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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 10, 2022, 04:30:51 AM
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Touchwood we got through unscathed.
Fire away with your changes, if any?
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Out: McIntosh, Ross (Sub)
In: Vlastuin, Lambert (Sub)
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Out: McIntosh, Ross (Sub)
In: Vlastuin, Lambert (Sub)
Be great ins but don't think either is ready. Bring Vlas through the 2s slowly.
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Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
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Lambert for Ross is my guess
Winning sides don’t make changes
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Lambert played limited game time coming back from injury so he won't be considered IMHO. Will need to play a full VFL game first
Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Think you might be onto something here but don't think we'd give a kid a debut as a sub. And we shouldn't (again my opinion)
I'd bring Caddy in as the sub. Senior big body
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Agree I'd say Lambert is 2 weeks away at least. Think he will get 3 qtrs next week and then a full game after that.
Pending all goes well, which needs some luck. So he's a while away but great signs.
I don't think I'd change anything, unsure we need to give Cotch and Edwards a rest, it's round 5.
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Lambert played limited game time coming back from injury so he won't be considered IMHO. Will need to play a full VFL game first
Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Think you might be onto something here but don't think we'd give a kid a debut as a sub. And we shouldn't (again my opinion)
I'd bring Caddy in as the sub. Senior big body
Good point re: sub debut.
Edwards need some VFL time though and Cotchin should be managed.
Ross brings nothing - so dump him.
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Assuming Lambert and Vlas are good to go.
Out: Ross, Edwards (let’s call it managed but really has been very poor the first month), Parker/Castagna (1 drops out and the other becomes the sub)
In: Vlas, Lambert, Banks
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Why rush Lambert and Vlastuin for interstate trip. Lambert needs more fitness and Vlastuin hasn't played in 6 weeks comes through vfl.
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Lambert maybe but I dont think vlas goes through the vfl. Dimma said as much in his presser yesterday.
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Lambert should be straight back in as sub. He is a way better option than Ross and won’t play a full game as sub
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Lambert played limited game time coming back from injury so he won't be considered IMHO. Will need to play a full VFL game first
Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Think you might be onto something here but don't think we'd give a kid a debut as a sub. And we shouldn't (again my opinion)
I'd bring Caddy in as the sub. Senior big body
Caddy didn't play and looks finished. No change other than the sub.
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No change I'd say.
Just the Sub, maybe bring in Mansell
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Lambert should be straight back in as sub. He is a way better option than Ross and won’t play a full game as sub
Good chance he won't play at all as sub. One way or the other that is VFL or AFL he needs game time.
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Vlas in for sure
Miller might be the unlucky one to go out.
Or Gibcus might get a rest
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RICHMOND star defender Nick Vlastuin is in line to return this week from the hamstring injury that has hindered his season.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/740589/pressure-tigers-back-in-business-set-for-major-defensive-boost)
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Vlastuin wouldn't risk him interstate give him half a game in the vfl get up to scratch.
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Don't see any changes this week. Lambert will need to play a full VFL game to build up his match fitness and see if his body can get through a full game. And as others have said Floss will also need a run in the ressies as he hasn't played in a long while.
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IN:
Vlastuin
OUT:
Ralphsmith (unlucky)
Like you wouldn’t want to play Vlastuin if 100%
Edwards is on the edge.
Unlucky Hugo.
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IN:
Vlastuin
OUT:
Ralphsmith (unlucky)
Like you wouldn’t want to play Vlastuin if 100%
Edwards is on the edge.
Unlucky Hugo.
I was thinking this too. It’s unlucky but if vlas returns then I’d say one of Miller or Hugo needs to come out otherwise we are running too many defenders. Tarrant, Miller, Gibcus, Broad, Vlas, Short, Rioli, Hugo. They could ofcourse move Hugo fwd to see if he can offer more than Parker/Castagna.
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Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Sonsie I can understand and I even thought Brown looked to be our most composed player all game but you still want to give RCD a game when though he struggles to win ball in the Magoos?
