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Title: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: one-eyed on September 12, 2024, 08:04:47 PM
That time of the year for a player review thread. Hugo is first up.

Hugo in his fifth year (fourth since debuting) played a season most 18 out of a possible 23 games to take his career tally to 50. He came into the side in round 5 and played all but one of the remaining matches.

Season Highlights
* 21 disposals, 6 marks & 3 tackles - R7 vs Melbourne.
* 17 disposals, 6 marks & 1 goal - R23 vs Hawthorn.
* 17 disposals, 4 marks & 1 goal - R11 vs Essendon.
* 14 disposals, 6 marks & 1 goal - R8 vs Fremantle.

Career stats:
          Games  Kicks   Hballs  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B    Clear.   In50      Re50     GA
2021:      6*     4.5      3.7         8.2        1.2       0.8       3.2      0.0      1.6        0.8      0.0
2022:    13*     7.8      6.7       14.5        3.5       1.3       5.1      0.3      2.1        1.9      0.1
2023:    13*     5.9      5.1       11.0        3.3       0.5       1.2      0.4      1.9        1.2      0.3
2024:    18       7.7      5.9       13.6        3.9       1.5       6.5      0.8      2.9        1.3      0.2

* Includes 1 game as unused substitute, 6 games as activated substitute, and 1 game subbed off.

https://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=3088
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-richmond-tigers--hugo-ralphsmith


How did we all rate Hugo's year?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Damo on September 12, 2024, 08:15:09 PM
6
And im a big critic
Got to give credit where it’s due

Hopefully keeps improving
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 12, 2024, 08:15:59 PM
Passed KMac, seemed to be harder at it than previous years. I gave him a 6.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 12, 2024, 08:35:41 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: the claw on September 12, 2024, 08:47:27 PM
Same as others here.about 6
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Andyy on September 12, 2024, 09:10:13 PM
6.5 but voted 7.

Gave me reason to want to keep him when I was ready to delist a year ago.

He had one particular game where he was tough as nails and had FA stats to show for it but I thought he was one of our best.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 12, 2024, 09:16:09 PM
6.5 from me so voted 7

Been one of his biggest critics but he showed huge improvement from where he was at the end of 2023

Kudos to Hugo, well done
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: camboon on September 12, 2024, 09:37:21 PM
I also gave him 7 too as he gave me some hope , not just for proving me wrong but that others with experience might step up too.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: JP Tiger on September 12, 2024, 09:57:19 PM
In a world of sink or swim, this was the year that Hugo decided to swim.  It gained a 6.5 from me (voted a 7). 
This what I look for in young players who are struggling to make the grade, its when they decide to stop getting trounced.  The realization that they can push back & start heading in the right direction lifts them up, then comes the boost when they start to believe they can do it.

Hugo still has a long way to go, but I was impressed that he made a choice to go after it ...   :clapping
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Diocletian on September 12, 2024, 10:45:08 PM
4 coming off a base of 1.... :shh
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2024, 07:45:32 AM
Ralphsmith Rising

RFC website
12 Sep 2024


Hugo Ralphsmith was a bright light in a bleak season for Richmond. The hard-running, 22-year-old established himself as a permanent member of the Tigers’ senior line-up on a wing, maintaining an impressive level of consistency throughout. He sat down for a review of his season, and this is what he had to say . . .

Season reflections

“From a personal standpoint, it was a pretty positive year . . . I felt like I took some leaps and bounds in my game and improved on the things that I wanted to improve on. I’m still obviously growing . . . I’m not at a finished product yet.”

Reasons for his improvement

“Just having more tough conversations with coaches and people in my corner about the things that I needed to improve on. And getting to work on those in the pre-season. It didn’t happen straight away, but once I got into the team during the year, I just felt more comfortable in my ability to use the ball and run with the ball and play to my strengths. So, it was a slow burn, but we got there in the end.”

Further areas of improvement

“I’m still trying to grow the contested side of my game and to be tougher over the footy. Also, just my execution in kicking. Little things that can always get better. I’m still trying to chip away at that.”

Marking development

“My aerial ability has been a side of my game that I’ve always had, since I was a junior. And then, having the belief to go for my marks – taking that to the next level. Instead of thinking someone else is going to do it, just doing it myself. Just go or them, at least. I’m happy that was a side of my game that improved . . .”

Biggest achievements this year

“I had my 50th game (in the final round v Gold Coast) . . . that was a big milestone for me. Ticked that one off, which was really nice. Also, just not getting dropped for the first time in my career. I was proud of the way I went about getting into the team, and then committing to myself to stay in the team. They were probably the two main ones.”

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1652403/ralphsmith-rising
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 14, 2024, 10:23:50 AM
I think Hugo is going very well.

If you think back on Shane Edward’s I remember people saying he was hopeless in his early years.
Not saying they are the same player, just saying very very very few players hit the ground running and it takes time to mature.

