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AFL Round 5
West Coast vs RICHMOND
Sunday, 14th April @ Optus Stadium
Start time: 2:00 PM WST (4:00 PM EST)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/5940
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'Good match-up': Tantalising Dusty-Harley duel on the cards
Richmond has made Harley Reid a focus ahead of the clash with West Coast this week, highlighting the first-year star's strengths in a video session
By AAP
10 April 2024
Harley Reid's eye-catching show of brute strength in just his fourth AFL game has Richmond superstar Dustin Martin and teammates on high alert ahead of their clash with West Coast.
No.1 draft pick Reid made fending off tackles his trademark throughout an outstanding junior career, drawing early comparisons with Martin.
And he brought that talent to the big league during Gather Round.
The 18-year-old Eagle's impressive display against Sydney at Mount Barker included 18 disposals, four clearances, seven tackles, six score involvements and two goal assists.
But it was his ability to brush off would-be tacklers that really stood out.
Reid shrugged a total of seven Swans opponents, including one in a passage of play that led to his first senior goal with a classy snap in the opening term.
The tally of seven broken tackles fell just one short of the all-time record held by Martin and North Melbourne's Luke Davies-Uniacke.
Richmond star Shai Bolton revealed Reid's powerful performance was highlighted in a video session at Punt Road this week in a preparation for Sunday's clash at Optus Stadium.
"You can see how strong he is - a lot of people compare him to Dusty (Martin)," Bolton said.
"It will be just good to play against him. I'll be on him in the midfield now and then, so we'll see how we go."
The prospect of Reid going head-to-head with Martin is a tantalising one.
"Dusty's just excited to play football and he just plays the way he wants to play, but he's obviously aware of (Reid's strength)," Bolton said.
"We've seen him play and we've watched vision today, but it would be a good match-up I reckon."
Bolton was asked how he would go about laying a tackle on Reid.
"I'll just have to duck under his arm," he said.
"Hopefully if I do tackle him he doesn't palm me, but we'll see how we go."
Bolton starred in a pair of comfortable Richmond wins over West Coast last year, picking up three Brownlow Medal votes in both rounds eight and 18.
The West Australian product also polled two votes against Fremantle on the Tigers' other trip to Perth in 2023.
He has been outstanding again this season and looms as a potential match-winner after dazzling with four goals in Richmond's narrow loss to St Kilda last week.
"It's just good to play in front of all my family and all the Richmond fans back in WA," Bolton said.
"That's the best thing about it - playing in front of family and friends."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1105579
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Here we go.
The next Dusty.
Like Cam Rayner lol.
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Battle for the No 1 draft pick coming up
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An acquaintance from my gym , who I talk footy with offered me a free ticket to this game . He’s mad West Coast but knows I’m a tigers man .
Really looking forward to going despite my gut feeling it might be more competitive than recent battles .
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Eagles ponder plan to stop Tigers livewire
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
11 April 2024
Wwat Coast will take a plan for Richmond goalkicking star Shai Bolton into Sunday's clash at Optus Stadium, but coach Adam Simpson knows there are no guarantees of success when trying to combat the livewire Tiger.
Bolton, who kicked 5.6 across his two games against the Eagles last season, has kicked 11 goals this season and earned the maximum 10 coaches' votes for his game-breaking four-goal performance against St Kilda last Sunday at Norwood Oval.
Quelling the forward/midfield star shapes as a job for versatile West Coast defender Brady Hough, with Simpson working through options at the club's main training session at Optus Stadium on Thursday.
"I suspect every team has a plan, and he seems to get around it every week. He's done a lot of damage on us over the years, and we've got to put some work into him," Simpson said.
"He spends so much time up the ground as well, so that's where they get you. You think you've got them covered, and then they go on-ball for a bit and do some damage there.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1105877/eagles-on-eagles-ponder-plan-to-stop-tigers-livewire
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For those in or going to Perth this weekend. There's an open training session tomorrow arvo.
Open Training
Saturday, April 13
Optus Stadium
Gate D from 1:15pm AWST
Training from 1:30pm AWST
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/football/open-training
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For those in or going to Perth this weekend. There's an open training session tomorrow arvo.
Open Training
Saturday, April 13
Optus Stadium
Gate D from 1:15pm AWST
Training from 1:30pm AWST
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/football/open-training
Yeah go and watch a few more of our players go down with injuries
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The cubs may get jet lag :lol
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THE CERTAINTIES - West Coast versus Richmond
Jack Makeham
SEN
13 April 2024
Brown collects 15+ disposals and 2+ rebound 50s
He mightn’t be particularly well-known around the league just yet, but young Tom Brown has been making waves at Tigerland this season.
The 20-year-old has drawn tremendous praise for his piercing boot, routinely nailing outrageous kicks with deadly accuracy coming out of the backline.
