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Title: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Chuck17 on August 13, 2021, 09:51:04 PM
Back by popular demand (unfortunately I couldn’t  kick off the old thread again so mods feel free to merge  if you cbf).

What are our options?

Teaguey will be available soon?

Or what about Jono Brown?
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: pmac21 on August 13, 2021, 09:53:04 PM
Needs to work on a new game plan and adapt to the new version of the game which completely sucks by the way.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Chuck17 on August 13, 2021, 10:20:59 PM
Game plan A: Rely on Dusty

Game Plan B: Stuffed if Dumma knows
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on August 13, 2021, 10:22:59 PM
Back by popular demand (unfortunately I couldn’t  kick off the old thread again so mods feel free to merge  if you cbf).

What are our options?

Teaguey will be available soon?

Or what about Jono Brown?

 :lol

Benny needs to get on the phone to Mark Neeld I reckon.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on August 13, 2021, 10:24:24 PM
Where Matty the Perth Pizza Man? #inblakewetrust :shh
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 13, 2021, 10:26:02 PM
Would be nice to get Leppitsch back.  :rollin
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 13, 2021, 10:28:18 PM
Reckon the game plan is just fine, unfortunately the execution of it this year is horrible
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Chuck17 on August 13, 2021, 10:29:10 PM
Reckon the game plan is just fine, unfortunately the execution of it this year is horrible

Agree Dusty is a gun
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 13, 2021, 10:35:12 PM
Stoppage coach goes for not protecting the defensive side and allowing oppositions to just waltz out the front.

Forwards coach goes for the tripe that is our F50 entries.

Can we get fitness coach Rob Inness back from the Swans? We didn't play a 4 quarter effort all year.

Can we also get a new tackling and goalkicking coach.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on August 13, 2021, 10:38:39 PM
I really don’t want to hear any more “we don’t rate centre clearances” chat from Dimma.

It’s clearly a massive weakness that needs addressing.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on August 13, 2021, 10:42:17 PM
It's all very well not to "rate" centre clearances but you have to at least be prepared to defend against them.. :shh..
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: TigerLand on August 13, 2021, 11:18:08 PM
stuff me Damien.

I'm sick of hearing how well opponents looked and played against us. Probably a reflection on us if it's happened every week for the last 10. Maybe we are easy for sides to play well against lol.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2021, 07:23:39 AM
Game plan A: Rely on Dusty

Game Plan B: Stuffed if Dumma knows

Interesting point. One of the main factors IMO along with injuries, and losing the assistants.

Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 14, 2021, 09:00:06 AM
Game plan A: Rely on Dusty

Game Plan B: Stuffed if Dumma knows

Interesting point. One of the main factors IMO along with injuries, and losing the assistants.

Agree re the assistant's

But I do reckon the other cuts in the footy department have impacted too.

There are a lot of good people who lost their jobs. People that although not a a coach or a recruiter (the front line types) that has gone and these were folks who were close to our players. Our footy department are very close knit

I've no doubt that's had an impact too

Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Buddysucks on August 14, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
An easy way for us to circumvent the stand the mark rule is to get 5 meters behind and move laterally to cut off runners or easy meters gained. I can’t believe we didn’t try this as much as possible.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2022, 09:06:08 PM
No assistants no dimma. His last year should be next.

Teague  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 16, 2022, 09:20:34 PM
This is embarrassing if serious
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: skiddymcghee on April 16, 2022, 09:26:47 PM
Back by popular demand (unfortunately I couldn’t  kick off the old thread again so mods feel free to merge  if you cbf).

What are our options?

Teaguey will be available soon?

Or what about Jono Brown?

The very fact that you actually started this post is very embarassing for you!
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 16, 2022, 09:41:27 PM
Back by popular demand (unfortunately I couldn’t  kick off the old thread again so mods feel free to merge  if you cbf).

What are our options?

Teaguey will be available soon?

Or what about Jono Brown?

The very fact that you actually started this post is very embarassing for you!
Chucky is an OER institution, Respect!
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
This is embarrassing if serious

Al Clarkson agrees.  :shh
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Rampsation on April 16, 2022, 10:16:50 PM
Hardwick is a 3 time premiership coach. You dont sack 3 time premiership coaches. You just get realistic about the playing list and continue the rebuild, which fir me started at ladt novembers draft.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: yandb on April 16, 2022, 10:36:13 PM
Hardwick was a three times premiership coach because of the right assistant coaches.

We have lost all the ones that matter and left Hardwick exposed.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 16, 2022, 10:59:02 PM
Ahhhhh back to the old give all of the assistants the praise and Hardwick none. The assistants chopped and changed through the dynasty years. Rutten left after 2018, we won 2 flags after. The great Blake caracella left after 2019 and we still won a flag after much to many’s opinion that he was the brains behind everything.

We won 3 flags in 4 years and some on here think that would go on forever? The lions peaked and then dropped away. The hawks peaked and then dropped away. It’s the nature of the game. Key players get older and the drop in quality comes.

