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AFL Round 16
Brisbane vs RICHMOND
Thursday, 29th June @ the 'Gabba
Start time: 7:20 PM (AEST)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912
Any OERites going?
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Yes, going
On the 6am flight home as I have to work on the Friday :help
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Good luck WP,
after that disaster last year i think il skip that place for a few years.
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Good luck WP,
after that disaster last year i think il skip that place for a few years.
If I didn't have family up there I wouldn't be going
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Against Brisbane it's win the contested ball & clearances and keep our inside 50 entries away from Harris Andrews.
ps. avoid the ARC and don't stuff up simple rushed behinds either :P.
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Brisbane hope to regain former skipper Dayne Zorko from injury ahead of a high-stakes clash with Richmond.
Zorko has missed the Lions' past two wins with a calf issue, after previously serving a one-match suspension.
But with a tight turnaround to face finals-hunting Richmond at the Gabba on Thursday night, coach Chris Fagan hopes Zorko can help rejuvenate his team.
"So we'll see where he's at on Thursday night - it might be good to have a couple of fresh people in, given that we haven't got too long a turnaround.
"Richmond have been in very good form so we'll have to be on our best form next week.
"They've got a really good chance to push their way into the eight, so it's another high-stakes game.
"I'm sure our players will be really motivated, they were really motivated tonight.
Jack Gunston and Daniel Rich are two weeks into a training block after they were dropped, and aren't in contention to return.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/lions-eye-dayne-zorko-return-for-crunch-tigers-clash-c-11073339
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Against Brisbane it's win the contested ball & clearances and keep our inside 50 entries away from Harris Andrews.
ps. avoid the ARC and don't stuff up simple rushed behinds either :P.
Andrews is overrated and useless. Make him accountable and he wilts. Control clearances we win .
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Looks like we’re going to be 2 points out of the 8 at the conclusion of the round. All teams having played the same amount of games.
Huge game for us Thursday night, Brisbane have been up and down all year but not sure if they’ve lost at the Gabba all season? Plus we have the game after the bye hoodoo to navigate.
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I may have gone the early crow….
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Brisbane is one of those clubs I take delight in beating . Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve always assumed along with the Sydney clubs and Gold Coast they are well funded by the AFL to survive
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Looks like we’re going to be 2 points out of the 8 at the conclusion of the round. All teams having played the same amount of games.
Huge game for us Thursday night, Brisbane have been up and down all year but not sure if they’ve lost at the Gabba all season? Plus we have the game after the bye hoodoo to navigate.
The weekend's results have been decent for us. Spots 5th-8th are wide open with 9 H/A matches left.
Agree TK, coming off the bye is the biggest question mark? Hopefully, we've noticed how other teams have been lethargic post-bye, addressed it, and we'll be ready to go on all cylinders on Thursday night :pray.
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We've normally been pretty good after the bye. Super confident about this game. Have a feeling Dusty will reannounce himself as the king. He's been building and I have a feeling he will make a statement Thursday night
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We've normally been pretty good after the bye. Super confident about this game. Have a feeling Dusty will reannounce himself as the king. He's been building and I have a feeling he will make a statement Thursday night
In general play in recent weeks, Dusty is nearly back to his best. He just needs to finish off his goalkicking. This year (aside from the Geelong game), he has been missing those snaps as well as bounce through goals he used to eat up. Start nailing those goals and he will tear games apart once again.
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We've normally been pretty good after the bye. Super confident about this game. Have a feeling Dusty will reannounce himself as the king. He's been building and I have a feeling he will make a statement Thursday night
In general play in recent weeks, Dusty is nearly back to his best. He just needs to finish off his goalkicking. This year (aside from the Geelong game), he has been missing those snaps as well as bounce through goals he used to eat up. Start nailing those goals and he will tear games apart once again.
Exactly, that's why I feel this coming Thursday he will make a statement.. his radar will be online.. he has a great record in Brisbane.. kicked many bags there. I'm predicting 30 touches and 4 goals minimum
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Looks like we’re going to be 2 points out of the 8 at the conclusion of the round. All teams having played the same amount of games.
Huge game for us Thursday night, Brisbane have been up and down all year but not sure if they’ve lost at the Gabba all season? Plus we have the game after the bye hoodoo to navigate.
The weekend's results have been decent for us. Spots 5th-8th are wide open with 9 H/A matches left.
Agree TK, coming off the bye is the biggest question mark? Hopefully, we've noticed how other teams have been lethargic post-bye, addressed it, and we'll be ready to go on all cylinders on Thursday night :pray.
I was listening to Sam Mitchell interview on SEN on Friday I think it was and he said they’ve noticed how teams have all been losing after the bye and he addressed it with his players. They still came out and played like absolute crap lol
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Looks like we’re going to be 2 points out of the 8 at the conclusion of the round. All teams having played the same amount of games.
Huge game for us Thursday night, Brisbane have been up and down all year but not sure if they’ve lost at the Gabba all season? Plus we have the game after the bye hoodoo to navigate.
The weekend's results have been decent for us. Spots 5th-8th are wide open with 9 H/A matches left.
Agree TK, coming off the bye is the biggest question mark? Hopefully, we've noticed how other teams have been lethargic post-bye, addressed it, and we'll be ready to go on all cylinders on Thursday night :pray.
