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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 01, 2023, 03:23:14 PM
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What do think our best 23 will look like next year?
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Ask me after trade week and the draft.
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Geez the dust has not even settled on the season and here we are.
As it stands i dont think it is just about best 23 next year. Its going to be just as much about playing kids with high potential in their best roles.
If Judson Clarke is a better fwd option than say Jack Graham and Graham is not in our best half dozen mids then don't play him.
Its going to be about finding ways to get games into kids we are sure are going to be the future. WE must stop playing senior players in the kids roles just because of their past deeds.
I also think we really need to look at players who have pace and good skills to go with it.
Any way i am a sucker for these type of threads so here goes.
FB: Vlastuin 187/87 - Balta 194/100 - Bauer 192/86..
HB: Brown ??/?? - Gibcus 197/?? - Broad/Smith/Trezise/Rioli.
Bauer to me seems an obvious type to replace Grimes. tall agile and strong in the air he has shown more than enough to be tried in Grimes place. This despite our lack of tall forwards
Brown has to be played and developed. The 4 named on the other flank would all make great options. Would stick with Broad because with out him or Rioli the back half would lack too much experience. That means Rioli up to a wing solving one of our wing problems and would then let Banks Smith and Trezise fight for the other wing. Atm Banks has his nose in front but if Smith can get fit i think he will surprise a few. Pace and disposal the key with him..
C: Rioli 179/?? - Taranto 187/87 - Banks 187/??
R: Nankervis 199/102 - Martin 187/90 - Bolton 175/77
Pace good users of the ball and plenty of inside grunt. It leaves us with very good rotations waiting on the bench.
HF: Clarke 179/74 - Koschitzke 196/94 - Coulthard 176/76
FF: Ryan 206/?? - Lynch 199/99 - Campbell 182/??
Ryan aside who is primarily a ruckman who we need to get games into and shown he can pinch hit fwd, they all are actual fwds.
Clarke and Coulthard playing high bring pace and skills and Campbell who is also quick imo can rotate thru the midfield. Clearly we need the two big kpp's in Lynch and Kosi for structure.
INT: Hopper 187/86 - Prestia 175/82 - Baker 173/72 - Sonsie 181/??.
23rd from: Short - Ross - Smith - Trezise.
Nine players who played more than 10 games this year who imo we should be looking to replace in the team unless they lift.
McIntosh 30, Pickett 32, Grimes 32, Graham 26, Young 25, Miller 24, Mansell 23, Ralphsmith 22, MRJ 21.
Brown, Smith, Trezise, Banks, Gibcus, Bauer, Clarke, Coulthard, Koschitzke Campbell and Sonsie need to be looked at in their places.
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According to the HeraldSun:
Richmond round 1 best 23
B: D.Rioli Balta Grimes
HB: Short Broad Vlastuin
C: Ross Taranto McIntosh
HF: Bolton Koschitzke Baker
F: Martin Lynch Pickett
R: Nankervis Hopper Prestia
I/C: Young Dow Graham Bauer Ryan
INJURED
Gibcus (hamstring, should be fit for round 1)
DEPTH
Tresize, M.Rioli, Gibcus, Banks, Mansell
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-predicted-round-1-best-teams-for-every-club/news-story/57f8f476e3fde6dc82cac08a48ec8068
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I'd be wanted Graham and Pickett out of that team. Maybe kmac too.
Banks, Brown and Gibcus in if fit.
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I'd be wanted Graham and Pickett out of that team. Maybe kmac too.
Banks, Brown and Gibcus in if fit.
I want those 3 in too, just not sure how broad, brown and gibcus all exist in the backline. Would be okay if grimes retired maybe.
Talk of gibcus going back allows balta forward but having only one tire kpd in young makes me nervous… I suppose Melbourne did it with lever and may, would be like young and gibcus for us… Kmart version
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I wonder if the new coach will do something stupid and try to style the team after his personal whims. Usually new coaches are pretty stupid and they start picking their own favourites. It will be interesting to see if Yze is stupid.
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According to the HeraldSun:
Richmond round 1 best 23
B: D.Rioli Balta Grimes
HB: Short Broad Vlastuin
C: Ross Taranto McIntosh
HF: Bolton Koschitzke Baker
F: Martin Lynch Pickett
R: Nankervis Hopper Prestia
I/C: Young Dow Graham Bauer Ryan
INJURED
Gibcus (hamstring, should be fit for round 1)
DEPTH
Tresize, M.Rioli, Gibcus, Banks, Mansell
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-predicted-round-1-best-teams-for-every-club/news-story/57f8f476e3fde6dc82cac08a48ec8068
Slowest midfield in history unfortunately. Including the wingers.
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Taranto is fast though!
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According to the HeraldSun:
Richmond round 1 best 23
B: D.Rioli Balta Grimes. Bauer for Grimes Rioli to wing and Gibcus comes in as a kpd.
HB: Short Broad Vlastuin. Short to 23rd man and Brown gets that flank
C: Ross Taranto McIntosh. Ross out and Rioli gets his wing. McIntosh out Banks gets McIntosh,s wing
HF: Bolton Koschitzke Baker. Bolton starts onball Clarke gets that flank, Baker to bench and Campbell gets that flank.
F: Martin Lynch Pickett. Dusty to start on ball coulthard gets the pocket, Pick is out and Ryan plays third tall second ruck.
R: Nankervis Hopper Prestia. Hopper and Prestia start on the bench while dusty and Bolton start here.
I/C: Young Dow Graham Bauer Ryan. Interchange becomes Hopper, Prestia, Baker Sonsie and Short.
INJURED
Gibcus (hamstring, should be fit for round 1)
DEPTH
Tresize, M.Rioli, Gibcus, Banks, Mansell
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-predicted-round-1-best-teams-for-every-club/news-story/57f8f476e3fde6dc82cac08a48ec8068
That should fix it. Outside of the 23 with the changes depth in each area is very shallow.
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According to the HeraldSun:
Richmond round 1 best 23
B: D.Rioli Balta Grimes
HB: Short Broad Vlastuin
C: Ross Taranto McIntosh
HF: Bolton Koschitzke Baker
F: Martin Lynch Pickett
R: Nankervis Hopper Prestia
I/C: Young Dow Graham Bauer Ryan
INJURED
Gibcus (hamstring, should be fit for round 1)
DEPTH
Tresize, M.Rioli, Gibcus, Banks, Mansell
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-predicted-round-1-best-teams-for-every-club/news-story/57f8f476e3fde6dc82cac08a48ec8068
Slowest midfield in history unfortunately. Including the wingers.
when every team has a need for speed we keep getting slower and slower.
