphsmith for Aarts and play him on a wing but he could go forward or back if needed.CCJ second ruck with time fwd instead of  the extra small defender in Houli.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 26, 2021, 01:26:25 AM
You really don’t need to always quote the players heights and weights to prove your point.

Don’t mind your changes other than Houli out. He’s still better than mansell even if one is starting his career and the other is finishing it.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Damo on April 26, 2021, 06:24:17 AM
You bang on about us needed contested ball winners and start Graham on the bench. Yeah good one
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Andyy on April 26, 2021, 07:39:05 AM
Why does RCD need the be getting 30 touches a week in the VFL to get a debut? Is it possible he needs a taste of AFL to speed up his development?

I see that 200cm bloke for Adelaide just jagged 5 goals on debut at 18yo so it's not like RCD is too tall & skinny surely.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Knighter on April 26, 2021, 10:48:03 AM
We are stuffed.

No Martin, Prestia, Lambert, Vlaustin
Cotch and Houli need retiring; and
Balta, Cantstandya, Rioli, Aarts, Broad and Lynch all barely playing at VFL standard

It won’t matter who comes in.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 26, 2021, 11:14:26 AM
We are stuffed.

No Martin, Prestia, Lambert, Vlaustin
Cotch and Houli need retiring; and
Balta, Cantstandya, Rioli, Aarts, Broad and Lynch all barely playing at VFL standard

It won’t matter who comes in.
A regular ray of sunshine... I agree with you on everything prior to your first full stop.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: the claw on April 26, 2021, 11:22:34 AM
You bang on about us needed contested ball winners and start Graham on the bench. Yeah good one

Graham is not getting a whole heap of contested ball for an inside player probaby below average.
What is it about starting on the bench anyway? most mids spend a similar amount of time on the ground we have best 22"s not best 18's
It doesnt matter who starts the game.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 26, 2021, 11:55:36 AM
Why does RCD need the be getting 30 touches a week in the VFL to get a debut? Is it possible he needs a taste of AFL to speed up his development?

I see that 200cm bloke for Adelaide just jagged 5 goals on debut at 18yo so it's not like RCD is too tall & skinny surely.
Understand what your saying but I think a big key position players don’t get smaller at AFL level.
A midfielders job is getting the footy as primary extractors. No use having a big bodied mid if he can’t get the pill himself unless of coarse he’s trying to stop Dusty and used a tagger.
We constantly hear about how deficient the vfl standard is in comparison to the AFL level. If that’s the case then I reckon if a player is finding it difficult to find the footy at vfl level then I’d reckon he’d really struggle at AFL level.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Andyy on April 26, 2021, 12:20:33 PM
Why does RCD need the be getting 30 touches a week in the VFL to get a debut? Is it possible he needs a taste of AFL to speed up his development?

I see that 200cm bloke for Adelaide just jagged 5 goals on debut at 18yo so it's not like RCD is too tall & skinny surely.
Understand what your saying but I think a big key position players don’t get smaller at AFL level.
A midfielders job is getting the footy as primary extractors. No use having a big bodied mid if he can’t get the pill himself unless of coarse he’s trying to stop Dusty and used a tagger.
We constantly hear about how deficient the vfl standard is in comparison to the AFL level. If that’s the case then I reckon if a player is finding it difficult to find the footy at vfl level then I’d reckon he’d really struggle at AFL level.

Agree about VFL < AFL.

Serious concern for me this kid. Two years in the system (2020 sucked, I get that) and he's not getting much done on the park at VFL level. But then a guy like Ross is a borderline regular. How does that work? Martyn gets a debut too.

No Prestia, Martin, Lambert. Time to see what this kid is made of. WB have one of the best midfields in the comp and I don't think there's much we can do to fill the void at this point.

Cotchin, Edwards, Graham, Bolton. Then who else rotates? Pickett? Ross?