I was listening to Sam Mitchell interview on SEN on Friday I think it was and he said they’ve noticed how teams have all been losing after the bye and he addressed it with his players. They still came out and played like absolute crap lol
Our record after the Bye:
2022 Won by 12 vs Port @ MCG
2021 Lost by 40 vs St K @ MCG
2020 -
2019 Won by 33 vs St K @ Docklands
2018 Won by 26 vs Syd @ Docklands
2017 Lost by 9 vs Syd @ MCG
2016 Won by 42 vs Bris @ MCG
2015 Lost by 20 vs WCE @ MCG
2014 Lost by 17 vs Melb @ MCG
2013 Won by 38 vs Adel @ MCG
2012 Lost by 19 vs Adel @ Footy Park
2011 Lost by 10 vs Syd @ SCG
2011 Lost by 57 vs WCE @ Subiaco ... two byes in 2011.
https://afltables.com/afl/teams/richmond/allgames.html
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... it’s 0-8 for teams coming off the bye playing a non-bye team that week.
They are not good numbers for the six clubs back playing this coming weekend who had the week off in Round 15.
Carlton, GWS, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Richmond and the Western Bulldogs are all in action in Round 16. All play a team who has already had its bye.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/25/the-numbers-that-dont-bode-well-for-the-weekends-bye-teams/
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RICHMOND might be sitting outside the top eight and has a few new faces, but Brisbane co-captain Harris Andrews says the Lions still hold the triple premiers in the highest regard.
Ahead of Thursday night's crucial contest at the Gabba, Andrews said the third-placed Lions were on high alert.
"They're a sensational team, they've got so many premiership players in there," Andrews said.
"They had the wood over us for a very long period of time. Over the last three years we've probably evened the ledger a little bit, had as many wins as losses against them.
"They're still playing the same way they have in recent years, the way they like to knock the ball on and get the ball going forward.
"When the ball is at ground level, they're extremely dangerous, guys like Shai Bolton and Dustin Martin … their ability to move the ball from end to end really quickly."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/957816/lions-wary-of-prowling-tigers-ahead-of-blockbuster-battle
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The delayed flight to Brisbane has pushed back the open training session at the 'Gabba by an hour.
Please note that unfortunately due to our flight out of Melbourne being delayed we have had to adjust, with gates now opening from 3:30pm (AEST) this afternoon.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1673893138610683904
Open Training
Wednesday, June 28
The Gabba
Entry via Gate 2 at 3:30pm (AEST)
Training from approx. 4:00pm to 4:30pm
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/football/open-training
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Umpires tomorrow night:
Nick Foot (2)
Andrew Stephens (12)
Nathan Williamson (22)
Jacob Mollison (32)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#line-ups
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Mollison booooo
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Mollison booooo
No issue with Mollison
But Foot? Clueless
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Brisbane v Richmond preview
Andrew Slevison
SEN
29 June 2023
One of the games of the round kicks us off on Thursday night.
Brisbane are 6-0 at the Gabba so far this season and enter this clash with Richmond on the back of two straight wins.
The Tigers have the unenviable task of meeting the Lions at their fortress off the bye. Teams in that situation who are playing a team who did not have the bye the week prior are 0-8 in 2023, which doesn’t bode well for Andrew McQualter’s side.
But they have won three straight games and now have a sniff of finals.
The Tigers owe the Lions after their heartbreaking two-point loss in the Elimination Final last year. This will be the first meeting between the sides since.
Brisbane co-captains Harris Andrews and Lachie Neale are in top form, while Josh Dunkley, Eric Hipwood, Joe Daniher and Zac Bailey are all in decent nick which provides a major test for the Tigers.
The visitors will be led by Tim Taranto in the middle, while old stagers Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin have hit form in recent weeks.
Richmond travels to Brisbane in season-best form but their momentum has been curtailed by the bye and the Lions are very hard to beat at home.
For that reason, Chris Fagan’s Brisbane gets the nod in what should be a fairly tight encounter.
Tip: Brisbane by 12 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/28/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-round-161/
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Any idea on what the weather will be like there. ?
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Any idea on what the weather will be like there. ?
Will be clear. Bit dewy. Probably around 16deg when the game starts, down to 13deg when it finishes
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Any idea on what the weather will be like there. ?
Will be clear. Bit dewy. Probably around 16deg when the game starts, down to 13deg when it finishes
Cheers
Was hoping rain may come but dew slippery will suit us👍
Edit: fixed quoting.
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Near full strength I'd give us a strong chance as we match up well against Brisbane but too many crucial outs I fear will hurt us sadly :(. If we were to pull this off undermanned, playing interstate, versus a top 4 side on their heap and coming off the "dreaded" bye, it would be our best win post-2020 dynasty.
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Any idea on what the weather will be like there. ?
Will be clear. Bit dewy. Probably around 16deg when the game starts, down to 13deg when it finishes
Cheers
Was hoping rain may come but dew slippery will suit us👍
Currently 19 degrees after being a max of 22 today.
