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Title: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 04, 2023, 08:10:22 PM
AFLW Round 2

RICHMOND vs Adelaide


Friday, 8th September @ Ikon Park (Princes Park).

Start time: 5:05 pm


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Odds: (Sportsbet)
Richmond  $3.45 
Adelaide    $1.30

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/5747

Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 06, 2023, 08:24:11 PM
McKenzie will miss with an ankle  :(, but Sarah Hosking will be back this week.

Richmond AFLW Injury List:

Test

Sarah Hosking, hamstring

Unavailable

Meagan Kiely, back (two weeks)

Charley Ryan, foot (three weeks)

Ellie McKenzie, ankle (TBC)

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Ellie McKenzie, ankle

"In the last two minutes of the game on Sunday, Ellie obtained a contact ankle injury. We're still waiting to see how it settles. She's currently getting a little bit of pain still through the ankle, we're hoping that it settles in the next couple of days. She'll be unavailable for this weekend, but we're hoping we'll be able to see her return to play pretty quickly."

Sarah Hosking, hamstring

"Sarah's looking great for this week. She had hamstring tendinopathy, an acute injury during training late in pre-season. It was unfortunate to miss that first round, but we know that she's hit all the loads that she needs to in the game. So, she's looking really good to be available for this weekend."

Meagan Kiely, back

"She had a reoccurrence of a back injury that she's had in previous seasons. We tried an aggressive approach to get her back pretty quickly, and it didn't settle as well as well as we hoped it would. So, we've just gone for more of a conservative approach at the moment. She's tracking really well in her rehab and responding great to the loads and extra variables that we're putting in. We're hoping she can play some scrimmage minutes this weekend, to then be available in the coming weeks."

Charley Ryan, foot

"Charley's returning from bone stress in her foot. In terms of the bone stress, it's (going) really good, but the complication is that she was also returning from an ACL injury. So, in the background, we're just making sure that she's strong enough in those areas responding from her ACL injury, but she's back into full training now and has had some exposure to match sim. We're still looking at a Round 4 or 5 return for Charley which is great."

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1424274/aflw-injury-report-round-2
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2023, 07:23:24 PM
One forced change.

In: S.Hosking
Out: E.McKenzie (ankle)

RICHMOND

B:                 Laura McClelland                 Rebecca Miller

HB:   Eilish Sheerin               Sarah D'Arcy               Maddie Shevlin

C:     Jess Hosking                Grace Egan                 Kate Dempsey

HF:   Katelyn Cox                 Emelia Yassir                Bethany Lynch

F:                   Caitlin Greiser                Katie Brennan

R:   Gabby Seymour            Monique Conti              Meg Macdonald

Int:   Libby Graham      Poppy Kelly        Sarah Hosking          Stella Reid         Courtney Jones


Emg:  Charli Wicksteed       Jemima Woods         Molly Eastman

---------

Available Tigers who haven't been selected in the Round 2 side will play in a scrimmage on Saturday morning from 11.30am at the Swinburne Centre, with players from other Clubs also taking part.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1424832/hosking-returns-for-friday-night-footy
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 03:56:30 PM
Full R2 preview

By Gemma Bastiani
womens.afl
8 September 2023


FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 8
Richmond v Adelaide at Ikon Park, 5.05pm AEST


Richmond and Adelaide have only faced off once before, in round two last season. The Tigers took an unexpected lead into three-quarter time before the ultimate professionals that are the Crows put the foot down to win by nine points. This year, however, is a different prospect. Richmond has confidence after reaching its first ever finals series and backed it up with a win over Brisbane last week, while Adelaide had a chance to test some changes in round one's Showdown.

The Tigers found more outside ball last week than they averaged last season, playing their own game rather than focusing heavily on taking away their opponents' strengths. Richmond laid just 48 tackles – the fewest of any side across the weekend – and 51.1 per cent of its possession was uncontested, using the speed and space of Springfield to its advantage. Adelaide also showed off a slight shift in game style compared to last year. Still a high-possession team, it is trying to use the ball by hand a little more and make better use of its outside runners. As a result, this game should be quick with plenty of run and carry.

