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Title: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Fishfinger on May 21, 2006, 06:04:49 PM
Kevin Sheedy had a swipe at Richmond at his press conference after Essendon's loss to the Waist Coats.
Sour grapes while you're on the skids Sheeds.  ;D ;D Suffer in your jocks.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 21, 2006, 06:58:08 PM
Kevin Sheedy had a swipe at Richmond at his press conference after Essendon's loss to the Waist Coats.
Sour grapes while you're on the skids Sheeds.  ;D ;D Suffer in your jocks.

Yeah FF, Sheeds wasn't a happy chappy  :rollin.

"I hate basketball.... you want me to play that basketball crap... you've got to be kidding"  ;D
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Jackstar on May 21, 2006, 10:09:02 PM
Kevin Sheedy had a swipe at Richmond at his press conference after Essendon's loss to the Waist Coats.
Sour grapes while you're on the skids Sheeds.  ;D ;D Suffer in your jocks.

Yeah FF, Sheeds wasn't a happy chappy  :rollin.

"I hate basketball.... you want me to play that basketball crap... you've got to be kidding"  ;D


He has a few issues has Mr Sheedy ;)
Title: Kevin Sheedy slams Wallace's tactics (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2006, 04:34:05 AM
Kevin Sheedy slams Wallace's tactics
22 May 2006   Herald Sun
Scott Gullan

ESSENDON coach Kevin Sheedy has unloaded on Richmond counterpart Terry Wallace, describing the Tigers' tactics against Adelaide as "basketball crap".
 
Sheedy even got personal during his extraordinary attack on the Tigers' high-possession keepings-off tactics, saying he hoped he wasn't anything like Wallace.

"I don't coach Richmond. Terry can do what he wants to do," Sheedy said.

"You look at Terry and you look at me. We are very different people, I hope. If he wants to play a game of billiards up the back, then good luck to him. It has got nothing to do with me. You win four points but you will never go anywhere."

Richmond broke all sorts of statistical records, including the most marks taken in a game, in defeating Adelaide at Telstra Dome on Saturday.

Faced with a similar against-the-odds task against West Coast yesterday, Sheedy refused to be negative, instead going head-to-head with last year's grand finalists, only to fall short by 21 points after a late Eagles surge.

Asked if he was cheating the Bomber fans by not adopting similar tactics to Wallace, Sheedy said: "I want to build a team to win a premiership. You can play that basketball crap all the time . . . that's why I don't play basketball.

"You're kidding, the way we played today we still get bums on seats, our fans will still come and see the next best kids play the most exciting footy.

"It is just the way I am as a coach. I am playing to develop a team. It is a big difference and history says I am not too bad at it."

Full article: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19212306%255E19771,00.html
Title: Sheedy vows no Richmond-style 'basketball crap' (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on May 22, 2006, 04:37:58 AM
Sheedy vows no Richmond-style 'basketball crap'
By Emma Quayle
May 22, 2006

KEVIN Sheedy last night declared he would not have his struggling Bombers play the heavily defensive football that helped Richmond beat Adelaide, describing such tactics as "basketball crap" that would bring no long-term success.

Sheedy would not criticise Richmond coach Terry Wallace directly, but categorically said he would not resort to Tiger-style tactics to win a match and keep his young players' spirits up by sneaking a win in a bleak season.

"I don't coach Richmond. Terry can do what he wants to do. You look at Terry and you look at me, we're very different people. I hope," Sheedy said.

"It's none of my business. If he wants to play a game of billiards up the back, then good luck to him. It's nothing to do with me. But you win four points. You'll win four points, but you might never go anywhere.

"I want to build a team to win a premiership. You can play that basketball crap all the time. That's why I don't play basketball; you're kidding.

"The way we played today, we'll still get bums on seats. The fans will still come and see the next best kids playing the most exciting footy."

Sheedy said Essendon's situation was "not about winning games and going nowhere", as some clubs have done in the past. "If we're going to unfortunately not win enough games that we would love to have won this year, then I'm just letting all the fans know that I'm not going to duck the issue at all.

"We're going to keep loading up with the next best young players until we find the right mixture, and give them the experiences that they need to go on and eventually give our fans a top effort."

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/21/1148150124331.html
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: cub on May 22, 2006, 04:40:33 AM
It was a cheap shot - and IDGAF really cause look where the bumbers are.lolroflmao and smc sheeds lma

One thing tho - I watched that interview and he quickly doubled back and said 'Not that we may not play like that at some stage' or words to that affect. This seems to have been edited out along the way somewhere - anyway IDGAF - lol  :gotigers

AND WE HAVE THE NEXT BEST BUNCH OF KIDS SHEEDS OLD CHAPPY - lma
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 22, 2006, 06:47:19 AM
sheedy is a 2 faced son of a b!

he just is angry and jealous that terry is a smarter coach and a lateral thinker!

im sick and tired of reading that richmond flooded!

we did not flood, adelaise flooded and didnt man up, and allowed us to play ro the plan teerry had organised!

who cares how a team plays. every game, evry week is different and a learning process. look at sydney, this time last yr  they were told to change their game, it was ugly! rgey did this possession stuff every week and slowingthe game down.

and they won the premiership and play damn good footy now.

i am really impressed because to maintain that game style all day with our "skill "level , was a gr8 achievement by the boys.

it just shows that terry has the ability to tackle each game as it comes and every opponent differently. he does not just have one game plan in his head. it was gr8 to see the boys adapt quickly and stick to the plan.

the 4 points is the most important thing, and we have won 4 of our last 5 and the sydney game is history!

sheedy go and lick kb's ring , u 2 are the 2 biggest 2 faced "pretend" richmond ppl ever!

go and walk hand in hand in a retirement village and suck on dumbies together!
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 22, 2006, 08:16:58 AM
Yes hardly anyone mentions how badly Adelaide played - just that we played ugly.  Didn't Adelaide to a similiar thing to the Pies a few weeks back?  For a team who everyone, including myself, had written off as winning on Saturday - well I'd take a win anyway I can. 