…. Meanwhile, Lambert shows how easy life was there and played less than 2 quarters and was on 50% acceleration as if he was on a lazy afternoon stroll. :rollin
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Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Sonsie I can understand and I even thought Brown looked to be our most composed player all game but you still want to give RCD a game when though he struggles to win ball in the Magoos?
…. Meanwhile, Lambert shows how easy life was there and played less than 2 quarters and was on 50% acceleration as if he was on a lazy afternoon stroll. :rollin
Tig,
I'd like Lambert to get through a full game. He's coming off a nasty hip injury and is no spring chicken.
RCD is fully fit and I'd like to play him so we can decide if he's worth keeping after this year. I also think he could play medium forward also. But yes his lower numbers aren't encouraging. I'd rather cut him loose after a handful of dud games this year than keep him on the list hoping he makes it next year etc.
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Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Sonsie I can understand and I even thought Brown looked to be our most composed player all game but you still want to give RCD a game when though he struggles to win ball in the Magoos?
…. Meanwhile, Lambert shows how easy life was there and played less than 2 quarters and was on 50% acceleration as if he was on a lazy afternoon stroll. :rollin
Tig,
I'd like Lambert to get through a full game. He's coming off a nasty hip injury and is no spring chicken.
RCD is fully fit and I'd like to play him so we can decide if he's worth keeping after this year. I also think he could play medium forward also. But yes his lower numbers aren't encouraging. I'd rather cut him loose after a handful of dud games this year than keep him on the list hoping he makes it next year etc.
Wasn’t suggesting get lambert in yet just using him as an example on how easy the reserve league is when your an AFL player.
I wouldn’t give anyone a game unless they warranted selection at VFL level. We tried that sort of crap for 30 years and all it did was help us breed a mediocre culture that couldn’t achieve anything higher than 9th.
They only should give players a go that want it and deserve it and earn the right to wear the jumper.
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Ross Out
Vlastuin In
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Off to SA next week.
Out:
Cotchin (rest)
Edwards (rest/omit)
Ross
In:
RCD
Sonsie
Clarke (sub)
Sonsie I can understand and I even thought Brown looked to be our most composed player all game but you still want to give RCD a game when though he struggles to win ball in the Magoos?
…. Meanwhile, Lambert shows how easy life was there and played less than 2 quarters and was on 50% acceleration as if he was on a lazy afternoon stroll. :rollin
Tig,
I'd like Lambert to get through a full game. He's coming off a nasty hip injury and is no spring chicken.
RCD is fully fit and I'd like to play him so we can decide if he's worth keeping after this year. I also think he could play medium forward also. But yes his lower numbers aren't encouraging. I'd rather cut him loose after a handful of dud games this year than keep him on the list hoping he makes it next year etc.
Wasn’t suggesting get lambert in yet just using him as an example on how easy the reserve league is when your an AFL player.
I wouldn’t give anyone a game unless they warranted selection at VFL level. We tried that sort of crap for 30 years and all it did was help us breed a mediocre culture that couldn’t achieve anything higher than 9th.
They only should give players a go that want it and deserve it and earn the right to wear the jumper.
I think he was quite serviceable at AFL level with his game time.
You wanna cut him loose?
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Ross Out
Vlastuin In
Ross was technically never in. Just the unused sub.
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Thats ok take him out put in Vlastuin and use someone else as the sub - castagna coz hes ordinary or parker.
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IN:
Vlastuin
OUT:
Ralphsmith (unlucky)
Like you wouldn’t want to play Vlastuin if 100%
Edwards is on the edge.
Unlucky Hugo.
I was thinking this too. It’s unlucky but if vlas returns then I’d say one of Miller or Hugo needs to come out otherwise we are running too many defenders. Tarrant, Miller, Gibcus, Broad, Vlas, Short, Rioli, Hugo. They could ofcourse move Hugo fwd to see if he can offer more than Parker/Castagna.
Short or Rioli to play forward drop castagna and bring in Vlas?
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IN:
Vlastuin
OUT:
Ralphsmith (unlucky)
Like you wouldn’t want to play Vlastuin if 100%
Edwards is on the edge.
Unlucky Hugo.
