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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yandb on July 08, 2024, 06:40:34 PM
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If we are going to load up in this years draft we will have to shed 7/8 players.
2 of these will be due to picking up 2 extra players in the mid season draft.
Possible retirees Grimes, Martin, Naismith and Prestia.
Possible trades Rioli, Dow, Baker, Ralph Smith and Graham
Possible delistings Cumberland Coulthard.
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Add KMac to the retire/delist pile. Ditto Colina.
Trade Short. Graham delist or trade
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We’ve got 21 players currently due to come out of contract at seasons end. Plentyyyyyy of scope for an overhaul.
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Yze last night specifically named Lynch and Prestia as really important going forward.
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Yze last night specifically named Lynch and Prestia as really important going forward.
Yes they are basically the spine of our rehab group. Irreplaceable!
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From our list changes 2025 thread:
Only real changes for me are additions of Naismith and Cumberland.
If the right deal for Lynch comes we should trade him. Pay some of his salary to get a good pick for him.
Baker & Rioli I would keep. Would be happy with either as captain.
Short, Graham, trade.
Pickett get to 100.
Retire Grimes, Prestia, KMac.
Dusty???? Who knows.
Also ready to cut Dow, not sold on the likes of Banks, Coulthard, Trezise etc.
Still feel the same about Lynch if anyone wanted to take him for 2025 pushing for a flag. Just ice him for the rest of 2024 so he's not injured again.
Baker and Rioli I would still keep if they're prepared to stay.
Still happy to trade Short & Graham. Add Bolton to that list given he has currency, is contracted, and we hold the cards. I don't see him as a leader for a rebuild.
Pickett can be de-listed although I do think it's worth getting him to 100 games - should never burn the potential F/S bridge on any player IMO.
Still believe we should retire Grimes & Prestia. They are hopelessly unable to stay on the park. Add Naismith to this list obviously. KMac I think should be de-listed or retired as much as I like the bloke it's time to move on.
Dusty IMO I would only keep him if he's being paid a modest amount and shows some motivation but IMO he looks disinterested and not worth anything more than $400-600k absolute max.
Still happy to cut Dow, Banks, Coulthard and probably Trezise. Probably Cumberland also. Haven't seen enough to warrant keeping them or playing them but we may as well give them a crack this year and see how they go.
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It’s not looking good for Cumberland.
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Get Lynch to 100 next year
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Yze last night specifically named Lynch and Prestia as really important going forward.
Yes they are basically the spine of our rehab group. Irreplaceable!
This is definitely some of your finest work Willy :lol
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Get Lynch to 100 next year
List his as tactical sub but don't sub him on
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Out duds and 30 plus year olds with nothing left to offer.. Sheesh there will hardly be anyone left.
If we are serious about rebuild then i reckon 10 is a minimum.
Hoping we are not just thinking ND. Lots of ways to value add. Target the best state leaguers, look at f/a and trades.
Trades
Baker - reckon he is as good as Gone. Should be a pretty handy pick coming our way.
Graham - for a pack of crispy cremes. I am partial to crispy cremes. Don't think we would get a lot for him tbh.
Short - pick 11110000 just want him gone. Unfortunately he is contracted for god knows how many more years. Only way to get rid of him give him away. Won't happen but one can hope.
Retire,
Martin i think he will give it away.
tap on the shoulder to retire gracefully.
McIntosh, Pickett, Grimes, Naismith.
Delist
Dow, Colina, Coulthard, Mansell, Cumberland.
Left in the gun needing significant improvement next year.
Ralphsmith, Sonsie, M Rioli, Clarke, Young, Green, Banks, Ryan and Kossie.
If Lynch wanted to go to another club for a last shot at a flag and it got us a real good pick then i think i would do it. Tom is not going to play in another premiership with us.
His experince and knowledge would be invaluable.
I think a club lacking a quality kpf who think they can win it would pay plenty for him. these are the dilemma's.
Any way i think 10 out is realistic given the list where we are at and the overall performances of those going.
Plenty of clubs have been known to cut deeper.
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Mansell is contracted. Another 2 years.
Agree otherwise I'm everything claw.
I'd have given Mansell 1 year at most as a bit of a mongrel that's about it.
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
Oh, I thought you signed off on it? Was told Blair Hartley rings you before deals are finalised
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
If he has a performance based contract for sfa it may not be so bad
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
If he has a performance based contract for sfa it may not be so bad
That does not alter the fact he has done sweet stuff all.
Given he has done so little i would have thought it prudent we actually draft another promising actual ruckman.
In all honesty does anyone see him as a kpf at afl level.
Cant jump lacks agility and speed lacks size strength and mongrel struggles to take marks at the level and has been utterly useless when the ball is on the ground.
When and if he ever improves these things and actually does something at afl level i will get of his case until then, well the facts are he has been bloody useless.