Brisbane area
Cloudy morning, decreasing into the afternoon and evening. Winds westerly 25 to 40 km/h tending southwesterly in the morning then becoming light in the late evening.
http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/forecasts/brisbane.shtml
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Any idea on what the weather will be like there. ?
Will be clear. Bit dewy. Probably around 16deg when the game starts, down to 13deg when it finishes
Cheers
Was hoping rain may come but dew slippery will suit us👍
Currently 19 degrees after being a max of 22 today.
Brisbane area
Cloudy morning, decreasing into the afternoon and evening. Winds westerly 25 to 40 km/h tending southwesterly in the morning then becoming light in the late evening.
http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/forecasts/brisbane.shtml
Cheers👍
Nearly 8.30am here. Already 30degrees. And humid as. Feels like Darwin!
Hope it gets slippery there tonight, keep the ball on the ground
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1674325916175171584
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Brisbane v Richmond at the Gabba, 7.20pm AEST
LATE CHANGES
Brisbane: None
Richmond: Dustin Martin replaced in selected side by Noah Cumberland
SUBSTITUTES
Brisbane: Darcy Fort
Richmond: Hugo Ralphsmith
ODDS
Brisbane: $1.28
Richmond: $3.60
https://www.afl.com.au/news/958114/final-teams-subs-locked-in-for-lions-v-tigers-live-from-7-20pm-aest
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#line-ups
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We'll need a big game from Samson tonight if Harris Andrews matches up on Jack. Hopefully the dry conditions make marking easier compared to the wet weather footy we've played in recent weeks.
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Serves Cameron right. Cheap shot.
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How was that not HTB?
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:facepalm
You don't cough it up. Just take the tackle and set up for the stoppage.
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Playing like we're coming off the bye :-\. Reactive and sloppy by hand.
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Should have nailed that Juddy.
1 - 15
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Bakes crumb and quick snap misses.
2 - 15
3 shots for 2 behinds :P.
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Shorty :gotigers
Again from long range :clapping.
Rich 1.2-8
Bris 2.3-15
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Oh look another pissant 55m goal from Short!
Thought KMac should have been paid a tree for an arm chop.
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So a two handed basketball throw over the head is a handball now is it? ::)
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Hopper's snap misses.
9 - 17
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Can we get Tigers fricking front and square at aerial contests! :banghead.
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Our forward handpasses over the top to running teammates have been sloppy as hell so far. Just gifting soft turnovers :scream.
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Too many Tigers half asleep out there.
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Why is number 7 allowed to take marks uncontested?
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Quarter time
Richmond 1.3-9
Brisbane 4.6-30
Goal: Short.
Soft as! Just being out-worked inside and out.
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Getting killed in the middle and no presence up forward when we do rebound it. Not looking good.
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This has the smell of a real blow out.
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Pickett's head's clearly not in it.
Would also help if we could stick a stuffing tackle. :banghead
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Team are 0-8 coming off a bye against teams who played the week before. Looks like that’ll continue
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Did someone say soft! -19 in contested possies in one quarter.
Stats to 1/4 time:
Disposals: 77 - 96 ... ( contested: 24 - 43 ) :help
Clearances: 4 - 14 .... ( centre: 1 - 4 ) :help
Inside 50s: 9 - 19
Tackles: 14 - 10
Hitouts: 9 - 11
Frees: 3 - 3
Broad 8 disposals
Cotch 6
Floss 5
Ross 5
Hopper 5
Clarke 5
Bolton 5
Balta 5
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#player-stats
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Pickett's head's clearly not in it.
Would also help if we could stick a stuffing tackle. :banghead
10 seconds of magic against the giants aside, Pickett as a forward ain’t it.
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Hard to win games when you are getting smashed in the middle. Just not switched on.
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Curse of the bye :help
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Another turnover and Brisbane goal from our aimless handballs.
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Nank is getting destroyed by the bigO.
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lmao no 50 for dissent there?
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We've asleep tonight. Ignore an open man until he's matched up and then kick long to a Lion :facepalm.
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We are gonna cop a thumping tonight. The cracks have been painted over the last few weeks
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Witches hats stuff this
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Nank is getting destroyed by the bigO.
Having one of his shockers that he pulls out at least once a month. :help
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Nank is getting destroyed by the bigO.
Beat me to it. He is terrible.
Why is it against Brisbane he become their best midfielder. :help
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Oh great! Short has done a hamstring. Just to make the night even worse than it is :banghead.
Hugo subbed on.
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Pickett's head's clearly not in it.
Would also help if we could stick a stuffing tackle. :banghead
Yep been dogcrap
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Daniher diving for the gold medal now …. ::)
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Can't think of a worse performance. We are literally not doing anything.
I marked this down as a loss tho, seems the rest of the club did too.
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Just no connection between the players at all.
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When you allow the opposition to run easily out the front of stoppages, mistackle them and then lose a 2 vs 1 contest gifting them another goal, you know we didn't turn up to play.
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I could get a kick for Brisbane tonight. Hipwood just lead up from the goalsquare with no one going near him. All our players were just ballwatching.
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We’re on our way to a 100 point belting here.
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I’ve already switched over to the cricket.
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We're so off and soft tonight, we'd struggle against West Coast if we were playing them tonight :help.
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I’ve already switched over to the cricket.