No matter how much spin anyone puts on it, this is a very average team that will once again push for 8-18th spot. That is all we can hope for. No mans land.
kmac and graham in the same side again. :lol They are both cooked.
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Thank you...
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I'd be wanted Graham and Pickett out of that team. Maybe kmac too.
Banks, Brown and Gibcus in if fit.
Agree.
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Every AFL club’s best 23 for ‘24
Ben Cotton, Catherine Healey and Jono Baruch
Fox Sports
October 23rd, 2023 5:03 pm
RICHMOND
B: Noah Balta, Dylan Grimes, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short, Nathan Broad, Daniel Rioli
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dion Prestia, Jack Ross
HF: Liam Baker, Jacob Koschitzke, Dustin Martin
F: Jack Graham, Tom Lynch*, Shai Bolton
FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Gibcus*, Marlion Pickett, Maurice Rioli Jnr, Sam Banks, Jacob Bauer (sub)
(Italics = new player, * = injured/facing suspension but in best 23 when fit)
Key off-season ins: Jacob Koschitzke
Key off-season outs: Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Ivan Soldo, Jason Castagna, Robbie Tarrant
WE SAY: While the Tigers had a quiet trade period, with Jacob Koschitzke the only addition, their full-strength still arguably looks as potent as any.
Tom Lynch’s return will clearly provide a huge boost after his 2023 was ruined by injury, though the status of both he and Josh Gibcus remains up in the air.
There’s valid uncertainty around where the rest of their goals will come from, but between Koschitzke, Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton and Maurice Rioli Jnr, there’s still a strong enough overall mix.
If Gibcus is back the Tigers will have quite a few defensive options though the reputations may outstretch the performance based on 2023’s numbers.
Adem Yze might be tempted to swing either Gibcus or Noah Balta forward.
How the new Tigers coach puts his own print on this team will be fascinating as one of the big wildcards of next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-best-23s-after-trade-period-ins-and-outs-recruits-signings-injuries-who-will-play-round-1-analysis/news-story/807b20dc10e4067abeef6d7a6301e9c6
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I'd be wanted Graham and Pickett out of that team. Maybe kmac too.
Banks, Brown and Gibcus in if fit.
I want those 3 in too, just not sure how broad, brown and gibcus all exist in the backline. Would be okay if grimes retired maybe.
Talk of gibcus going back allows balta forward but having only one tire kpd in young makes me nervous… I suppose Melbourne did it with lever and may, would be like young and gibcus for us… Kmart version
In what world is Gibcus not KPD size. The lad is 197cm and while he has been off his legs all year you would hope he at least has put on size and strength into his upper body. He only needs to get to 97 kg and he started at 87kg in his draft year. Its not year one its now year three. Gibcus and Brown are the way fwd and we need to be replacing others in the backline with them.
He Gibcus and Balta are so far in front of Young on potential it would be madness not to play them both in front of the battler.
Fine if Balta goes fwd then Young plays kpd.
The player we desperately need to replace is Grimes if last year is anything to go by and his age ITS CALLED SUCCESSION PLANNING. and it smacks you in the face the logical choice is Bauer.
Just play Brown across hb at the end of the day he is a running player. Banks continues in his role on a wing and we get Rioli on the other one. There is nothing but wins in all of this we get plodders like Ross and McIntosh off the wings and 32 year old pickett is out.
In comes quick speedy players who have good delivery going into the fwd half. Its what is lacking.
Really think Broad plays more like a medium despite being 192cm. The rebound he provides is greatly underestimated around here.
His ability to play a bit taller and on smaller opponents while providing run is what makes him so valuable.
He is such a good mover we should also consider playing him on a wing instead of the battlers like McIntosh.
I hear the nay saying but Brown well weather we want to believe it or not he is primarily a running defender think Smith at Geelong and Birchall Hawthorn.
Balta who has good height hes taller than May, is a big big unit at 194cm and 100kg. Gibcus at 197cm and getting to 97kg is a kp player. The two together have huge potential we as a club just need to make sure that potential comes to the fore.
The way fwd imo.
B; Vlastuin - Balta/Young - Bauer/Grimes. Balta instead of young Bauer instead of Grimes
HB Brown - Gibcus - Broad. Our gun young kpd gibcus into the team and Brown our pick 17 who is ready to plays.
C: Rioli - Taranto - Banks. We get Rioli into the midfield and we continue to get games into Banks.
Getting younger players into the team in their right roles is actually an easy exercise. What seems to be hard for people is replacing old over the hill favorites with a handful of kids.
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My guess is Gibcus is finished and will probably end up suing Luke Meehan and the club.... :shh
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Your club's best 22 in 2024: Who's in, who's out, who's new
Sarah Black
afl.com.au
25 October 2023
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A fairly quiet Trade Period for the Tigers means minimal ins for the start of the 2024 campaign, although Tom Lynch will be like a new recruit – and a very good one at that – after missing most of this season due to injury. The retirement of Jack Riewoldt means Jacob Koschitzke should come into the best 22, while the return of Josh Gibcus from injury will also be a welcome boost down back. The loss of Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide will put even more responsibility on Toby Nankervis and young tall Samson Ryan, although ruck reinforcements could be on the way over summer. Despite the exits of Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin, Richmond's top-end talent is still the envy of most clubs and the Tigers will rely heavily on the likes of Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton and Tim Taranto to lift them back into finals in 2024.
B: Noah Balta, Dylan Grimes, Josh Gibcus
HB: Jayden Short, Nick Vlastuin, Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett, Tim Taranto, Jack Ross
HF: Shai Bolton, Liam Baker, Jack Graham
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Nathan Broad, Samson Ryan, Kamdyn McIntosh, Thomson Dow
Emerg: Tylar Young, Noah Cumberland, Maurice Rioli jnr, Sam Banks
*players in italics are new to the club
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1057038/your-clubs-best-22-in-2024-whos-in-whos-out-whos-new
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Young is the new Astbury.
Balta the new Rance (Kmart)
Brown potentially the new Grimes?