Tip: There is no harder game to tip this weekend. Richmond by one point.

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1025078/full-r2-preview-lions-on-the-warpath-can-swans-go-back-to-back
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 04:10:59 PM
Cold and very windy with passing showers. Need to make the most of using the strong breeze; good luck kicking against it :P.

Forecast for the rest of Friday
Summary
Max 12
Showers. Windy.
Chance of any rain: 80%

Melbourne area
Cloudy. High chance of showers, becoming less likely in the evening. Damaging winds possible in the morning and afternoon. Possible small hail. Winds northwesterly 25 to 40 km/h turning westerly 35 to 50 km/h in the late morning then decreasing to 25 to 40 km/h in the late afternoon.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:05:54 PM
About to start.

Live stream: https://www.afl.com.au/afl-tv/stream?streamId=AFLW%20CH2%20New%20Solution&player=arILJvH9PY
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:08:26 PM
First goal to Adelaide. Can't leave a Crows player by themself at the stoppage.

0 - 6
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:10:28 PM
Throw-in F50. We get the HTB free but advantage to Conti who kicks the goal  :gotigers.

Rich  1.0-6
Adel  1.0-6

4 mins Q1
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:22:10 PM
Good forward pressure forces a couple of F50 stoppages. Kelly wins the HTB free in the ruck 25m out. Rain bucketing down. Goal!  :gotigers

Rich  2.0-12
Adel  1.1-7

16 mins Q1
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:28:44 PM
Quarter time

Richmond   2.0-12
Adelaide     1.1-7

Goals: Conti, Kelly.


The rain is affecting the game far more than any breeze. Highly contested footy given the slippery conditions.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
Stats to QT:

Conti  8 disposals
Egan  6
Miller  4
Jones  3
Sheerin 3
Seymour 3


Disposals:   46 - 66 .... ( contested: 25 - 30 )
Marks:         2 - 15
Clearances: 10 - 6
Inside 50s:    6 - 9
Tackles:      22 - 18
Hitouts:        9 - 11
Frees:           7 - 2

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/5747#team-stats
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:37:04 PM
Free and goal to Adelaide.

12 - 13


Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:38:57 PM
That was clueless defending. Allowed the easy centre clearance and then let the ball bounce over and through our entire backline :facepalm.

12 - 19
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Half-time

Richmond   2.0     2.0-12
Adelaide     1.1     3.1-19

Goals: Conti, Kelly.


A mixture of the rain stopping and the breeze favouring the Crows that quarter plus dumb play by us. Have modern footballers forgotten what being front and square is?  :P
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2023, 05:58:53 PM
Our onballers got smashed that qtr. Hosking, Egan woeful. Even Conti well below her best.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:04:51 PM
Too many passengers so far. Ferguson needs to give them a blast. Adelaide working harder across the park. Arguably one tall too many up forward in these conditions as well.

Stats to HT:

Conti     14 disposals
Dempsey 8
Seymour  8
Egan      7
Miller     6
S.Hosking 5
Sheerin  5
Brennan  4
MacDonald  3
Reid     3
Yassir     3
Cox       2
D'Arcy    2
Graham  2
Lynch     2
Greiser   1
J.Hosking 1
Kelly      1
McClelland 1


Disposals:    84 - 122 .... ( contested: 46 - 54 )
Marks:           6 - 24
Clearances:  18 - 13
Inside 50s:   10 - 20
Tackles:       42 - 37
Hitouts:       22 - 26
Frees:          12 - 6

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/5747#player-stats
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:06:35 PM
Our onballers got smashed that qtr. Hosking, Egan woeful. Even Conti well below her best.
Missing McKenzie's class around the ball big time.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2023, 06:18:42 PM
Lynch sister is a disaster. Her hands are worse than Jack Grahams
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:20:00 PM
Geez, this has been a dumb performance. Just because we won't play front and square and stand defensive side of the contest. Outplayed and out-coached.

12 - 26
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:26:22 PM
Crows player front and square in support and surprise surprise they get the ball, free and goal. It's not hard Tiges but we've been dumb and reactive tonight  :banghead.

