One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 22, 2023, 08:30:04 PM
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How do we all rate this year's recruiting effort given what we started with?
INS:
Free Agency & Trade Period:
Jacob Koschitzke 196cm 96kg 11-07-2000 Hawthorn Key Forward
Sam Naismith (DFA) 205cm 108kg 16-07-1992 Port Melbourne Ruck
National Draft:
40. Kane McAuliffe 187cm 86kg 01-03-2005 North Adelaide/South Australia Inside Midfielder
43. Liam Fawcett 197cm 89kg 22-04-2005 Central District/South Australia Key Forward
Category B Rookie:
Oliver Hayes-Brown 208cm 114kg 28-04-2000 Perth Wildcats (NBL) Ruck
Future picks:
2nd (Fremantle)
3rd (West Coast)
3rd (Fremantle)
4th (Essendon)
4th (Port Adelaide)
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Out:
Pick 49 (traded for Koschitzke)
Jason Castagna (retired)
Trent Cotchin (retired)
Jack Riewoldt (retired)
Robbie Tarrant (retired)
Kaelan Bradtke (delisted rookie)
Bigoa Nyuon (traded to North)
Ivan Soldo (traded to Port)
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Fox Footy said we did the worst giving us a "C-" for our National draft effort.
Every AFL club’s 2023 draft haul analysed, and how their new recruits fit in: Report Card
Ben Cotton, Ben Waterworth and Max Laughton
Fox Sports
November 22nd, 2023
Gold Coast, Adelaide and North Melbourne finished with a terrific haul, while the Giants took a risk and Richmond kept its powder dry.
RICHMOND
Picks (at start of the draft): 29, 41, 65, 68
Selections: Kane McAuliffe (40), Liam Fawcett (43)
Were the Tigers prioritising the 2024 draft? Or were they just so keen on the two talls that went early in the second round that they were prepared to move down the order? Richmond started night two with Pick 35, but after West Coast selected Archer Reid and Brisbane pounced on Logan Morris — two forwards the Tigers had been linked to — it moved down five spots after doing two separate trades with Fremantle and West Coast. The Tigers ultimately got their key forward at Pick 43 in Liam Fawcett from Central District after taking another South Australian in Kane McAuliffe three picks earlier. McAuliffe is your typical inside midfielder who thrives at the coalface. Richmond was only expected to use two picks at the draft, so it was no surprise they traded out their last pick for a couple in the future. Overall, they added three more picks to their 2024 draft haul.
Grade: C-
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Gold Coast A
Adelaide A-
Essendon A-
North Melb. A-
St Kilda B+
Geelong B
Hawthorn B
Melbourne B
W.Bulldogs B
Collingwood B-
Fremantle B-
West Coast B-
Carlton C+
GWS Giants C+
Port Adel. C+
Sydney C+
Brisbane C
Richmond C-
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-fox-footy-report-card-grades-every-clubs-picks-analysed-who-your-team-picked-selections-round-1-2024-teams-news/news-story/034a8f5f6e78a63d47a0195cfa193815
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Well I'm feeling good about going into the 24 draft with a good hand of points and picks myself and I actually feel we addressed some needs.
Needed KPFs, got Kosi and Fawcett.
Needed ruck depth got Naismith and the CatB guy.
A big mid too.
No small kids yet which is great.
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I think the gaining of picks for a stronger draft next year was a smart move
Moved it from poo to a pass
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I gave it a 6
for the reasons listed by Andyy and Damo
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These ratings only take into consideration one point in time. They do not consider where a club is at list management wise.
We are working to a long term plan
2020 traded out Higgins Markov for 2nd and 3rd round picks in 21
Also traded 20 pick #20 to Geelong for their 21 1st round pick
2021 used all those picks bringing in Gibcus and co
2022 traded for Taranto and Hopper fixing midfield weakness
2023 aimed to fill our hole in tall players tarding in Kosi and drafting Fawcett. Took an inside midfield with view of him being ready for midfield when Taranto Hopper are in decline
Set up 2024 with 9 selections
Not everything will work out but the club has a plan with a long term vision.
All good for mine and couldn't give a stuff about ratings from some nufter who does not have any in depth knowledge of where we sit.
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The draft ratings also fail to take into consideration the personal bias of the journo writing them.
Eg- Kane Cornes would look at Port's drafting/trading with the rose coloured glasses on, then compare Port's 'achievements' (automatically glossing over their glaring faults) to ours & come to the damning conclusion that our drafting/trading was poor. Then the sheep follow ...
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Well I'm feeling good about going into the 24 draft with a good hand of points and picks myself and I actually feel we addressed some needs.
Needed KPFs, got Kosi and Fawcett.
Needed ruck depth got Naismith and the CatB guy.
A big mid too.
No small kids yet which is great.
Agree.
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Considering our picks I think we did pretty well.
Most importantly we have all next years picks intact.
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62/100
Rating 6.2
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Clawski must have set up a new account to vote twice
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Clawski must have set up a new account to vote twice
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Funniest post of the year
Genuinely clever
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Disappointed we did not cut a bit harder and manage to get higher up the draft order.
Just 2 nd picks again and late ones at that. The long term list management has been terrible imo.
Forced to trade for Taranto and Hopper because we just refused to take their types in drafts.
