One-Eyed Richmond Forum

Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 16, 2022, 07:36:45 PM

Title: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: one-eyed on July 16, 2022, 07:36:45 PM
Gibcus hurt his shoulder so he will be doubtful.


Fire away with your changes?  :help
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: pmac21 on July 16, 2022, 07:53:45 PM
Too soon.  It doesn't matter.
Freo will destroy us at Marvel
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Broadsword on July 16, 2022, 07:56:37 PM
Too soon.  It doesn't matter.
Freo will destroy us at Marvel
Yep. Way too soon.

Still, ahem, digesting this one.

If I was still a kid I'd be heartbroken tonight. I remember.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: torch on July 16, 2022, 07:57:56 PM
OUT:

Coach
Players over 200 games

IN:

Kids
Rebuild

Lots of young Richmond supporters on the train ride home looking sad, some crying and parents can’t explain.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Rampsation on July 16, 2022, 08:12:43 PM
Kids got use to being winners and those clowns who put on our jumper today let everyone down.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: TigerLand on July 16, 2022, 08:23:52 PM
Out: Miller (2 weeks and two crap kick ins at the end of the game when he shouldn't be kicking in), Aarts.
In: Maurice, Clarke/Banks the sub

Send Balta back. Put Baker in midfield. Our structure was awful with Balta up forward with Baker.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: one-eyed on July 16, 2022, 09:03:23 PM
Dimma was asked if anyone of note will be back next week and he said he doesn't think so. So that means no Dusty nor Lynch.

Soldo was meant to be just the one week with that thumb but that doesn't mean he will be automatically back.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Broadsword on July 16, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
God forbid we add Soldo to that side.

Might as well tape Aarts and Castagna together into a makeshift ruckman.

Tape ... Jamie Tape -- I wish we could bring Jamie Tape in right now. Bit of ticker in the backline.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 16, 2022, 09:12:39 PM
INS: Dusty (I reckon he'll play), RCD, Rioli Jnr (to bring what was clearly lacking today = defensive pressure)

OUTS: Gibcus, Edwards (they have to make the call however harsh), Miller, Aarts
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Broadsword on July 16, 2022, 09:17:41 PM
The way this season is going we will lose enough in the next three weeks to justify bringing Edwards back for a couple of farewell games to get him to 300.

Someone should tell him to start doing frantic windmills with his arms. He's fallen off a cliff.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: pmac21 on July 16, 2022, 10:02:01 PM
Edwards has to be dropped. 
Gibcus, Aarts also out.

Bring in Banks, Clarke, RCD
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: TigerLand on July 16, 2022, 10:22:21 PM
How has nobody at the club suggested Edwards as the sub. He still ticks off games played, but can have an impact for a qtr or 2 rather than going missing for a half in a full game. Poor player management again unfortunately.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: the claw on July 17, 2022, 07:46:18 PM
coming off poor game and games

Edwards, Gibcus, Aarts, Baker, McIntosh, D Rioli, Ralphsmith, Short and Vlastuin imo.
Hope we are looking at RC-D, Ryan, M Rioli, Banks and Dusty. These blokes are an endevour to address what we have been poor in.

Hope we play with good structure. Really think we are missing an opportunity to get some games into Samson Ryan. Give the kid a go.
If people are so adverse to playing Balta fwd then swap him over with Miller. Reckon we need to just persevere with both in their current roles though.

We are screaming out for that big bodied mid still, ffs play RC-D FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.

Poor skills lack of polish and lack of footy smarts need to be weeded out also a lack of ticker needs to be weeded out. That places many in the gun take your pick. im looking at 5 changes so for me who are the 5 to go.Lets target the areas where we have been poor and try and address them to some sort of degree.