12 - 32
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:32:47 PM
3/4 time

Richmond   2.0     2.0     2.0-12
Adelaide     1.1     3.1     5.2-32

Goals: Conti, Kelly.


If you can't score with the breeze then it's game over. Played like headless chooks tonight. Making every fundamental mistake in the book when the key tonight was K.I.S.S. footy. Feels like we haven't turned up to play tonight. Not willing to go first in, put your body on the line and win the ball. Too many Tigers on their heels reactive, ballwatching and waiting for the Crows players to get the ball. When we do have the ball we're panicking and there's no system to the play. FFS handballing and fumbling backwards  :banghead.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:35:17 PM
Can we fall over and go to ground in the contest anymore tonight? :facepalm

Add another ballwatching effort as a Crows forward takes an uncontested mark.

12 - 38
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 06:56:27 PM
Final Score

Richmond   2.0     2.0     2.0     2.0-12
Adelaide     1.1     3.1     5.2     6.5-41

Goals: Conti, Kelly.


Got what we deserved playing that dumb, lazy, reactive and soft crap. We were a clueless rabble tonight. A lesson in that you pay if you don't do the basics! Adelaide was more organised and outplayed and outworked us across the park.

Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 07:11:10 PM
Too many passengers as already mentioned.

Always an indictment on the 'effort' when you lose the tackle count despite chasing tail all night.

Individual Stats:

Conti     29 disposals
Sheerin 18
Dempsey 16
Seymour 16
Egan    15
Miller   12
MacDonald 9
S.Hosking 9
Brennan  7
Yassir    7
Cox    5
D'Arcy 5
J.Hosking 5
Reid    5
Greiser 4
Jones  4
Lynch  4
Graham 3
McClelland 3
Shervin  3
Kelly   2

Team Stats:

Disposals:     183 - 257 .... ( contested: 101 - 111 ; uncontested: 73 - 140 )  :help
Efficiency%:    52 - 67  :help
Kicks:           125 - 147
Handballs:      58 - 109
Turnovers:      62 - 57
Marks:           19 - 42  :help
Tackles:         68 - 72 
Clearances:    28 - 27 .... ( centre: 4 - 4 ; stoppages: 24 - 23 )
Inside 50s:    20 - 44  :help
In50 eff.%:    10 - 23  :help
In50 marks:    2 - 10  :help
In50 tackles:   6 - 15  :help
Hitouts:         32 - 48
One %ers:     25 - 31
Frees:            16 - 19

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/5747#team-stats
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 07:14:00 PM
The Crows scored all six of their goals from stoppages, holding the Tigers scoreless after quarter time. The Crows collected 67 more uncontested possessions than the Tigers and generated 24 more inside 50s.

Adelaide has applied consistent pressure on Richmond all match, recording a pressure factor of 231 compared to 212 for the Tigers. Adelaide's pressure factor of 196 last round was considerably lower than their average of 214 last season.

Whilst the Tigers have equaled the Crows at contested possessions won pre-clearance (33 apiece), they have not been able to match them post-clearance. The Crows have won 10 more contested possessions post-clearance tonight. The Crows won 16 more contested possessions than the Tigers in their Round 2 encounter last season.

Monique Conti has been a shining light for the Tigers tonight, leading her team in disposals (27), contested possessions (13), intercept possessions (eight), clearances (nine) and inside 50s (four). Conti won a team-high 26 disposals last season against the Crows, as well as leading the Tigers in contested possessions (12) and tackles (seven).

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/5747#timeline
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2023, 07:14:43 PM
Too many duds. Embarrassing if you can’t get at least 2 touches a qtr.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2023, 07:16:22 PM
No score in 3qtrs of footy. stuff me the club should shut the women’s team down forever.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 08, 2023, 07:21:22 PM
No score in 3qtrs of footy. stuff me the club should shut the women’s team down forever.

LOL

It’s a joke

I didn’t watch a minute , but serious question

How many fat ones do Adelaide have ?

