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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 05, 2024, 07:46:32 PM
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AFLW Round 2
RICHMOND vs GWS Giants
Sunday, 8th September @ the Swinburne Centre, Punt Road Oval.
Start time: 1:05 pm
Broadcast:
- Ch 7 (Vic, Tas, NT)
- 7mate (NSW, ACT)
- Fox Footy/Kayo (all states/territories)
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808
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IN: Tessa Lavey, Sarah Hosking, Charli Wicksteed, Mackenzie Ford, Isabel Bacon
OUT: Jemima Woods (Omitted), Stella Reid (Omitted)
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RICHMOND - extended squad
B: Gabrielle Seymour Rebecca Miller
HB: Beth Lynch Jodie Hicks Libby Graham
C: Maddie Shevlin Ellie McKenzie Kate Dempsey
HF: Tessa Lavey Katie Brennan Sarah Hosking
F: Caitlin Greiser Emelia Yassir
R: Poppy Kelly Grace Egan Monique Conti
Int: Laura McClelland Molly Eastman Charley Ryan Charli Wicksteed
Ally Dallaway Courtney Jones Mackenzie Ford Isabel Bacon
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1646721/
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Injury List
Player Injury Estimated Return
Tessa Lavey Hamstring Available
Isabel Bacon Illness Available
Sarah Hosking Back/Hamstring soreness Test
Mackenzie Ford Hamstring Test
Eilish Sheerin Quad 1 week
Montana McKinnon Knee Season
Katelyn Cox Knee Season
Shelby Knoll Knee Season
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/football/aflw/injury-list
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Much better looking and balanced side
No excuses this week
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Much better looking and balanced side
No excuses this week
There were excuses last week?
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Much better looking and balanced side
No excuses this week
There were excuses last week?
Not from me or the coach thank goodness
But the media, yep
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Sorry I’ve been living under a rock. Wasn’t gabby Seymour originally our go to Ruck?
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Sorry I’ve been living under a rock. Wasn’t gabby Seymour originally our go to Ruck?
No, was originally a KP defender but out of necessity in season 3 onwards she was first choice ruck when everyone realised her aerobic capacity
Some of last season and they're hoping this season she can go back in defence for the majority with the odd burst in the middle as mid fielder not ruck
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Sorry I’ve been living under a rock. Wasn’t gabby Seymour originally our go to Ruck?
No, was originally a KP defender but out of necessity in season 3 onwards she was first choice ruck when everyone realised her aerobic capacity
Some of last season and they're hoping this season she can go back in defence for the majority with the odd burst in the middle as mid fielder not ruck
Also allows us to see the quality ruck work of Poppy Kelly full time
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Sorry I’ve been living under a rock. Wasn’t gabby Seymour originally our go to Ruck?
No, was originally a KP defender but out of necessity in season 3 onwards she was first choice ruck when everyone realised her aerobic capacity
Some of last season and they're hoping this season she can go back in defence for the majority with the odd burst in the middle as mid fielder not ruck
Also allows us to see the quality ruck work of Poppy Kelly full time
:lol :rollin
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Finalised team with two debutants.
IN: Tessa Lavey, Sarah Hosking, Mackenzie Ford (debutant), Isabel Bacon (debutant)
OUT: Jemima Woods (Omitted), Stella Reid (Omitted), Molly Eastman (Omitted), Courtney Jones (Omitted)
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RICHMOND
B: Gabrielle Seymour Rebecca Miller
HB: Beth Lynch Jodie Hicks Libby Graham
C: Maddie Shevlin Ellie McKenzie Kate Dempsey
HF: Ally Dallaway Katie Brennan Sarah Hosking
F: Caitlin Greiser Emelia Yassir
R: Poppy Kelly Grace Egan Monique Conti
Int: Laura McClelland Charley Ryan Tessa Lavey Mackenzie Ford Isabel Bacon
Emg: Molly Eastman Courtney Jones Charli Wicksteed
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1647478/lavey-hosking-return-to-aflw-line-up-two-to-debut
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Won the toss and we're kicking with the breeze in the first quarter.