Id be happy with the following team
 
Vlastuin - Tarrant - Grimes One of Broad, Grimes or Vlastuin needs to lock down on oppo's most damaging sml/med forward.
Broad - Balta -  D Rioli

Bolton - RC-D  - Pickett We need to play the bigger bodied RC-D. I also would like to free Bolton up more. Regardless thats our best 6 atm.
Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia

Cumberland - Riewoldt - Rioli. Keep the structure, get a gameor two into Ryan and gain a bit of pressure from junior hopefully.
Martin - Miller - Ryan

Interchange from Sonsie -  Graham - Baker - McIntosh - Short - Ralphsmith - Mansell. At this point in time.For me Sonsie is a definate

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: camboon on July 17, 2022, 09:04:24 PM
While  I would like to see RCD get a shot now as  he has earn’t it , I would suggest like  Sonsie , RCD was average in a lot of games and we should make players earn their spots.

Gibcus injured his shoulder which would be a reasonable excuse might open up a spot

Others mentioned had plenty of the ball and are up there in the B&F as well as Baker and Balta who were played out of position so wouldn’t  drop them except smith who might need a rest.

Also, Edwards might need to be the sub as he is struggling to play a full game

It’s very clear that we are struggling in the key forwards area as Jacks struggles on his own against a couple of good big backmen . Our shots on goal all appear to be harder

Our desision making and skills have deserted us along with missing some key leadership recently

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Rampsation on July 18, 2022, 08:35:14 AM
Id like to see Miller given a go at CHF. He can post high goals from 50. Station him at 40 out get our guys to lower eyes and find him. Jack is cooked.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: FooffooValve on July 18, 2022, 10:01:35 AM
Out: Miller, Aarts, Gibcus
In: Soldo, M Rioli, either Dusty or Lynch.

We haven't got the option to be cautious on Martin and/or Lynch anymore. We have to win 4 out of 5, so either both of them play, or the one that is fittest.

Balta goes back if one of Martin or Lynch play.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 18, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
Out: Miller, Aarts, Gibcus
In: Soldo, M Rioli, either Dusty or Lynch.

We haven't got the option to be cautious on Martin and/or Lynch anymore. We have to win 4 out of 5, so either both of them play, or the one that is fittest.

Balta goes back if one of Martin or Lynch play.

While I understand your point.

Play them and they're not right and either one's hammy goes ping again and they are gone for the season including finals if we make it
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Andyy on July 18, 2022, 11:49:58 AM
Out
Gibcus if he's hurt
Aarts if he's alive

In:
Lynch if fit (Balta back)
Dusty if fit (Shedda sub)

If Dusty & Lynch aren't fit then I guess we need to play someone like RCD for a few games just to be sure we wanna delist him (I'm 90% convinced).
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: FooffooValve on July 18, 2022, 01:37:22 PM


While I understand your point.

Play them and they're not right and either one's hammy goes ping again and they are gone for the season including finals if we make it

Yeah I know, but it's a risk we are forced into taking. Jack just can't be No 1 banana anymore, and we need either Lynch or Martin down there (both would be great!) to straighten us up and add genuine class to a misfiring forward line. It's now or never.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Rampsation on July 18, 2022, 04:36:35 PM
Id like to find a way to debut Sam Banks this week. Miller stays in for his own development.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: one-eyed on July 18, 2022, 05:00:23 PM
Richmond will be without Tom Lynch and Dustin Martin for Friday night's clash with Fremantle at Marvel Stadium.

Meanwhile, Ivan Soldo (thumb), Sydney Stack (fractured cheekbone) and Jack Ross (knee) are all expected to be available for selection, while Josh Gibcus is still a chance to play after being subbed out of Saturday's match with a shoulder injury.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1175693/lynch-martin-to-miss-fremantle-clash
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Owl on July 18, 2022, 06:52:03 PM
Play the kids!
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: pmac21 on July 18, 2022, 06:56:55 PM
Castagna in Aarts out.  That could seriously happen
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: mightytiges on July 18, 2022, 07:19:59 PM
Castagna in Aarts out.  That could seriously happen
Oh please no!  :help