I’ll excuse skills , but being fat on a football field at the so called elite level is a joke

I don’t understand how they expect the supporters to take things seriously when some of the players clearly don’t

Really unfair on players like Conti who clearly have a lot of ability and an amazing attitude
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: lamington on September 08, 2023, 07:39:57 PM
Combined 14 disposals between the hosking sisters isn’t great given their experience.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2023, 08:18:17 PM
Combined 14 disposals between the hosking sisters isn’t great given their experience.

Sarah Hosking played as a forward all game, so no surprise she didn't get much of it
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: lamington on September 08, 2023, 08:20:00 PM
Is that her new role now? I figured she’s a better accumulator than a forward
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2023, 08:21:05 PM
Richmond fall to first loss of season

By Gemma Bastiani
AFL Media
8 September 2023


RICHMOND                 2.0    2.0    2.0   2.0 (12)
ADELAIDE                   1.1    3.1    5.2   6.5 (41)

GOALS   
Richmond: Conti, Kelly,   
Adelaide: Gould 3, Martin, Ponter, Jones

BEST   
Richmond: Conti, Seymour, Sheerin, Dempsey
Adelaide: Ponter, Marinoff, Allen, Gould, Biddell

INJURIES   
Richmond: Nil
Adelaide: Nil

Crowd: 1,083 at Ikon Park

------------------------------------------------

Richmond AFLW fell to their first loss of the season on Friday night at Ikon Park as Adelaide ran away to a 29-point win.

Celebrating their captain Chelsea Randall's milestone 50th game, the Crows kicked away to win 6.5 (41) to 2.0 (12) at Ikon Park, punctuated by a stunning Danielle Ponter goal from the centre circle in the second quarter.

In wintery Melbourne conditions, both sides adapted well, willing the ball forward and trying to use space where possible, but also accepting that clean, uncontested footy was not going to be forthcoming. 

But after the first break it was all Adelaide, keeping the Tigers scoreless for the final three quarters and piling on 34 points of its own.

The experience of the Crows just proved too much for the Tigers. Trapping the ball in attack for much of the third quarter the visitors really tested Richmond's defence, ultimately registering 44 inside 50s to the Tigers' 20.

Young Adelaide defender Kiera Mueller played handy roles on Katie Brennan and Caitlin Greiser for much of the night, keeping the Tigers captain goalless from seven disposals after a big game last week, while Zoe Prowse (11 disposals, three marks, nine intercepts) held strong as a key back for the Crows in the absence of Sarah Allan.

For the Tigers, Monique Conti's slick movement around the contest was immediately on show early as she gathered eight disposals and five clearances in the first quarter to finish with 29 disposals, nine clearances and 406 metres gained in a commanding performance in the middle.

She was assisted around the footy by ruck Gabby Seymour, who worked tirelessly to register 20 hit-outs and 16 disposals.

Up next
Richmond will lick its wounds before travelling to Blacktown International Sportspark to face the Giants on Saturday

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1426021/richmond-fall-to-first-loss-of-season
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2023, 08:52:40 PM
Well that was embarrassing  :banghead

Think we stuffed up at selection. Considering the weather forecast we were far too top heavy. At vwrious times we had Greiser, Darcy, King lumped in the forward 50, none are quick and King and to lesser extent Darcy are not good below their knees. Greiser needs to lead more. Picture playing Nank, Soldo and Ryan in the F50 all together and you'll get the picture

Yassir was disappointing. Her role is to be at the foot of pack's when the forwards bring it to ground and to pressure so the opposition doesn't get easy clearances. Adelaide started alto of their transitions attacks through her tonight. It was left to Sarah Hosking to do that and she did it well

Just a really disappointing night. All the good from last week's win is basically null and void after tonight  :thumbsdown

But at least I had a nice chat to Tom Lynch  ;D
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2023, 08:53:28 PM
Is that her new role now? I figured she’s a better accumulator than a forward

I think it has alot to do with her coming back from a nasty hamstring tendon injury
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 08, 2023, 10:03:13 PM
Terrible performance. I totally agree with WP that we went in way too tall. No point playing poppy Kelly in this weather.

But the worst of it is that almost all the girls had a touch of the Poppy Kelly’s tonight couldn’t mark, kick or handball effectively all game.