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You're running out the centre with the breeze and you don't kick the ball? :huh3
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Brennan shanks the set shot from 35 out but there's a free to Greiser in the pocket. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 1.0-6
GWS 0.0-0
Footy's not hard Tiges when you finally kick long inside 50 with the breeze.
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Good contest by Brennan gets the ball to ground. McClelland's ping from the boundary misses.
7 - 1
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McClelland long and Brennan takes the strong contested mark against 2 Giants. Finds Hosking in the pocket 10m out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.1-13
GWS 0.1-1
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Ryan inside 50 kick finds Brennan who takes the low diving mark 35 out. Misses just right.
Need to target the left goal post and let the breeze bring it back.
14 - 1
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Good forward pressure and Shevlin with the HTB free 35 out. Doesn't connect properly and misses to the left.
15 - 1
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.3-15
GWS 0.1-1
Goals: Greiser, Hosking.
Played more direct and got on top in the contest in the latter part of that first quarter. Let's see how we go into the breeze.
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Stats to QT:
Brennan 6 disposals
Conti 4
Dallaway 4
Ryan 4
Egan 3
McClelland 3
McKenzie 3
Disposals 52 - 50 .... ( contested: 24 - 22 )
Efficiency% 71 - 60
Marks 15 - 4
Clearances 2 - 5
Inside 50s 8 - 4
In50 eff.% 75 - 50
In50 marks 4 - 1
Tackles 13 - 12
Hitouts 6 - 0
Frees 8 - 3
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808#team-stats
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Ch 7 commentators saying it's a 1-2 goal breeze.
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Ball actually carried into the breeze (Dallaway) but Greiser can't soccer it across her body under pressure and it's a point.
We get it back from the kick-in and Dempsey goals :gotigers
Rich 3.4-22
GWS 0.1-1
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Throw-in 30 out. Egan hands to Conti but the ping from the boundary misses.
23 - 7
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Ball up 40 out. Free to Conti. Kick goes to a metre out and it's rushed.
24 - 7
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Ball-up 30 out. We force it forward and Hosking is there to run into an open goal :gotigers.
Rich 4.6-30
GWS 1.1-7
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Ch 7 commentators saying it's a 1-2 goal breeze.
Lmao at them gauging a breeze as 1-2 goals like it’s a men’s game of footy
The AFLW players are lucky to kick it half the distance .. play a slower more congested footy , and the games are horribly low scoring normally
So I can assume if an AFL game that it’s a 4-5 goals breeze ?
That’s the only way the assessment of the breeze advantage makes sense (being proven by us doing fine against it btw)
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Half-time
Richmond 2.3 4.6-30
GWS 0.1 1.1-7
Goals: Hosking 2, Greiser, Dempsey.
Best contesting/tackling/defensive effort for a long while. Ball has spent most of the time in our forward half.
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Stats to HT:
Egan 12 disposals
McKenzie 10
Shevlin 10
Conti 9
Dallaway 9
Lavey 7
Brennan 6
Hosking 6
Kelly 6
Lynch 6
McClelland 5
Dempsey 4
Ford 4
Ryan 4
Graham 3
Hicks 3
Seymour 3
Bacon 2
Miller 2
Yassir 2
Greiser 1
Disposals 114 - 102 .... ( contested: 53 - 43 )
Efficiency% 64 - 63
Marks 21 - 17
Clearances 12 - 12
Inside 50s 19 - 7
In50 eff.% 53 - 43
In50 marks 6 - 2
Tackles 35 - 30
Hitouts 19 - 6
Frees 11 - 6
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808#team-stats
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Ball-up at HB. Lavey bursts through and gets the kick forward into space. McClelland handball over the head to Brennan who finds Yassir 15m out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 5.6-36
GWS 1.1-7
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We've gone to sleep pressure wise. Back to back goals to the Giants.
36 - 20
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.3 4.6 5.6-36
GWS 0.1 1.1 3.2-20
Goals: Hosking 2, Greiser, Dempsey, Yassir
Pathetic last 10 mins. Pressure and intensity plus team structure completely vanished. GWS ran the ball and we just let them do it with no one defensive side of contests :facepalm.
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Stats to 3/4 time:
Egan 16 disposals
McKenzie 16
Conti 12
Lavey 11
Dallaway 10 ..... spent most of the 3rd term on the bench with a hip knock.