Neil Craig was at least honest in saying : "it was a valuable learning experience to be blunted by the Tigers' high possession, shutdown style.

"It was a good tactic and certainly took the pace out of the whole game," Craig said.

"We've done that to the opposition and we understand that. That's probably the most we've had that exposed to us.

"I thought our execution was poor and our ability to at least stay in the game wasn't what we want, but we hung in there."

Craig said the players did not have enough patience to combat the Tigers' ploy but he said they would be prepared for it next time.

"I think it's great, I don't have a problem with it," he said. "I think it gives people something more to deal with now and get better at and being able to handle that.

"It's better to be exposed to a different style because it gives you time to adapt. Clearly we didn't handle it as well as we would have liked.

"All credit to Terry and his players. He had a plan and their ability to execute it is the thing they should take from it. They should get recognition for it.

"We weren't good enough to handle it, but we'll be better next time. That's what it's about, just building as a club and as a team and being able to handle those situations." (herald sun website)


So to all those whingers, moaners, Sheeds, Spud etc :stupid - suck eggs :nopity :blah :ROTFL
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: tiga on May 22, 2006, 08:21:52 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the general rule in every sport that you do everything in your power to win as long as it's within the rules??
Oh well Sheeds, we won and you lost!  :thumbsup I would prefer to follow a team who does everything they can to win within the rules rather than try to look pretty and lose every week. It got the Swans to a premiership last year. As TW said, the boys have learned from the loss to the Swans last week and they knew what they had to do to stop the free running Crows. And it worked! Had our forward disposal been as good as our backs, we would have flogged them.

Stuff you Sheeds.  :wallywink Just start Looking forward to your early picks in the draft.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Cain on May 22, 2006, 11:49:49 AM
All those whingeing can just stuff right off. We won.
Couldnt give a rats clacker that essenshit want to play an attractive game and lose.
Had enough of sheedy.
He aint a doyen, he aint an oracle. He's old and crusty and his players no longer respond to him.
History will judge him as a great coach - and i will agree, but he needs to move on.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2006, 12:55:29 PM
Poor old Sheeds :lol the Bombers are struggling

But I'll give credit to Sheeds he is a cunning old fella as per normal he takes a pot shot at someone else to do what he always does and that is divert the attention off himself and the Bombers inept start to the season. And what does the the media in their combined wisdom do? Fall for it hook line and sinker.

I couldn't do anything but laugh...  :rollin I mean let's be realistic Sheeds talks about building a team to win a flag - good on him but despite whatever spin he puts on it the RFC on Saturday played their first 5 draft choices from the 2004 draft..


Let's just for a minute ponder those names shall we:

1. Deledio - not a bad player I suppose
2. Tambling - getting better looks alright
3. Meyer - developing
4. Pattison - best game for the Tigers
5. Polo - if I remember correctly against the bumbling bombers he was BOG

I think we all can see where we are heading and what the RFC is doing :thumbsup

Let's look at the Bomber team he's building that took to the field yesterday.... there's Solomon who cannot get a kick, Johnson who Sheeds himself said will probably get dropped this week , there's the young Heffernen and the even younger Campo who's out injured at the moment.... yep the future is there for all of us to see :whistle

Want me to go on?

As I said I just did this  :rollin :lol ;D :rollin

 :gotigers :gotigers





Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Moi on May 22, 2006, 01:22:47 PM
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"You're kidding, the way we played today we still get bums on seats, our fans will still come and see the next best kids play the most exciting footy.
Didn't get bums on seats against the Blues to watch those exciting kids of his last week  :wallywink
Hey Sheeds, we've got the exciting kids and you missed out on them  ;D
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 22, 2006, 05:22:19 PM
They replayed a bit of what Wallace said this morning on SEN and he was laughing at Sheedy talking about building to win premierships. Said something relating to our youngsters like - "Coburg are third on the ladder. Where is Bendigo again can someone tell me?!"  ;D

LOL @ Sheeds building with youth by recruiting last year oldies Camporeale and Heffernan. The Bombers were expecting to play finals this year and they topped up Spud style. Now that it's blown up in their faces Sheeds pulls out this diversion tactic as WP said. 
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Jackstar on May 22, 2006, 05:29:58 PM
Sheedy,  Deflecting whats really wrong in his own backyard ::)
No to mention his project players, Hennenman, Johns etc  :rollin
And what about Rioli, yeah he,s losing weight. get your eyes checked kev ;D
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 22, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
Sheedy,  Deflecting whats really wrong in his own backyard ::)
No to mention his project players, Hennenman, Johns etc  :rollin
And what about Rioli, yeah he,s losing weight. get your eyes checked kev ;D

I hear the bombers will be part of the next series of the Big Loser lol.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 22, 2006, 05:48:08 PM
we did not flood, adelaise flooded and didnt man up, and allowed us to play ro the plan teerry had organised!

That's exactly right X. What did these critics expect us to do. Kick it straight down the throats of 5 Crows zoning in our forward line  ::). Wallace was able to counter their flooding tactics and the game could have been an open free flowing more conventional spectacle if the Crows had just manned up straight away instead of waiting till the last final minutes. Terry's strategy parted the flood. Maybe his new nickname could be from now on Moses lol.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Bulluss on May 22, 2006, 07:22:52 PM
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i am really impressed because to maintain that game style all day with our "skill "level , was a gr8 achievement by the boys.

