One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 15, 2022, 05:08:50 AM
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Next up is Graham.
In his 6th season, Jack played 20 games to take his career tally to 97. He played all but one game up until round 22 but missed the final round of the season and the Elimination Final with a toe injury.
Season Highlights:
● 30 disps (15 kicks 15 hballs), 7 marks and 6 tackles in Rd 8 27-pt win over Collingwood at the MCG (7 May 2022)
● 25 disps (14 kicks 11 hballs) and 3 marks in Rd 3 33-pt loss to St Kilda at Marvel Stadium (3 Apr 2022)
● 24 disps (10 kicks 14 hballs) and 5 marks in Rd 16 35-pt win over West Coast at the MCG (3 Jul 2022)
● 22 disps (14 kicks 8 hballs), 6 marks and a goal in Rd 18 4-pt loss to North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium (16 Jul 2022)
Career stats to date:
Games Kicks Hballs Disp. Marks Tackles G.B Assists Clear. In50 Re50
2017 5 6.0 8.0 14.0 1.8 7.0 5.0 0.4 3.2 2.3 1.0
2018 18 7.9 5.9 13.9 1.7 5.9 6.3 0.2 1.2 2.2 0.9
2019 16 9.6 7.4 17.0 2.3 7.1 8.3 0.6 2.4 3.7 0.9
2020 16 6.9 8.2 15.1 1.9 4.5 2.2 0.5 1.9 2.8 0.8
2021 22 10.0 9.0 19.0 2.5 5.5 11.7 0.7 1.8 3.9 0.9
2022 20 9.3 8.8 18.1 2.9 4.8 8.2 0.5 1.9 4.2 0.9
https://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2770
https://www.stuff-graham
How did we all rate Graham's season?
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Not sure where he fits if we get Hopper/Taranto unless we decide on a run with role. Gradually went backwards this season, hopefully toe related.
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Trade bait for me his replaceable.
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Considering he was carrying a pretty nasty injury for most of the season
And given his role within in the team
Thought he was very good this season. Will be interesting to see where he finishes in the B&F. Think it will surprise folks.
Still see him as the next captain of the Club
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It's interesting to see people call Jack 'trade bait'.
I dont really agree with that.
We are bringing in Taranto and Hopper for more midfield depth.
To trade out a midfielder would seem counter productive to that.
Also he's a damn good player and person too.
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I gave him a 6. A handful of great performances and then a lot of mediocrity, injury or no. If he was injured he probably shouldn't have been playing thanks Dimma.
He is a B grader which is fine but Taranto and Hopper would be upgrades and I understand georgies' sentiment re: tradeable
It's interesting to see people call Jack 'trade bait'.
I dont really agree with that.
We are bringing in Taranto and Hopper for more midfield depth.
To trade out a midfielder would seem counter productive to that.
Also he's a damn good player and person too.
They're upgrades on him. In terms of team structure I can see Graham being pushed out by these two, however with Cotch retiring soon and Dusty getting on it's worth keeping him.
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My logic is doesn't get enough of the ball , injuries and we are getting upgrades on him if crows or another Vic team offer a nice second rounder I'll take it.
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
You really have a superiority complex these days don’t you.
And you know what should make you laugh more than the thought of trading out graham (which I don’t necessarily agree with btw) is calling an 18 year old with 1 season in the vfl a bust every chance you get.
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Quality person.
Good footballer. (Leads the tackle count?)
True Richmond man.
Future captain.
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Not one I would trade, will be better without injury and with good players around him
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
You really have a superiority complex these days don’t you.
And you know what should make you laugh more than the thought of trading out graham (which I don’t necessarily agree with btw) is calling an 18 year old with 1 season in the vfl a bust every chance you get.
You still upset I don’t rate Jack Ross?
Your opinion means sfa to me , but clearly mine does to you 👍🏻
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Quality person.
Good footballer. (Leads the tackle count?)
True Richmond man.
Future captain.
My god we finally agree. His selfless efforts in 19 ticks off your first 3 categories.
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Sorry, not feeling well at the moment. 😁
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
You really have a superiority complex these days don’t you.
And you know what should make you laugh more than the thought of trading out graham (which I don’t necessarily agree with btw) is calling an 18 year old with 1 season in the vfl a bust every chance you get.
You still upset I don’t rate Jack Ross?