ps. Didn't that use to happen with Hyde and Tivendale?
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: pmac21 on July 18, 2022, 07:33:19 PM
Honestly I don't care who plays but the club and players need to respond to the last two weeks.   
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: mightytiges on July 18, 2022, 07:51:21 PM
Honestly I don't care who plays but the club and players need to respond to the last two weeks.
Yep and so does Dimma and the match committee with team selections and playing players in their best positions (i.e. Balta and Baker are not permanent forwards). 
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 18, 2022, 08:37:51 PM
Honestly I don't care who plays but the club and players need to respond to the last two weeks.

This I agree with!
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: crackertiger on July 18, 2022, 09:43:33 PM
Isn't just remarkable that Dimma's love children Castagna and Aarts have almost brought him down. Love is so blind.... The rest of us Richmond people are living in utter disbelief. You know what also disturbs me is that Brendan had not stepped in at some stage.

Playing favourites was always going to catch up with Damien. The dynasty is over.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 19, 2022, 01:19:41 AM
In: Stack & MRJ (need some fwd line pressure), RCD

Out: Shedda, Ralphsmith, Gibcus, Aarts

Sub: Shedda (operation get him to 300)
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 19, 2022, 07:29:47 AM
Out: Edwards, Aarts, Teague, Gibcus, Burge.

In: Stack ffs, Grigg, Lambert (coach) , Caracella, Inness, Martin, Ross to see if he can prove many wrong or dump him.

No one deserves free games to 300 with finals on the line, if they put out that rubbish. If we lose and finals are out fine otherwise best player is the sub.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 19, 2022, 12:26:28 PM
As bad as Castagna is he is a serious upgrade on Aarts - and that's saying something.

#neveragain
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Chuck17 on July 19, 2022, 12:44:54 PM
As bad as Castagna is he is a serious upgrade on Aarts - and that's saying something.

#neveragain

Agree, Castagna is much better at kicking more points
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: georgies31 on July 19, 2022, 04:04:35 PM
No to George or Aarts none of them are upgrades get the kids in.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: one-eyed on July 19, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
Team tips:

The Tigers won’t regain Tom Lynch or Dustin Martin for a suddenly crucial Friday night clash with the Dockers, both declared unavailable on Monday evening due to their respective hamstring injuries.

Josh Gibcus, subbed out of the shock loss to the Roos, could still play despite his shoulder injury while sub Jake Aarts will be under pressure to hold his spot - he’s already on the fringes of the side, and his last-minute brain-fade won’t help keep him in Damien Hardwick’s good books.

In better news Ivan Soldo (thumb), Sydney Stack (fractured cheekbone) and Jack Ross (knee) are all likely to be available - though Toby Nankervis’ availability limits Soldo’s chances of a return.

Hardwick was furious about the lack of pressure applied against North and Maurice Rioli, a somewhat surprising omission last week, could return to provide some.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-18-2022-team-tips-news-predicted-lineups-squads-injuries-changes-ins-and-outs-supercoach-analysis/news-story/396bf87778d1e698fc336571c4cea610
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: the claw on July 19, 2022, 10:29:14 PM
As much as i would like to give a game to Ryan i think Soldo will be needed to play most of the game on big Darcy. That would allow us to change it up a bit and play Nankervis fwd along with Balta or Miller.They do a similar thing with Rory Lobb playing mostly fwd and some  Ruck.

They sure are a big midfield group and in this if Ross is fit id play him and RC-D.
Would bring in maurice junior for some fwd half pressure but geez i hope they give him some licence to actually attack.3 disposals a game is not what we want we want a balanced game and we want them to worry about him hitting the scoreboard.
Crazy as it sounds would love to see Stack play as a shut down small defender ffs someone has to perform the role.

We will need all of our bigger tall defenders on board they have Taberner at 198/99, Lobb playing as the stuff at 207/107 and they have have a damn good utility tall in Logue at 194/98. They then surround them with smalls just like we do in Walters, Schultz , and Frederic.