Gibcus could be something we haven't had before like a Lever-type or maybe he could go back and Balta could go forward.
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It's a new era at Punt Road, but with many of the same faces on the field. What can Adem Yze get out of the Tigers in 2024?
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https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1717043310332883297
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It's a new era at Punt Road, but with many of the same faces on the field. What can Adem Yze get out of the Tigers in 2024?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9HDZ0TboAAiZew?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1717043310332883297
Gunna be a boring old year if thats the regular team.
Same old same olds with a pile of very ordinary non deserving favorites playing regularly with almost no kids getting a game.
No evolving with that team but wait we are gunna win the flag lol.
Sheesh i think the rugby league is looked better and better.
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Take our KMac, Pickett, MRJ and Graham.
Insert Young, Brown, Coulthard/Clarke, Bauer.
Clarke probably sub
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So clearly no one thinks the new coach can get anything or is only going to get very little out of the current group
It would appear that despite a new voice there's not the slightest possibility blokes can actually improve
And Heaven forbid a new coach might play blokes in their best positions
Am I the only person who's going to give the new bloke a chance to get the absolute best out of our players?
Would think (hope) every bloke starts with a clean slate under a new coach.
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Of course, WP. Things can change, blokes can improve. Young fellas could and hopefully will be given a bit more of a go.
I just reckon a lot of people have seen some players for so long and are craving new faces. In some cases I can't blame them.
It will be most welcome to see the likes of Pickett playing wing/mid and not near the forward line again under the new coach
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Similar to how even with back to back premiers, teams don’t field the same 22 players in consecutive GFs we’re gonna be in for a surprise for better or worse with our best 22.
I think we can all agree the drop in form from prestia caught everyone off and similarly speaking the e were all pleasantly surprised how good Balta was when he had that purple patch in the first half of the year.
I’m hoping we get some good surprise packets from our 2021 draft crop and hopefully our veterans don’t drop off too much. It’d be a dream if we could get into the finals and watch oppositions poo themselves if we bring in a fit dusty
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It's a new era at Punt Road, but with many of the same faces on the field. What can Adem Yze get out of the Tigers in 2024?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9HDZ0TboAAiZew?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1717043310332883297
Gunna be a boring old year if thats the regular team.
Same old same olds with a pile of very ordinary non deserving favorites playing regularly with almost no kids getting a game.
No evolving with that team but wait we are gunna win the flag lol.
Sheesh i think the rugby league is looked better and better.
I would rather see D Rioli forward and Jack Graham forward is a no.
Pickett & Macintosh have been great servants but its time for a more youthful team so Banks and Clarke or Down come in.
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I think both half forward flanks should be filled with Bolton and Martin and of course they rotate with hopper and Taranto. Both players are wasted planted as forward pockets especially when the ball never ends up down there
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Sort of agree but need to improve defensively, Dusty is hard to beat one on one in the pocket
if others want to take Pickets and Maca’s spot they need to get their fitness levels to elite
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I think both half forward flanks should be filled with Bolton and Martin and of course they rotate with hopper and Taranto. Both players are wasted planted as forward pockets especially when the ball never ends up down there
The high half forwards need to be elite running machines - neither of those guys are that. That's why Graham gets a gig there, no other reason, we all know he isn't there for his kicking or goal sense.
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The high half forward also needs to be an elite kick when you don’t have a lynch or curnow type kpf in your forward line. That’s my preference for them there but I agree their lack of elite running ability means the ball can slingshot out extremely fast if we turn it over
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The high half forward also needs to be an elite kick when you don’t have a lynch or curnow type kpf in your forward line. That’s my preference for them there but I agree their lack of elite running ability means the ball can slingshot out extremely fast if we turn it over
That's why Moir is only kid I'm still vaguely interested in us drafting at this point...with stress on "vaguely"...big chance he'll just be another Harrison Wigg...also rated the best kick of his draft , never played a senior game and delisted twice..,,Moir though at least has the edge of being taller, quicker, better in the air and genuinely dual-sided... :shh
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Wasn’t Ben Lennon the most elite kick in his draft year?
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Wasn’t Ben Lennon the most elite kick in his draft year?
1 of, ditto C.Ellis.
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CEllis certainly wasn't rated as a good kick...surely? Lennon was a legitimately good kick
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy7pW25rE8q/
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ON-BALL ANALYSIS: THE STARTING MIDFIELD GROUPS
Andrew Slevison
SEN
25 November 2023
How strong is your club’s midfield group heading into 2024?
You can’t win anything in footy without a quality on-ball unit, so we’ve analysed the starting midfields for all 18 clubs.
We’ve named the six players that will start in the positions of ruck, ruck rover, rover, centre and wings.
Below each group is an analysis and explanation of the group and how they may fare next season.
Note: Players with long-term injuries have been left out of these groups.
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On-ball: Toby Nankervis, TimTaranto, Jacob Hopper, Dion Prestia
Wings: Jack Ross, Kamdyn McIntosh
Richmond’s midfield unit is fairly set from a starting viewpoint.
Co-captain Toby Nankervis is the undisputed number one ruckman while reigning best and fairest Tim Taranto and his former GWS colleague Jacob Hopper
Dustin Martin and Shai Bolton are the ones that provide extra depth and grunt by starting in place of Hopper if Adem Yze chooses to go that way.
Jack Ross was effective on the wing under Andrew McQualter in the second half of last season while Kamdyn McIntosh plays a team-first role and is good for defensive protection.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11/25/on-ball-analysis-the-starting-midfield-groups-for-all-18-clubs/
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We need pace and skill on our wings.
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Hopper and Prestia would need to alternate. We can't have both in the centre at the same time. Makes our midfield one paced and too slow. Shai would need to one of the three along with Taranto.
As for the wings, I can't see us going with the same as this year especially under a new coach.
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Excited to see how they all go under the new coach especially Dusty, Cumberland and Sonsie.
Newman and Ziebel also hopefully great coaching additions.
Plus Gibcus and Lynch in will make a huge difference.
I think we have reasonable midfield options and you would think a couple of our new crop should step up, and, excluding too many injuries I think we can go ok!!
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Hopper and Prestia would need to alternate. We can't have both in the centre at the same time. Makes our midfield one paced and too slow. Shai would need to one of the three along with Taranto.
