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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 19, 2023, 09:45:39 PM
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Next up is Young.
Tylar in his first year of AFL played 19 out of a possible 23 games after being selected at pick 26 in last year's Rookie Draft held at the end of November. Due to what turned out to be season ending injuries to tall defenders Tarrant and Gibcus, Young debuted early on in the year in Round 2 against the Crows at Adelaide Oval. A leg injury in Round 7 saw Tylar miss three matches before he returned in Round 11 against Port Adelaide and played in all the remaining games of the season.
2023 Statistical Rankings:
● Ranked 11th in Total One Percenters
● Ranked 15th in One Percenters Per Game
Season highlights:
● 19 disps (13 kicks 6 hballs) and 5 marks in the Rd 20 32pt-loss to Melbourne at the MCG (Jul 30).
● 14 disps (7 kicks 7 hballs) and 4 marks in the Rd 7 24pt-loss to Gold Coast at Docklands (Apr 30).
● 12 disps (8 kicks 4 hballs) and 4 marks in the Rd 23 29pt-win over North Melbourne at the MCG (Aug 19).
Career stats to date:
Games Kicks Hballs Disposals Marks Tackles G.B Clear. In50 Re50
2023 19* 6.8 2.5 9.3 2.9 1.2 0.0 0.1 0.8 3.6
* Includes 2 games subbed off.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-richmond-tigers--tylar-young
https://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=3226
How did we all rate Young's first year?
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Gave him a 6 but with a belief that he can do better from here on. He was thrown into the fire early in the year but came out of it pretty well. His numbers aren't great but he made it hard for his opponent to score, like real defenders do.
He's no star, but his concentration & application are right up there & that's something you want your whole back 6 doing.
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Gave him a 6.
His improvement in thec2nd half of the season was outstanding.
His start was poor, where he cost us when he gave the opposition some very soft goals
Will put my hand up and say I was one his harshest critics but kudos to the bloke by season end he was easy best 22 as a key back
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Something to build on. He was a nice bonus in a crappy year.
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@Hoyney35 names the top five hardest players to beat in a 1v1 contest this year according to Champion Data:
1. Jacob Weitering
2. Sam Taylor
3. Connor Idun
4. Tylar Young
5. Darcy Moore
https://twitter.com/SENSportsday/status/1704051455500628461
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Gave him a 7 because my expectations were low.
Started poor and ended very solid.
Not sure what else we can ask of a bloke taken so cheaply with such little experience.
Hopefully he improves and 2024 is as good as his last month or so
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6 for me. very happy with what he produced compared to other senior more experienced players :shh
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Gave him a 7 because my expectations were low.
Started poor and ended very solid.
Not sure what else we can ask of a bloke taken so cheaply with such little experience.
Hopefully he improves and 2024 is as good as his last month or so
I went the same and agree with your summary
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Gave him a 7 because my expectations were low.
Started poor and ended very solid.
Not sure what else we can ask of a bloke taken so cheaply with such little experience.
Hopefully he improves and 2024 is as good as his last month or so
I went the same and agree with your summary
+1 on this as well. Greatly exceeded expectations and did a lot of things which makes you optimistic about 2024
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Gave him a 7 because my expectations were low.
Started poor and ended very solid.
Not sure what else we can ask of a bloke taken so cheaply with such little experience.
Hopefully he improves and 2024 is as good as his last month or so
I went the same and agree with your summary
+1 on this as well. Greatly exceeded expectations and did a lot of things which makes you optimistic about 2024
+2
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atm i would call him a glass half full type. Not enough strings to his his kpd bow.
On him being asked to do a singular job this year he did well but i have to say there has to be just a bit more to a player than just being able to spoil in the modern game.
Who knows he may keep improving but im not going to hold my breath in expectation that he will significantly improve.
Hope the bloke proves me wrong.
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I must admit the knocks on Young I find extraordinary.
He's a kid playing KP back. In a backline where Grimes has been poor, Broad missed a chunk through suspension, Balta isn't someone I'd rely upon for guidance. I think his first year was exceptional considering.
Has plenty of growth so I hold no concerns of his areas of improvement.
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I must admit the knocks on Young I find extraordinary.
He's a kid playing KP back. In a backline where Grimes has been poor, Broad missed a chunk through suspension, Balta isn't someone I'd rely upon for guidance. I think his first year was exceptional considering.
Has plenty of growth so I hold no concerns of his areas of improvement.