Think that’ll be the go at half time.
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Can't do anything right tonight.
1.7 :P
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LMAO how was that not htb?
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
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Cumberland ankle. If it's bad, we can't replace him as we've already used our sub after Shorty went off.
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Half-time
Richmond 1.3 1.7-13
Brisbane 4.6 9.7-61
Goal: Short
Would've been better off forfeiting. We haven't turned up to play anyway and at least we would've avoided these injuries :P.
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Goals: Several Short
Fixed.
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Playing scared....
Too many players missing.
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Dusty still carrying us. :shh
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
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Our mids should be totally embarrassed
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Been ordinary but gee the delivery to him has been crap too.
They keep kicking it to him on the wing like he's 2m tall
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😔
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Yeah it's all his fault - btw how's Speedy Gongraham going tonight? Is he playing? :shh
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Our mids should be totally embarrassed
So many down tonight. But the mids have been horrible. Even when they do get it they give it straight up.
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Been ordinary but gee the delivery to him has been crap too.
They keep kicking it to him on the wing like he's 2m tall
Without lynch we don’t have a forward with any presence. When we are just resorting to bombing it long and kicking it in under pressure we’ve got no chance.
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Yeah it's all his fault - btw how's Speedy Gongraham going tonight? Is he playing? :shh
:shh
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Stats to 1/2 time:
The Lions have played almost a perfect quarter, running at a disposal efficiency of 90 per cent for the term. Amazingly 88 per cent of their 52 kicks have also been effective. :help
It continues to be one-way traffic from stoppages. The Lions lead clearances by seven this quarter and by 17 for the match. Brisbane has outscored Richmond by 14 points from this source.
Lachie Neale has been dominant on the inside for the Lions with 16 disposals, nine contested possessions and seven clearances. Hugh McCluggage has been equally impressive on the outside with 17 disposals at 94 per cent efficiency, seven post-clearance contested possessions and four inside 50s. :help
Disposals: 145 - 188 .... ( contested: 54 - 68 ; uncontested: 86 - 113 ) :help
Efficiency%: 70 - 80 :help
Marks: 42 - 56
Clearances: 12 - 25 .... ( centre: 3 - 8 ) :help
Inside 50s: 20 - 35 :help
Tackles: 30 - 22
Hitouts: 24 - 21
Frees: 8 - 4
Broad 14 disposals
Hopper 11
Ross 11
Balta 10
Bolton 10
Taranto 9
Vlastuin 9
Cotchin 8
Clarke 7
D.Rioli 7
Baker 6
Kmac 5
Nank 5
Ryan 5
Grimes 4
Riewoldt 4
Short 4 .... ( subbed off in second quarter )
Young 4
Cumberland 3
Graham 3
Pickett 3
Ralphsmith 3 ... ( subbed on in second quarter )
Miller 0
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#player-stats
Way too passengers when more than half the team have had less than half a dozen disposals in a half.
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Been ordinary but gee the delivery to him has been crap too.
They keep kicking it to him on the wing like he's 2m tall
Without lynch we don’t have a forward with any presence. When we are just resorting to bombing it long and kicking it in under pressure we’ve got no chance.
Problem is when they do keep it low or lower the eyes the kicks are either shyte or we fumble it. :shh
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Change it up a bit. Send Nank forward. Play Miller in the Ruck. Play Pickett in the middle.
Do something...
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There’s no point signalling players out (even my comment about nank was useless). Fact is bar broad, balta and vlas there isn’t a single player out there that is playing anywhere up to it.
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FMD now Cumberland's gone... :facepalm
Paper cut man is likely to be fresh second half. Seriously though, he is an ordinary player.
Yeah it's all his fault - btw how's Speedy Gongraham going tonight? Is he playing? :shh
Having a shocker but he has plenty of runs on the board. Keep defending paper cut :whistle
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..and you keep defending every other useless dud on the list... :shh :shh
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..and you keep defending every other useless dud on the list... :shh :shh
Premiership players :shh ok
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Cumberland still able to play albeit proppy. On the bench though.
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Cotch great weighted kick inside 50 to Miller who chips across to Hopper. Goal! :gotigers
Hooray! Broke a run of 8 Brisbane goals in a row.
Rich 2.7-19
Bris 10.7-67
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Clearly Cumberland's fault that kick from Clarke was shyte.... :shh
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Hugo's was worse. Hits the Lion between a free Cotch and Jack.
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Any good movies to watch? :help
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Rioli's tackling really has gone to shyte..... :shh
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Any good movies to watch? :help
The Untouchables on SBS. Sums up our lack of pressure tonight.
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Imagine traveling all the way up to Brisbane and having to catch the red eye tonight just to watch this pathetic effort. :rollin
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Rioli goal :gotigers
Here's the comeback :snidegrin.
Rich 3.7-25
Bris 11.12-78
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Around the neck twice on Baker = no free ::).
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C’mon :gotigers :gotigers
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Rioli nice kick to Hopper. Goal! :gotigers
Yep the comeback is on :snidegrin.
Rich 4.7-31
Bris 11.12-78
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Watching the cricket lol
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He took the mark Balta -what were you trying to prove? :banghead
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And another goal assist Noah -good stuff.... :banghead :banghead
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We can't do anything right tonight. Everything we try stuffs up.