Shevlin 10
Disposals 157 - 179 .... ( contested: 75 - 67 )
Efficiency% 62 - 67
Clearances 18 - 19
Inside 50s 27 - 16
In50 eff.% 41 - 38
Tackles 49 - 51
Hitouts 32 - 11
Frees 13 - 11
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808#team-stats
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Conti ping misses.
37 - 27
We're so isolated. No teamwork.
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These umps :facepalm.
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Hosking snap misses.
38 - 27
52 secs left.
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Hung on to win by 11 pts.
:gotigers
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Final Score
Richmond 2.3 4.6 5.6 5.8-38
GWS 0.1 1.1 3.2 4.3-27
Goals: Hosking 2, Greiser, Dempsey, Yassir
First 50 mins very good. Last 30 mins bloody ordinary. Almost the opposite of last week except we won today.
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Individual Stats:
Conti 18 disposals
Egan 18
McKenzie 18
Lavey 12
Shevlin 12
Hosking 11
Brennan 10
Dallaway 10
Graham 10
Lynch 10
Ryan 10
Kelly 9
Miller 9
Ford 7
McClelland 7
Dempsey 6
Greiser 5
Seymour 5
Yassir 4
Bacon 3
Hicks 3
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808#player-stats
Team Stats:
Disposals 197 - 236 ..... ( contested: 100 - 88 ; uncontested: 96 - 138 )
Efficiency% 60 - 67
Kicks 119 - 116
Handballs 78 - 120
Turnovers 46 - 53
Marks 38 - 35 ..... ( contested marks: 7 - 5 )
Tackles 61 - 78
Clearances 21 - 26 ..... ( centre: 2 - 4 ; stoppages: 19 - 22 )
Inside 50s 33 - 25
In50 eff.% 39 - 40
In50 marks 7 - 4
In50 tackles 15 - 2
Hitouts 42 - 24
One %ers 21 - 25
Frees 15 - 15
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6808#team-stats
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Tigers hold off Giants to claim first win of season
The Tigers have overcome the Giants for their first win of the season
By AAP with Dejan Kalinic
afl.com.au
8 September 2024
RICHMOND has responded from a shock opening-round defeat to West Coast, holding off a fast-finishing Greater Western Sydney by 11 points.
Nine days after suffering a stunning loss in Daisy Pearce's first game as Eagles coach, the Tigers controlled Sunday's match at Punt Rd in windy conditions from the outset.
But GWS launched a brave fightback from 29 points down, kicking three straight goals to give itself an outside chance of pinching victory.
Despite kicking just one goal in the second half, Richmond held on to win 5.8 (38) to 4.3 (27).
The Giants dominated after half-time, but their slow start cost them any chance of going 2-0 to back up last week's demolition of the hapless Western Bulldogs.
Captain Katie Brennan set the tone with an imposing first quarter, while Sarah Hosking capitalised up forward with two goals.
"GWS are a great team. They love to use the footy through the corridor," Brennan told the Seven Network.
"Really proud of our group to be able to stop that, stem the flow and also come out firing, which was a bit of a focus for us off the back of last week.
"We were all just ready to start our engines, make sure we started really fast.
"I thought it was a super effort from all our girls."
GWS had the four leading disposal winners on the ground, headlined by Alyce Parker's 26.
Tigers superstar Monique Conti had a quieter game than her usual lofty standards with 18 disposals, matched by teammates Ellie McKenzie and Grace Egan.
Brilliant Brennan sets early tone
The Tigers set up their win with a strong first half and much of it was thanks to a dominant first quarter from Katie Brennan. Brennan had six kicks, four marks and a tackle in the opening term. The Giants managed to slow her down, but Brennan played an important role in setting up the Tigers' win.
Up next
The Tigers have a tricky trip to take on Sydney in Coffs Harbour at 12.35pm AEST on Saturday. The Giants are playing in the final game of week three, hosting Gold Coast at Manuka Oval on Sunday.