The clash against West Coast will mark just his fifth senior appearance, yet every time he steps on the park Adem Yze gives him more licence to take the game on.
Expect the bright prospect to have a career game against a West Coast side that can’t keep the ball out of their opponent’s hands.
McGovern for 25+ disposals, 4+ intercept possessions
We’ve backed Jeremy McGovern for a certainty in all bar one of West Coast’s games this season, reflecting the fact that he has essentially been the only reliable Eagle in 2024.
The star defender stands out amidst another season in the doldrums for West Coast, averaging 23.8 disposals per game and ranking 16th in the competition for intercepts.
Richmond have been far from efficient going inside 50 this season, sitting 15th in the comp, so there will undoubtedly be plenty of easy footy for McGovern to pick off.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/13/the-12-certainties-for-the-rest-of-round-5/
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Looking forward to McCauliffe getting a full run at it today ! ( surely not sub )
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Looking forward to McCauliffe getting a full run at it today ! ( surely not sub )
Me too, good luck to him
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Beautiful day in Perth - not a cloud in the sky .
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Sonsie the sub :thumbsdown
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Sonsie the sub :thumbsdown
Disgraceful. Ralphsmith should be sub
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It’s gone cloudy- no chance of rain though.
I’m already at the ground .
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Can’t believe Ralphsmith is not the sub
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Dow free out of the centre and Lefau leads and marks. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 1.0-6
WCE 0.0-0
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Maurice almost stuffed that up not going back over the mark. Shai saves the day and goals :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
WCE 0.0-0
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Shai misses
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Baker out of the middle wide to Dan Rioli who hits up Bolton 45 out. Misses.
13 - 0
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Notice Graham started on Reid in the middle for the start
BTW poor crowd by Eagles standards
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Today should be a reality check as to why we won’t finish bottom. West coast is so bad
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Howler in D50 by the Eagles. Dusty to Bolton = goal! :gotigers
Rich 3.1-19
WCE 0.1-1
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Baker has brought his own footy today. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 4.1-25
WCE 0.1-1
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Gee that was stupid by the Captain :scream
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Speckie by Floss :o :clapping
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Vlastuin with the best mark of his career
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Reckon Kosi as 2nd ruck works
Kosi the forward doesn't but 2nd ruck does ;D
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MRJ misses
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Mansell to Maurice who out-positions Duggan and dives to mark 35 out. Misses.
26 - 1
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Graham nails the tackle and gets the free at HF. Off to Short who takes a ping but misses.
27 - 1
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And we again allow a late red time goal to the opposition :banghead. No one standing in the space in front of Darling.
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Make that two :banghead.
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Injuries or not we really shouldn’t lose this one
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Make that 3 ::)
Getting panced 0-7 in clearances in the last 10 mins. Wasted our chances and now just softly allowed the Eagles to get back into it :banghead.
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A tale as familiar as time itself.
Total switch off here
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Typical junk time goals conceded
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Quarter time
Richmond 4.3-27
West Coast 3.1-19
Goals: Bolton 2, Baker, Lefau
Dominated the first 20 mins but wasted gettable chances (should have been 6 goals up) and then switched off in the last 10 mins.
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Always happens when you get too far ahead of yourselves and think it's gonna be an easy day out. Typical
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Danger signs. We can't get our hands on the ball.
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All 5 Eagles' goals from stoppages.
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Dusty goes to Reid in the middle and Reid waltzes away, Dusty jogs leave the change to Nank :banghead
Very poor by Dusty
Eagles in front
Last 15 mins under 12s stuff
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Should have had a shot Dusty.
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Shai goals
We get the lead back
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We switched the play to Bolton 40 out on the boundary. Gets it! Goal! :gotigers
3 to Bolton who puts us back in front.
Rich 5.3-33
WCE 5.1-31
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Dustin is a defensive liability
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Dusty’s lack of defensive effort never looked so bad as it does this year
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Protect the defensive side of the contest Tiges :scream. How hard is it to play the old front and square?!
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Yet again Dusty doesn't chase just jogs along
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That Eagles goal resulted from allowing them to get out the front of the contest on our HF line. Schoolboy stuff.
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Another soft goal due to zero defensive pressure
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Yet again Dusty doesn't chase just jogs along
He’s never chased well but gotta admit he does look checked out
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Short subbed out
Ankle
Calf
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Another one to the Eaglea
We are in massive strife now
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I don’t care about anything else other than watching McC, Sonsie and brown
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What the hell is going on with this team right now? Like Jekyll and Hyde
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Pickett misses a sitter
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Marlion misses another gettable one.
34 - 43
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Dusty’s man just runs hard forward from every stoppage. He’s a liability on-ball these days.
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Hugo misses a sitter
After a great pass from McAuliffe
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Dusty hands off to McAuliffe who finds Hugo 35 out. Yet another gettable shot missed :banghead.