Gee X, we agree on another thing  ;D  :thumbsup

2 times in as many days, thats scary :D
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 22, 2006, 07:26:40 PM
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i am really impressed because to maintain that game style all day with our "skill "level , was a gr8 achievement by the boys.

Gee X, we agree on another thing  ;D  :thumbsup

2 times in as many days, thats scary :D

hey bull, i have nothing against you, we cannot all think the same but at times we do. imagine we all had the same thoughts , none of us would be here discussing our team!

we may disagree at times but we are all in the wider tiger family

scary ? maybe but true lol :thumbsup
Title: Subdued Sheedy admits lining up the wrong man (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2006, 01:53:03 AM
Subdued Sheedy admits lining up the wrong man
By Stephen Rielly
The Age
May 23, 2006
 
DID Kevin Sheedy have the true culprit in the dock on Sunday night when he described the absolute possession game Richmond resorted to against Adelaide as "basketball crap"?

A number of his contemporaries believe not. Rodney Eade and Paul Roos, for instance. Even Sheedy, in oblique fashion, conceded yesterday that he might have charged the wrong man of crimes against football when he accused Richmond coach Terry Wallace of producing a style of game to defeat the heavily favoured Crows that won the four points but "might never go anywhere".

"It's important to win the four points, obviously. I don't think you can be over the top (about Wallace) because the deal in the end was that the Adelaide coach was flooding as soon as Richmond got ahead," Sheedy said. "I just don't like that possessional, uncontested marking game that footy's got at the moment."

Roos, the Sydney premiership coach who knows a little of life as a damned winner, said criticism of Wallace was misplaced. It was looking at the effect, not the cause.

"I think sometimes people fail to grasp the real problem," Roos said. "The real problem is Adelaide didn't pick anyone up. I mean, if I was the crowd, I would be booing Adelaide, not Richmond, because the only way you can actually chip the ball around is if you've actually got a free player.

"The idea of AFL football is to pick your opponent up as soon as the opposition has got the ball. If (the Tigers) choose to put players behind the ball and in the back half, the simple solution for Adelaide to get the ball back is to go 18 versus 18 and then Richmond have got no free players. If they had done that, then that would have ended the chipping."

Full article: http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/22/1148150187544.html
Title: Wallace says history behind Sheedy sledge (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2006, 01:56:08 AM
Wallace says history behind Sheedy sledge
23 May 2006   Herald Sun
Mark Stevens

TERRY Wallace last night questioned whether the ghosts of 2000 had played a part in Kevin Sheedy sledging Richmond for playing "basketball crap" in its upset of Adelaide.

As Bulldogs coach, Wallace masterminded a similar, against-the-odds, win against Sheedy's Essendon six years ago.

The Dogs' Round 21 triumph ruined Essendon's bid to go through a season unbeaten.

Wallace, who used a basketball-inspired zone defence to upset the Bombers that night, wondered if Sheedy was still smarting about missing a chance to create history.

"Sheeds has always been a very big person on history. I still think that (defeat) would burn in the back (of his mind)," Wallace said.

"It's like some of mine – the '97 preliminary final and the '84 Grand Final – we all have those."

The Tigers coach scoffed at suggestions he used basketball tactics to sink the Crows on Saturday, but said he did not take Sheedy's comments personally.

"I know Sheeds well enough. I've had a lot of fun with Sheeds along the way and I think we've had a good rapport," Wallace said.

Wallace yesterday received strong support from Tigers president Gary March.

"He (Sheedy) is a coach that's under pressure at the moment and he probably lashed out," March said.

"I'm not worried about Essendon – we beat them. It's water off a duck's back for Terry, too. We've got other teams to play that I'm more worried about."

Wallace did not know of Sheedy's comments until he sat down to watch Fox Footy on Sunday night.

When asked if he considered using keepings-off tactics to conquer West Coast on Sunday, Sheedy replied: "You can play that basketball crap all the time . . . you win four points, but you never go anywhere."

Wallace soon realised he was in for a hectic start to the week.

He said he had no contact from Sheedy yesterday. "To be honest, I don't expect to. Some things you may expect some sort of contact, but certainly not this one," Wallace said.

Wallace also found an ally in Tigers legend and traditionalist Tom Hafey, who supported the tactics – as long as they remained a one-off.

Although Hafey has strong concerns about the direction of the game – claiming anyone could win stats at times – he said four points could be more important than aesthetics.

"The important thing is the side has a win," Hafey said.

But Hafey has warned the Tigers not to repeat their tactics this week.

"You're not going to win premierships with that style, I've got no doubt about that," Hafey said. "These teams who do that often try it the next week and get annihilated."

Sydney coach Paul Roos said the real culprit was Adelaide, for its slow response to Richmond's strategy. "If I was the crowd, I would be booing Adelaide," Roos said.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said there would be no kneejerk reaction to the bizarre day of record-breaking stats.

"The Laws of the Game committee meets at least twice a year and won't make a decision on one game or a select group of games. It looks at the game as a whole," Anderson said.
 
 http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19225414%255E20322,00.html
Title: Re: Wallace says history behind Sheedy sledge (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2006, 01:17:17 PM
"He (Sheedy) is a coach that's under pressure at the moment and he probably lashed out," March said.

Really  ???  :rollin :lol :clapping :rollin  ;D

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"I'm not worried about Essendon – we beat them. It's water off a duck's back for Terry, too. We've got other teams to play that I'm more worried about."


Me too  ;D

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AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said there would be no kneejerk reaction to the bizarre day of record-breaking stats.

"The Laws of the Game committee meets at least twice a year and won't make a decision on one game or a select group of games. It looks at the game as a whole," Anderson said.
 