Get the lube for next week. We're gonna need it.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on April 26, 2021, 12:24:49 PM
I wouldn’t panic just yet. We were beaten fair and square by a better side on a roll.
I think we need a second ruck/forward.
We are getting killed being outmarked down the line from a R50 kicks to the wings.
Also, a think a 6ft ruck is so 2018.
We need 2 rucks and a think some fresh young energy would be a goof thing - perhaps an MRJ or a RCD would inject some youth and energy into our side this weekend.
2-3 changes maximum for me - assuming only Dusty and Lambo are out.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 26, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
Grimes in doubt according to the HeraldSun.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-injury-list-follow-all-the-latest-and-breaking-injury-news-at-your-club/news-story/89f749886964f328c241b615a7430e8e
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2021, 07:40:56 PM
Team Tips: RICHMOND

A losing record looms large with the Tigers set to lose two, and possibly three, stars to injury for Friday night‘s clash with the Bulldogs. Dustin Martin (concussion) and Kane Lambert (calf) are confirmed outs, with Lambert to miss several weeks, while Dylan Grimes (ankle) had scans and is currently a test for Round 7. Nick Vlastuin (knee) remains a week away while Dion Prestia suffered a calf injury while recovering from an existing hamstring complaint, setting him back several weeks. In terms of replacements, Round 6 sub Jack Ross will be heavily considered, along with emerging youngsters Maurice Rioli and Riley Collier-Dawkins. Sydney Stack played well at VFL level on the weekend and has served his suspension dating back to last year, likewise Callum Coleman-Jones who is banging down the door for an AFL return. Mabior Chol also impressed in the loss to Casey; it’s just a matter of how tall the Tigers want to be against a speedy Bulldogs outfit.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-afl-teams-round-7-team-tips-predictions-ins-and-outs-afl-team-news-tips-whispers/news-story/80b36efd234cda04692fc91e58c83318
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 27, 2021, 07:52:33 PM
In the Mix: Round 7


afl.com.au
27 April 2021


RICHMOND

Injuries are mounting for the Tigers who will face the rare task of having to replace Dustin Martin (concussion) this week. Kane Lambert (calf) is also out while Dylan Grimes has to pass a test to play after his ankle tweak. Jack Ross, who was the substitute last week, should be in the 22 for the clash with the Bulldogs, while Will Martyn, Riley Collier-Dawkins and Patrick Naish will also come into the selection frame. Callum Coleman-Jones is pushing to get into the side and Hugo Ralphsmith may have been a chance but is in doubt with an ankle injury suffered in the VFL.

Verdict: Martin and Lambert out for Ross and Martyn.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/603104/in-the-mix-r7-who-s-pushing-for-selection-who-s-under-the-pump-
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: pmac21 on April 27, 2021, 09:36:22 PM
Out Martin, Lambert, Aarts,
In Ross, Caddy, Naish
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: camboon on April 28, 2021, 07:38:39 AM
Thinking the same.Those were the changes that made sense to me.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2021, 04:16:29 PM
Collier-Dawkins will come in to bolster a midfield that will be without Kane Lambert.

Hardwick said star defender Dylan Grimes was “probable” to take on the Dogs despite picking up an ankle issue during the loss to Melbourne.

He added Patrick Naish was “well and truly in the mix” after trying to “squeeze him in” to the senior team for several weeks.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-7-2021-team-whispers-riley-collierdawkins-richmond-debut-jesse-hogan-giants-trade/news-story/78a80d6e3b8594bef00d1b2f4e023976
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: one-eyed on April 29, 2021, 05:37:04 PM
Looks like Naish, Ross, RCD, Chol, CCJ (obscured behind Balta) & MRJ were part of the Captain's run at training today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0Hje5ZVcAApCW0?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0Hje5bUcAA1g7C?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dogs?
Post by: Diocletian on April 29, 2021, 06:39:26 PM
Jinxy Naish in for the guaranteed loss.... :shh