RICHMOND 2.3 4.6 5.6 5.8 (38)
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 0.1 1.1 3.2 4.3 (27)
GOALS
Richmond: Hosking 2, Greiser, Dempsey, Yassir
Greater Western Sydney: Goldsworthy, Eva, Brazendale, Pauga
BEST
Richmond: Brennan, McKenzie, Conti, Egan, Graham, Hosking
Greater Western Sydney: Goldsworthy, Parker, O'Dowd, Barr, Beeson
INJURIES
Richmond: Nil
Greater Western Sydney: Nil
LATE CHANGES
Richmond: Nil
Greater Western Sydney: Jessica Doyle (illness) replaced in selected side by Courtney Murphy
Reports: Nil
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1215621/richmond-tigers-hold-off-greater-western-sydney-giants-to-claim-first-win-of-season
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(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/09/08/114d21bf-855b-4aaf-99b6-234af33c184c/ethHwegg.jpg?width=451&height=268) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650658/aflw-week-2-match-highlights)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650658/aflw-week-2-match-highlights
Team Song:
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/09/08/2a229365-fdf2-4a07-b341-ad523d324917/zR2nxXkN.jpg?width=1240) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650658/aflw-week-2-match-highlights)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650658/aflw-week-2-match-highlights
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I've got to say our first half is definitely how we want to play as a minimum standard. Clearly the girls have the same issues as our men's team with poor fitness.
Conti and McKenzie were solid as was Lavey and Shevlin. Hosking a live wire early. Our pressure up forward was elite in the first half.
Captain Brennan set the tone with her aggression and marking up forward too.
Miller was solid in defence.
Egan was very disappointing and the usual suspects like Kelly was absolutely awful again.
And why Seymour (one of my favourites) is wasting her life in defence is anybody's guess :banghead. Put her back in the ruck!!!
Greiser has been a useless dud since she's arrived. Drops more marks than Poppy Kelly so that should be a clear sign how terribly she is struggling.
Can't wait to see Sheerin back. We still need lots of improvement but a win is a win.
Our skills across the whole team still needs a lot of work as does our goal kicking.
P.S. Gabby is wasted in defence.
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So I can assume if an AFL game that it’s a 4-5 goals breeze ?
That’s the only way the assessment of the breeze advantage makes sense (being proven by us doing fine against it btw)
Breeze was interesting, when there were gusts you'd say 2- 3 goals, when it died down nil advantage at all. Having said that for the 1st half it clearly favoured the Richmond station end.
Very little advantage in the 2nd half.
For the 1st qtr I would have a said 3 goal advantage men or women's game. It died down alot on the 2nd.
Anyways onto the actual game...
First half was excellent, first half of the 3rd qtr was excellent then it went down hill. Some very stupid moves from the coach's box. We had 2 quality small forwards applying fantastic pressure coming off the square and they spent a ridiculous amount of time on the bench in 2nd half of the 3rd qtr
GWS clearly targeted Mon Conti in the 2nd half and the umps did nothing... very fortunate that there was no serious injury ...
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I've got to say our first half is definitely how we want to play as a minimum standard. Clearly the girls have the same issues as our men's team with poor fitness.
Conti and McKenzie were solid as was Lavey and Shevlin. Hosking a live wire early. Our pressure up forward was elite in the first half.
Captain Brennan set the tone with her aggression and marking up forward too.
Miller was solid in defence.
Egan was very disappointing and the usual suspects like Kelly was absolutely awful again.
And why Seymour (one of my favourites) is wasting her life in defence is anybody's guess :banghead. Put her back in the ruck!!!
Greiser has been a useless dud since she's arrived. Drops more marks than Poppy Kelly so that should be a clear sign how terribly she is struggling.
Can't wait to see Sheerin back. We still need lots of improvement but a win is a win.
Our skills across the whole team still needs a lot of work as does our goal kicking.
Gabby is wasted in defence.
Serious question were you at the game?