35 - 43
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We miss 2 sitters
They goal
So many players have switched off
I might as well too
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You get what you deserve when you keep missing easy goals.
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How was that not a free to Kosi
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Young is a fair dinkum spud
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Tylwr Young should be embarrassed by that "effort"
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That last play sums us up today. We kick a point then from the Eagles kick-in we allow the ball to get easily over the back and the Eagles run into open goal. Embarrassing schoolboy stuff :facepalm.
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Sonsie goals
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Kosi is perhaps the worst mark of the footy I've seen at AFL level.
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Scrappy but we manufacture a goal. Can thank Mansell bringing the ball to ground against McGovern and then the second effort gets the ball to Lefau who passes to Sonsie = Goal! :gotigers
Rich 6.7-43
WCE 9.1-55
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Well done MRJ
That was brilliant
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Positive. Rioli showing a lot of
Improvement
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Finally we kick a simple goal. Maurice bursts away from the stoppage and nails it from 30 :gotigers
Rich 7.7-49
WCE 9.1-55
Not much defence today from either side.
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Young is a fair dinkum spud
Yep, he's VFL standard
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Young is so bad 1 on 1. Takes his eye off the ball, loses it and just gets shoved off the drop of the ball. He isn’t afl standard
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Another Pickett turnover. How's he getting a game seriously
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Young is having a total SHOCKER. AS BAD AS IT GETS
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How do you allow an opposition mid to run out of the middle all the way to the 50 with no Tiger in front of him? :banghead
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Another Pickett turnover. How's he getting a game seriously
Well considering our injury list it pretty obvious.
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I knew we were bad, I didn’t think we were this bad.
Defence is just in shambles
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What the hell is going on with this team right now? Like Jekyll and Hyde
Chris Hyde was a serviceable battler but I don't know who Jekyll is :rollin
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Another Pickett turnover and goal.
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Imagine have WCE kick 11 goals in a half. Disgraceful defensive work
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We work so hard to get back in the game and we again give up soft easy goals
There are bloes who should be in the VFl but due to our injuries have to play
What a shambles
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Young doesn’t have any competitiveness in him. Couldn’t play goal defence in a netball team!
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My God, our Captain just punched a ball back into the play instead on conceding a behind
Great leadership :banghead
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I'd plonk Young at FF and se d Kosi down back, can't do any worse
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Hard to watch. Just chuck sonsie and mcc in the guts the whole game, we will probably lose this anyway
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Kosi can't even take an uncontested mark overhead.
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Kosi can't even take an uncontested mark overhead.
If Balta isn't still right to come back then Samson has to come in next game. He'll have his brainfrade moments but at least he can hold a mark.
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Eagles got a standing ovation at the end of that quarter.
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Half-time
Richmond 4.3 7.7-49
West Coast 3.1 11.2-68
Goals: Bolton 3, Baker, Lefau, M.Rioli, Sonsie.
You know you're play really bad when the Eagles have an 8 goal quarter against ya :help.
3.6 to 11.1 since the midway mark of the 1st qtr :help.
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We just don’t have the cattle anymore.
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Kelly is the one we have to stop.. FFS he's playing with us, doing as he pleases . If Dusty can't influence the game anymore in the middle he just have to give it up.. looks so slow now. Everyone bangs on fridge Is slow but f he is lightning compared to dusty now. Dusty is really way off ATM. Has little impact these days
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Lmao @ Young getting toweled up by Dennis Waterman....and would it kill Nank to actually tap it to his own mids? :banghead
...also no surprise Petrucelli's having a blinder with Ralphshyte as his opponent... :shh
...and ffs keep Pickett the stuff away from the backline..... :banghead :banghead
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Yze has a tough job trying to coach this mob. Dumb players in critical positions like Kosi and Young. Young players that aren’t there yet or just aren’t even good enough like Dow. Just wanna see a big half from sonsie and mcc
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Missing Taranto big time in the middle
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We just don’t have the cattle anymore.
True but at least doing the defensive basics doesn't require talent. Everyone selfishly getting sucked into the honeypot and not having anyone protecting the defensive side of stoppages/contests is unforgivable.
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Yze has a tough job trying to coach this mob. Dumb players in critical positions like Kosi and Young. Young players that aren’t there yet or just aren’t even good enough like Dow. Just wanna see a big half from sonsie and mcc
At least Dow is having a dip, he is what he is but he is trying his best. Not our worst by far.
Time to put dan Rioli in the middle
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The stoppages and cb's are an unmitigated disaster of complete disorganisation and half arsed defending - comically bad ... :banghead
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Kelly is the one we have to stop.. FFS he's playing with us, doing as he pleases .
Easy for him when his Tiger opponent stands on the outside and allows Kelly to run inboard into the corridor and forward unopposed.
