One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on May 19, 2024, 05:50:34 PM
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Let’s go back to round 15 , 2011 - it was Dimma’s 37th game as senior coach.
Richmond played Carlton and we got belted by 103 points .
That Richmond team contained
Cotchin
Riewoldt
Rance
Martin
Edwards
Grigg
Houlli
It also contained players who a few years later played in September for us
Deledio
Newman
Griffiths
King
Vickery
Yze needs time and a major change in luck when it come to injuries which has been nothing short of catastrophic. He also access to elite talent via the draft . He needs to move on the dead wood , some of which have multiple premiership medallions . There isn’t a coach in the AFL who could guide this team to victory at the moment.
How is he supposed to coach when there is no continuity at selection.
This year should come with an asterisk **
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Agreed completely. Should be getting more from our “leaders” but our real on field leaders are all out in lynch, Taranto and baker. Short vice captain says it all.
I’m really high on yze and I’m excited to see what changes we make this off season. Need to trade/cut 5-6 players and get 4 top 20 picks.
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Absolutely right. The "nay-sayers" on these forums have very short memories.
Yeah, its tough to watch, but take a little out of someone's development each game.
Things can turn around very quickly...read Sydney game in 2016.
We need to nail the next 2-3 drafts & smart trades.
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I barrack for Richmond. I have barracked for Richmond since 1969. I will always barrack for Richmond. You have to be pretty mentally tough to barrack for Richmond. I've had ups & downs barracking for Richmond, that's football for ya!
I've had the time of my life barracking for Richmond. If you aren't up to it then just go away ...
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Let’s go back to round 15 , 2011 - it was Dimma’s 37th game as senior coach.
Richmond played Carlton and we got belted by 103 points .
That Richmond team contained
Cotchin
Riewoldt
Rance
Martin
Edwards
Grigg
Houlli
It also contained players who a few years later played in September for us
Deledio
Newman
Griffiths
King
Vickery
Yze needs time and a major change in luck when it come to injuries which has been nothing short of catastrophic. He also access to elite talent via the draft . He needs to move on the dead wood , some of which have multiple premiership medallions . There isn’t a coach in the AFL who could guide this team to victory at the moment.
How is he supposed to coach when there is no continuity at selection.
This year should come with an asterisk **
Well said mat. :thumbsup
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I've barracked for Richmond since 1966, so there's nothing new under the sun results-wise. Although I do note that Melbourne Storm outscored Richmond, so maybe that's new.
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I've been supporting Richmond since 1972
Member for 43 years
I'll also support them, wiil always be a member. The Club has given me so much. I've seen the highest of highs and been through the years of the being in footy wilderness... wouldn't change it
But it's also OK to be critical of the Club.
For me at the moment it's not the results that are gnawing at me it is the lack of effort. It is beyond disappointing. I haven't questioned the effort for a very long time...
BTW great post mat :clapping
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I've been supporting Richmond since 1972
Member for 43 years
I'll also support them, wiil always be a member. The Club has given me so much. I've seen the highest of highs and been through the years of the being in footy wilderness... wouldn't change it
But it's also OK to be critical of the Club.
For me at the moment it's not the results that are gnawing at me it is the lack of effort. It is beyond disappointing. I haven't questioned the effort for a very long time...
BTW great post mat :clapping
“It’s the lack of effort.”
Couldn’t agree more. Pressure, tackling and running hard doesn’t take skill or a game plan to do.
Increase the pressure, tackling and hard running and we don’t lose by that amount.
I question whether our “11 Premiership” players, excluding Vlastuin and Rioli, are leading by example?
Our cubs need matches, keep blooding them.
Our “Premiership Players” need to not accept the past two weeks.
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I've barracked for Richmond since 1966, so there's nothing new under the sun results-wise. Although I do note that Melbourne Storm outscored Richmond, so maybe that's new.