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And another goal assist Noah -good stuff.... :banghead :banghead
Been our best by a mile.
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Schoolboy stuff at the stoppages. All Tigers sucked into the honeypot leaving another easy exit on the outside for the Lions which gifted them another goal.
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And another goal assist Noah -good stuff.... :banghead :banghead
Been our best by a mile.
Vlastuin's first name in Nick champ. :shh
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Our mids are so poor - an embarrassing performance
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3/4 time
Richmond 1.3 1.7 4.7-31
Brisbane 4.6 9.7 15.13-103
Goals: Hopper 2, Short, D.Rioli
Need a mercy rule!
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Let’s keep this under 100 shall we.
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And another goal assist Noah -good stuff.... :banghead :banghead
Been our best by a mile.
Vlastuin's first name in Nick champ. :shh
Solid but Balta for mine. Broad second. Vlastuin third. The rest all together
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I feel you, Krusty.
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Dusty is out with the flu. They can't send all players home... It's quite possible a number of players out there tonight are suffering from cold or flu like symptoms. It's happened before. I remember years ago when the saints flogged us mid season. Many players out there that night had flu symptoms. It's possible. Very much unlike like Richmond tonight. Sometimes crap happens and you need to move on. They never admit to it as it makes them look like they are searching for excuses. Just a thought. Maybe that makes me a troll
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Stats to 3QT:
Disposals: 225 - 284 .... ( contested: 87 - 109 ) :help
Clearances: 20 - 34 .... ( centre clearances: 5 - 15 ) :help.
Inside 50s: 29 - 53 :help
Hitouts: 34 - 28
Tackles: 45 - 34
Frees: 12 - 9
Balta 19 disposals
Broad 18
Hopper 17
Taranto 16
Rioli 16
Vlastuin 15
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#player-stats
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Dusty is out with the flu. They can't send all players home... It's quite possible a number of players out there tonight are suffering from cold or flu like symptoms. It's happened before. I remember years ago when the saints flogged us mid season. Many players out there that night had flu symptoms. It's possible. Very much unlike like Richmond tonight. Sometimes crap happens and you need to move on. They never admit to it as it makes them look like they are searching for excuses. Just a thought. Maybe that makes me a troll
Certainly looks like it tonight.
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Ross to Cumberland. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 5.8-38
Bris 15.13-103
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Dusty is out with the flu. They can't send all players home... It's quite possible a number of players out there tonight are suffering from cold or flu like symptoms. It's happened before. I remember years ago when the saints flogged us mid season. Many players out there that night had flu symptoms. It's possible. Very much unlike like Richmond tonight. Sometimes crap happens and you need to move on. They never admit to it as it makes them look like they are searching for excuses. Just a thought. Maybe that makes me a troll
What about all the other poor performances this year ? This is just a reality check, we aren’t that good. We’re actually miles off.
Certainly looks like it tonight.
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Dusty is out with the flu. They can't send all players home... It's quite possible a number of players out there tonight are suffering from cold or flu like symptoms. It's happened before. I remember years ago when the saints flogged us mid season. Many players out there that night had flu symptoms. It's possible. Very much unlike like Richmond tonight. Sometimes crap happens and you need to move on. They never admit to it as it makes them look like they are searching for excuses. Just a thought. Maybe that makes me a troll
What about all the other poor performances this year ? This is just a reality check, we aren’t that good. We’re actually miles off.
Certainly looks like it tonight.
What other poor performances. Been in every game except tonight.
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Is it over yet?
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The season? Yes - yes it is.... :shh
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It's very evident the players tonight are lethargic. I'm sure many have the same issue as dusty
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That must be our first uninterrupted chain of possession from the back half to set up a shot at goal.
Ross kicks the goal.
Rich 6.9-45
Bris 16.14-110
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Dusty is out with the flu. They can't send all players home... It's quite possible a number of players out there tonight are suffering from cold or flu like symptoms. It's happened before. I remember years ago when the saints flogged us mid season. Many players out there that night had flu symptoms. It's possible. Very much unlike like Richmond tonight. Sometimes crap happens and you need to move on. They never admit to it as it makes them look like they are searching for excuses. Just a thought. Maybe that makes me a troll
What about all the other poor performances this year ? This is just a reality check, we aren’t that good. We’re actually miles off.
Certainly looks like it tonight.
What other poor performances. Been in every game except tonight.
Just coz we’ve been in games doesn’t mean they weren’t poor performances. How many games have we thrown away ? I’d say we’ve had equally as bad as games as tonight - brisbanes just taken advantage the most.
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We still can't rush a behind :facepalm.
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It's very evident the players tonight are lethargic. I'm sure many have the same issue as dusty
How’s the pizza in Palermo?
I bet no one is putting bloody fruit on pizza there.
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Feel for young. He tries hard but he’s just not up to the level and his mistakes are so costly, you can tell he feels so bad.
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I reckon we've kicked it into another player 8 times tonight and every time it's rebounded Brisbane's way. It's just one of those nights where nothing goes right :P.
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Broad to get three weeks for Ah Chee running his head into Broads shoulder
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Like how the ball magically transforms into a bar of soap whenever we touch it.