The lack of basic defensive efforts today has been embarrassing. That first half was as bad as the first half in the Gold Coast game.
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stuff it - just lay back and think of the draft... :shh
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Lmao @ Young getting toweled up by Dennis Waterman....and would it kill Nank to actually tap it to his own mids? :banghead
...also no surprise Petrucelli's having a blinder with Ralphshyte as his opponent... :shh
...and ffs keep Pickett the stuff away from the backline..... :banghead :banghead
:lol Hugo was just moved to him.
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Yep I'm done for 2024
I thought we'd be better than this, this year. But as the injuries mount it is as clear as day we are not going to win many games...I'll put my hand up and say I got it wrong, no new coach bounce for us
So I will keep watching, going to games and just focus on how the kids go. No point in getting angry or frustrated
Might have to pay more attention to the under 18 comp this year
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Yze has a tough job trying to coach this mob. Dumb players in critical positions like Kosi and Young. Young players that aren’t there yet or just aren’t even good enough like Dow. Just wanna see a big half from sonsie and mcc
At least Dow is having a dip, he is what he is but he is trying his best. Not our worst by far.
Time to put dan Rioli in the middle
He’s just way too weak to match it with the big boys in the middle
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Oh dear Dusty just dropped the footy in the middle like a hot potato. :help
Almost our worst player at the moment. :help :help :help
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Hope Yze doesn't talk about being proud, unless we come back and win I guess. The effort of some players has stunk today.
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Nothing annoys me more than watching a key back get beaten over and over. What’s even worse is thinking he should get dropped but he can’t coz we have literally no one else
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Nothing annoys me more than watching a key back get beaten over and over. What’s even worse is thinking he should get dropped but he can’t coz we have literally no one else
Yrp
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Who’s on Waterman?
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This will be the worst loss since 2016.
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Young js struggling because he's not only not strong enough the ball is getting delivered without any pressure on the ball carrier whatsoever. Reminds me when Fraser Gehrig kicked 10 against us in 2006. :help
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Witches hats. Tigers just ballwatching.
Waterman ran past 3 Tigers to go after the ball. We've just given up. Pathetic!
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Miller and Young watch defenders not the footy. There is zero attack on the ball when it’s in the air and they have best position.
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Just getting smashed out of the middle. Good learning curve for MCC who hasn’t been anywhere near it so far. We just don’t have the midfield power with Taranto out
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Hope Yze doesn't talk about being proud, unless we come back and win I guess. The effort of some players has stunk today.
We are not going to win
And there is absolutely nothing to be proud of today
Yes the injury list is long but that’s no excuse for not applying pressure, standing around watching your opponents get soft and cheap possessions
Massive opportunity for some of our young blokes today and they seem to be following the lead of our leaders in going AWOL
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Who’s on Waterman?
It was Young now it's Miller
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They’ve given up out there, no structure. Would like to see a good old fashioned spray from yze. I actually feel for yze having to try and coach this rabble. He would know that this list needs 3 years before it can compete again
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Wow we are down in 30 in contested possessions
That says everything we need to know about today's game
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Finally got it forward this quarter. Dusty goal.
Rich 8.7-55
WCE 15.6-96
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The only thing Richmond like today is the free kick count
12 to 4 in the Eagles favour with 3 minutes to go
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McCauliffe showing some aggression with the tackle on Reid, good to see. Should’ve got a free
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Wow we are down in 30 in contested possessions
That says everything we need to know about today's game
Yep. One of the poorest and softest efforts in a while given the opposition's record.
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If anyone was in any doubt about what we need to do as a club this year, today has confirmed it.
Call it whatever name you wish, the success of the next 10 years ensures that we get a top 4 pick. With Gibcus and Clarke now ACL. We cannot accept anything less than a top 4 pick. We need our next Cotch / Dusty to come in. We will bank on some luck nailing other first rounders but unless we want to pay 1.5 mil a year to get in a brownlow type player. We need a top 4 pick.
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If anyone was in any doubt about what we need to do as a club this year, today has confirmed it.
Call it whatever name you wish, the success of the next 10 years ensures that we get a top 4 pick. With Gibcus and Clarke now ACL. We cannot accept anything less than a top 4 pick. We need our next Cotch / Dusty to come in. We will bank on some luck nailing other first rounders but unless we want to pay 1.5 mil a year to get in a brownlow type player. We need a top 4 pick.
We need multiple top 10 picks really, which could very well happen this year. Thing is, they will take 5 years to develop. So we are in for some pain, may as well get it started rather than being delusional about where we are at as a club
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3/4 time
Richmond 4.3 7.7 8.8-56
West Coast 3.1 11.2 15.8-98
Goals: Bolton 3, Baker, Lefau, M.Rioli, Sonsie, Martin
:help
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If anyone was in any doubt about what we need to do as a club this year, today has confirmed it.