As for the wings, I can't see us going with the same as this year especially under a new coach.
I would move Hopper and play him as a high HFF, like Josh Caddy. We miss that hit up option and he’s a lovely kick. Yes, a lovely kick. Well, kind of.
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Hopper and Prestia would need to alternate. We can't have both in the centre at the same time. Makes our midfield one paced and too slow. Shai would need to one of the three along with Taranto.
As for the wings, I can't see us going with the same as this year especially under a new coach.
I would move Hopper and play him as a high HFF, like Josh Caddy. We miss that hit up option and he’s a lovely kick. Yes, a lovely kick. Well, kind of.
I think he played that role at GWS.
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CEllis certainly wasn't rated as a good kick...surely?
"Mr. 49%" :shh
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Grimes, Graham, Pickett, McIntosh, Ross, Miller, Ralphsmit, Mansell, Young, Pickett all played 13 plus games this year and i don't have any of them in our starting 22. No place for MRJ either he played 10 games last year no more gifts he needs to prove he deserves a game.
Still firmly believe Bolton and Martin have to be starting mids who spend a little bit of time fwd as part of rotations.
Firmly believe we need pace and skill on the wings and think we should try Rioli and Banks there for starters.
Also believe kids in Clarke, Sonsie, Brown Banks have been around long enough and its time to give them first crack.
Also think one of Coulthard at age 22 and Cumberland need to be played. After these two Smith and Tresize. Smith if he can get fit i like a lot and i also like the glimpses Campbell has given and actually would play him as a genuine mid who can start fwd.
Team for me
FB: Bauer - Balta - Vlastuin
HB:Brown - Gibcus - Broad
C: Rioli - Martin - Banks
R: Nankervis - Taranto - Bolton
HF: Clarke - Koschitzke - Cumberland/Coulthard
FF: Campbell - Lynch - Ryan
Int: Hopper - Prestia - Baker - Sonsie - Short.
In short we are not winning any flags for a little while so it is well past time to see what the younger blokes have to offer as a team.
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AFL predicted Rd 1 teams
Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
November 27th, 2023
RICHMOND
B: Noah Balta, Dylan Grimes, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short, Nathan Broad, Daniel Rioli
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dion Prestia, Jack Ross
HF: Liam Baker, Jacob Koschitzke, Dustin Martin
F: Jack Graham, Tom Lynch, Shai Bolton
FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Gibcus, Marlion Pickett, Maurice Rioli Jnr, Sam Banks, Jacob Bauer (sub)
(Italics = new player)
Key off-season ins: Jacob Koschitzke
Key off-season outs: Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Ivan Soldo, Jason Castagna, Robbie Tarrant
Missing: —
WE SAY:
Another club that wasn’t a big player in the draft nor the off-season at large ahead of Adem Yze’s first season at the helm. Jacob Koschitzke was their only trade period addition, while Tom Lynch’s return will clearly provide a huge boost after his 2023 was ruined by injury, though the availability of both he and Josh Gibcus remains up in the air. If Gibcus is right to go, the Tigers will have quite a few defensive options and it could tempt the new coach to swing either Gibcus or Noah Balta forward. Draftee Kane McAuliffe might be an option if Yze wants a bigger-bodied mid, though you sense he’s down the pecking order. How Yze puts his own print on this team will be fascinating as one of the big wildcards of next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-best-23s-for-round-1-in-2024-after-draft-predicted-lineups-ins-and-outs-recruits-trade-period-signings-injuries-analysis/news-story/16c2e35667115ca33e32b4e0e4e0dbd5
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If that Ben Cotton team is our R1 side I'll be very disappointed.
Kmac, Graham, Pickett and MRJ are all lucky to be there.
Grimes too even, bar his runs on the board.
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2km time trials today
1st timmy T. 2nd Jack Graham. 3rd kamdyn
Unless someone improves drastically over the next few months i guess kamdyn isn’t being dislodged off a wing
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If that Ben Cotton team is our R1 side I'll be very disappointed.
Kmac, Graham, Pickett and MRJ are all lucky to be there.
Grimes too even, bar his runs on the board.
If Gibcus is fit he will play kpp.
The forward line is a joke. If we concede both Dusty and Bolton are primarily mids and are badly needed thru the midfield then he has named just two permanent forwards in Lynch and Koschitzke.
They are trying to fit name players into roles that are not their go and not their primary role to the exclusion of actual fwds.
Lack of actual fwds has been an achilles heel most of us acknowledge it but the clowns in the media sheesh.
Blind fred can see we need a desperate injection of pace and skills but no one is picking those who have it.
The majority of our kids are into year three most of them are smalls who come on quicker generally than mediums and talls. we have others who are 23 and 22 in Cumberland and Coulthard.
We really do need to get games into the two talls who have shown a bit of promise in Bauer and Ryan.
For me its simple are we going to win a flag in the next two seasons and the clear and obvious answer is no. That means its time to prioritise youth over age and ordinary role players.
When will these idiots in the media start thinking for themselves instead of just trotting out what others have wrongly said.
These things are so obvious it frustrates ya when people refuse to acknowledge or recognise them.
Instead its oh well we don't need to get games into kids we don't need to find fwds and skillful pacy players ya know what lets just play plodders and average kicks on the wings like McIntosh and Ross and lets put graham and Baker in the fwd half after all we have to fit em in somewhere despite them not being the best fit fwd. Grimesy is not out of form or in decline nope he will have his best year at age 32.
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Vfl team.
Grimes - Young - Mansell
Tresize - Miller - Smith
Pickett - Graham - McIntosh
Naismith - Ross - Dow
Ralphsmith - Fawcett - MRJ
OH-B - #### - Coulthard
Colina - McAuliffe - Green -
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A new era at Tigerland is dawning. Can they stay in the finals mix in 2024 or does a slide loom?
PREDICTED ROUND 1 TEAM:
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https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1729998674720067706
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A TIME OF CHANGE UNDER YZE: AN EARLY LOOK AT RICHMOND’S BEST 22 FOR 2024
Andrew Slevison
SEN
6 December 2023
It is a time of change for the Richmond Football Club.
Adem Yze has been tasked with rebuilding on the run after an era of success under Damien Hardwick and a short stint helmed by interim coach Andrew McQualter.
The Tigers have lost some experience with Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt now gone, a situation which has somewhat thinned out the list depth.