Unlike the crows we were fumbly and couldn’t take a mark to save a life. Whilst the crows girls adapted well to the conditions and worked hard to spread and create options for an easy pass.
They kept it simple by marking on the chest nearly every time and taught us a lesson.

Big loss losing Mackenzie.

Conti is the best in the league by a mile.
Seymour battled hard all game and Dempsey was consistent all game as was Sheerin.

Our defence had a terrible night.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2023, 10:37:24 PM
The G-Train needs to renamed the P-Train. A pathetic decision to recruit her. Worse decision than the Hopper one.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 09:50:07 AM


LOL

It’s a joke

I didn’t watch a minute , but serious question

How many fat ones do Adelaide have ?

I’ll excuse skills , but being fat on a football field at the so called elite level is a joke

I don’t understand how they expect the supporters to take things seriously when some of the players clearly don’t

Really unfair on players like Conti who clearly have a lot of ability and an amazing attitude

Before I answer Damo

I have a serious question not taking a pot shot

What do you base your "fat ones" comment on? A players body shape? Their lack of speed? What exactly?

As players' weights (rightly IMHO) don't get listed for the AFLW due to the vile comments made on social media back in season 1. Thet were horrific.

So I'm interested to know how one decides what determines a "fat one"
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 09, 2023, 10:45:26 AM


LOL

It’s a joke

I didn’t watch a minute , but serious question

How many fat ones do Adelaide have ?

I’ll excuse skills , but being fat on a football field at the so called elite level is a joke

I don’t understand how they expect the supporters to take things seriously when some of the players clearly don’t

Really unfair on players like Conti who clearly have a lot of ability and an amazing attitude

Before I answer Damo

I have a serious question not taking a pot shot

What do you base your "fat ones" comment on? A players body shape? Their lack of speed? What exactly?

As players' weights (rightly IMHO) don't get listed for the AFLW due to the vile comments made on social media back in season 1. Thet were horrific.

So I'm interested to know how one decides what determines a "fat one"

We have players that literally have tummies like mine
Fat

I’m talking genuinely unfit

As for vile horrific comments.. used to happen in AFL

There is a reason it doesn’t anymore , the players aren’t fat
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Diocletian on September 09, 2023, 12:41:07 PM
Geez imagine if a spectator released a pig onto the field to mock an overweight AFLW player.... :shh
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 02:21:01 PM

We have players that literally have tummies like mine
Fat

I’m talking genuinely unfit

As for vile horrific comments.. used to happen in AFL

There is a reason it doesn’t anymore , the players aren’t fat

Not sure you answered my question. But I'll take your comment to mean body shape. And as aside I have no idea which players you're talking about TBH

So to answer your question there were a couple of Adelaide players who would probably fall under your category of "fat ones"

As for the competition being elite. It isn't a truly elite competition as the players are only semi professional. The majority still work so unlike the men they do not spend full days training getting in the conditioning

But one of the supposedly best players in the comp is a solid body shape but very fit. I'd be interested to know how you'd classify her

As for the vile comments in the AFL I don't ever recall a male player due to their size being called a "fat useless (insert c word here) who couldn't score a root with a dog" or being called a lazy lard arse because of their size. And those 2 were mild

There a some blokes running around in the AFL at the moment who don't look like a picture of fitness but we don't hear a word
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 09, 2023, 02:27:42 PM

We have players that literally have tummies like mine
Fat

I’m talking genuinely unfit

As for vile horrific comments.. used to happen in AFL

There is a reason it doesn’t anymore , the players aren’t fat

Not sure you answered my question. But I'll take your comment to mean body shape. And as aside I have no idea which players you're talking about TBH

So to answer your question there were a couple of Adelaide players who would probably fall under your category of "fat ones"

As for the competition being elite. It isn't a truly elite competition as the players are only semi professional. The majority still work so unlike the men they do not spend full days training getting in the conditioning

But one of the supposedly best players in the comp is a solid body shape but very fit. I'd be interested to know how you'd classify her

As for the vile comments in the AFL I don't ever recall a male player due to their size being called a "fat useless (insert c word here) who couldn't score a root with a dog" or being called a lazy lard arse because of their size. And those 2 were mild

There a some blokes running around in the AFL at the moment who don't look like a picture of fitness but we don't hear a word

WP - which elite player is “solid” ?