Poor AA - muddled again it would seem.... I mean fair dinkum when doesn't the AFL have a kneejerk reaction to anything ;D
Title: Gone fishing for four points (HUN by T Wallace)
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2006, 03:24:46 PM
Gone fishing for four points
23 May 2006   Herald Sun
Terry Wallace

MINUTES after our victory against Adelaide on Saturday, I spoke to the players and warned them the game would spark varying opinions.

We knew Richmond supporters would care only about claiming four points against a team we supposedly had no hope of beating, while those who are concerned about the aesthetics of the game would be calling for blood.

What I didn't anticipate in this conversation was the fuel that was added to the fire by Kevin Sheedy on Sunday.

How Richmond got embroiled in Sheeds' post-match media conference is quite bemusing and, in some ways, insulting.

In my tenure as a coach and media analyst I have been embroiled in my fair share of controversy, so all I do now is have a chuckle and get on with the next task at hand.

But for those hundreds of thousands of basketball fans who take their kids around every weekend, the game, at times, seems an easy pot shot for the "bully boy" mentality of some football people.

It's true that as a kid I grew up loving basketball, playing in junior representative sides.

Ten days ago, I gave up my Saturday night after our 118-point loss to Sydney to speak to the Victorian under-18 squad that was preparing for the national titles.

In my junior sporting days I have no doubt I was discriminated against by footy fathers because of my basketball background.

Eventually I left my local area because these people were not open-minded enough to accept that I actually had enough skill in both games to be worthy of selection.

Yet 35 years later it appears this mentality still exists.

The facts of Saturday's game were that our game plan had nothing to do with basketball.

In that sport you need to move the ball out of the back court within 8sec and you have a shot clock that guarantees the game remains at a rapid attacking pace.

What we did on Saturday was much more like fishing.

We threw out a lure for Adelaide to stop flooding numbers behind the ball.

Our idea was to lure the Crows to playing one on one instead of having their wings and half-forwards push down defensively and then run in a tidal wave back to their goals.

Sheeds should understand that this is called transition and all transitional games around the world – soccer, hockey, basketball – have tempo play involved.

To suggest you can't win the premiership playing tempo football is quite ridiculous. Anyone who knows our game will tell you Sydney is the master of this style of play.

To all Tigers supporters, be assured we are developing for future success and working on a style of game that is attacking and creative.

In our three victories on end leading up to our Round 7 loss to Sydney, we were the No. 1 inside 50 team in the AFL.

The hat-trick culminated in an attacking victory over Essendon in the Dreamtime game at the MCG.

Our club had also set its sights on developing a group of young players. The club has 30 players under 24 years of age, 11 teenagers and 20 under the age of 21.

Although our record stands at 4-4, we have tried more players at senior level than any other club this year.

This controversy reminds me of the furore that broke out from the evening I coached the Bulldogs in Round 21, 2000.

That night we were playing the rampaging Essendon, which was striving to go through the season unbeaten.

The team at the time was devastated by injury so we put a plan in place to play a zone defence to restrict their superstars. This was a basketball tactic and I wonder whether Sheeds is still smarting because he would have been in the record books for all time.

Just like 2000, on the weekend we went into this game massively undermanned.

What has been lost amid all the tactical discussion is that I had a group of players who were tough enough to win first use of the footy, tackled hard and kept the opposition under pressure for four quarters.

I think their performance in this area has been undersold.

The state of the game is important to everyone who is a stakeholder. But fans still want to be able to come through the turnstiles knowing their team will be doing everything in its powers to get a victory in each and every game.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19225107%255E25877,00.html
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 23, 2006, 04:46:38 PM
Bombers coach errs by turning on his own kind
By Caroline Wilson
May 23, 2006

IN A weekend of football-related media stunts that blurred the lines between theatre and reality, it was fitting that Kevin Sheedy chose after a record seventh loss to turn the spotlight not towards his 16th-placed Bombers but instead to his old foe, Terry Wallace.

Fitting but out-of-line, unsporting and not a little hypocritical. No one has ever denied what the legendary Essendon coach has done for the game. Andrew Demetriou told this columnist on the weekend an AFL job was waiting for Sheedy whenever he wanted it.

But neither can it be denied that the old fox at times can turn on his own. Nor can it be disputed that Sheedy himself has sacrificed the more spectacular and even sporting elements of football in the name of victory. And who could blame him?

Sheedy invented icing the clock. The 15-metre penalty was expanded to 50 metres two decades ago in response to Essendon's tendency to jump on opponents who marked and showed even the slightest sign of playing on. Remember Michael Long's treatment of Troy Simmonds in the 2000 grand final? Sheedy had no issue with that.

He remained on the front foot early yesterday, telling his old teammate Kevin Bartlett on SEN that he had been watching the Richmond-Adelaide game on TV but turned it off — presumably in disgust. He said that flooding was ruining the game and should be outlawed.


Certainly it ruined his perfect record in 2000 when Wallace's Bulldogs flooded and inflicted the Bombers' only loss for the season. But on Saturday it was Neil Craig who initially flooded, not Wallace, who simply took Adelaide on at its own game and won.

Later yesterday Sheedy back-pedalled to The Age and conceded he might have picked on the wrong coach. The truth is he shouldn't have picked on anyone. Wallace, who played basketball for years, was emblazoned on the back page of one newspaper yesterday in basketball gear.

Sheedy said on Sunday: "You look at Terry, you look at me and we're very different people. I hope." That comment could be taken as somewhat personal. The fact is that two days ago his team put in a gallant performance against a premiership favorite and lost.

On Saturday Richmond did the same and won, albeit in a far inferior spectacle. The young Tigers, who have not experienced what it's like to win on even a semi-regular basis, learnt a thing or two about self-belief.