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Training drill stuff for Brisbane .
Brisbane has kicked 14.9.93 from intercepts tonight, its second highest result in this area this season. The Lions 47 midfield intercepts have yielded 10.6.66.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#timeline
We've been soft and non-competitive tonight.
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We actually got a goal (Clarke).
Rich 7.9-51
Bris 20.14-134
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Broad to get three weeks for Ah Chee running his head into Broads shoulder
Given it's a Richmond player and the MRO makes it up as they go, that could actually happen :help.
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Our worst loss since R23, 2016. That was prior to the dynasty.
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Thank gawd it's over.
Final Score
Richmond 1.3 1.7 4.7 7.11-53
Brisbane 4.6 9.7 15.13 20.14-134
Goals: Hopper 2, Short, Ross, D.Rioli, Cumberland, Clarke.
It's called not turning up to play and getting a lesson from the top 4 opposition that did. :help
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That was just awful.
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Ah, you know what it's like going back to work after a week off. Our draw means percentage doesn't matter, I wasn't expecting a win tonight.
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It was a complete performance from Brisbane tonight who dominated three major areas - stoppages, contest and territory. The Lions won clearances by 24, contested possession by 26 and inside 50s by 30. They also outscored Richmond 14.9.93 to 6.8.44 from turnover in a comprehensive display.
Team Stats:
Disposals: 302 - 380 .... ( contested: 112 - 138 ; uncontested: 184 - 237 ) :help
Efficiency%: 71 - 78
Kicks: 181 - 248
Handballs: 121 - 132
Turnovers: 72 - 73
Marks: 83 - 112 .... ( contested: 11 - 12 )
Tackles: 53 - 43
Clearances: 22 - 46 .... ( centre: 5 - 22 ; stoppages: 17 - 24 ) :help
Inside 50s: 38 - 68 :help
In50 eff.%: 45 - 56
In50 marks: 13 - 21
In50 tackles: 8 - 9
Hitouts: 40 - 38 .... ( Nankervis 32, Ryan 8 ; McInerney 29, Fort 8, Daniher 1 )
Bounces: 11 - 9
One %ers: 42 - 42
Frees: 12 - 14
Individual possies:
Balta 24
Hopper 22
Broad 21
Ross 21
Taranto 21
Vlastuin 20
Bolton 18
D.Rioli 18
Baker 15
Cotchin 14
Clarke 13
Nankervis 12
Young 11
McIntosh 10
Pickett 9
Grimes 8
Ralphsmith 8 .... ( subbed on 2nd quarter )
Cumberland 7
Riewoldt 6
Ryan 5
Miller 4
Short 4 .... ( subbed off 2nd quarter with a hammy )
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4912#player-stats
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Don’t care, proud of our boys tonight, baker gets his head taken off x 2, no free kick, shocking umpires all night, a lot of things could have gone either way, ….
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Ashcroft is pretty special , can we get him ….
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Did something tonight I never do
I left early. Walked out after the Taylar Young goal
Pathetic, insipid display
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The rugby try-cum-tunnel ball assist to Daniher - another Tyler Time special.... :shh
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Bad night all around. Still kicking down the line way too often, making it a 50/50 contest and it got rebounded back more times than not. We do not have the foot skills to pinpoint multiple short passes. The lions' foot skills were spot on, they were pinpointing passes at will.
38 inside 50's, our midfield was obliterated
Seems Cumbo is the new Castagna first targeted after a heavy loss. I say this having read some posts on other forums and social media (big mistake), should've stayed off social media.
He's played 16 games. First game back in a month. Thought he presented well taking 5 marks and kicking a goal. Had 7 disposals.
Now let's compare the others, Clarke who tried hard but didn't use it well. Dropped marks like it was a wet night. DE46%
Jack 6 disposals, 1 mark 0 scoreboard
Ryan 5 disposals, 2 marks 0 scoreboard
Miller 4 disposals, 3 marks 0 scoreboard
Pickett 9 disposals, 1 mark 0 scoreboard
Jack Graham, is having more average games than good. How he escapes scrutiny is beyond me. 11 disposals, 2 tackles, and 1 point.
Cumberland out of the 7 forwards was our best which shows how poor the others were, and Clarke was 2nd even though he turned it over but played with some spark.
From our 7 forwards listed above. 3 tackles between them all. 2 to Graham and 1 to Pickett. It's why I wanted Maurice Junior in, his frenetic pressure and closing the space quickly denies opposition players to waltz the ball out easily. We saw it last week v Saints.
Some other players:
Almost forgot Macintosh, 10 disposals on the wing is just not good enough.
Cotchin had a good game last week but was poor tonight with 14 disposals, 0 clearances, and 2 tackles.
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Disgusting.
That’s not going to get you a coaching job.
We got what we deserved.
Teams have injuries, no excuse.
No future forwards.
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AFL legend Jason Dunstall took aim after Hipwood got in the face of Tigers defender Noah Balta after Joe Daniher took a mark on the Richmond star in the second quarter.
Speaking on Fox Footy after the match, Dunstall said it was an act a player would “deserve to get chinned for”.
“There is something that has become very prevalent in our game that I don’t like,” he said.