And - who are the fat AFL players
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 02:38:07 PM

WP - which elite player is “solid” ?

And - who are the fat AFL players

Not sure I explained myself too well there

Good example of solid is Maddie Prespakis from Essendon who has won the AFLW's equivalent to the Brownlow. She is an elite player. But i think some would suggest she is "solid". As I posted before I'd be curious to know how you'd describe her?

I never said any AFL players were fat. I said there are some who don't look like a picture of fitness

Gotta say in his last 2 seasons Buddy Franklin didn't look incredibly fit, maybe it's those tight fitting guernseys these days  ;D
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: wayne on September 09, 2023, 02:47:01 PM
Gee it's a tough watch this AFLW.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: cub on September 09, 2023, 03:16:39 PM
Rubbish
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Diocletian on September 09, 2023, 03:37:57 PM

We have players that literally have tummies like mine
Fat

I’m talking genuinely unfit

As for vile horrific comments.. used to happen in AFL

There is a reason it doesn’t anymore , the players aren’t fat

Not sure you answered my question. But I'll take your comment to mean body shape. And as aside I have no idea which players you're talking about TBH

So to answer your question there were a couple of Adelaide players who would probably fall under your category of "fat ones"

As for the competition being elite. It isn't a truly elite competition as the players are only semi professional. The majority still work so unlike the men they do not spend full days training getting in the conditioning

But one of the supposedly best players in the comp is a solid body shape but very fit. I'd be interested to know how you'd classify her

As for the vile comments in the AFL I don't ever recall a male player due to their size being called a "fat useless (insert c word here) who couldn't score a root with a dog" or being called a lazy lard arse because of their size. And those 2 were mild

There a some blokes running around in the AFL at the moment who don't look like a picture of fitness but we don't hear a word

We just delisted a bloke for being too fat...same bloke I called out for it ...and there's also been a fair bit of commentary around MRJ's weight ...if women want to play a man's sport and be paid for it they should learn to cop the same shyte male players have since day one...can't have it both ways and  be all "they're just as tough as the blokes" one minute and "ooh don't dare criticise to poor delicate little females they might cry or develop an eating disorder" the next......  ::)
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 09, 2023, 04:45:13 PM

WP - which elite player is “solid” ?

And - who are the fat AFL players

Not sure I explained myself too well there

Good example of solid is Maddie Prespakis from Essendon who has won the AFLW's equivalent to the Brownlow. She is an elite player. But i think some would suggest she is "solid". As I posted before I'd be curious to know how you'd describe her?

I never said any AFL players were fat. I said there are some who don't look like a picture of fitness

Gotta say in his last 2 seasons Buddy Franklin didn't look incredibly fit, maybe it's those tight fitting guernseys these days  ;D

Just looked at photos of her

She’s fat
She isn’t solid .. she’s got fat guts

Imagine how good she’d be in peak fitness
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2023, 07:36:00 PM
There's a greater connection between fat levels and hormonal levels in the female anatomy. While there are obviously healthy slim fit women, not all healthy female body types fit that description. It can be just as unhealthy to have too low fat levels in the female body (that causes severe hormonal imbalance), as it is to have too high fat levels and be overweight. It's different to most of us blokes who put on weight just by putting too much food in our gob or not exercising enough.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2023, 07:37:46 PM
Ryan Ferguson's post-match presser:

WATCH HERE: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1426107/aflw-r2-ferguson-post-match
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2023, 07:38:52 PM
McKenzie a a 'week by week' chance

By Gemma Bastiani
AFL Media
9 September 2023


RICHMOND coach Ryan Ferguson has said that the availability of star midfielder Ellie McKenzie will be a "week-by-week proposition" after his side fell to Adelaide on Friday night.

McKenzie, who registered 15 disposals and 325 metres gained in the Tigers' win over Brisbane last week, came off the ground with an ankle complaint in the dying minutes of the game, subsequently ruling her out of Friday's clash with the Crows.