I'm no Poppy King fan either but she was great today
Why is Gabby Seymour playing down back? To straighten us up. Also, Because the GWS forward line was very tall so we needed height. She was very good in her lock down role today. It is also clear the coaches have decided for reasons I can't understand they seem determined to use McCelland as the chop out on the ruck
Agree re Egan terrible game. Followed up her brain fade cost us the game moment last week with more of the same today :banghead
I'm a huge Ellie McKenzie fan but her not taking the first option trying to take everyone on everytime was so costly at times it did my head in
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(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/09/08/624b6f3b-1e99-479c-9f80-38f33a307686/cdc4Omr5.jpg?width=1240) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650784/aflw-week-2-ferguson-post-match)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1650784/aflw-week-2-ferguson-post-match
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For the 1st qtr I would have a said 3 goal advantage men or women's game. It died down alot on the 2nd.
How it can be the same for an AFL of AFLW game makes absolutely zero sense.
Shorter quarters
Lower scoring
Slower game
Lower standard
Just an absolute impossibility that the wind can have the same impact on an AFLW game
I’d suggest if you think a breeze is worth three for the men, it MIGHT be worth a goal in the woman’s game .. two an impossibility
Just my opinion
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I've got to say our first half is definitely how we want to play as a minimum standard. Clearly the girls have the same issues as our men's team with poor fitness.
Conti and McKenzie were solid as was Lavey and Shevlin. Hosking a live wire early. Our pressure up forward was elite in the first half.
Captain Brennan set the tone with her aggression and marking up forward too.
Miller was solid in defence.
Egan was very disappointing and the usual suspects like Kelly was absolutely awful again.
And why Seymour (one of my favourites) is wasting her life in defence is anybody's guess :banghead. Put her back in the ruck!!!
Greiser has been a useless dud since she's arrived. Drops more marks than Poppy Kelly so that should be a clear sign how terribly she is struggling.
Can't wait to see Sheerin back. We still need lots of improvement but a win is a win.
Our skills across the whole team still needs a lot of work as does our goal kicking.
Gabby is wasted in defence.
Serious question were you at the game?
I'm no Poppy King fan either but she was great today
Why is Gabby Seymour playing down back? To straighten us up. Also, Because the GWS forward line was very tall so we needed height. She was very good in her lock down role today. It is also clear the coaches have decided for reasons I can't understand they seem determined to use McCelland as the chop out on the ruck
Agree re Egan terrible game. Followed up her brain fade cost us the game moment last week with more of the same today :banghead
I'm a huge Ellie McKenzie fan but her not taking the first option trying to take everyone on everytime was so costly at times it did my head in
No I wasn't.
Poppy Kelly cannot ruck.The stats makers are very very generous when adjudicating what determines an effective tap out. I personally think they just tick the box if it goes in the direction of the team of that ruck. She cannot mark and cannot handpass to save her life consistently runs the wrong direction and cannot position herself properly to use her massive height advantage in down the line contests. :help
Around the ground she is non existent. That's why I'd rather see Seymour not wasted and getting to more contests and impacting the game as she has always done so well.
However, I must admit that Kelly's kicking from a stoppage is actually pretty decent and unlike most she can lay an effective tackle.
How many dropped marks? If her and "Plugger" Grieser could actually hold a mark I wouldn't be complaining about them at every game an easy chest mark goes banging off the chest exactly like when I try to get my baby niece to catch a ball. :help
Grieser is an absolute dud so far.
Absolutely agree with McKenzie. Her first option is probably the best one but I don't mind her trying to take it on and sometimes it comes off and she looks unstoppable when she does.
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Poppy is the least of our problems. The fact our players are slow and unfit apart from Conti and Sheerin are the real problem. I don't see any improvement in any of our squad. When the stuff is Sheehan going to be held accountable!
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I've got to say our first half is definitely how we want to play as a minimum standard. Clearly the girls have the same issues as our men's team with poor fitness.
Conti and McKenzie were solid as was Lavey and Shevlin. Hosking a live wire early. Our pressure up forward was elite in the first half.
Captain Brennan set the tone with her aggression and marking up forward too.
Miller was solid in defence.
Egan was very disappointing and the usual suspects like Kelly was absolutely awful again.
And why Seymour (one of my favourites) is wasting her life in defence is anybody's guess :banghead. Put her back in the ruck!!!
Greiser has been a useless dud since she's arrived. Drops more marks than Poppy Kelly so that should be a clear sign how terribly she is struggling.
Can't wait to see Sheerin back. We still need lots of improvement but a win is a win.