I was thinking this too. It’s unlucky but if vlas returns then I’d say one of Miller or Hugo needs to come out otherwise we are running too many defenders. Tarrant, Miller, Gibcus, Broad, Vlas, Short, Rioli, Hugo. They could ofcourse move Hugo fwd to see if he can offer more than Parker/Castagna.
Short or Rioli to play forward drop castagna and bring in Vlas?
I wouldn’t be moving our best rebounding defender and I think the ship has sailed on Rioli as a fwd other than maybe in short stints to try and snag a goal. Hugo on the other hand is still inexperienced, still unsure at this stage where his best position will end up being. It could end up being in defence but I don’t think we’re anywhere near that stage where that’s locked in yet.
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In the Mix: Round 5
Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
13 April 2022
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=952)
Nick Vlastuin will have to get through this week at training to be deemed fit by the Tigers but should return for round five. It would make for an unlucky omission from Richmond's outfit that comfortably accounted for the Western Bulldogs on the weekend. Ben Miller could be the guy to miss, although not a like-for-like. Judson Clarke (four goals) was a VFL standout while Tyler Sonsie is also getting closer to his AFL debut. Sydney Stack may also be a chance to come in for the Tigers.
Verdict: Vlastuin in for Miller.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/740847/in-the-mix-r5-who-s-pushing-for-selection-who-s-under-the-pump-
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Don't drop Miller ffs.
Rest cotchin.
Edwards has been poor.
Shuffle the board around etc.
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Agree. Miller has to stay he is genuine Kpd size and our future kpd we dont want tarrant retireing and miller has just a hand ful of games to his name.
Fail to play this bloke and also run the risk of him seeking more opportunity elsewhere and you could not blame him he has done his apprenticeship and now in his 5th season. Hardwick will just have to reshuffle some players like he has done for favorites or god forbid even make a hard call and drop one of them.
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I'd also like to keep playing Miller at least until Grimes comes back.
Rest one of Gibcus/Cotch/Edwards this week for Vlaustin.
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Kamdyn is out due to protocols.
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Triple-premiership Tiger set to return, winger in iso
By AAP - Just now
RICHMOND is set to welcome back triple-premiership star Nick Vlastuin from injury for his first game of the season against Adelaide.
The Tigers will make at least one forced change for Saturday's Adelaide Oval clash, with winger Kamdyn McIntosh unavailable through COVID-19 protocols.
And they are no closer to finding out when superstar Dustin Martin will return from personal leave.
But 173-game defender Vlastuin's recovery from a hamstring injury is welcome news as he looks to bolster an inexperienced backline.
Hugo Ralphsmith, Ben Miller, Josh Gibcus and Daniel Rioli will benefit from Vlastuin's guidance in defence, particularly given the ongoing absence of co-captain Dylan Grimes (hamstring).
"He (Vlastuin) is one of those players that makes those around him better," Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said.
"Players walk a little bit taller with him in the side because of the way he goes about it.
"We've got a relatively inexperienced defence that is growing week by week and players like Nick help that."
Vlastuin has endured multiple injury setbacks since he was knocked out in the opening stages of the 2020 Grand Final.
The 27-year-old managed just 12 games last year - when he was sidelined for two months after knee surgery - and missed the opening month of this season.
"Internally we rate him very highly and he's had a bit of a horror run the last couple of years," Hardwick said.
"The possession game defenders are very valuable and Nick is also very good offensively as well, makes very good decisions.
"He's such an important player to the way we play the game and when he's playing his best footy generally we're having a good run.
"Hopefully we can keep him on the park for the rest of the year."
Hardwick said there is no update to Martin's status, with Richmond still unable to put a timeline on the three-time Norm Smith medallist's return.
The 30-year-old took personal leave last month and is mourning the loss of his father, Shane, who died in New Zealand in December.
"He's got our full support to go about his business and achieve what he needs to achieve," Hardwick said.
"We'll be fully supportive of that and there's no rush from our point of view."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/741057/triple-premiership-tiger-set-to-return-winger-in-iso
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What are these protocols that keep getting mentioned?
Has he caught a sniffle or walked past someone with COVID?