:thumbsup
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There is a lot of commentary around the senior group being at fault. I see it a little different. To me the young players are actually the problem. Banks, Dow, Campbell, Sonsie, Young and Brown. They just don't pressure the opposition and the stat's don't lie. So you can probably excuse the senior players for giving up under the injury circumstances. We cannot always expect senior players to break their backs every week if the next generation coming through thinks it's OK to cruise and play soft.. Yes the senior group needs to maintain standards, but these kids have to lift...
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Our two best kicks are Brown & Sonsie but they're both soft as butter.....though I recall Sonsie being a lot tougher at the end of '22 -especially in the EF- before the injury compared to now so dunno what's happened there.....the injuries to Gibcus have been the real killer and that makes the situation seem even worse...KMac2 gives me hope though and MRJ was finally starting to show some of his old man's traits some of us always knew he had....still think Ryan can become a very good ruckman....next two draft & trade periods will be huge sliding doors moments (in the true sense of the term, not the illiterate way the Purple Parrot misuses it) :shh
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Top 4 or bottom 4, anything in between is a literal waste of time.
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Top 4 or bottom 4, anything in between is a literal waste of time.
Yeah that's it in a nutshell lol.
And we were never a top 4 chance this year so...may as well finish as low as we can and keep blooding kids with whatever mature players we have left.
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I've been supporting Richmond since 1972
Member for 43 years
I'll also support them, wiil always be a member. The Club has given me so much. I've seen the highest of highs and been through the years of the being in footy wilderness... wouldn't change it
But it's also OK to be critical of the Club.
For me at the moment it's not the results that are gnawing at me it is the lack of effort. It is beyond disappointing. I haven't questioned the effort for a very long time...
BTW great post mat :clapping
I totally agree with you. It is okay to criticise the club. Whilst there are a variety of views on this site it is clear that everyone on this site wants the club to succeed and can't stand the club being in the predicament it is in.
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I've been supporting Richmond since 1972
Member for 43 years
I'll also support them, wiil always be a member. The Club has given me so much. I've seen the highest of highs and been through the years of the being in footy wilderness... wouldn't change it
But it's also OK to be critical of the Club.
For me at the moment it's not the results that are gnawing at me it is the lack of effort. It is beyond disappointing. I haven't questioned the effort for a very long time...
BTW great post mat :clapping
“It’s the lack of effort.”
Couldn’t agree more. Pressure, tackling and running hard doesn’t take skill or a game plan to do.
Increase the pressure, tackling and hard running and we don’t lose by that amount.
I question whether our “11 Premiership” players, excluding Vlastuin and Rioli, are leading by example?
Our cubs need matches, keep blooding them.
Our “Premiership Players” need to not accept the past two weeks.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
There needs to be pride in the jumper and a fight and fight to win attitude.
There's no excuses for the lack of effort and utter capitulation.
I wasn't expecting much this year but the sort of effort is unacceptable by any Richmond player
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Nah. Effort and “pride” gets you 12th. Middling gets you St Kilda. No thanks.
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Agree, all or nothing , no good doing a Wallace and winning useless games and finishing mid range, play the kids who deserve it with the experienced players and find out who is worth keeping and who’s getting a thank you for your service.
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Obviously the lower we finish the better but you gotta at least go down swinging and not just roll over & play dead...or netball... :shh
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Stuff it all.
Don’t care how we go down swinging, won’t be by design anyway….
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REASSESSING YOUR AFL CLUB’S EXPECTATIONS AFTER 10 ROUNDS
Andrew Slevison
SEN
23 May 2024
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What we thought: Not too much was expected from the Tigers in Adem Yze’s first year, especially after losing veterans Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt. Nobody was tipping them for finals, but some had them sitting around 10th to 12th which seemed reasonable given the amount of quality players still on the list.
What we think now: It’s been a disaster of late with a lot of those quality players struck down by injury which has ravaged the team. That has negatively impacted the club’s results. It appears now as though the Tigers will have to settle for a bottom four position with Yze now able to provide opportunities for the youth. It’s a blessing in disguise for Richmond who should bottom out this year so they can stock up at the draft. It could be a tough watch.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/22/reassessing-your-afl-clubs-expectations-after-10-rounds/