Our skills across the whole team still needs a lot of work as does our goal kicking.
Gabby is wasted in defence.
Serious question were you at the game?
I'm no Poppy King fan either but she was great today
Why is Gabby Seymour playing down back? To straighten us up. Also, Because the GWS forward line was very tall so we needed height. She was very good in her lock down role today. It is also clear the coaches have decided for reasons I can't understand they seem determined to use McCelland as the chop out on the ruck
Agree re Egan terrible game. Followed up her brain fade cost us the game moment last week with more of the same today :banghead
I'm a huge Ellie McKenzie fan but her not taking the first option trying to take everyone on everytime was so costly at times it did my head in
No I wasn't.
Poppy Kelly cannot ruck.The stats makers are very very generous when adjudicating what determines an effective tap out. I personally think they just tick the box if it goes in the direction of the team of that ruck. She cannot mark and cannot handpass to save her life consistently runs the wrong direction and cannot position herself properly to use her massive height advantage in down the line contests. :help
Around the ground she is non existent. That's why I'd rather see Seymour not wasted and getting to more contests and impacting the game as she has always done so well.
However, I must admit that Kelly's kicking from a stoppage is actually pretty decent and unlike most she can lay an effective tackle.
How many dropped marks? If her and "Plugger" Grieser could actually hold a mark I wouldn't be complaining about them at every game an easy chest mark goes banging off the chest exactly like when I try to get my baby niece to catch a ball. :help
Grieser is an absolute dud so far.
Absolutely agree with McKenzie. Her first option is probably the best one but I don't mind her trying to take it on and sometimes it comes off and she looks unstoppable when she does.
I dont, I want Ellie taking the game on at every opportunity.
In fact if I was coach I would implement a team rule saying that if you are not Ellie, Conti or Brennan, if you have the ball you must give it to one of those three.
The vast majority of our squad cannot kick the ball past 25 metres let alone getting it near the target
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Poppy is the least of our problems. The fact our players are slow and unfit apart from Conti and Sheerin are the real problem. I don't see any improvement in any of our squad. When the stuff is Sheehan going to be held accountable!
Agree another solid game from Poppy, 2.2/10 this week
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Unfortunately I still have no interest in AFLW.
Could happily watch Conti run around but I have minimal interest in a game that sees 9 goals. Worse than soccer, watching all that football with nothing happening.
Glad they had a win though.
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
Million percent
Was having a beer with an assistant coach of the Bulldogs, back when they were a good side
He made the comment that the best players in that side wouldn’t get a senior game at St Albans
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
Million percent
Was having a beer with an assistant coach of the Bulldogs, back when they were a good side
He made the comment that the best players in that side wouldn’t get a senior game at St Albans
Interesting Damo, 2 of those players are now at Richmond and one of them is the best captain in the comp and the other player is the best player in the comp. Reckon Mon Conti would get a game at St Albans
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I dont, I want Ellie taking the game on at every opportunity.
In fact if I was coach I would implement a team rule saying that if you are not Ellie, Conti or Brennan, if you have the ball you must give it to one of those three.
The vast majority of our squad cannot kick the ball past 25 metres let alone getting it near the target
Normally I'd agree with you Chuck but when you have a teammate free 30 metres down the line and you're an elite kick you don't try and take on not 2 but 3 of the opposition and turn into trouble gifting the opposition a free and soft goal. You hit that teammate 30 metres down the line
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
Million percent
Was having a beer with an assistant coach of the Bulldogs, back when they were a good side
He made the comment that the best players in that side wouldn’t get a senior game at St Albans
Interesting Damo, 2 of those players are now at Richmond and one of them is the best captain in the comp and the other player is the best player in the comp. Reckon Mon Conti would get a game at St Albans
She wouldn’t have as an 18yo, so that is irrelevant
So stand by the comment 100% and trust the person who was a senior assistant at the Bulldogs
My error was saying St Albans .. the club was Deer Park
You can now guess the coach - who also played 44 games of AFL football
So yeah , his knowledge of the game will do me
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Unfortunately I still have no interest in AFLW.
Could happily watch Conti run around but I have minimal interest in a game that sees 9 goals. Worse than soccer, watching all that football with nothing happening.