Anyway, this should keep Miller in the side at least. Vlastuin can play back and I would even consider Rioli on the wing, or Short.
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Kamdyn is out due to protocols.
Why don’t we call it COVID?
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Because it might just be close contact not actual Covid
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Because it might just be close contact not actual Covid
Like a leg injury vs a knee or an ankle.
If it’s covid call it covid, if it’s close contact then let’s hear about it.
From what I’m hearing, a number of covid positive cases are affected physically for more than a week despite being able to play so it’s a relevant distinction
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Move Castagna to wing and bring in Stack?
Aarts to come in to play wing?
Hugo to wing and bring in Mansell?
We have multiple options :shh
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but not all good
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Move Castagna to wing and bring in Stack?
Aarts to come in to play wing?
Hugo to wing and bring in Mansell?
We have multiple options :shh
they are all pretty much atrocious options, especially Castagna/Aarts playing wing. Mansell in as a defender would be fine. Stack into the side would be cool if he's half fit.
Personally I reckon it's a good chance to see if anyone can provide what McIntosh can defensively but more offensively..
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I'd try Castagna on the wing. Quick, fit and a good mark.
Kicking hardly worse than kmac
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Please no Aarts :P.
In: Floss, Sonsie (debut)
Out: Gibcus (rested - my Spy says he hardly trained [rehab] this week), Kmac (protocols)
B: Miller Tarrant Vlastuin
HB: Short Rioli Broad
C: Ralphsmith Cotchin Pickett
HF: Bolton Lynch Graham
F: Castagna Riewoldt Baker
F: Nankervis Prestia Dow
Int: Balta, Edwards, Parker, Sonsie
Sub: Mansell#
# Ross didn't train today so he may miss this weekend at either level. So I've got Mansell as the sub.
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Please no Aarts :P.
In: Floss, Sonsie (debut)
Out: Gibcus (rested - my Spy says he hardly trained [rehab] this week), Kmac (protocols)
I've got a Rioli feeling instead of Sonsie MT. Reckon his tackling pressure on the narrow Adelaide Oval will suit our game.
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I'd try Castagna on the wing. Quick, fit and a good mark.
Kicking hardly worse than kmac
it is worse. He's the worst kick in the country. Has a dip but he's actually gone backwards at an alarming rate the last 2 years
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Please no Aarts :P.
In: Floss, Sonsie (debut)
Out: Gibcus (rested - my Spy says he hardly trained [rehab] this week), Kmac (protocols)
I've got a Rioli feeling instead of Sonsie MT. Reckon his tackling pressure on the narrow Adelaide Oval will suit our game.
You may be right, TT. Maurice had very good game against Footscray and we do usually announce debuts rather than spring a surprise when the team is announced. My preference though is Sonsie as he consistently finds the ball which sides need now with the new rules. If Sonsie has a quiet game he'll still get 15+ possies. If Maurice has a quiet game he'll only have about 5 possies and be unsighted.
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Tom Browne on 7news stating Vlastuin in for Kmac. Not sure yet if that's the only change.
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Because it might just be close contact not actual Covid
Like a leg injury vs a knee or an ankle.
If it’s covid call it covid, if it’s close contact then let’s hear about it.
From what I’m hearing, a number of covid positive cases are affected physically for more than a week despite being able to play so it’s a relevant distinction
Agree 100% :thumbsup.
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Please no Aarts :P.
In: Floss, Sonsie (debut)
Out: Gibcus (rested - my Spy says he hardly trained [rehab] this week), Kmac (protocols)
I've got a Rioli feeling instead of Sonsie MT. Reckon his tackling pressure on the narrow Adelaide Oval will suit our game.
Great tackler but his kicking needs a lot of work.
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lmfao at the changes. Would not drop Gibcus unless he is just super super sore which i doubt.
Effectively they have bought in Vlastuin for a kid who has not done a hell of a lot wrong. Fmd what iss wrong with our mature players coming back thru the reserves and finding some touch there.
McIntosh out well imo a good thing but covid is about the only way Hardwick will do something about him.