Call it whatever name you wish, the success of the next 10 years ensures that we get a top 4 pick. With Gibcus and Clarke now ACL. We cannot accept anything less than a top 4 pick. We need our next Cotch / Dusty to come in. We will bank on some luck nailing other first rounders but unless we want to pay 1.5 mil a year to get in a brownlow type player. We need a top 4 pick.
We need multiple top 10 picks really, which could very well happen this year. Thing is, they will take 5 years to develop. So we are in for some pain, may as well get it started rather than being delusional about where we are at as a club
Yep. Hit the draft and accept we won't be seeing finals again until the 2030s.
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Lefau goal.
Rich 9.8-62
WCE 15.8-98
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Lefau has been a small positive today
Let's be honest there hasn't been many
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Dow JOGGINF ALONG SIDE REID. I’m so sick of Dow. pee weak
If he had poor skills, fine you can work on that.
Has no ticker and that you can’t train into someone
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Our woeful tackling technique and "efforts" another shocker on display today :facepalm.
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lmao Mansell you spud.... :joker
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Lefau gets his 3rd
Well done young man
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Yeah good on you lefau well done
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Lefau kicks his 3rd. As WP said, a rare positive on a shocking day.
Rich 10.9-69
WCE 16.11-107
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Geez we've been a thick side today on top of being soft. Ball 20m out and we fumble and tap the ball backwards 40m, miss multiple tackles and allow the opposition to clear :facepalm.
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Pickett continuing his selfish ways today :banghead
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Major list overhaul required. Expect it to happen over 2-3 years though. Need a KPD and a KPF and midfield power… so yeah we are in strife.
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Just have to keep playing the kids
Blood whoever we have fit and see what they have to offer
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Would like to see some leadership though. Dusty seemed to be communicating well with the fwds but it rarely got down theee. Nank needs to get them all together after this
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Not sure what everyone expected. It's why I laugh when some on here applaud the stupid decision to get hopper.
That has set us back even further.
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Final Score
Richmond 4.3 7.7 8.8 10.10-70
West Coast 3.1 11.2 15.8 16.13-109
Goals: Bolton 3, Lefau 3, Baker, M.Rioli, Sonsie, Martin
Embarrassing!
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Embarrassing yes, but not sure what people expected. Virtually our 2s out there today.
Good time for the bye.
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Embarrassing yes, but not sure what people expected. Virtually our 2s out there today.
Good time for the bye.
Don't think expecting players to put in the effort around the basics is asking to much
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Mids got smashed all day. Hard to defend that but we were pathetic in defense as well. Worst performance for the year and only a few players to walk off the ground with a pass. Hope we have someone back next game- anyone will do but not that spud Cumberland :shh
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Embarrassing yes, but not sure what people expected. Virtually our 2s out there today.
Good time for the bye.
FFV, I at least expected a basic defensive effort even if we lost.
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Embarrassing yes, but not sure what people expected. Virtually our 2s out there today.
Good time for the bye.
FFV, I at least expected a basic defensive effort even if we lost.
Wouldn't be blaming our defence too much. Midfield smashed all day, the ball was coming in however they liked. Very difficult day to be a defender. Having said that, not Young's best day.
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Pickett continuing his selfish ways today :banghead
Indeed- yes the game was well over but to not kick it to Campbell in the back pocket late in the game sends bad messages to young players. He ended up kicking to the wrong hard option and watched the ball sail back into the defensive half, not good enough. Do the basics its not that difficult.
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Mids got smashed all day. Hard to defend that but we were pathetic in defense as well. Worst performance for the year and only a few players to walk off the ground with a pass. Hope we have someone back next game- anyone will do but not that spud Cumberland :shh
Well he doesn't need the money as he's living rent free in your head - and very spacious accommodation it is too.... :shh :shh
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Mids got smashed all day. Hard to defend that but we were pathetic in defense as well. Worst performance for the year and only a few players to walk off the ground with a pass. Hope we have someone back next game- anyone will do but not that spud Cumberland :shh
Well he doesn't need the money as he's living rent free in your head - and very spacious accommodation it is too.... :shh :shh
Just getting in before you mention him as an inclusion.
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One of the best in the 2 ‘s lol
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Yeah but we can't have poor body language from someone whose surname isn't Richardson or Riewoldt or anyone undermining our brilliant defensive structures that've been working so well..... :shh
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Mids got smashed all day. Hard to defend that but we were pathetic in defense as well. Worst performance for the year and only a few players to walk off the ground with a pass. Hope we have someone back next game- anyone will do but not that spud Cumberland :shh
Well he doesn't need the money as he's living rent free in your head - and very spacious accommodation it is too.... :shh :shh
Just getting in before you mention him as an inclusion.