Fans do not blindly accept a win here and there in a rebuilding period as the be-all and end-all. But you don't need to question whose supporters went to bed happier on Sunday.


This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/22/1148150187553.html
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 23, 2006, 05:05:04 PM
Article in today's Gold Coast Bulletin by John Salvado

"Sheedy not grinning - or winning"

Whoever coined the phrase that "winners are grinners and losers can please themselves" would be entitled to raise a quizzical eyebrow about Kevin Sheedy's comments regarding Richmond and coach Terry Wallace.

For the vast majority of Sheedy's extraordinary 26-year AFL coaching tenure the Bombers have indisputably been winners.

As Sheedy is so fond of saying, his coaching record reas four premierships from seven grand final appearances - plus two one-point preliminary final losses and only six seasons without any  September action.

The comparison with Richmond's record since 1982 could hardly be more stark.

The team which rode roughshod over the competition by winning five flags between 1967-80 has falled on the toughest of times, with only two finals campaigns in the last 23 completed seasons.

In that time the Tigers have flirted with bankruptcy and gone through 11 coaches.

So with Essendon propping up the ladders with a dreadful seven-game losing streak, what does Sheedy do?

He tees off at Wallace's tactics in Saturday's victory over premiership favourites Adelaide.

(.... then the bit about winning premierships not playing basketball ....yadda yadda yadda...)

The Tigers went into the Telstra Dome clash having lost their last eight matches to the Crows.

TAB Sportsbet listed Adelaide as the near unbackable favourites at $1.11 with Richmond the roughshod of the round at $5.75.

So it's hardly surprising the Richmond theme song with sung with even more gusto (there you go Oxx!) after the Tigers recorded a famour three-point win.

Coaches often get mroe credit - and blame - for the on-field fortunes of their team than they deserve.

But this was a victory that had Wallace's fingerprints all over it.

The ultra-high possession style that meant Richmond finished the game with an all-time record of 181 marks - all but 18 of them were uncontested - was crucial in ensuring the victory.

Unattractive?  Yes.

Effective?  Absolutely.

Certainly, losing Crows coach Neil Craig had no problems with the Tigers' tactics.

So Richmond improved their win-loss record to four-four and sit outside the top eight on percentage only.

And Essendon are last.

No wonder Wallace took Sheedy to taks for suggesting he was the only one building towards a premiership.

Wallace also stressed the keepings-off style was not something he planned to implement on a regular basis.

Perhaps the most surprising of all, Sheedy got personal.

"Terry can do what he wants to do, you look at Terry and you look at me, we're very different people - I hope," said Sheedy, a playing legend at Tigerland before changing stripes to coach the Bombers.

"It's none of my business (you got that right), if he wants to play a game of billiards up the back the good luck to him."

Given his time over again Sheedy would probably have kept personalities out of it.

One other thing worth remembering is that the wily Essendon boss is the master of diversion.  And this spat has certainly drawn attention away from the Bomber's off-field woes.


John Salvado is apparently from AAP.
Title: Basketball Terry (Sportal)
Post by: one-eyed on May 23, 2006, 05:30:38 PM
Basketball Terry
4:22:40 PM Tue 23 May, 2006
Angus Morgan
Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond coach Terry Wallace has made light of Kevin Sheedy's "basketball crap" jibe by jiving into his regular Tuesday media conference twirling a basketball on his finger to the accompaniment of the Harlem Globetrotters' signature tune, 'Sweet Georgia Brown'.

Wallace said he didn’t take personally Sheedy's curt criticism of the Tigers' 'keepings-off' tactics which helped the club to secure a famous victory over Adelaide at Telstra Dome on Saturday.

"You can play that basketball crap all the time … you win four points, but you never go anywhere," Sheedy replied when asked if the Bombers should have played 'keepings-off' against West Coast on Sunday.

Wallace said his grand entrance to his media conference reflected just how seriously he'd taken the debate in the media over the past 48 hours.

"I haven’t spoken to Kev, and I didn't think there was any need from either party," Wallace said.

"I took (his comments) openly and didn’t take it as a personal affront, but it had no issue from a personal basis."

Wallace said that he was especially looking forward to matching it with Sheedy in round 21 when the clubs are drawn to clash at the MCG.

"We'll cross paths somewhere along the line - I think he was talking about a Hot August Night when the two sides meet each other next time around," Wallace said.

"I have enormous admiration for Sheeds as a coach and from my aspect I have no problems with regards to our relationship whatsoever."

Quizzed about personnel changes for Saturday's match against Geelong at Skilled Stadium, Wallace kept the one-liners coming.

"We'll probably get the opportunity to get a couple of players back into the line-up - that'll be pleasing for us," Wallace said.

"I don’t know whether it's Gaze and Anstey that will be coming into the side…"

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=268054
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Tigertailz on May 23, 2006, 06:29:01 PM
 :lol

What a pee-er TW was today with his press conference!

Coming out spinning a basketball with globetrotter music in the background!!!

I love it! :cheers

IN YOUR FACE SHEEDS!!!!!
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 23, 2006, 11:28:57 PM
:lol

What a peeer TW was today with his press conference!

Coming out spinning a basketball with globetrotter music in the background!!!

I love it! :cheers

IN YOUR FACE SHEEDS!!!!!

Just saw Wallace with the basketball on Sports Tonight. Great stuff!  :ROTFL
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2006, 01:50:00 AM
From: Sheedy stirs Tigers, now for the Eagles
The Age
May 24, 2006

Sheedy, who after criticising Richmond coach Terry Wallace for his tactics in its shock three-point win over Adelaide on Saturday, admitted yesterday that the Tigers were possibly closer to a premiership than his Bombers.