In defence, they’ll be hoping potential young star Josh Gibcus can return to his best after a frustrating and hamstrung 2023. He is expected to slot straight back into the defensive six provided he is fully fit.
Noah Balta is one of the league’s best intercept markers, Nick Vlastuin is a staple in the backline and Tylar Young impressed in his debut season.
Dan Rioli and Jayden Short provide the dash, dare and drive off half-back. Hugo Ralphsmith could be next in line for this role. Rhyan Mansell can play various roles, but primarily as a defender.
The question mark surrounds co-captain Dylan Grimes whose form tapered off late last year. If he can regather some semblance of his best, then he starts. Nathan Broad is a figure of consistency and provides great depth with his versatility.
The midfield has lost Cotchin but that opens up a slot for a player like Thomson Dow to grab. He showed a bit late in the season.
Reigning best and fairest Tim Taranto is the central figure in the middle, and his former Giants teammate Jacob Hopper will be hoping for a year without interruption. Dion Prestia is expected to be a usual suspect in the thick of the action once again.
Midfield depth comes in the form of the evergreen Dustin Martin, who was superb in the back half of last season, as well as Shai Bolton with support from Jack Graham, Dow, and perhaps even Tyler Sonsie after his suspension ends.
Jack Ross should get a crack on the wing and around the midfield after impressing in the latter stages of last season, and Kamdyn McIntosh provides good balance on the wing.
Is Marlion Pickett best 22? He can still play a crucial role, either on the wing or as he did helping Riewoldt up forward, but Yze may have to start looking beyond him and to the future if he truly wants to revitalise this group.
Joint skipper Toby Nankervis starts in the ruck and Samson Ryan should be granted the opportunity to play as a forward who pinch-hits in the middle. Ben Miller is the fallback option for this role.
Up forward, it all revolves around Tom Lynch.
If the 2022 best and fairest and leading goal kicker is fit, then Richmond’s forward line looks so much more dangerous. If he’s not, then it leaves a lot to be desired inside forward 50.
Jacob Koschitzke has seemingly been recruited to step in as a warm body to repack Riewoldt. But he did kick only nine goals in 12 games for Hawthorn last season so buyer beware.
Jacob Bauer is the other tall option but he is very raw and Noah Cumberland needs to find a way to avoid fading out of matches before he can be relied upon.
Martin and Bolton provide the cleverness and spark, Baker (who can also go back or in the middle) has the grunt and skill, and Judson Clarke appears a decent sub option with his ability to kick crucial goals off the bench. He has a bit of upside.
You could also build a case for early games for the likes of Sam Banks, Tom Brown, James Trezise and Matt Coulthard, but they’ll have to earn their stripes. As will Maurice Rioli Jnr, who needs to find his way again, and Sonsie, who is a talent but needs to show it.
BEST 22:
B: N.Vlastuin / N.Balta / J.Gibcus
HB: D.Rioli / T.Young / J.Short
C: J.Ross / J.Hopper / K.McIntosh
HF: D.Martin / T.Lynch / L.Baker
F: J.Koschitzke / S.Ryan / S.Bolton
Fol: T.Nankervis / T.Taranto / D.Prestia
Int: T.Dow / N.Broad / D.Grimes / J.Graham / J.Clarke (sub)
Emg: S.Banks, T.Sonsie, R.Mansell, B.Miller or M.Pickett
Overall thoughts:
It feels like there are at least a handful of positions up for grabs for the Tigers in 2024.
There’s little doubt that Yze will be pushing that as a key message, providing hope to the group of youngsters who have been starved of opportunity during the recent successful era.
The defence is in fairly decent shape with small, medium and tall options. The midfield is ok, but desperately needs significant contributions from emerging on-ballers, and the forward line does rely on one man. Which is worrying.
What the Tigers will really need if they are to avoid a disappointing 2024 season is the age bracket of 20 to 24 to develop sharply as the season progresses. If they don’t come on or stagnate, it will be too much for the established senior players to continue competing as they have for years.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/12/06/a-time-of-change-under-yze-an-early-look-at-richmonds-best-22-for-2024/
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Every AFL team’s best 23 for the 2024 season: Richmond Tigers
What moves will Adem Yze make in his first season at the helm?
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
December 7, 2023
A new era under Adem Yze has begun at Tigerland, with Richmond looking to bounce back from a 10-win campaign that included the departures of premiership icons Damien Hardwick, Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin.
Without an early draft selection and with little movement in the trade period, the Tigers' list hasn't undergone a large restructure despite the coaching change, with Richmond only making one delisting ahead of 2024 to show they're settled with their list.
The recovery of star forward Tom Lynch will be integral in Yze's side potentially challenging for a September return, while the addition of Jacob Koschitzke from Hawthorn adds to Richmond's new-look forward plans.
With a string of Tiger cubs looking to make a name for themselves during this period of change at Punt Road, we've looked to identify what Richmond's best 23-man side might look like in Yze's first year at the helm.
1. Defenders
The Tigers are set to welcome the return of young key backman Josh Gibcus following a season riddled with hamstring issues, with the 20-year-old set to offer some freedom in Adem Yze's key-position plans.
His likely return will allow Yze to consider playing Noah Balta at the other end of the field given Richmond's need for forward reinforcements, while Tylar Young and Nathan Broad are also in contention for key defensive roles down back.
Veteran premiership pair Nick Vlastuin and Dylan Grimes will hold their posts as the leading names on Yze's last line, offering plenty of voice and defensive work rate as staples of the side.
Since transitioning to defence from the forward line, speedster Daniel Rioli has only continued to grow as one of the game's best half-backs and could re-enter the All-Australian conversation after earning a squad selection last year.
Best and fairest winner Jayden Short is another household name who will likely share his time between the backline and midfield following another fine year for the two-time premiership player.
Swingman Jacob Bauer is another who could split his time in defence given his potential need as a forward target, as could Ben Miller, while the Tigers' young defensive ranks of Sam Banks, Tom Brown and James Trezise all got a look at AFL level this year.
2. Midfielders
The 2022 off-season additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper will again be at the forefront of Richmond's midfield plans, with the former enjoying a career-best campaign in his first year at Punt Road to earn the Jack Dyer Medal.
Injuries limited Hopper's impact this year, but his absence did allow opportunities for others to get larger looks in the middle of the field.