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Players that just have to go that are playing today
Graham, broad, short.
Would also trade Bolton and Hopper for some decent returns.
Kosi and Ryan are vfl players, no doubt about that.
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Graham has done some nice work
Kamdyn, Broad and Short M’eh
Balta is having a shocker , maybe injured ??
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Mansell is contracted. Another 2 years.
Agree otherwise I'm everything claw.
I'd have given Mansell 1 year at most as a bit of a mongrel that's about it.
Agree re mansell.At least he is having a go and is going alright atm. 2yr contract means he will be staying along with Short who still has three years to go.
I still think 10 outs is the minimum, more depending on trades. How we use the rookie list may also play a part.
My 10 outs to date.
Retire
Martin 32, McIntosh 31, Pickett 33, Grimes 33, Naismith 32, All out of contract. In fact every other vet we have is contracted bar Prestia.
It would still leave 30 yr olds in Prestia 2024, Nankervis 2026 , Lynch 2025 broad 2025 and Vlastuin 2026. with lots in the 23 thru 29 age bracket.
Delist
Dow, Coulthard, Cumberland and Colina. think they almost speak for themselves.
Nearly all the others out of contract will probably get one year at least.
Trade
Was not going to include trades but this one seems to be a cert.
Baker out of contract.
Trades that are being spoken about right or wrong.
Graham out of contract. talk of him wanting out.
Rioli to gcs, he has a long contract till 2027 and we would get good compensation for him.
Bolton is contracted to 2028. not likely he is going it would cost the farm.
Martin out of contract to gcs who knows. Wont get much for him no one is going to pay him a huge salary. reckon he retires.
Lynch contracted to 2025 again just talk of maybe a club in the window needing a big proven key forward. He is contracted till end of next year would get something reasonable id say.
Hopper is contracted to 2028 not likely anyone will take that on.
Remaining uncontracted players are the following.
Miller,* HRS*, MRJ, OHB,* Ross*, Campbell*, Smith*, Trezise*, Green*, Lefau*, Blight*, Gray*.
You have to think the club would want to see more of all of them.
Yep i think 10 is the magic number but may be more if some trades actually happen
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
If he has a performance based contract for sfa it may not be so bad
That does not alter the fact he has done sweet stuff all.
Given he has done so little i would have thought it prudent we actually draft another promising actual ruckman.
In all honesty does anyone see him as a kpf at afl level.
When and if he ever improves these things and actually does something at afl level i will get of his case until then, well the facts are he has been bloody useless.
Cant jump lacks agility and speed lacks size strength and mongrel struggles to take marks at the level and has been utterly useless when the ball is on the ground.
Apart from that he is good 🥹
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
If he has a performance based contract for sfa it may not be so bad
That does not alter the fact he has done sweet stuff all.
Given he has done so little i would have thought it prudent we actually draft another promising actual ruckman.
In all honesty does anyone see him as a kpf at afl level.
When and if he ever improves these things and actually does something at afl level i will get of his case until then, well the facts are he has been bloody useless.
Cant jump lacks agility and speed lacks size strength and mongrel struggles to take marks at the level and has been utterly useless when the ball is on the ground.
Apart from that he is good 🥹
Just getting him ready to send to North Melbourne to join CCJ :lol
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Ryan "in the gun" having just signed a three year extension... :joker
Of course he should be in the gun. He has done sweet stuff all since we have had him. So your okay with giving absolute underperformers like him three year contracts now thats a joke.
I didn't give him the ridiculous three yr contract by the way.
If he has a performance based contract for sfa it may not be so bad
That does not alter the fact he has done sweet stuff all.
Given he has done so little i would have thought it prudent we actually draft another promising actual ruckman.
In all honesty does anyone see him as a kpf at afl level.
When and if he ever improves these things and actually does something at afl level i will get of his case until then, well the facts are he has been bloody useless.
Cant jump lacks agility and speed lacks size strength and mongrel struggles to take marks at the level and has been utterly useless when the ball is on the ground.
Apart from that he is good 🥹
Just getting him ready to send to North Melbourne to join CCJ :lol
I hate to give up on our players but sadly I think you may be on the money here
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It's his second efforts that frustrated me...or lack of. He just always seems so lethargic. Good VFL player, may never bridge to gap to AFL, but only time will tell.
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It's his second efforts that frustrated me...or lack of. He just always seems so lethargic. Good VFL player, may never bridge to gap to AFL, but only time will tell.
Yep I hate watching it.
Contests the ruck and then goes into spectator mode. Same with his marking contests.
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It's his second efforts that frustrated me...or lack of. He just always seems so lethargic. Good VFL player, may never bridge to gap to AFL, but only time will tell.
For call
I think that stems from what appears to be a lack of intensity at every contest