Do you reckon if they increased a goal to 12 points and a behind to 4 points it would help?
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Unfortunately I still have no interest in AFLW.
Could happily watch Conti run around but I have minimal interest in a game that sees 9 goals. Worse than soccer, watching all that football with nothing happening.
Do you reckon if they increased a goal to 12 points and a behind to 4 points it would help?
No.
Unfortunately I just find most female professional sports to be underwhelming.
I think the reason for this is that I appreciate male sport when I see feats of athleticism, strength and skill that are truly beyond me. Women can be great at sport but for example I don't feel impressed seeing 30-40m kicks for goal, because I could probably have a go myself. At the AFL level you'll see blokes kick goals from 50-60+ and you know that's beyond the average man. That's just an example.
Despite that there are sports that I enjoy watching women play as much or more than men - netball, tennis, random things like table tennis, badminton, volleyball etc.
I just think for the sports that I truly like as sport codes I always find the men more impressive.
There are several examples of professional women playing average men and being demolished if you have a quick google. Serena Williams played the #200 ranked bloke once and got pantsed. There's also footage of a professional lady's soccer team playing a group of men in their 50-60's and getting pumped etc.
So yeah, that's it for me, as a spectator who enjoys the spectacle of the game!
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
Million percent
Was having a beer with an assistant coach of the Bulldogs, back when they were a good side
He made the comment that the best players in that side wouldn’t get a senior game at St Albans
Interesting Damo, 2 of those players are now at Richmond and one of them is the best captain in the comp and the other player is the best player in the comp. Reckon Mon Conti would get a game at St Albans
She wouldn’t have as an 18yo, so that is irrelevant
So stand by the comment 100% and trust the person who was a senior assistant at the Bulldogs
My error was saying St Albans .. the club was Deer Park
You can now guess the coach - who also played 44 games of AFL football
So yeah , his knowledge of the game will do me
Have no idea who the coach is but am I correct in assuming he was an assistant in the men's program?
No.
Unfortunately I just find most female professional sports to be underwhelming.
I think the reason for this is that I appreciate male sport when I see feats of athleticism, strength and skill that are truly beyond me. Women can be great at sport but for example I don't feel impressed seeing 30-40m kicks for goal, because I could probably have a go myself. At the AFL level you'll see blokes kick goals from 50-60+ and you know that's beyond the average man. That's just an example.
Despite that there are sports that I enjoy watching women play as much or more than men - netball, tennis, random things like table tennis, badminton, volleyball etc.
I just think for the sports that I truly like as sport codes I always find the men more impressive.
There are several examples of professional women playing average men and being demolished if you have a quick google. Serena Williams played the #200 ranked bloke once and got pantsed. There's also footage of a professional lady's soccer team playing a group of men in their 50-60's and getting pumped etc.
So yeah, that's it for me, as a spectator who enjoys the spectacle of the game!
Each to their own Andyy but what about womens cricket? you find that underwhelming too? Absolutely love watching the Aussie girls on the cricket filed. Play the game the right way and are super talented.
Finally I don't want to come across as potting posters as it's not my intent but I truly feel for any daughters of some our posters who love footy, want to play it and aspire to be AFLW players, what sort of message, support does it send denigrating and finding fault with it at every opportunity :huh3 :huh3 :help
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Two of my girls play and I don't discourage them but I don't feel the need to pretend they're just as good as the men or their brothers or that AFLW is awesome to watch and just as entertaining as the AFL proper....they wouldn't give a shyte anyway....... :shh
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Two of my girls play and I don't discourage them but I don't feel the need to pretend they're just as good as the men or their brothers or that AFLW is awesome to watch and just as entertaining as the AFL proper....they wouldn't give a shyte anyway....... :shh
I dont' think anyone has ever said that the AFLW is as good as the AFL. But I don't know why people have to continually compare it to the men's game and belittle it and the players at the same time
They are fundamentally different for very obvious reasons.
Though I stand by my comment about Mon Conti, she is the exception, is awesome to watch and better skilled than a couple of our RFC blokes :shh
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WP as great as MonCon is and as much as she’s a star both in our side and the AFLW in general, she would not be able to play in a men’s side be it at AFL, state, local or U18 level.