"We're hopeful it won't be long," Ferguson said of McKenzie's expected time on the sidelines.

"She'll be a week-by-week proposition essentially, just going to see how (her ankle) continues to settle and how quickly we can get it going again. But it will literally be a week by week proposition, I think."

Richmond missed McKenzie in the contest against the Crows, with Monique Conti shouldering most of the load. Conti, with a game-high 29 disposals, won more than a third of the Tigers' clearances, while the next most in the yellow and black had three.

"We missed Ellie a little bit today for sure," Ferguson said.

"So, just to make sure we've got some more dynamic players in there, it's more the balance than anything. We'll play around with what that looks like if Ellie's in the team, if she's out of the team, how can we make sure we balance up in the midfield."

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1426772/mckenzie-a-a-week-by-week-chance
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Diocletian on September 09, 2023, 07:48:34 PM
MT chubby chaser confirmed.... :shh
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 08:03:15 PM
McKenzie a a 'week by week' chance

By Gemma Bastiani
AFL Media
9 September 2023


RICHMOND coach Ryan Ferguson has said that the availability of star midfielder Ellie McKenzie will be a "week-by-week proposition" after his side fell to Adelaide on Friday night.

McKenzie, who registered 15 disposals and 325 metres gained in the Tigers' win over Brisbane last week, came off the ground with an ankle complaint in the dying minutes of the game, subsequently ruling her out of Friday's clash with the Crows.

"We're hopeful it won't be long," Ferguson said of McKenzie's expected time on the sidelines.

"She'll be a week-by-week proposition essentially, just going to see how (her ankle) continues to settle and how quickly we can get it going again. But it will literally be a week by week proposition, I think."

Richmond missed McKenzie in the contest against the Crows, with Monique Conti shouldering most of the load. Conti, with a game-high 29 disposals, won more than a third of the Tigers' clearances, while the next most in the yellow and black had three.

"We missed Ellie a little bit today for sure," Ferguson said.

"So, just to make sure we've got some more dynamic players in there, it's more the balance than anything. We'll play around with what that looks like if Ellie's in the team, if she's out of the team, how can we make sure we balance up in the midfield."

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1426772/mckenzie-a-a-week-by-week-chance

Saw her last night pregame

She was in a moon boot

We know what that means

Yep it's all Luke Meehan's fault  :rollin
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 08:06:34 PM

We just delisted a bloke for being too fat...same bloke I called out for it ...and there's also been a fair bit of commentary around MRJ's weight ...if women want to play a man's sport and be paid for it they should learn to cop the same shyte male players have since day one...can't have it both ways and  be all "they're just as tough as the blokes" one minute and "ooh don't dare criticise to poor delicate little females they might cry or develop an eating disorder" the next......  ::)

 ::) " a man's sport"

Wow
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on September 09, 2023, 08:07:36 PM
He should go to prison for not enjoying women's footy
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Diocletian on September 09, 2023, 08:10:04 PM
He should go to prison for not enjoying women's footy


Is the Lingerie Football League still going? That went alright.... :shh
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: TigerLand on September 09, 2023, 08:15:09 PM
I think calling one of our senior men or women players fat seems stupid. Nobody playing AFL is fat. Some maybe overweight compared to ideal playing weight. Willie Rioli is but doesn't impact him having his best year.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 09, 2023, 09:00:09 PM
I think calling one of our senior men or women players fat seems stupid. Nobody playing AFL is fat. Some maybe overweight compared to ideal playing weight. Willie Rioli is but doesn't impact him having his best year.

You’re correct
Nobody playing AFL is fat
PLENTY playing AFLW are

And as for body shapes MT, what utter frogpoo

That girl WP mentioned that is a superstar , is deadset floppy fat .. that isn’t “body shape” .. that’s being unfit

I can still remember the commotion when Motlop came back from his turtle preseason fat .. ditto Dean Rioli .. there was no uproar when their conditioning was pointed out and photos everywhere shaming them
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 10:38:28 PM

You’re correct
Nobody playing AFL is fat
PLENTY playing AFLW are

And as for body shapes MT, what utter frogpoo

That girl WP mentioned that is a superstar , is deadset floppy fat .. that isn’t “body shape” .. that’s being unfit

I can still remember the commotion when Motlop came back from his turtle preseason fat .. ditto Dean Rioli .. there was no uproar when their conditioning was pointed out and photos everywhere shaming them

Personally and I follow the AFLW closely I suggest that of the over 530 players on AFLW lists less than 3% are overweight. I agree there are a number that don't look fit but I'd argue strongly that they are

The girl I mentioned is one of the best players in the AFLW and she is fit, her 2nd and 3rd efforts on the footy field prove it. She may not look it but she is.