"Obviously they are at the moment because they beat us by a kick last time," he said referring to the two-point Tigers win at the MCG in round six. "But by round 21, they mightn't be."

Full article: http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/23/1148150255039.html
Title: Pagan says he wanted to use our 'keepings off' tactic
Post by: one-eyed on May 24, 2006, 06:30:04 PM
Poor ol' Sheeds lol.

Tigers stole our thunder: Pagan
3:34:46 PM Wed 24 May, 2006
Jennifer Witham
Sportal for afl.com.au

Carlton coach Denis Pagan says the Tigers have beaten the Blues to the punch by playing keepings off to defeat the Crows at Telstra Dome last Saturday.

Pagan told his Wednesday media conference that he was considering employing the very same tactics against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium this coming Saturday, but will now have to think up something new.

"(The Tigers) were very good with what they did," Pagan said.

"I wish they hadn't of done it then…because we were going to do it anyway. So we can't now and we'll have to come up with something different."

While Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy was outspoken in his criticism of the tactics, Pagan – who said he was on the edge of his seat towards the end of the game - congratulated Richmond for employing them and coming away with the win.

"I just thought Richmond were outstanding. It was a fascinating game to watch, I was intrigued by it, and the way they did it and executed it was sensational," Pagan said.

"They've stolen our thunder so we'll have to come up with something different now."

Full article: http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=268341
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 25, 2006, 07:30:44 AM
Bogut backs Terry Wallace
24 May 2006   Herald Sun
Jim Wilson

AUSTRALIAN basketball superstar Andrew Bogut has made himself available for the Boomers' world title campaign and the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

But the NBA star's return to the national squad was overshadowed at yesterday's announcement when he was quizzed about the row between rival AFL coaches Terry Wallace and Kevin Sheedy.

Bogut left no doubt what he thought of Sheedy's "basketball crap" comment about Wallace's successful tactics against Adelaide on Saturday.

"That basketball crap is played all around the world and it's probably the No. 2 sport in the world behind soccer," Bogut said.

"So it can't be too crap if every country in the world is playing it. I think footy is only played in how many countries? One I think."

It was a measured dig from someone who has grown up in Melbourne and is an AFL fan.

Bogut said after watching Richmond's win, Wallace's tactics would become common practice at the elite level.

"I think a lot of teams are going to adapt that style now and you can win like that," Bogut said.

"It's ugly but if you get the win and get to the Grand Final, fans will be happy."

Boomers coach Brian Goorjian said he enjoyed watching Wallace's tactics, but believed the AFL would eventually have to look at rule changes.

"I think Terry did an outstanding job and I think it was great for the sport," Goorjian said. "One of the things that has transpired in basketball is the half-court line and 24sec clock. I have always thought it was a matter of time that strategies like that are put in place in football.

"You control the tempo of the ball, have less kicks at goal, keep the game close and have a chance to win. Football over the course of time will have to change its rules."

Goorjian said rules similar to the half-court line and 24sec clock would eventually come into football.

Bogut said he was committed to raising the profile of basketball in Australia.

"I'm trying to promote the game more and want more kids picking up a basketball, as opposed to a footy, or a rugby or soccer ball," Bogut said.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Fishfinger on May 25, 2006, 04:37:24 PM
Essendon could have off-loaded Sheeds to us at the end of 2004. Should have.
After this week, I'm so glad he wasn't available because I have no doubt he'd now be our coach.

His statement on 5AA that Ramanauskas will not play again has me convinced he's lost perspective. Lost his touch. Lost the plot.
It may well be true, and it's obviously his opinion. He should not have made it public until he had told Adam first though.
I would have sympathised that it was an unfortunate gaffe if he'd come out and said so but, no, instead he comes out trying to defend what he said.
Insensitive and unprofessional in the first instance. Arrogant when subsequently questioned. I think it would make a lot of people at the club angry.

For the first time in 20+ years I am feeling smug and content that Essendon have him and Richmond don't.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 25, 2006, 06:37:45 PM
Sheeds had his chance at the end of 99 to return and he said no. Now like KB no one cares if he comes back to Punt Road or not. We've thankfully moved on and are better off for it.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Tigertailz on May 25, 2006, 11:21:55 PM
As of this afternoon(thursday 25th) the lord of the martians still had something to say about TW.

A friend of mine who is a regular poster on Bomber Blitz ran into Sheeds at AFL house while delivering a 12000 signatured petition against the AFL's plan to introduce anti clash guernseys.

Sheeds believes that TW isnt looking at "the big picture" in regards to making Richmond a team whose playing style will get the big crowds happening again.

In saying that though he also mentioned that as a result of comments and events from the last few days, the next time essendon and richmond meet in august should ensure a 70000+ crowd .

Looking foward to that Hot August Night!
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2006, 03:26:52 AM
Sheeds is basing that on one game where it was the Crows fault that the keepings off tactics lasted virtually the whole game. Didn't he see our previous 7 weeks of run and carry attacking footy?! Was he a sleep when we played his mob 3 weeks ago?!  ::) He used us and particularly Wallace as a diversion from 7 straight losses and has made a total goose of himself.

The Hot August Night match is our home game so the Tiges will be at the 'G in large numbers. Wonder how many Dons fans will turn up now they have jumped off the bandwagon?! We didn't have only 32,000 turn up to one of our "blockbuster" games against Carlton.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 26, 2006, 06:14:08 AM
Sheeds is basing that on one game where it was the Crows fault that the keepings off tactics lasted virtually the whole game. Didn't he see our previous 7 weeks of run and carry attacking footy?! Was he a sleep when we played his mob 3 weeks ago?!  ::) He used us and particularly Wallace as a diversion from 7 straight losses and has made a total goose of himself.