To suggest so is a disservice to both AFLW and MonCon, as like you’ve mentioned, there is no point in comparing leagues/teams/players of different genders, 1 of which has been running a professional comp for 120+ years vs 1 which has been running for 8.
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It wouldn't matter if the AFLW had been running for 200 years - it might be better than it is now but it would still be a woefully inferior competition.....and Mon Conti would barely cut it in the EDFL second division.....it'd be like that chick that tried for the Hammerheads in that stupid reality show from years ago... :shh
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Cmon dio, saying ‘it might be better’ if it had been running for 200 years is being purposely dismissive and you know it.
Ofcourse it would still be inferior to AFL, just like cricket, tennis, soccer and any sport is and that’s just a product of the men being quicker, stronger, fitter, etc. etc.
Point WP is trying to make (other than when talking about Conti), is that there really isn’t a need to always be bringing up how it’s not as good as the AFL. They’re not the same competition and never will be, so why keep bringing it up.
To each their own, but I’ve never understood why people will jump on an AFLW related thread just to crap on it. Like if it’s not for you, just don’t watch it.
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Coaches' votes (Ferguson & Bernasconi)
Richmond v Greater Western Sydney
6 Ellie McKenzie (RICH)
5 Grace Egan (RICH)
5 Katie Brennan (RICH)
4 Zarlie Goldsworthy (GWS)
4 Eilish O'Dowd (GWS)
4 Alyce Parker (GWS)
1 Cambridge McCormick (GWS)
1 Monique Conti (RICH)
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1217231/coaches-votes-w2-adelaide-crows-stars-anne-hatchard-ebony-marinoff-share-lead-four-perfect-10s
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You can walk down to the local park & see better games than this over-hyped tripe.... :shh
Million percent
Was having a beer with an assistant coach of the Bulldogs, back when they were a good side
He made the comment that the best players in that side wouldn’t get a senior game at St Albans
Interesting Damo, 2 of those players are now at Richmond and one of them is the best captain in the comp and the other player is the best player in the comp. Reckon Mon Conti would get a game at St Albans
She wouldn’t have as an 18yo, so that is irrelevant
So stand by the comment 100% and trust the person who was a senior assistant at the Bulldogs
My error was saying St Albans .. the club was Deer Park
You can now guess the coach - who also played 44 games of AFL football
So yeah , his knowledge of the game will do me
Have no idea who the coach is but am I correct in assuming he was an assistant in the men's program?
No.
Unfortunately I just find most female professional sports to be underwhelming.
I think the reason for this is that I appreciate male sport when I see feats of athleticism, strength and skill that are truly beyond me. Women can be great at sport but for example I don't feel impressed seeing 30-40m kicks for goal, because I could probably have a go myself. At the AFL level you'll see blokes kick goals from 50-60+ and you know that's beyond the average man. That's just an example.
Despite that there are sports that I enjoy watching women play as much or more than men - netball, tennis, random things like table tennis, badminton, volleyball etc.
I just think for the sports that I truly like as sport codes I always find the men more impressive.
There are several examples of professional women playing average men and being demolished if you have a quick google. Serena Williams played the #200 ranked bloke once and got pantsed. There's also footage of a professional lady's soccer team playing a group of men in their 50-60's and getting pumped etc.
So yeah, that's it for me, as a spectator who enjoys the spectacle of the game!
Each to their own Andyy but what about womens cricket? you find that underwhelming too? Absolutely love watching the Aussie girls on the cricket filed. Play the game the right way and are super talented.
Finally I don't want to come across as potting posters as it's not my intent but I truly feel for any daughters of some our posters who love footy, want to play it and aspire to be AFLW players, what sort of message, support does it send denigrating and finding fault with it at every opportunity :huh3 :huh3 :help
Still find it underwhelming unfortunately. To be clear, I don't find every aspect boring - can appreciate good talent, good athleticism, good moments etc - just saying that largely speaking, as a spectacle, I find mens sport more entertaining in most codes.
Also it's very different when you have a vested interest. My son played U9's footy last year. They don't even score the game at all and the standard was largely appalling haha. But it's different when you have a child or friend or family out there.