Be grateful that we actually capitalised on our success and won 3 flags. There’s been many top sides who were pegged to dominate for years that didn’t.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Knighter on April 16, 2022, 11:05:37 PM
His time is up. Had his time in the sun and now more interested in shagging the help than winning anymore Premierships
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 16, 2022, 11:28:30 PM
His time is up. Had his time in the sun and now more interested in shagging the help than winning anymore Premierships
:lol :rollin
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Andyy on April 16, 2022, 11:53:23 PM
I suspect at some point this year, whether it's mid-season or September, Hardwick will come to the hard realisation that he's starting again (if he hasn't already) and then he will need to ask himself if he's up for the rebuild or wants to move on.

I think there was a proud part of him and the club that wanted to see if 2021 was just ruined by injuries and we had another flag in the list. There was a recent article suggesting our 2021 injuries masked the decline of the team and I do wonder if that's true.


Will Hardwick stay and rebuild the list? I actually don't think so. He will probably give it away after 2023 or so and we should all be grateful that we had him.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2022, 12:28:34 AM
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 :shh
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: wayne on April 17, 2022, 09:02:58 AM
There could be a few teams after new coaches, GWS, Port, WCE and Norf could sack their current coach. Would any make Dimma a godfather offer?
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: georgies31 on April 17, 2022, 09:09:34 AM
Ahhhhh back to the old give all of the assistants the praise and Hardwick none. The assistants chopped and changed through the dynasty years. Rutten left after 2018, we won 2 flags after. The great Blake caracella left after 2019 and we still won a flag after much to many’s opinion that he was the brains behind everything.

We won 3 flags in 4 years and some on here think that would go on forever? The lions peaked and then dropped away. The hawks peaked and then dropped away. It’s the nature of the game. Key players get older and the drop in quality comes.

Be grateful that we actually capitalised on our success and won 3 flags. There’s been many top sides who were pegged to dominate for years that didn’t.

Great post always say that to my mates we took our dynasty with both hands 3flags in 4 years and back to back can't ask for more sooner or later ride comes to end it's about how we rejuvenate now and not wait another 30 years.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Rampsation on April 17, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
If Dimma leaves (we wont sack him) our supporters would want Clarkson but Id go to Caracella and give him a shot at it.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 17, 2022, 12:09:17 PM
His time is up. Had his time in the sun and now more interested in shagging the help than winning anymore Premierships

Ordinary comment on so many levels >:(

Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on April 17, 2022, 02:23:44 PM
How were Hawthorn going in Clarkson’s last years?…

Not much good and hes supposedly the best coach ever.

You’re only as good as your cattle and right now our cattle aren’t that good.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2022, 03:28:40 PM
Has anyone ever coached a club to two separate dynasties? :shh



Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on April 17, 2022, 03:34:04 PM
Sheedy kinda…?
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 17, 2022, 03:36:33 PM
Sheedy didn’t get a single dynasty let alone 2.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on April 17, 2022, 03:37:35 PM
True. He had success with two different eras though I guess, which is rare.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2022, 05:18:24 PM
Thanks guys for getting this thread going again
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 17, 2022, 05:24:36 PM
It really needs to be stickied...get it done Chucky.... :shh
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2022, 05:25:45 PM
I wanted to join it onto the old one as there is some gold on there
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: one-eyed on April 19, 2022, 11:50:49 AM
Damien Hardwick hasn’t suddenly become a poor coach because his Tigers missed finals in 2021, lost a few games this year and are up against it to add a fourth flag this season.

Richmond have become a lesser team than their peak because their stars are no longer at their peaks (or in Dustin Martin’s case, not there at all for the time being). But that is the natural evolution of a team. That is, we accept Hardwick is a good coach because we have tangible proof in the form of three silver cups, though his players have aged and the list is in transition.

Hardwick is – rightly – not confronting any questions because he has three flags and the certainty of his standing in the game and at his club as his team endures a period of vulnerability. In contrast to other coaches, someone such as Hardwick is a comfort to their club as they seek the next iteration of their team. What Hardwick’s presence says to Richmond is the coaching is one area they don’t need to worry about as they evolve the list.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/proof-is-in-the-premiership-why-leon-cameron-is-vulnerable-20220418-p5ae7d.html
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: wayne on April 19, 2022, 01:35:10 PM
Robbo urging Essendon to ask if Hardwick is interested in being a director of coaching
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Knighter on April 19, 2022, 02:05:04 PM
Hardwick will go to GWS and Clarkson to GC next year.  Chris Newman back to the Tigers
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Rampsation on April 19, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
Hardwick will go to GWS and Clarkson to GC next year.  Chris Newman back to the Tigers

Disastrous result for our club if we lose Hardwick and put in Newman. He might be a former captain but it would be a bad bad result. The only assistant Id give the job too is Caracella. Bring back Grigg and Newman as possible assistants.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 19, 2022, 07:40:58 PM
Yeah Newman will sort out our lack of defensive accountabilty,,,,will probably make Shortsteps & Ralphsmith co-captains....leaders in his own image...... :shh
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: camboon on April 19, 2022, 10:56:35 PM
I would give Leppa a go as well if Hardwick left but we need to build our assistant/ development coaches as priority
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: georgies31 on April 19, 2022, 11:00:58 PM
Wouldn't consider Newman at all.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: eliminator on April 20, 2022, 06:35:26 AM
Sheedy didn’t get a single dynasty let alone 2.