The Hot August Night match is our home game so the Tiges will be at the 'G in large numbers. Wonder how many Dons fans will turn up now they have jumped off the bandwagon?! We didn't have only 32,000 turn up to one of our "blockbuster" games against Carlton.

like i have said many times mt,


pardon my french

but f sheedy, and f kb! they are not richmond ppl, they are fakers! its not hard to see kbs heart lies with the bulldogs and sheedy essendon! they are both f o s and i hope they never ever have anything to do with us again!

sheedy must have been sleeping, but the old bastard did also say he may use those keepings off tactics in future!!!

and u r spot on, all diversion tactics, he is good at trying to play with minds, just like he toyed with us just to boost his contract price at the bombers.

just a thought, its easy to be a god coach at a club with loads of money, and imo , pagan is right, the blues are not the only team to have made those mistakes, and imo, i believe 2 other vic clubs have done so also and gotten away with it, i wobder who they are !!!!
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2006, 01:12:54 PM
Was he a sleep when we played his mob 3 weeks ago?!  ::)

No - he was working out ways to get Dean Rioli to 100 games :banghead

That's one of Sheeds (IMO) biggest problem at the moment he continues to focus on these romantic notions (Rioli playing 100 games, Jimmy captaining on ANZAC day) insteand of focusing on getting the Bombers competitive and developing young players.

I mean seriously how can you say you are building for the future when you recruit a 30 year old who'll give you maybe 2-3 years instead of an 18 y.o. who will give you 10?

Here's a tip look after your own backyard Sheeds and let us (RFC) continue to do what we've been working on for the last 2 years, that is bringing our kids through and we'll talk about in 12 months ;D
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2006, 04:51:10 PM
That's one of Sheeds (IMO) biggest problem at the moment he continues to focus on these romantic notions (Rioli playing 100 games, Jimmy captaining on ANZAC day) insteand of focusing on getting the Bombers competitive and developing young players.

Add getting Heffernan back to Windy Hill and trying to turn Courtney Johns into a footballer lol. Sheeds went the quick fix and now is paying the price.

Just going on from X comment, didn't the Bombers get pulled up for salary cap breaches in the late 90's but nowhere to the extent the Blues did?
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 26, 2006, 06:09:10 PM
That's one of Sheeds (IMO) biggest problem at the moment he continues to focus on these romantic notions (Rioli playing 100 games, Jimmy captaining on ANZAC day) insteand of focusing on getting the Bombers competitive and developing young players.

Add getting Heffernan back to Windy Hill and trying to turn Courtney Johns into a footballer lol. Sheeds went the quick fix and now is paying the price.

Just going on from X comment, didn't the Bombers get pulled up for salary cap breaches in the late 90's but nowhere to the extent the Blues did?

blues have been done twice iirc. once for sure mt, but i think it may have been twice. the blues were stiff compared to thebombers fine
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 27, 2006, 05:04:34 PM
Hey Sheeds, did you watch the attacking footy we played today and the 17 goals we kicked?  :wallywink
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 27, 2006, 09:29:40 PM
Mini-me said to me today that Kevin Sheedy should be on "Grumpy Old Men" - classic :thumbsup

(BTW her team had a close win at netball team - Mini-me great in defence - kept the opposition goalless in the second half after trailing by 2 at half-time) :thumbsup
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 28, 2006, 12:06:06 AM
I wonder what excuses and deflections Sheeds will come up this week after the second bottom side spanked the Bombers by 10 goals at home. Is insipidness part of building a premiership side Kevin?!  :lol.

ps. way to go Mini-Me Julz
Title: Winning teams are for mugs (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on June 02, 2006, 01:33:22 AM
Winning teams are for mugs
Cameron Noakes
The Age
June 2, 2006

THIS is a message for Terry Wallace and the Richmond Football Club: stop winning. It's really annoying, it's draining my betting accounts and it's making my column look bad.

I don't understand why Terry doesn't listen to Sheeds and go and build a premiership team rather than this "winning games" malarky.

Football is not about winning, Terry. It's about sitting on the bottom, going to Docklands and getting spanked by one of the league's lightweights. That's what it's about. If you think sport is about winning, Terry, you are a fool.

And what have you done to Kayne Pettifer? Can you remind him that he still is Kayne and not Able, or Peter Knights, or whoever the hell he thinks he is at the minute. He's a 10-touches, a couple-of-fumbles, one-goal-three guy, not 21 touches, 11 marks and a speccy a week.

Richmond ($3.75) plays Freo ($1.28) this week and that game fills me with dread. Stay away!

And while I'm sending out the messages: you're a disgrace, Freo. I just think Chris Connolly and Freo are a bad relationship. And Chris, if you're reading this, dump her before she dumps you. That's a lesson I learnt when I was a young man and it gives you bragging rights when you go to the pub with your mates. Get in first and explain to your mates that Freo wasn't your thing so YOU dumped her. It's much better.

But let's get back to Sheeds and tonight's blockbuster between two teams building for a premiership (Adelaide $1.09 v Essendon $7.75). Those odds suggest that Neil Craig is doing it better, hey Sheeds?

If you're a Bombers fan and you think your team has any spirit at all, you can take the Crows at $2.50 for under 39.5, but I'm not sure.

As for other teams building for premierships, West Coast is $1.77 against the pre-season premier ($2.08). That seems to be the bargain of all time, but I guess everyone is feeling the same way and I'm going to have a look at either team under 15.5 points at $3.30 (Sportsbet).

If that doesn't appeal, have a look at the half-time/full-time double with Geelong into West Coast at $6.50.

And here's one last message for Bomber and his Cats: Sportsbet now has only seven teams that you can bet on for the wooden spoon and Geelong is one of them ($51). Even Kayne's Richmond has been suspended from spoon betting!