Stink to assessing HRS
When you get that right, move onto the rest of the list
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One of the best in the 2 ‘s lol
Cumberland? :lol
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#rentfree #dopelord :shh
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Enough with feud :banghead
We get you don't like one another but enough with bringing your feud onto the forum in what seems like every 2nd thread.
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I'm not the one potting a reserves player in the seniors match day thread where said seniors just got belted by the worst team in the comp. #baitingmuch? :shh
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Wondering what everyone's take on the coaching by Yze in this game. I was there and not many pegs seemed to shuffled from what I could tell.
Young and miller both were being well beaten by opponents into the third and waterman had the ball on a string.....surely a few switcheroos or plan change was in order?
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Wondering what everyone's take on the coaching by Yze in this game. I was there and not many pegs seemed to shuffled from what I could tell.
Young and miller both were being well beaten by opponents into the third and waterman had the ball on a string.....surely a few switcheroos or plan change was in order?
I don't know how you can blame the defence at times we lost it in the middle ball kept on coming back add to that the turnovers by the same senior players.
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Wondering what everyone's take on the coaching by Yze in this game. I was there and not many pegs seemed to shuffled from what I could tell.
Young and miller both were being well beaten by opponents into the third and waterman had the ball on a string.....surely a few switcheroos or plan change was in order?
I don't know how you can blame the defence at times we lost it in the middle ball kept on coming back add to that the turnovers by the same senior players.
..and there were plenty of moves he could've made in the guts too...Pickett, both Riolis , Sonsie all could've at least attended a few centre bounces...even Lefau......looked like Baker was on Reid for most of the game which was a ludicrous match up..... :propeller
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I honestly thought Lefau was terrific. 3.2 in his 4th game is brilliant.
Even though we got the fast start , to use an analogy , we were a house of cards .
Tim Kelly and Elliot Yeo must of thought Christmas had come early lining up on Dow and Mcaufliffe
I’m glad it wasn’t a total capitulation because this had 10 goal loss written all over it in the third quarter.
We were never ever going to win this once we lost Ross and TT during the week.
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Both riolis should have been put in the guts after half time.. poor coaching . Very poor
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Major list overhaul required. Expect it to happen over 2-3 years though. Need a KPD and a KPF and midfield power… so yeah we are in strife.
YOUNG is soft and poos himself under pressure. All those thinking Grimes can retire are kidding themselves
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Young is crap but Grimes can barely move anymore...send Kosi back and end the Balta forward farce when he returns...grab El Nour in the msd or even Brindley....hell Nankervis is a better KPD option than most of our current regulars - certainly a better KPD than he is a ruckman these days.... :shh
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Major list overhaul required. Expect it to happen over 2-3 years though. Need a KPD and a KPF and midfield power… so yeah we are in strife.
YOUNG is soft and poos himself under pressure. All those thinking Grimes can retire are kidding themselves
I don’t see what you’re saying ? Whether grimes is in the team or not we are a bottom 4 team..
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I didn't see a minute due to a social crisis but I'm glad to be honest
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When I boarded my flight, the score was 27-1 with under 2mins to play in the first. I’m not sure what’s more shocking, the fact that we ended up being thumped or how we somehow managed to give up not 1, not 2 but 3! goals in red time of Q1. Looks like we never recovered from there.
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Anyway the loss is what it is. Will be a crap few seasons but dynasties always come at a cost.
How did the cubs go? Sonsie, Mcaulife, Brown, MRJ??
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The weekly "proud of our players" made a brief appearance in today's presser
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1531000/round-5-yze-post-match?videoId=1531000&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1713087927001
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lmao - clearly a verbal tick.... must be his version of "oh look they're a bloody good side"..... :shh
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@mattricho0 has given his honest assessment following Richmond's heavy defeat to West Coast today.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/3AWisfootball/status/1779453317988446468
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lmao - clearly a verbal tick.... must be his version of "oh look they're a bloody good side"..... :shh
Along with:-
“That’s not us”
“We lost our way for a time in that xxx qtr”
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Geez where do ya begin.
Established blokes who i thought were poor.
Young, McIntosh, Koschitzke, Mansell, M Rioli, Pickett. Martin.
People are gunna defend Graham and Miller but im throwing them both in although they were not the worst.
Graham He tried but imo its in games like these where you need him to actually lead from the front and take the game by the scruff of the neck. Unfortunately he was part of a midfield that got absolutely belted and all we got was more of the same old stuff from him.
Miller well just mad with his lack of one v one presence Look at their opposition, Waterman when was his last good game same goes for Darling Jack Williams is a baby.
Some of the younger players need to put their hand up as well cannot just keep on forgiving poor performances just because they are youngish. Not saying we drop any of them just noting they had poor games or quite games.
Sonsie, McAuliffe, Brown, Campbell, Ralphsmith, Dow. M Rioli. Personally the latter three i would drop.Sonsie needs to step up next game or he will also be in the gun.