Forced to trade for Koschitzke for the same reasons. My complaints are not about just this year.
On this year well i agree with andy. They did try late to get up the draft order and when that failed did take needs.
Am over the basketballer experiments as well just find FOOTBALLERS.
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Disappointed we did not cut a bit harder and manage to get higher up the draft order.
Just 2 nd picks again and late ones at that. The long term list management has been terrible imo.
Forced to trade for Taranto and Hopper because we just refused to take their types in drafts.
Forced to trade for Koschitzke for the same reasons. My complaints are not about just this year.
On this year well i agree with andy. They did try late to get up the draft order and when that failed did take needs.
Am over the basketballer experiments as well just find FOOTBALLERS.
One positive is that we have a good hand for next year. Should be targeting 2 top 10s or at least 1 and 2 top 20s
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I noticed a shift through in recruiting we drafted and traded for needs were in the past we ignored this.Maybe Yze made that clear.
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From ESPN:
Richmond
Pre-draft picks: 29, 41, 64, 66
Players drafted: Kane McAuliffe (40), Liam Fawcett (43)
The Tigers had a bare shelf of picks after bringing in Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper last year, then traded back twice to bring in future selections as well. At 40 they took the upside of Kane McAuliffe, a powerful athlete who brings explosiveness through the midfield. The SA on-baller tested well at the combine in the speed and agility areas. The Tigers then grabbed key forward Liam Fawcett, who is one of the better set shots in this year's draft pool.
Grade: C-
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Gold Coast A+
St Kilda A+
Collingwood A
Essendon A
North Melb. A
Adelaide A-
Fremantle A-
Geelong B+
West Coast B+
Brisbane B
Carlton B
Hawthorn B
W.Bulldogs B
Port Adel. C+
Sydney C
Melbourne C-
Richmond C-
GWS Giants D+
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/38953036/2023-afl-draft-every-pick-team-graded
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Disappointed we did not cut a bit harder and manage to get higher up the draft order.
Just 2 nd picks again and late ones at that. The long term list management has been terrible imo.
Forced to trade for Taranto and Hopper because we just refused to take their types in drafts.
Forced to trade for Koschitzke for the same reasons. My complaints are not about just this year.
On this year well i agree with andy. They did try late to get up the draft order and when that failed did take needs.
Am over the basketballer experiments as well just find FOOTBALLERS.
One positive is that we have a good hand for next year. Should be targeting 2 top 10s or at least 1 and 2 top 20s
We could end up with 5 picks in the the first round and ol' claw will still find a way to bitch about it ...#miseryguts :shh
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I believe we did the best we could with what we had, picks to trade ,a CHF and an inside mid. I have been critical but at face valve a good job by our recruiters this year. You can’t make strawberry jam out of horse manure
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I believe we did the best we could with what we had, picks to trade ,a CHF and an inside mid. I have been critical but at face valve a good job by our recruiters this year. You can’t make strawberry jam out of horse manure
:thumbsup
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Reckon they did a great job stock piling picks for next seasons bumper draft
Reckon we might end up with jars full of strawberry jam
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Disappointed we did not cut a bit harder and manage to get higher up the draft order.
Just 2 nd picks again and late ones at that. The long term list management has been terrible imo.
Forced to trade for Taranto and Hopper because we just refused to take their types in drafts.
Forced to trade for Koschitzke for the same reasons. My complaints are not about just this year.
On this year well i agree with andy. They did try late to get up the draft order and when that failed did take needs.
Am over the basketballer experiments as well just find FOOTBALLERS.
One positive is that we have a good hand for next year. Should be targeting 2 top 10s or at least 1 and 2 top 20s
We could end up with 5 picks in the the first round and ol' claw will still find a way to bitch about it ...#miseryguts :shh
Whats to like about our first rounders since 2017. Have we even got one right.
Lets see precious.
2017
Higgins #17 lol another small runt the current lot like to pick. No longer at the club and imo not a first round pick to date.
CCJ #20 Laughable selection your prototype not quite either pick.
2018 #20 RC-D what a bust.
2019 #21 Thomson Dow lucky to be still there lol.
2020 oh thats right we didnt think there was a kid worth picking in the the first 39.
2021 #9 Gibcus, #17 Brown. Its still wait and see we certainly ignored our most pressing list needs not just with these two picks but the next three as well.
2022 Hmm first pick at 49 lol we dont need to be a part of the draft.
2023 First pick at 43 hilarious.
your okay with all that. Only conclusion is your having a lend of yourself. Plenty right there to be miserable about. Not that im being miserable just plain old honest about what we have got wrong and where we are heading.
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Yeah none of that changes the fact you'd still bitch no matter what we did - and deep down you know it because it's the essence of who you are - the fact you're here whinging about our draft picks from years when we *checks notes* WON THREE STUFFING FLAGS proves it... :shh
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Yeah none of that changes the fact you'd still bitch no matter what we did - and deep down you know it because it's the essence of who you are - the fact you're here whinging about our draft picks from years when we *checks notes* WON THREE STUFFING FLAGS proves it... :shh
We are meant to win flags and draft first
Wake up Dio
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Surprised the AFL didn't just give us top 10 picks in honour of our achievement...pretty disrespectful if you ask me.... :shh
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Stick to the topic without the insults :banghead