Shai Bolton has continued his rise to stardom in further honing his midfield and ball-winning craft, while triple-premiership Tiger Dion Prestia is another who remains an integral piece in the club's engine room and will hope for another 20+ game season in the yellow and black.
Richmond champion Dustin Martin returned to a high level of football this year to be the Tigers' only All-Australian squad selection, with the three-time Norm Smith Medal winner likely to continue his role in roaming across the middle and front thirds of the field.
The hard nut that is Liam Baker is another who will get access to centre bounce stoppages as he continues to make a case as one of the best utility players in the competition, while Jack Graham will offer some defensive traits to Yze's midfield.
The Tigers aren't short on rising midfielders with Tyler Sonsie, Jack Ross and Thomson Dow all set to push for starting roles in 2024, with Yze potentially looking to add some youth to his wing ranks.
Kamdyn McIntosh and Marlion Pickett have been the incumbent wing options for the Tigers but could now face a battle to hold their spots out wide.
2023 co-captain Toby Nankervis remains the first-string ruckman moving forward, with the former Swan likely to gain some assistance from young pair Samson Ryan and Noah Balta when needed. The Tigers also added Nankervis' old teammate Sam Naismith to their ruck depths after the loss of Ivan Soldo this off-season.
3. Forwards
Richmond's tall forward stocks will be an area of intrigue under Adem Yze following a season where the club bid farewell to icon Jack Riewoldt and was also left without Tom Lynch for a majority of the year due to injury.
Lynch isn't a 100 per cent chance of playing against Gold Coast in Opening Round given his lengthy rehabilitation from a nagging foot injury, with new recruit Jacob Koschitzke potentially spearheading Yze's attacking plans.
He could be accompanied by Samson Ryan in attack, with Lynch's return a chance to see all three utilised in the same formation, while defender Noah Balta is another who could start forward. Swingmen Jacob Bauer and Ben Miller could also be in the mix after showing glimpses of comfort in the forward 50 this year.
Behind Riewoldt, Shai Bolton was Richmond's leading goalkicker this year and will likely be utilised across the front half of the field again in 2024 given his speed, agility and scoring impact.
Dustin Martin can be expected to hold a similar role to what he was tasked with in 2023, playing as a deep forward who is given the license to roam free and drift further up the ground.
Competition for small forward spots will be high, with the likes of Maurice Rioli, Judson Clarke, Matt Coulthard and Noah Cumberland all set to press their case, while Rhyan Mansell is another who could get a look as a forward after making the move from defence this year.
4. Final 23
FB: Nick Vlastuin Josh Gibcus Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short Noah Balta Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett Dion Prestia Jack Ross
HF: Liam Baker Jacob Koschitzke Shai Bolton
FF: Maurice Rioli Tom Lynch Dustin Martin
FO: Toby Nankervis Tim Taranto Jacob Hopper
I/C: Dylan Grimes Samson Ryan Jack Graham Judson Clarke
SUB: Jacob Bauer
Also in the mix: Tylar Young, Ben Miller, Matt Coulthard, Noah Cumberland, Kamdyn McIntosh, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks
https://www.zerohanger.com/every-afl-teams-best-23-for-the-2024-season-richmond-tigers-146271/4/
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I predict prestia ‘a body and consequently form will let him down and we might see a bit more sonsie. Also with the off field dramas and how it will most likely effect pickett’s form we’re going to have someone replace his spot as well
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Be very surprised if Prestia or Lynch play every game.....Pickett could very well be gone before the season even starts....Graham and possibly even Hopper if he doesn't recapture his best form could also find themselves on the outer given Yze's stated preference for speed, could also spell trouble for Ross given his outside role and that his unlikely to get a gig on ball where he belongs in front of others ....need to move on from McIntosh....MRJ needs to play on ball in the VFL for at least the first half of the season... Gibcus worries me - should be eased back in....Nank will probably get suspended or injured at some point.....Grimes apart from being injury prone surely won't be a walk up start under Yze if he stinks it up like he did last year.... :shh
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Be very surprised if Prestia or Lynch play every game.....Pickett could very well be gone before the season even starts....Graham and possibly even Hopper if he doesn't recapture his best form could also find themselves on the outer given Yze's stated preference for speed, could also spell trouble for Ross given his outside role and that his unlikely to get a gig on ball where he belongs in front of others ....need to move on from McIntosh....MRJ needs to play on ball in the VFL for at least the first half of the season... Gibcus worries me - should be eased back in....Nank will probably get suspended or injured at some point.....Grimes apart from being injury prone surely won't be a walk up start under Yze if he stinks it up like he did last year.... :shh
Agree with all. Eek
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Be very surprised if Prestia or Lynch play every game.....Pickett could very well be gone before the season even starts....Graham and possibly even Hopper if he doesn't recapture his best form could also find themselves on the outer given Yze's stated preference for speed, could also spell trouble for Ross given his outside role and that his unlikely to get a gig on ball where he belongs in front of others ....need to move on from McIntosh....MRJ needs to play on ball in the VFL for at least the first half of the season... Gibcus worries me - should be eased back in....Nank will probably get suspended or injured at some point.....Grimes apart from being injury prone surely won't be a walk up start under Yze if he stinks it up like he did last year.... :shh
Cannot see Pickett, KMac, Graham in starting 18, possibly one might be jockeying for a spot on bench…..
Hard to argue with Prestia but Lynch should be okay given it’s a break not a soft tissue but reckon he starts later than r1.
Impossible to tell rhetoric from fact with Gibcus, we will find out soon enough.
I would play Hopper as a hit up across half forward, is a nice kick and a good enough mark - similar to Caddy’s role.
Not giving up on Jack Ross and he surely gets a chance on ball first with Cotchin retiring.
I like Sonsie but he needs to earn that spot, like MRJ.
Get some class and speed on the wings - is the model of top 4 sides last year and Banks, Clarke,Brown or Dan Rioli should be considered to give us pace and inside 50 marks with their classier disposal than those that were tried last couple of seasons.
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According to the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/club-by-club-how-richmond-coach-adem-yze-can-ensure-tigers-dont-get-stuck-in-the-past/news-story/0425d25bdb6487e80a64170abfed0476).
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According to the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/club-by-club-how-richmond-coach-adem-yze-can-ensure-tigers-dont-get-stuck-in-the-past/news-story/0425d25bdb6487e80a64170abfed0476).