I find it interesting that for people who don't watch AFLW the comments about what's wrong with game and the players continue to come thick and fast.

Solution is simple If you don't like it, don't enjoy it, then don't watch it
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 09, 2023, 10:58:14 PM

Solution is simple If you don't like it, don't enjoy it, then don't watch it

I don't
I don't
And, I don't

But the great thing is this, I can still have an opinion and comment on it ...

If they got fit, and improved (which I concede is happening slowly), then I might tune in and also be a bit more positive

As for Prespakis, imagine her second and third efforts if she was fit .. you can say she is, but the evidence (fat rolls) would disagree .. she might be an even better superstar .. just shows how much talent she actually has
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2023, 11:16:19 PM

But the great thing is this, I can still have an opinion and comment on it ...


Yep you can  :thumbsup

But just so I am clear on what you're suggesting

Unless a AFLW player has a flat stomach, they are overweight (refuse to use the term fat) and in no way can they  be considered fit?

An AFL player out of condition with the odd skinfold issue is simply unfit and cannot be overweight?

Or have I got that completely wrong?

Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: Damo on September 10, 2023, 12:20:38 PM

But the great thing is this, I can still have an opinion and comment on it ...


Yep you can  :thumbsup

But just so I am clear on what you're suggesting

Unless a AFLW player has a flat stomach, they are overweight (refuse to use the term fat) and in no way can they  be considered fit?

An AFL player out of condition with the odd skinfold issue is simply unfit and cannot be overweight?

Or have I got that completely wrong?

If an AFL player is overweight, it’s absolutely unacceptable
It’s definitely an issue discussed in the media and by supporters … and we just delisted a bloke for this exact reason apparently

Side note , how ridiculous the word fat is now offensive .. we’ve gone PC mad as a country .. Australia has absolutely lost the plot
I’m fat , very fat .. yep overweight is fine to describe, but I’m fine with fat

Also , I didn’t say they need a flat stomach, I’m hardly requesting a 6-pack

I’m talking overweight, as in love handles and rolls of fat on the stomach

Lol at what people would say if Prespakis was a bloke and was in that “condition”

If she is a freak now, imagine her if totally fit

I suppose Sabrina Frederick was fit at Richmond .. 10kg overweight and ran like she was in quicksand
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2023, 07:02:41 AM
Due to the hit to our percentage, we've dropped down to 12th spot on the ladder  :P.
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 11, 2023, 07:20:08 AM
Due to the hit to our percentage, we've dropped down to 12th spot on the ladder  :P.

No surprise there  >:(

What's the old sayjng?

You reap what you sow

Fail to score in 3 qtrs of footy and you deserve to tumble down the ladder
Title: Re: AFLW R2: Richmond vs Adelaide @ Princes Park, Fri. Sept. 8
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2023, 05:42:52 PM
Coaches' votes (Ferguson & Clarke)

Richmond v Adelaide

9 Caitlin Gould (ADEL)
7 Ebony Marinoff (ADEL)
6 Monique Conti (RICH)
4 Chelsea Biddell (ADEL)
2 Madison Newman (ADEL)
1 Najwa Allen (ADEL)
1 Niamh Kelly (ADEL)


LEADERBOARD
20 Jasmine Garner (NMFC)
17 Kate Hore (MELB)
17 Madison Prespakis (ESS)
16 Monique Conti (RICH)
16 Ashleigh Riddell (NMFC)

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1030428/coaches-votes-r2-north-melbourne-kangaroos-star-jasmine-garner-one-of-six-players-to-land-perfect-10s