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I must admit the knocks on Young I find extraordinary.
He's a kid playing KP back. In a backline where Grimes has been poor, Broad missed a chunk through suspension, Balta isn't someone I'd rely upon for guidance. I think his first year was exceptional considering.
Has plenty of growth so I hold no concerns of his areas of improvement.
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And +2
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atm i would call him a glass half full type. Not enough strings to his his kpd bow.
On him being asked to do a singular job this year he did well but i have to say there has to be just a bit more to a player than just being able to spoil in the modern game.
Who knows he may keep improving but im not going to hold my breath in expectation that he will significantly improve.
Hope the bloke proves me wrong.
I see him as the new Astbury, who IMO was a B grade player with limited strings on his bow but a specific role to wrestle big KPFs.
Replacing top talent without good picks is hard.
Balta is our attempt at replacing Rance.
Brown our attempt at replacing Grimes.
Gibcus, I don't know. I see him as a Lever type so it's interesting to wonder how they will all fit in.
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I must admit the knocks on Young I find extraordinary.
He's a kid playing KP back. In a backline where Grimes has been poor, Broad missed a chunk through suspension, Balta isn't someone I'd rely upon for guidance. I think his first year was exceptional considering.
Has plenty of growth so I hold no concerns of his areas of improvement.
Hes hardly a kid. He is 25 a mature recruit and while there is some room for improvement because of inexperience i dont think there is a lot of improvement left which while not always the case is generally what happens.
Not knocking him im just saying what i think. He is a good size and height but i think he is slow and lacks a bit of agility.I was also concerned about how to say it without firing people up how he fumbled and panicked at times.
Like Astbury who i felt we could have done better than even though he did a decent job i think at the moment the same way about Young.
We have a bloke who is a solid enough defender and can be played to negate i just dont see too much else.
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Didn’t play AFL for 9 years and only came back to the game in 2021.
I think we can conclude that there is significant scope for incremental improvement despite his age
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I must admit the knocks on Young I find extraordinary.
He's a kid playing KP back. In a backline where Grimes has been poor, Broad missed a chunk through suspension, Balta isn't someone I'd rely upon for guidance. I think his first year was exceptional considering.
Has plenty of growth so I hold no concerns of his areas of improvement.
Hes hardly a kid. He is 25 a mature recruit and while there is some room for improvement because of inexperience i dont think there is a lot of improvement left which while not always the case is generally what happens.
Not knocking him im just saying what i think. He is a good size and height but i think he is slow and lacks a bit of agility.I was also concerned about how to say it without firing people up how he fumbled and panicked at times.
Like Astbury who i felt we could have done better than even though he did a decent job i think at the moment the same way about Young.
We have a bloke who is a solid enough defender and can be played to negate i just dont see too much else.
Such a load of BS, sorry dude but come on.
Dusty was 26 when he hit his prime.
Young turned 25 like 2-3 weeks ago?
There are stacks of examples of players improving after their early 20's.
You make it sound like they have until 21-23 and then that's the ceiling.
All players are different.
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Great stat that he was AFL top 5 for not losing 1 v 1 contests. It takes all types to make up an effective defence, and a lockdown tall is a handy asset. Should improve with another AFL preseason under his belt and a season in the experience bank.
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If he can develop into a reliable B grader that would be a win.
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I agree with Claw about his similarities to Astbury and that is exactly why I like the kid.
Like Astbury he is a solid negating key back who can take the occasional contested mark but mostly relies on the spoil.
Where i differ from Claw is that I think that is exactly what we need.
As rebounding defenders we have the other SIX - Rioli, Short, Balta, Broad, Vlastuin and Grimes (Gibcus)
We do not need anyone else to rebound with run.
Young is a good kick, can compete in the air and is building his strength in the contest and in his decision making.
He may not be very agile which leads to his rare defeats in the contest but that is usual for a key defender.
I watched the North game with a mate and he was critical for the same reasons as most here.
I pointed out my reasoning as here and he said he would just like him to take more marks.
He then took a strong contested mark and I replied that it was one he had to take.
He then took a few more strong contested marks and I simply nodded to my mate eqch time and he agreed with me by the end of the game.
Note that he was against Larkey who I think is the best CHF in the comp by a mile.
He is very similar to Astbury and will probably take a similar trajectory.
Even Tarrant when he was good was a very similar type.
I'd rate his year a 6 or 7 like most here but expect him to improve that rating over the coming years, especially if we can afford a settled back line.l