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That's actually a very good looking side. Youth and experience
The only ones I'd question as being best 23 are Dow and Cumberland and both for the same reason = consistency
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Balta currently training with the forwards which shows Herald/Sun’s lack of due diligence
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Have been told Grimes is having a great pre-season and is happy to release the additional pressure of being Captain. Of the small forwards, Mansell is having a ripper and is the hardest small to play on during match simulation. High expectations for Trezise on the HBF.
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Balta currently training with the forwards which shows Herald/Sun’s lack of due diligence
The history of Balta forward reminds me of the history of Communism - "just hasn't been done properly yet and will work this time...." :shh
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I'm told Balta is having a ripper pre-season and is the hardest forward to play on. Outside of Mansell that is
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I'm told Balta is having a ripper pre-season and is the hardest forward to play on. Outside of Mansell that is
New year same old crap from wankers like you. Time to grow up now you're a teen :wallywink
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I'm told Balta is having a ripper pre-season and is the hardest forward to play on. Outside of Mansell that is
New year same old crap from wankers
You got that right
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I'm told Balta is having a ripper pre-season and is the hardest forward to play on. Outside of Mansell that is
New year same old crap from wankers
You got that right
Could stand to be a bit more gracious considering you're about to be named OER's favorite player.... :shh
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I'm told Balta is having a ripper pre-season and is the hardest forward to play on. Outside of Mansell that is
New year same old crap from wankers
You got that right
Could stand to be a bit more gracious considering you're about to be named OER's favorite player.... :shh
:lol :lol :lol
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2023 was a tough year for the Tigers. Can they bounce back under new coach Adem Yze?
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https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1745340011610866034
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Based on today + who’s coming back in, this is the team I’d predict for opening round
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https://twitter.com/tomwl_thomas/status/1752606423094325264
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I tend to agree OE. I do worry for our stocks down back who plays on the monster duos. Eg McKay and Curnow? Daniher and Hipwood? I feel we are a KPB short. I'd prefer to see Noah back. That's just me.
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Happy new year all. Hope everyone had a great christmas and have a prosperous new year.
To my favorite type of thread where we get to pick teams that won't likely happen, but hope for miracles.
Fourth year in since we won our last flag. We are kidding ourselves if we aren't prioritising getting games into what are not really kids anymore to some degree.
For 4 years now premiership players including 2020 have shown real decline and will continue to do so. There is unfortunately no remedy for age. The real concern is the next level are not showing an ability to take over.
First of all we need a serious injection of pace size and skills on the outside in particular wing half back and high fwd..
We really need to play genuine forwards AND PERSEVERE with them.
For me new coach, start of a big change and new direction.
So new slate for all players meaning old blokes won't get picked on what they managed to do 4 yrs ago.
Pick actual forwards to play forward same for mids and defenders. Stop picking favorites and mids in place of actual fwds and defenders.
Stop playing defenders forward and vice verca and last, the state and age of the list actually demands we prioritise youth as much as is practicable.
Given all are fit and have had good preseasons my round one team would exclude the following keeping in mind what i have said above.
Ross, Short, Grimes, Graham, McIntosh Pickett, MRJ, Mansell, Ralphsmith, Miller. All played at least 13 games last year with the exception of MRJ who played 10 mostly undeserving games by that standard you could say all bar MRJ were regulars.
Bauer Kosi and TL are three starting tall fwds or depending if a second ruck is needed Ryan would be starting fwd as the second ruck instead of Bauer.
Of all those omitted Grimes Short Ross and Graham would appear to be the most contentious ones but are they?.
Grimes well what a poor season he has come off and already has preseason issues. if its a clean slate and reputations don't count then Young as a lock down defender in the Astbury mold and Balta, are based on last year locks for the two kpd spots. Gibcus for mine takes Grimes third tall spot. that is a part of the youth prioritisation path that we must go down.
Short well most want him played across hb but imo there are 4 players who are better options two in Rioli and Broad may well play back again this year but im hoping we roll both up to a wing allowing us to play two talented kids Brown for Broad and Banks for Rioli in their place across hb in their best position. Pace size and delivery across hb and we get a defensive winger in Broad and pace run and skill in Rioli on the other wing. If we look at the stated priorites at the start of the post then these moves are a no brainer.
Graham is not a fwd nor is he a defender he is a slow mid who exacerbates pace problems.
Ross on a wing has been servicable but he too lacks pace run and hurt facter by foot. There really is far better wing options who have been named staring us in the face. Leave the outside roles to those who have the right attributes for the role.
Personally id rather pump games into McAuliffe who looks a beast of a player who will make a contribution to our midfield by winning his own ball.
Miller well atm Young has his spot for me with Miller it is kpd or bust but he has had chances and will now have to force Young out.
Mrj well he is a favorite son but that should not preclude him from much deserved criticism. We do have better options than him and he too should now be made to show significant improvement that is needed.
Ralphsmith well i have no comment. denigrating players always ends in conflict but i will say imo he deserves all the criticism he has copped
McIntosh omg no wonder other supporters laugh at us apart from his hard two way running he lacks in just about all other areas to play wing.
Marlion has his limitations as well and at 32 he is keeping a kid out of the side weather that is wing hb or fwd. Another coming of a horror season lets hope he is picked not on the past but with a clean slate in mind that would mean to start the year he is playing ressies.
Anyway enough of the ravings. my best 23 goes like this. As usual its with an eye on the future and where i think we are at as far as playing youth goes.
FB/ Vlastuin 187/87 - Young 196/?? - Gibcus 196/??. 6 genuine defenders with height size run and skill maybe a bit inexperienced.
HB/ Brown 192 /?? - Balta 195/100 - Banks 187/??
C/ D Rioli 179/79 - Martin 187/90 - Broad 192/??. Ruckman aside that is such a well rounded midfield. Grunt, size, pace, run, x factor and skill
R/ Nankervis 199/101 - Taranto 188/87 - Bolton 175/75.
HF/ Clarke 179/?? - Koschitzke 196/96 - Campbell 182/??. No dinosaurs all actual fwds.Lots of height with a few who can rotate mid.
FF/ Cumberland 183/83 - Lynch 199/99 - Bauer 192/??