Disgraceful, Bomber.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/06/01/1148956482795.html
Title: Re: Winning teams are for mugs (The Age)
Post by: letsgetiton! on June 02, 2006, 08:35:18 AM
Winning teams are for mugs
Cameron Noakes
The Age
June 2, 2006

THIS is a message for Terry Wallace and the Richmond Football Club: stop winning. It's really annoying, it's draining my betting accounts and it's making my column look bad.

I don't understand why Terry doesn't listen to Sheeds and go and build a premiership team rather than this "winning games" malarky.

Football is not about winning, Terry. It's about sitting on the bottom, going to Docklands and getting spanked by one of the league's lightweights. That's what it's about. If you think sport is about winning, Terry, you are a fool.

And what have you done to Kayne Pettifer? Can you remind him that he still is Kayne and not Able, or Peter Knights, or whoever the hell he thinks he is at the minute. He's a 10-touches, a couple-of-fumbles, one-goal-three guy, not 21 touches, 11 marks and a speccy a week.

Richmond ($3.75) plays Freo ($1.28) this week and that game fills me with dread. Stay away!

And while I'm sending out the messages: you're a disgrace, Freo. I just think Chris Connolly and Freo are a bad relationship. And Chris, if you're reading this, dump her before she dumps you. That's a lesson I learnt when I was a young man and it gives you bragging rights when you go to the pub with your mates. Get in first and explain to your mates that Freo wasn't your thing so YOU dumped her. It's much better.

But let's get back to Sheeds and tonight's blockbuster between two teams building for a premiership (Adelaide $1.09 v Essendon $7.75). Those odds suggest that Neil Craig is doing it better, hey Sheeds?

If you're a Bombers fan and you think your team has any spirit at all, you can take the Crows at $2.50 for under 39.5, but I'm not sure.

As for other teams building for premierships, West Coast is $1.77 against the pre-season premier ($2.08). That seems to be the bargain of all time, but I guess everyone is feeling the same way and I'm going to have a look at either team under 15.5 points at $3.30 (Sportsbet).

If that doesn't appeal, have a look at the half-time/full-time double with Geelong into West Coast at $6.50.

And here's one last message for Bomber and his Cats: Sportsbet now has only seven teams that you can bet on for the wooden spoon and Geelong is one of them ($51). Even Kayne's Richmond has been suspended from spoon betting!

Disgraceful, Bomber.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/06/01/1148956482795.html

pure GOLD
Title: 138 reasons to play basketball lol
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 12:30:19 AM
"You're kidding, the way we played today we still get bums on seats, our fans will still come and see the next best kids play the most exciting footy.

Freaking hilarious reading this now :ROTFL

Hey Sheeds these 138 point floggings will sure get Bomber fans rushing through the gates ... TO GET OUT!  :rollin

:rollin @ Sheeds moving Courtney Johns to FB in the last quarter and Hentschel ending up with 8 goals.

LOL @ Walls telling his life story on the radio last night about how we sacked him after a identical result in 97 at Footy Park.

Anyone for a game of basketball?  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Fishfinger on June 03, 2006, 01:07:32 AM
You've got an evil streak mt. I'm enjoying it.  ;D :thumbsup
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on June 03, 2006, 04:18:47 AM
You've got an evil streak mt. I'm enjoying it.  ;D :thumbsup

 ;D

They're not happy campers on Bomberblitz  ;).

The ironic thing is Sheeds would be right to blame us this week. The Tiges knocking off the Crows is the main reason why the Crows didn't let up the whole game last night lol. 

Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on June 10, 2006, 09:35:52 PM
Before the Game asked Lids about Sheeds basketball comments and what was the players response -  the sarcastic one was "at least we win games"  ;D

Miller was on 3aw and said he was annoyed by Sheeds comments as it was just a diversion tactic and from memory he mentioned his argy-bargy with Sheeds stems back to Mark Harvey (leaving Essendon?) and some agreement that was reneged on.
Title: Wallace proven right again
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2006, 11:39:59 PM
Sheeds can call what we did against the Crows "basketball crap" all he likes but tonight Crows-Saints game showed you will only get run off your feet and sliced and diced by foot if you play into the Crows' hands and don't make them come to you and man up.
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: Moi on June 16, 2006, 11:49:54 PM
Tezza's head must be getting like Eddie's with the cred he's achieved this year.
He's doing fantastically and deserves the five years to set this club up.
Don't think anyone could have done better than what he's achieved.

But i'm trying not to get ahead of myself - bloody hard though not to lol
Title: Re: Sheeds takes aim at Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on August 21, 2006, 05:39:06 PM
I would love nothing better this week than us running out and blowing the bombers away with direct fast footy to stick it up Sheeds and his "basketball crap" comment. We'll beat your "premiership side" lol both ways Sheeds  :yep. Be funny as if Carlton could knock off the Pies and we hand the Dons the spoon  :rollin.
Title: Sheeds and his excuses
Post by: mightytiges on August 27, 2006, 05:45:29 AM
LOL @ Sheeds and his excuses after the game:

Quote
"Don't get me wrong, we should have won tonight. Richo won the game for them,''

Check the scoreboard Sheeds :wallywink. 3 wins in a row against your mob  :thumbsup.

Quote
"And I'm talking about Hille, Hird, our backline. To try and carry seven players needing a game, either less inexperienced or been out for quite some time or haven't had a game for ages, that's a damn good effort," Sheedy said.

Lids, Raines, Polo, Tuck, Schulz, Patto, Blingers, White, Foley and Howat all with less than 50 games experience and at least half of them with less than 20 experience plus no Newman, Browny, Cogs, Gas, Kellaway or Thursfield. That's 4 out of our backline Sheeds  ::).