Castagna lol and people want the biggest hack of a ball on a wing our fwd 50 entries are bad enough with out that hack playing there.
including Vlastuin who i think should come thru the ressies i would have gone with 5 changes
ins - Vlastuin, Mansell Sonsie, Stack, Lambert and i would have made RC-D SUB.
Outs - Baker has been very average, McIntosh Covid, Graham giving us very little week in week out, Edwards who has really struggled, Castagna because he is just a dud and Ross who was the sub i think.
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So, that’s 5 changes in a 7 goal win vs last year’s GF’s?
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lmfao at the changes. Would not drop Gibcus unless he is just super super sore which i doubt.
Effectively they have bought in Vlastuin for a kid who has not done a hell of a lot wrong. Fmd what iss wrong with our mature players coming back thru the reserves and finding some touch there.
McIntosh out well imo a good thing but covid is about the only way Hardwick will do something about him.
Castagna lol and people want the biggest hack of a ball on a wing our fwd 50 entries are bad enough with out that hack playing there.
including Vlastuin who i think should come thru the ressies i would have gone with 5 changes
ins - Vlastuin, Mansell Sonsie, Stack, Lambert and i would have made RC-D SUB.
Outs - Baker has been very average, McIntosh Covid, Graham giving us very little week in week out, Edwards who has really struggled, Castagna because he is just a dud and Ross who was the sub i think.
Normally I agree with half of what you say and take the rest with a grain of salt but are you high on this one? You were away and didn't see the WB game?
Baker was the bloody barometer mate.
Hardwick will bone Teague before dropping Baker after a game like last week.
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lmfao at the changes. Would not drop Gibcus unless he is just super super sore which i doubt.
Effectively they have bought in Vlastuin for a kid who has not done a hell of a lot wrong. Fmd what iss wrong with our mature players coming back thru the reserves and finding some touch there.
McIntosh out well imo a good thing but covid is about the only way Hardwick will do something about him.
Castagna lol and people want the biggest hack of a ball on a wing our fwd 50 entries are bad enough with out that hack playing there.
including Vlastuin who i think should come thru the ressies i would have gone with 5 changes
ins - Vlastuin, Mansell Sonsie, Stack, Lambert and i would have made RC-D SUB.
Outs - Baker has been very average, McIntosh Covid, Graham giving us very little week in week out, Edwards who has really struggled, Castagna because he is just a dud and Ross who was the sub i think.
Baker is the first picked and has been solid this year.
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lmfao at the changes. Would not drop Gibcus unless he is just super super sore which i doubt.
Effectively they have bought in Vlastuin for a kid who has not done a hell of a lot wrong. Fmd what iss wrong with our mature players coming back thru the reserves and finding some touch there.
McIntosh out well imo a good thing but covid is about the only way Hardwick will do something about him.
Castagna lol and people want the biggest hack of a ball on a wing our fwd 50 entries are bad enough with out that hack playing there.
including Vlastuin who i think should come thru the ressies i would have gone with 5 changes
ins - Vlastuin, Mansell Sonsie, Stack, Lambert and i would have made RC-D SUB.
Outs - Baker has been very average, McIntosh Covid, Graham giving us very little week in week out, Edwards who has really struggled, Castagna because he is just a dud and Ross who was the sub i think.
Normally I agree with half of what you say and take the rest with a grain of salt but are you high on this one? You were away and didn't see the WB game?
Baker was the bloody barometer mate.
Hardwick will bone Teague before dropping Baker after a game like last week.
Has been ordinary this year will watch for him in wb game again.
Baker aside would still like to see the underperformers get the arse.
If we had lost the WB game im asking myself who would have been in the gun.It was a game despite the eventual score we were badly beaten in several key areas and i think any open minded person would agree there are things that keep happening every week and a win like the dogs game just papers them over.
Besides my take on everything this year is primarily aimed at getting games into the youth while phasing out the older blokes.
I have seen nothing so far this year that suggests we can win the flag.
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I agree with Claw Bakers been ordinary. Hes been drinking his own bathwater.
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He's not having a good year but a couple of his actions vs WB were game changers.
A few I'd drop before him. Edwards, Castagna etc.