I gave Hugo a 7 and hope to give him an 8 next year
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: the claw on September 14, 2024, 02:48:46 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 14, 2024, 03:17:09 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: eliminator on September 15, 2024, 08:12:34 AM
Has improved. Last game against Gold Coast was really disappointing.  Hopefully can build on the gains made this year and carry through to next season.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on September 15, 2024, 02:21:05 PM
6. Also a massive critic. Wasn't as soft and had some games where he really dug in. Am hoping he's not one we rushed to add more years to his contract though. Needs to improve a little more and keep being somewhat consistent to remain beyond 2025 IMO.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 16, 2024, 09:42:43 PM
4 coming off a base of 1.... :shh

I agree with this rating but have no interest in the “head over the pill” shyte that people value in his game. Hard running both ways with offensive run and elite kicking (long or short as circumstances dictate) inside 50. Which I doubt he can do.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: the claw on September 17, 2024, 03:19:28 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)

WEll bugger me his numbers are at the top of the page so hang draw and quarter me for not noticing.
You in all seriousness are not basing improvement on those minimalistic increses are you. As i said his numbers remain alarmingly low.
His numbers in anyones language are unacceptable.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: camboon on September 17, 2024, 03:28:06 PM
I ‘ll do it, anyone got a spare 4 horses , I have some rope and a butter knife!!!
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 17, 2024, 04:09:08 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)

WEll bugger me his numbers are at the top of the page so hang draw and quarter me for not noticing.
You in all seriousness are not basing improvement on those minimalistic increses are you. As i said his numbers remain alarmingly low.
His numbers in anyones language are unacceptable.

I did say that I could see it watching the games and the numbers backed it up that he improved this season.

I’m not a big fan, never have been but I can also recognise that he showed improvement this season and if he can keep doing that, maybe he’ll prove me and all the other doubters wrong.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: the claw on September 17, 2024, 07:37:13 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)

WEll bugger me his numbers are at the top of the page so hang draw and quarter me for not noticing.
You in all seriousness are not basing improvement on those minimalistic increses are you. As i said his numbers remain alarmingly low.
His numbers in anyones language are unacceptable.

I did say that I could see it watching the games and the numbers backed it up that he improved this season.

I’m not a big fan, never have been but I can also recognise that he showed improvement this season and if he can keep doing that, maybe he’ll prove me and all the other doubters wrong.

I think most are saying he improved at least physically by actually competeing at contests.

I'm saying it again but we have so many players who just do not get enough ball.
Im not sold on his footskills or his numbers which as you say have minimally improved in some areas but just are not good enough.

He is 23 and as i said atm he is very much in what i call upgrade territory. We have far too many in this area.
Like everyone i hope like hell he can keep improving i really think he needs to. If he stagnates next year id say time to move him on.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: Andyy on September 18, 2024, 08:41:32 AM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)

WEll bugger me his numbers are at the top of the page so hang draw and quarter me for not noticing.
You in all seriousness are not basing improvement on those minimalistic increses are you. As i said his numbers remain alarmingly low.
His numbers in anyones language are unacceptable.

I did say that I could see it watching the games and the numbers backed it up that he improved this season.

I’m not a big fan, never have been but I can also recognise that he showed improvement this season and if he can keep doing that, maybe he’ll prove me and all the other doubters wrong.

I think most are saying he improved at least physically by actually competeing at contests.

I'm saying it again but we have so many players who just do not get enough ball.
Im not sold on his footskills or his numbers which as you say have minimally improved in some areas but just are not good enough.

He is 23 and as i said atm he is very much in what i call upgrade territory. We have far too many in this area.
Like everyone i hope like hell he can keep improving i really think he needs to. If he stagnates next year id say time to move him on.

Virtually every metric has improved.

If he can improve again in 2025 we will have a solid player.

As far as our list is concerned I would have him very low on our list of problems. The other issue really is the opposite wing where we will still be playing an ageing KMac.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - Hugo Ralphsmith?
Post by: the claw on September 19, 2024, 12:05:50 PM
Legitimately improved, even not looking at the numbers, which are up across the board, you could just see it watching the games.

Still unconvinced he is a long term player for us, however this season was definitely a good start to proving otherwise.

6.5/10

Are his numbers up im not so sure on that. His numbers remain alarmingly low imo.
He actually managed to be competetive thats his improvement.

I have a lot who fall into the category of it should not be too hard to get a reasonable upgrade. Still think he is there.
Did enough this year to save his arse but boy he needs to continue to improve.

Literally all of the stats posted to open this thread are UP from every other season. Unless the definition of up has changed recently, then yes, his numbers are up  ::)

WEll bugger me his numbers are at the top of the page so hang draw and quarter me for not noticing.
You in all seriousness are not basing improvement on those minimalistic increses are you. As i said his numbers remain alarmingly low.
His numbers in anyones language are unacceptable.

I did say that I could see it watching the games and the numbers backed it up that he improved this season.

I’m not a big fan, never have been but I can also recognise that he showed improvement this season and if he can keep doing that, maybe he’ll prove me and all the other doubters wrong.

I think most are saying he improved at least physically by actually competeing at contests.

I'm saying it again but we have so many players who just do not get enough ball.
Im not sold on his footskills or his numbers which as you say have minimally improved in some areas but just are not good enough.

He is 23 and as i said atm he is very much in what i call upgrade territory. We have far too many in this area.
Like everyone i hope like hell he can keep improving i really think he needs to. If he stagnates next year id say time to move him on.

Virtually every metric has improved.

If he can improve again in 2025 we will have a solid player.

As far as our list is concerned I would have him very low on our list of problems. The other issue really is the opposite wing where we will still be playing an ageing KMac.

Yet virtually every metric is still way below what is required.

Like Dio said he's gone from 1 to 4 with a long way to go still.