INT/ Baker 175/?? - Hopper 186/86 - Prestia 175/82 - Sonsie 181/81. Some youth and the best of the rest imo.
Sub McAuliffe 187/88
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HNY to you as well Claw.
Well one thing that will work in our favour this year is that we will be the underdogs with little expectations to succeed.
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It will be a rebuild no matter what in my opinion , I’m hoping
to see what potential the kids have and with the more senior players to mentor , to show enough to give us hope that we are on the right track.
The best 23 to me are the 23 that earn their spot , sides that have players that compete for spots without fear or favour tend to get the best out of themselves
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According to Sarah Black from the AFL website:
Best 23 for 2024
B: Dylan Grimes, Tylar Young, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Nick Vlastuin, Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett, Tim Taranto, Jack Ross
HF: Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Liam Baker
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Jack Graham, Thomson Dow, Kamdyn McIntosh, Josh Gibcus, Rhyan Mansell
Emerg: Samson Ryan, Sam Banks, Tyler Sonsie, Maurice Rioli jnr
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1075812/richmond-tigers-season-preview-injury-latest-fantasy-locks-track-watch-and-more).
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Probably not far off, although at this stage I think I would rather see guys like Ryan, Banks, Sonsie and MRJ on the bench than Graham, KMac, Mansell etc. I think we've seen enough of those last 3 to know their potential and should be getting games into the former four.
According to Sarah Black from the AFL website:
Best 23 for 2024
B: Dylan Grimes, Tylar Young, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Nick Vlastuin, Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett, Tim Taranto, Jack Ross
HF: Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Liam Baker
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Jack Graham, Thomson Dow, Kamdyn McIntosh, Josh Gibcus, Rhyan Mansell
Emerg: Samson Ryan, Sam Banks, Tyler Sonsie, Maurice Rioli jnr
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1075812/richmond-tigers-season-preview-injury-latest-fantasy-locks-track-watch-and-more).
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According to Sarah Black from the AFL website:
Best 23 for 2024
B: Dylan Grimes, Tylar Young, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Nick Vlastuin, Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett, Tim Taranto, Jack Ross
HF: Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Liam Baker
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Jack Graham, Thomson Dow, Kamdyn McIntosh, Josh Gibcus, Rhyan Mansell
Emerg: Samson Ryan, Sam Banks, Tyler Sonsie, Maurice Rioli jnr
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1075812/richmond-tigers-season-preview-injury-latest-fantasy-locks-track-watch-and-more).
That team is the epitomy of the old saying. Its the epitomy of madness doing the same things over and over expecting things to change.
That team is basically the same group of players with the exception of three who FAILED to make finals last year.
Going by reports Balta and Bolton will play as forwards so with that in mind and we don't prioritise youth the team should go something like this.
FB Vlastuin - Young - Grimes
HB Broad - Gibcus - Rioli.
C McIntosh - Martin - Ross
R Nankervis - Taranto - Prestia
HF Bolton - Balta - Cumberland
FF MRJ - Lynch - Koschitzke
INT Baker - Short - Pickett - Hopper - Graham.
Personally i believe we should be looking to prioritise kids over aging players and battling role players.
The kids named below in those positions are in the main just as good options or have better attributes for the role than those omitted.
FB Vlastuin - Young - Gibcus. that is your backline for at least the next 5 seasons. Gibcus can play kpd but given circumstance third tall
HB Brown- Balta - Trezise. eases him back in.
C Rioli - Martin - Banks. Line breaking wingers who will punish by foot with the class of dusty. Abeast in Taranto and Polish and
R Nankervis - Taranto - Sonsie delivery in Sonsie starting old man Prestia on the bench.
HF Clarke - Koschitzke - Cumberland. two goalkicking smalls in Bolton and noah. Clarke to play the old lambert role then your two kpf
FF Bolton - Lynch - Bauer/Ryan. then one of bauer as third tall or Ryan as 2nd ruck/fwd.
Int Hopper mid- Baker utility - Broad 7th defender. - Prestia mid - Short run.. They imo are the best of the rest and you could start them in the 18.
Who in their right mind would prefer Picket McIntosh or Ross over Rioli and Banks on the wings. no one not based on attributes for the role. The bonus here is it allows very promising kids in Brown and Trezise to get a go in their best roles across hb.
Who doesnt want Gibcus in the team and the form of Grimes does not allow us to move Balta fwd.
Gibcus for Grimes evry day of the week thanks. What the hell did we get Koschitzke for anyway just keep Balta in defence we dont have enough kpd quality back there to be moving him..
Do we or don't we need to find a third tall option fwd ?Bauer. do or don't we need to develop Ryan? he is 23 and needs to further his development in the seniors..
If it means say Jack Graham misses out on games as a fwd or Mansell but it allows us to get games into those two i know which way i want us to go. FFS no slow mids who are part time fwds just play genuine forwards in the fwd line.
Prioritise the younger blokes early in the year if they struggle then we have the oldies to fall back on.
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According to Sarah Black from the AFL website:
Best 23 for 2024
B: Dylan Grimes, Tylar Young, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Nick Vlastuin, Daniel Rioli
C: Marlion Pickett, Tim Taranto, Jack Ross
HF: Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Liam Baker
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Jack Graham, Thomson Dow, Kamdyn McIntosh, Josh Gibcus, Rhyan Mansell
Emerg: Samson Ryan, Sam Banks, Tyler Sonsie, Maurice Rioli jnr
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1075812/richmond-tigers-season-preview-injury-latest-fantasy-locks-track-watch-and-more).
Sorry but IMHO Marlion Pickett is no longer best 23, not even close.
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Take out some of the usual suspects of Pickett, Ross, Graham, Kmac, Mansell and bring in the likes of Banks, Sonsie, Judson, Brown.
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Yze is open to playing two ruckmen in the same 23 this year, but with key defender Noah Balta being transformed into a key forward over the summer and All-Australian forward Tom Lynch on the cusp of returning, the first-year coach is wary of not picking a team that is too tall.
"The big discussion will be when Lynch is available and how big we go. Then we have the opportunity to play Noah as the second ruck," Yze said.
"I do like the model of playing big boys forward. It is a contest game, you go down the line a lot, so you need some big boys to create a contest."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1078806/he-will-deserve-it-injury-plagued-richmond-tiger-sam-naismith-closing-in-on-remarkable-comeback).