“Now the NFL they have a taunting rule. So if you stand over a player after the play or get in their face and carry on like a tool you cop a penalty straight away and can get ejected.
“We need to stop taunting in the AFL.”
Dunstall said he was not singling Hipwood out but said it was prevalent throughout the sport.
“Because every player is doing this,” he said.
“Instead of celebrating his teammate taking a good mark keep your eye on Eric Hipwood. He is going to go to Noah Balta the opponent.”
After Daniher made the grab, Hipwood sarcastically clapped at Balta, who pushed his rival.
“Look at that, is that not getting in your private space?” Dunstall said.
“Why on earth do we have to put up with c**p like that?
“I just want the players to be better, go and celebrate the positive. Pat your teammate Joe Daniher on the back for taking a good mark.
“Don’t do that, you deserve to get chinned for that and we don’t want to see that coming into the game.
“The rule-makers have to intervene.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/eric-hipwood-deserves-to-get-chinned-for-taunt-afl-great-jason-dunstall/news-story/6809a69bb926291747d904de15e201df
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lol at crap being censored (I know its in the original article and not OER)
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LACK OF INTENT AND COMMITMENT THE DOWNFALL OF “POOR” AND “TIMID” TIGERS
Andrew Slevison
SEN
30 June 2023
Richmond copped its heaviest defeat since 2016 when going down to Brisbane by 81 points at the Gabba on Thursday night.
The Tigers were battered from the first bounce to the final siren by a rampant Lions outfit that banged on 20 goals from 68 inside 50s in a statement performance.
David King assessed the Tigers in the aftermath and was particularly critical of their lack of intent and effort around the contest and at stoppages.
King believes it was the most “timid” he has seen the Tigers in quite a while.
“They were pretty poor,” King said on SEN Breakfast.
“I thought it was the most timid that I’ve seen Richmond play in a long time.
“The 50-50 balls were 70-30 balls because they didn’t straight-line the footy. They didn’t commit their bodies like they have for a decade.
“Tim Taranto, there was a genuine 50-50 ball and he just took a step to the side to miss the contact. I thought that’s a bad sign early in the game and it leaked and permeated through the group.
“They’d be really disappointed wth their attack on the footy.
Sam Edmund outlined some of the statistical areas where the Tigers, who were coming off the bye deathtrap, were punished.
He wondered where a loss like this leaves a team that is sitting precariously outside the top eight.
“+24 clearance, +26 contest, 30 more (inside 50) entries, 21 marks inside 50,” said Edmund of the Lions’ dominance.
“Richmond were off though, as good as Brisbane were, and that’s now 0-9 for teams coming off the bye.
“We were probably trying to find Richmond’s watermark. Is it bottom half of the eight? Is it eighth or seventh? Or is this actually a true reflection of where they’re at and their ability?
“For as much as they were un-Richmond-like, this might just be about where they’re at.”
King knows caretaker coach Andrew McQualter and the playing group will be downcast by the defeat after simply not giving the effort desired to compete with a premiership contender away from home.
“They’ll be disappointed with their efforts,” he said further.
“They didn’t give themselves a chance, they didn’t compete to the level. If you’re going to beat a top four team on the road, you have to be absolutely full bore.
“They weren’t there.”
Despite the subpar showing, the Tigers did have some excuses with Dustin Martin a late out, joining Dion Prestia (calf) on the sidelines.
Those injuries were further compounded by doing Jayden Short (hamstring) in the first half, but overall they were devoid of effort.
“Not to give them outs because every team is suffering injuries, but when you lose Prestia and Martin, they’re two key pillars to take on the road,” King added.
“It’s very difficult to go to the Gabba and get the chocolates but I thought they’d be better than that.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/29/lack-of-intent-and-commitment-the-downfall-of-poor-and-timid-tigers/
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"Tthey were pretty poor"
:banghead what the?
They were pathetic, insipid and looked disinterested
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I’m not that disappointed by the result last night . It highlighted how far off the contenders we truly are .
I’m also glad that the club will not be seduced by short term success and may actually find the best coach for 2024 . The next “ Damien Hardwick is certainly more preferable than a Kmart version of DH .
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Get games in the kids we're missing the opportunity this year we a never going to make finals what we won 3 in a row against middle of the road sides . Let's see who sinks or swims.Mini hasn't even debut one new kid yet mindset has to change.
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Settled in to watch this game hoping for a cracker lucky for me kayo went down and i missed it.Needless to say i won't be watching it.
Just hope they wake up and finally prioritise kids.
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Bauer should be played as a marking forward with the bonus of being able to shift him back if required. He provides a contest in the air and is a noted goal kicker. Banks is overdue and I am very happy with the way Brown is progressing as early days I was not so sure. He added size looks to have provided him the confidence required to hit contests which he wasn't doing before the injury. Big Soldo might also be worth playing as we are being smashed in the middle.
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I watched our VFL boys today, don't bet on too many changes. Bauer deserves a run in defence, Tresize & Coulthard did some nice things too ... but that is all folks!
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‘Everything goes wrong’ as Tigers ‘exposed’ in 7yr worst
“Where’s the physicality? Where’s the toughness, particularly through clearance?” David King asked on Fox Footy.