My ins would be
RC-D, Ross, Stack, Soldo, M Rioli
My outs would be
Edwards, Aarts, Gibcus, Ralphsmith, and it means one of Short or Baker would have to go.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Damo on July 19, 2022, 10:51:59 PM
Clawski - more chance of me flapping my arms to fly to the moon than Baker being "omitted"

Ridiculous
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: eliminator on July 20, 2022, 06:40:36 AM
Ralphsmith was really poor against North and should dropped. Drop Aarts. Bring in Stack and Maurice. Have Edwards as sub.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 20, 2022, 10:47:44 AM
Drop Ralphsmith after one poor game??  You must be joking

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: TFL on July 20, 2022, 10:49:44 AM
Cant see Ralphy being dropped and Stack has missed a few games with him cheek fracture so doubt he will come in.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 20, 2022, 10:53:39 AM
Drop Ralphsmith after one poor game??  You must be joking

Actually no. Drop Ralphsmith after a number of poor games.

Reckon he's been poor the last month
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 20, 2022, 10:57:29 AM
Rubbish,

He won the Rising Star nom last week so cannot agree with that at all
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 20, 2022, 12:52:19 PM
Rubbish,

He won the Rising Star nom last week so cannot agree with that at all

he was poor against the Suns

Have a look at MT's horror movie and you'll see why. And BTW the same thing happened last week against N0rt. Bumped off the ball too easily

And with respect, I don't put too much credence in rising star nominations....

Gibcus hasn't got one yet and start to the season was brilliant
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 20, 2022, 01:08:41 PM
I don't agree at all. He was terrific against the Suns. Had his best match so far. Its the game he earned his Rising Star nom for.

He is learning how to play in defence and his outside run is excellent when utilised.

Dropping him would be everything that frustrates us about our match commitee.

The kid needs games -his improvement this year has been one of the highlights of the season.

He wasn't great against the Roos - but he'll learn from that.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: one-eyed on July 20, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
In the Mix: Round 19

Sarah Black
afl.com.au
20 July 2022


(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=952)

In terms of injuries, Richmond got through the North Melbourne loss relatively unscathed, with Josh Gibcus (shoulder) a test for this week. Newbies Tyler Sonsie and Noah Cumberland impressed and should be given another run, but substitute Jake Aarts may struggle to hold his spot. Jason Castanga (24 disposals, eight clearances) impressed in the middle at VFL level. Ivan Soldo (thumb) should make his way back into the team, which may lead to a shuffle of talls, sending Noah Balta back to defence and omitting Ben Miller.

Verdict: Soldo and Castanga for Miller and Aarts. Miller to hold his spot if Gibcus isn't right.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: the claw on July 20, 2022, 06:28:35 PM
Clawski - more chance of me flapping my arms to fly to the moon than Baker being "omitted"

Ridiculous

Agree but im looking for bigger bodies who can play inside hence Ross and RC-D.Im over being belted in clearances and contested ball and im certainly over bigger opposition players just laughing at our tackling. Reckon the last two weeks Baker has been pretty ordinary as well.

 Im looking to match up on Lobb and Darcy thats why i picked Soldo to help Nankervis in fact allow nankervis to spend significant time fwd.

Im a bit fed up with oppo players like Bloody zurhar for Geez sakes kicking 6 goals we need to find a shut down small defender and im more than happy to play Stack in the role

While not happy with Juniors overall game im happy for him to come in and provide some pressure i hope he can hit the scoreboard as well.

At least im acknowledging where we have been shiite and looking at players who may help to address the issues.