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Miller and Young watch defenders not the footy. There is zero attack on the ball when it’s in the air and they have best position.
This
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Anyway the loss is what it is. Will be a crap few seasons but dynasties always come at a cost.
How did the cubs go? Sonsie, Mcaulife, Brown, MRJ??
We've been crap plenty of times before, but without the flags, so, at least there is something to show for it this time.
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Miller and Young watch defenders not the footy. There is zero attack on the ball when it’s in the air and they have best position.
This
If they are too aggressive they giveaway a free kick, I have given up complaining about the umpires but can understand our players confusion
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No one here likes seeing us lose, but I don’t understand what people expect. Outside of the injuries ( some of them may be a result of poor management but some are certainly bad luck ) we are a team that’s enjoyed a highly successful, the most successful period you could ask for. The result of that is bad draft picks which I feel we did as best we could with and now we have a bunch of sub 22-23 year olds who need developing and there’s no certainty they will be any good anyway because our highest pick was gibcus and he has been a catastrophe.
People seem to think McCauliffe will be our saviour but he slipped to pick 40 for a reason, hopefully
He can be a really solid player.
There’s no avoiding the bottom out that comes with a dynasty imo. Geelong may be the exception but they also recruited one of the best mids and forwards, so that helps.
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No one here likes seeing us lose, but I don’t understand what people expect. Outside of the injuries ( some of them may be a result of poor management but some are certainly bad luck ) we are a team that’s enjoyed a highly successful, the most successful period you could ask for. The result of that is bad draft picks which I feel we did as best we could with and now we have a bunch of sub 22-23 year olds who need developing and there’s no certainty they will be any good anyway because our highest pick was gibcus and he has been a catastrophe.
People seem to think McCauliffe will be our saviour but he slipped to pick 40 for a reason, hopefully
He can be a really solid player.
There’s no avoiding the bottom out that comes with a dynasty imo. Geelong may be the exception but they also recruited one of the best mids and forwards, so that helps.
Agree
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No one here likes seeing us lose, but I don’t understand what people expect. Outside of the injuries ( some of them may be a result of poor management but some are certainly bad luck ) we are a team that’s enjoyed a highly successful, the most successful period you could ask for. The result of that is bad draft picks which I feel we did as best we could with and now we have a bunch of sub 22-23 year olds who need developing and there’s no certainty they will be any good anyway because our highest pick was gibcus and he has been a catastrophe.
People seem to think McCauliffe will be our saviour but he slipped to pick 40 for a reason, hopefully
He can be a really solid player.
There’s no avoiding the bottom out that comes with a dynasty imo. Geelong may be the exception but they also recruited one of the best mids and forwards, so that helps.
Which mid did geelong recruit. Danger? He is older than Dusty. Cameron is Lynchs age. IMO they are getting more out of their senior players than we have post 2020.
5 picks in 2021 and then throwing away 2 first rounds meant we pushed our club further into medicority.
We may have completely botched this up even if Brown doesnt come up. He is our best chance for a solid KPD.
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We'll need more than just McAuliffe to save our future .....ideally after the next couple of drafts he'll be our third or fourth best young mid and if that ends up being the case we'll be laughing...just need our recruiters to stop being cute and trying to outsmart every other club on draft night reaching and trying to find that "hidden gun" that was right under everyone's noses...... :shh
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No one here likes seeing us lose, but I don’t understand what people expect. Outside of the injuries ( some of them may be a result of poor management but some are certainly bad luck ) we are a team that’s enjoyed a highly successful, the most successful period you could ask for. The result of that is bad draft picks which I feel we did as best we could with and now we have a bunch of sub 22-23 year olds who need developing and there’s no certainty they will be any good anyway because our highest pick was gibcus and he has been a catastrophe.
People seem to think McCauliffe will be our saviour but he slipped to pick 40 for a reason, hopefully
He can be a really solid player.
There’s no avoiding the bottom out that comes with a dynasty imo. Geelong may be the exception but they also recruited one of the best mids and forwards, so that helps.
Which mid did geelong recruit. Danger? He is older than Dusty. Cameron is Lynchs age. IMO they are getting more out of their senior players than we have post 2020.
5 picks in 2021 and then throwing away 2 first rounds meant we pushed our club further into medicority.
We may have completely botched this up even if Brown doesnt come up. He is our best chance for a solid KPD.
Yes but when they recruited them they were in their prime and Geelongs list was getting on, so it helped them delay the inevitable rebuild.
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AFL Report Card: Round 5
Catherine Healey, Max Laughton, Jack Jovanovski and Courtney Walsh
Foxsports
15 April 2024
RICHMOND
Richmond are down and on Sunday, were out for a duck as their injury list continues to grow. Coach Adem Yze has conceded the Tigers were inconsistent and at times unrecognisable in the loss to West Coast. They managed just 40 inside 50s – including a shock 17-1 count against them in the third term. And despite winning the hitout count +25, the Tigers were well-beaten through the middle -23 in clearances. The Tigers won the ball out of the middle just eight times on Sunday – but still managed to take 17 marks inside 50.