“Brisbane are going straight lines at the ball, Richmond are questioning whether they want to. That’s a harsh thing to say … they haven’t put their bodies on the line tonight for the cause.”
Dual All-Australian Leigh Montagna added: “They’re half a step off. They’re slow to react and they’re getting absolutely exposed.”
Montagna said the Tigers “didn’t pay him (Neale) enough respect early”, adding: “It looked like Trent Cotchin tried to get to him once he started to get on top, but the damage was done midway through the second quarter.”
Montagna pointed out that since last year, the Lions are 14-2 when Neale has had nine clearances or more. When he has eight or less, the Lions are 14-10.
“How much of that is coincidence or how much is it influence? We don’t really know. But the stats are starting to stack up,” Neale said.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-afl-2023-brisbane-lions-vs-richmond-tigers-round-16-live-scores-updates-stats-video-stream-result-news-blog/news-story/039be78da48c84154afcedbc06b47122
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Bribane forward Lincoln McCarthy has been banned for one game for striking Richmond's Kamdyn McIntosh during the Lions' big win over the Tigers on Thursday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/958892/match-review-lion-learns-fate-for-jumper-punch
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Bribane forward Lincoln McCarthy has been banned for one game for striking Richmond's Kamdyn McIntosh during the Lions' big win over the Tigers on Thursday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/958892/match-review-lion-learns-fate-for-jumper-punch
Right in front of the umpire but no free kick
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Bribane forward Lincoln McCarthy has been banned for one game for striking Richmond's Kamdyn McIntosh during the Lions' big win over the Tigers on Thursday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/958892/match-review-lion-learns-fate-for-jumper-punch
Right in front of the umpire but no free kick
Exactly :banghead
I am not suggesting for a second that it would have made any difference to the result
But....
At that stage of the game we were still in it. It allowed Berry I think it was the easiest goal
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Surprised Brisbane didn’t get a 50 for Macca hitting Berry with his chin
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So rumours are Dusty wasn't the only one fighting flu symptoms vs the Lions & may in part be a reason for the lackadaisical performance. Who really knows whether true or not, or if it is how much it impacted.
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1674945007541977088
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Bribane forward Lincoln McCarthy has been banned for one game for striking Richmond's Kamdyn McIntosh during the Lions' big win over the Tigers on Thursday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/958892/match-review-lion-learns-fate-for-jumper-punch
Right in front of the umpire but no free kick
Exactly :banghead
I am not suggesting for a second that it would have made any difference to the result
But....
At that stage of the game we were still in it. It allowed Berry I think it was the easiest goal
It’s really the principal of it. And all the other free kicks not paid. I’ve never been one to bash the umpires but the incorrect disposals NOT paid were just outrageous
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Get games in the kids we're missing the opportunity this year we a never going to make finals what we won 3 in a row against middle of the road sides . Let's see who sinks or swims.Mini hasn't even debut one new kid yet mindset has to change.
Totally agree. Need to give them experience. Failure to do so is not looking at all to the future.
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Get games in the kids we're missing the opportunity this year we a never going to make finals what we won 3 in a row against middle of the road sides . Let's see who sinks or swims.Mini hasn't even debut one new kid yet mindset has to change.
Totally agree. Need to give them experience. Failure to do so is not looking at all to the future.
He is coaching to win the coaches job, otherwise kids would have been played.
I doubt we will beat the swans to be fair, and if we manage to that's half a game outside the 8 with crows and dons to play off.
Play some bloody kids. Some like banks have earned it.
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AFL Report Card: Round 16
Ben Cotton, Ben Waterworth, Catherine Healey and David Zita
Foxsports
3 July 2023
RICHMOND
This was a jarring and uncharacteristic performance from Richmond. The Tigers came into Thursday night’s match against Brisbane with renewed hope under interim coach Andrew McQualter after three wins from their past four games. But McQualter was handed his first hefty loss in charge, going down by 81 points as Richmond’s hopes of a late push for the finals took a hit. The Tigers went into half-time with just 1.7 (13) – their lowest half-time score against Brisbane since their final meeting against them as the Bears in Round 18, 1996.
In the votes
The Tigers’ defence was put under enormous pressure by Brisbane, which conjured 68 inside 50s to Richmond’s 38. Noah Balta, Nathan Broad and Nick Vlastuin all had at least 20 disposals and eight intercepts each as they tried admirably to stop the onslaught. Jacob Hopper was his side’s best midfielder and could hold his head high, booting 2.1 from 22 disposalssals and six tackles.
Room for improvement
Dual premiership Kangaroo David King summed up Richmond’s performance bluntly yet aptly at half-time on Fox Footy: “Richmond can’t win it, they can’t move it and they can’t stop it. It’s a classic night where everything is going wrong.” The Tigers simply weren’t tough enough at the contest, while their slow reaction time at stoppage meant they were exposed in defence. Individually, Liam Baker wasn‘t at his effiecient best while Shai Bolton didn’t hit the scoreboard and struggled to have an impact. It was the Tigers’ biggest loss since Round 23, 2016.
Grade
F
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-16-report-card-highlights-grades-every-club-reviewed-best-and-worst-video-stats/news-story/6f78cb9660ecd6da4cc936501eb80df8