On Ralphsmith i think he has been ordinary but have been happy to see them put games into him. people should not let 20 disposals against gcs cloud their judgment on his game.A lack of tackles and ineffective ones as well has been a real problem and when it comes to the physical stakes we get sweet stuff all from him.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: mightytiges on July 20, 2022, 08:38:40 PM
The Dockers one wood is their contested footy in the midfield. Dominate that they win; get matched or lose and they lose. So IMO we need to bolster our midfield rotation. They play a taller forward line and will try to stretch us down back so Balta has to play back. For structural reasons, I would also bring back Maurice simply for his forward ground level pressure. As for Sheds, he's been a champion but if he is to get to 300 then it has to be as the sub as he can give us something in short bursts now.

In:  Soldo, Ross, RCD, M.Rioli.

Out: Edwards, Gibcus (inj), Miller, Ralphsmith, Aarts (sub).


B:   Balta      Tarrant      Vlastuin
F:   Lobb       Taberner    Walters

HB:  D.Rioli    Grimes     Short
HF:  Schultz     Fyfe      stuff

C:  Pickett   Cotchin      McIntosh
C:  Mundy   Brayshaw    Acres

HF:  Baker  Cumberland  Graham   
HB: Walker     Cox          Ryan         

F:   Bolton    Riewoldt    M.Rioli
B:   Young      Pearce      Clark

R:  Nankervis   Ross        Prestia   
R:  Darcy         Brodie     Serong

Int:  Soldo, Sonsie, RCD, Broad   
Int:  Aish, Chapman, Colyer, Logue

Sub: Edwards
Sub: Banfield
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: georgies31 on July 20, 2022, 10:26:34 PM
Miller staus in yeah made a few mistakes,  but who didn't coming along nicely.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 20, 2022, 11:32:38 PM
I don’t mind Ralphsmith but he is purely an outside player atm of which we have plenty ahead of him. We didn’t have a pure small forward last week and the kangas of all teams were waltzing out of D50 as easy as you like. MRJ didn’t have a good game at vfl level but he is our no.1 pressure player by far. Also stack was in ripping form before the cheekbone fracture so would like to see him come in too to play a similar role.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: mightytiges on July 21, 2022, 05:36:39 PM
Miller staus in yeah made a few mistakes,  but who didn't coming along nicely.
For mine, if Miller stays then either Soldo doesn't come in and Balta plays 2nd ruck or Soldo comes in and we play one less mid (RCD doesn't come in). I prefer Balta down back though and especially if Lobb is out then I don't see the need for Miller.

However, Dimma and the MC will probably keep playing Balta forward :-\ with no Lynch so Miller will probably keep his spot (especially if Gibcus is out).
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: Rampsation on July 21, 2022, 05:40:02 PM
Bring in Banks and Brown. Give the kids a taste against a decent opposition.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dockers?
Post by: the claw on July 21, 2022, 09:28:12 PM
Cannot believe at the very least RC-D has not been picked. Are they blind down there we keep on getting belted at contested ball clearances and lack big bodies in the midfield. Lately RC-D addresses all these things.
Not sure what is wrong with Ross either but his bigger body would not go astray and in fairness to him he was finding some form before injury.

Lets not mention tackling eh we apparently are doing alright in this. Even dimwit should be able to see just how easy the opposition are offloading  when we tackle.

Not a fan of any player getting a game who only provide pressure, afl players just have to provide more than that. But fmd every single supporter can see we need someone who can put their defensive runners under the pump Would have thought after last week it would have been one of the first things looked at and Maurice junior would get the nod.

Soldo well have never really been a fan but this week i think he is needed against big Darcy.

Have always felt all sides need two genuine key forwards and to compliment them either an agile quicker  third tall type or a big ruck/fwd depending on the opposition.
This week id have no problems with Nankervis spending more time fwd along with Riewoldt and one of Miller or Balta i think we compliment the three talls with Cumberland,Bolton, Rioli and would even have rotated RC-D thru there given his height and size.

I think we are in denial we are not acknowledging shortcomings on the list and we certainly have the head in the sand when it comes to areas we are getting beaten up in. I also think we are finding it impossible to make calls on blokes who have shared in the success and  who are clearly favorites.