From 1983 to 1990 you could argue that Essendon had a dynasty. They reached the grand final in 1983 and 1990 and won the grand final in 1984 and 1985. During this period I think you have to take into account they were up against arguably the greatest team Hawthorn has ever produced.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Diocletian on April 20, 2022, 02:19:55 PM
Ross Lyon would at least sort out our defensive issues..... :santa
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: the claw on April 20, 2022, 09:35:05 PM
Sheedy didn’t get a single dynasty let alone 2.


Sheesh i really wish supporters would apply the same standards to others that that they apply to us.

FMD From the time Sheedy took over essendon in 81 he would have had the most sustained period of playing finals od just about anyone.
He may have only coached a lazy 4 premierships but with a touch of luck it cold have been 6 or seven.

 I dont get it i revered Sheeds as a tiger player and at no time have i ever begrudged him his success elsewhere. That success is significant and should not be muddied by nuff nuff one eyed supporters who cannot see past their nose.

If Richmond had had the sustained sucess that is playing finals and contening and winnig flags that Essendon had had from 81 to 2004 then you would be peeing your pants with glee over him.

How about just a bit of humility and afford others a bit of due credit where it is deserved.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: torch on April 20, 2022, 11:28:20 PM
Hardwick will go to GWS and Clarkson to GC next year.  Chris Newman back to the Tigers

Disastrous result for our club if we lose Hardwick and put in Newman. He might be a former captain but it would be a bad bad result. The only assistant Id give the job too is Caracella. Bring back Grigg and Newman as possible assistants.

2nd this!
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 20, 2022, 11:52:40 PM
Sheedy didn’t get a single dynasty let alone 2.


Sheesh i really wish supporters would apply the same standards to others that that they apply to us.

FMD From the time Sheedy took over essendon in 81 he would have had the most sustained period of playing finals od just about anyone.
He may have only coached a lazy 4 premierships but with a touch of luck it cold have been 6 or seven.

 I dont get it i revered Sheeds as a tiger player and at no time have i ever begrudged him his success elsewhere. That success is significant and should not be muddied by nuff nuff one eyed supporters who cannot see past their nose.

If Richmond had had the sustained sucess that is playing finals and contening and winnig flags that Essendon had had from 81 to 2004 then you would be peeing your pants with glee over him.

How about just a bit of humility and afford others a bit of due credit where it is deserved.

I didn’t say anything negative about sheedy. I just said he didn’t coach a dynasty team. Dynasty teams have been defined for a while now as teams who have won 3 flags in short succession. Bombers never accomplished that under sheedy. If you want to call a team a dynasty just for ‘challenging’ for flags then Chris Scott would like a word….

And spare me with the humility and bit of due credit talk. We’ve won 3 flags in the last 5 years and 95% of your posts on here are crapping on players, coaches, team selection, footy department and on and on and on……
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2022, 11:05:23 AM

How about just a bit of humility and afford others a bit of due credit where it is deserved.

Would be great wouldn't it?  ::)
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Willy on April 21, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
“Humility and due credit” from an internet warrior who spends his days constantly bagging our coaches and players even during dynasty years…. :lol
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: georgies31 on April 21, 2022, 12:58:59 PM
As I said if it was choice I would bring Leppa back not interested in Newman.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Yeahright on April 21, 2022, 04:20:20 PM
“Humility and due credit” from an internet warrior who spends his days constantly bagging our coaches and players even during dynasty years…. :lol

Didn’t he jump on straight after the 2017 flag letting us know who should be dropped next year
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on April 21, 2022, 05:06:15 PM
“Humility and due credit” from an internet warrior who spends his days constantly bagging our coaches and players even during dynasty years…. :lol

Didn’t he jump on straight after the 2017 flag letting us know who should be dropped next year
    :lol

In fairness he said he would sail off into the sunset and wouldn't post again. But he returned eventually, likely after a loss.

But hey, he's annoyed me over the years and I don't always agree with him but he's entitled to his opinion. People don't have to respond if they don't want to.
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: camboon on April 21, 2022, 05:17:08 PM
Shane Edwards has been a star person and player for our club and deserves to play out the year in the seniors imho baring injury.
He is a real mentor, coach and example to many around the club and needs to go out in style when he chooses to go.
I hope there’s a spot for him in player development within the club dependant on salary caps
Title: Re: The new Sack Hardwick thread
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 22, 2022, 12:20:17 AM
“Humility and due credit” from an internet warrior who spends his days constantly bagging our coaches and players even during dynasty years…. :lol

Didn’t he jump on straight after the 2017 flag letting us know who should be dropped next year
    :lol

In fairness he said he would sail off into the sunset and wouldn't post again. But he returned eventually, likely after a loss.

But hey, he's annoyed me over the years and I don't always agree with him but he's entitled to his opinion. People don't have to respond if they don't want to.

Sure he is as is everyone. But let’s not pretend that a significant amount of his posts aren’t berating people for not agreeing with what his saying.