Your opinion means sfa to me , but clearly mine does to you 👍🏻
Since when did I rate jack Ross? If he happens to play a good game I recognise it just as I do when he plays a bad game. It’s not that deep.
I enjoy reading everyone’s different opinion on topics, that’s the whole point of a forum. What I don’t like is people presenting their opinion as fact, putting down players and other posters opinions to do so.
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
Really after one season Brown won't make it how about you and wait and see. Plenty players have played well in final series and moved on.
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a nice second rounder :lol Look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens.
you blokes make me laugh. Do you remember what he did in those finals series? Clearly you have forgotten. I haven’t.
You really have a superiority complex these days don’t you.
And you know what should make you laugh more than the thought of trading out graham (which I don’t necessarily agree with btw) is calling an 18 year old with 1 season in the vfl a bust every chance you get.
You still upset I don’t rate Jack Ross?
Your opinion means sfa to me , but clearly mine does to you 👍🏻
Since when did I rate jack Ross? If he happens to play a good game I recognise it just as I do when he plays a bad game. It’s not that deep.
I enjoy reading everyone’s different opinion on topics, that’s the whole point of a forum. What I don’t like is people presenting their opinion as fact, putting down players and other posters opinions to do so.
Ooh dear, you are more precious than i thought. You must have had a bad day, so on that basis I will bite.
I have no idea who or what the stuff you are talking about? On reflection of your previous post Ross has not been in the vfl for 1 year, and is not 18. You must be talking about Brown as the player "I’m putting down".
For any avoidance of doubt, these are the only 2 comments I have made on T Brown, possibly ever.
“look at what we did with the pick when we selected Browne and he was in the teens”
“The rest are a dime a dozen and I think especially T Brown is a total bust at this stage” The key word is “at this stage”. Laughable how you find that offensive. You must be a joy at home.
If you have an issue with people presenting opinions as facts then you are in the wrong forum. :lol :lol :lol
RCD has been slagged from pillar to post, and not by me, but that isn't an issue to you. Many have formed the same opinion of Ross, but again not an issue for you.
When Ross plays a rare good game that is acknowledged. That doesn't mean i cant say that he is a average footballer because those games are few and far between. 6 back end descent games doesn't mean jack.
When a poster wants to trade out Jack Graham for a pick which will most like be a bust then i will call that out as i see fit, rightly or wrongly.
Lastly, I cant believe i wasted my time replying to that garbage. :banghead
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Adding “at this stage” doesn’t make the statement any better. He’s 18/19 years old and has been in the system 1 season and yet to debut at AFL level.
I try to call out any overly negative comments on any player as at the end of the day they represent the Richmond Football Club. In the specific cases you raised of Ross and RCD, I’d try to do the same however atleast those players have been in the system 4/5 years with AFL exposure so people are actually making judgements on a much larger sample size.
Anyway none of this has anything to do with Jack Graham so I’ll stop spamming the thread.
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Considering he was carrying a pretty nasty injury for most of the season
And given his role within in the team
Thought he was very good this season. Will be interesting to see where he finishes in the B&F. Think it will surprise folks.
Still see him as the next captain of the Club
:clapping
Quality person.
Good footballer. (Leads the tackle count?)
True Richmond man.
Future captain.
:clapping
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Saying someone is tradable doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t rate them.
For me, anyone outside of our absolute top liners is tradable, for the right price of course.
I like Fridge but he’s a fourth-choice mid and a borderline fringe player.
Putting him in the “untradable” category is silly.
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Will always respect Jack Graham. What he did with his busted shoulder in that prelim should never be forgotten.
However, he cannot possibly be a future captain. There's no guarantee he's even in our best 22 week in week out. Gotta get a grip on reality sometimes when it comes to captain talk.
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For me, anyone outside of our absolute top liners is tradable, for the right price of course.
There isn’t one player in the competition that isn’t a trade option
All it comes down to is the price
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Spot on crows and dons have a nice second rounder I would take it.
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Would've been handy in the Elim Final on Neale :P.
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Spot on MT, if he played we would have won imo
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We don't even tag anyway look at last 2 games Neal played put a tag on him from get go and keep him quiet.
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Yeah Dimma probably wouldn't have tagged Neale anyway.
It's the thing that irritates me most about Dimma and his coaching.