In the votes
Liam Baker made a welcome return to be his side’s leading ball winner – 25 touches, five clearances and a goal. Nick Vlastuin took a mark of the year contender before finishing with 23 disposals and eight marks. Jack Graham put his head down to make eight tackles while Toby Nankervis won 37 hitouts to go with his six tackles. Youngster Mykelti Lefau also showed promise in just his third game with three goals.
Room for improvement
The Richmond forward line is undermanned, with third gamer Mykelti Lefau leading the way with three goals. But aside from he and Shai Bolton, there was little to cheer about in attack. Dustin Martin spent a lot of time in attack but managed just one goal. Maurice Rioli Jnr had a few moments to forget including a brain snap where he marked in the goalsquare and opted to play on, kicking it into the man on the mark Alex Witherden. The Richmond mids were beaten up after quarter time in worrying signs.
Grade
F
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-round-5-report-card-highlights-grades-analysis-every-club-reviewed-best-and-worst-players-stats-latest-news/news-story/75a16ce1714cae6fe1d36256cef70868
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WHAT THEY GOT RIGHT AND WRONG: EACH CLUB’S WINS AND WOES FROM ROUND 5
Andrew Slevison
SEN
16 April 2024
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What they got right
Started very well
Richmond looked like they were set to inflict more pain on West Coast with the way the team started in Perth.
The Tigers kicked the first four goals inside 16 minutes before inexplicably trading places with the Eagles.
From a positivity point of view, that was about it, apart from the performance of a developing forward in just his fourth game.
Lefau shone
Mykelti Lefau was a shining light for the Tigers.
The New Zealander finished with three goals (two behinds) and could have easily booted five. He took eight marks and had six score involvements in an accomplished showing.
His pressure at ground level was also stellar, laying five tackles including three inside 50. Some of his ‘don’t argues’ were frightening.
Lefau did all of this against quality key defenders in Jeremy McGovern and Tom Barrass in a performance that is certain to fill him with confidence.
What they got wrong
Yet more lapses
On numerous occasions already this season, the Tigers have given up runs of goals to their opposition.
From the 25-minute mark of the first quarter to the five-minute mark of the second, they conceded five goals. Then from the 13-minute mark of the second to the 22nd-minute mark they conceded four on the trot.
It got worse. The Eagles helped themselves to six straight majors from late in the second and through the third.
These lapses are killing Adem Yze’s side, but it’s somewhat to be expected from a team that is missing nine of their best 22 and had an average games played of 86 (less than West Coast’s 92.8 ).
Midfield copped a shellacking
It’s going to happen when three of your best midfielders (Tim Taranto, Dion Prestia and Jacob Hopper) are absent, but the Tigers copped an almighty shellacking in the middle.
The Tigers lost clearances 48-25, which is comprehensive, were beaten 33-17 in stoppage clearances and 15-8 in centre clearances.
Contested possessions were even worse with the Eagles prevailing 144-106.
Thomson Dow was eviscerated by Elliot Yeo in close, while Jack Graham and Liam Baker battled hard but were no match for Tim Kelly and Harley Reid.
Shai Bolton can hold his head high with 21 touches, five clearances and three goals.
In his second AFL game, Kane McAuliffe had a few opportunities in at centre bounce which hopefully hold him in good stead.
Conceded a career day to Waterman
Taking nothing away from Jake Waterman, but the Richmond defence allowed him a career day.
Granted there was plenty of quality ball coming inside 50 but prior to Sunday, Waterman’s career-best goal haul had been four.
He helped himself to 6.2 while also pulling in a career-best marks haul of 13, including a remarkable eight contested.
Ben Miller and Tylar Young had eight contested defensive one on ones, and won just two between them. Nathan Broad lost two of three.
Allowed the Eagles to dictate
West Coast poured on their best first-half score since 2021 and kicked over 100 points for the first time since Round 2 last year.
They did that by avalanching the ball inside 50 on 61 occasions to Richmond’s 40.
The Tigers looked tired, as Yze alluded to, but they were pretty much pedestrian after quarter-time.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/15/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-each-clubs-wins-and-woes-from-round-5/
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Coaches' votes (Yze & Simpson)
West Coast v Richmond
10 Elliot Yeo (WCE)
8 Jake Waterman (WCE)
6 Tim Kelly (WCE)
4 Harley Reid (WCE)
1 Shai Bolton (RICH)
1 Liam Duggan (WCE)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1110139/coaches-votes-r5-geelong-cats-star-jeremy-cameron-continues-climb-among-six-perfect-10s