One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on August 23, 2025, 05:29:33 PM
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Where we are at atm, id genuinely offer up some of our better players, offer to pay a big chunk of their wages for decent picks.
We are 2nd bottom, instead of running down contracts of older players, I'd rather off load them and get some decent picks.
1. Noah Balta - His currency is low ATM, but would command a 1st round draft pick. Offer to pay majority of a front loaded contract as we have a lot of cap space which can't be filled by attracting top talent to play finals. So fill the cap by paying it for a traded player at another club.
Clubs that trade for Balta -
Saints for Pick 7. Need a 2nd decent Key back. Pick 7 may be overs.
Gold Coast Pick 10. Hardwick would take Balta in a heartbeat. Knows the game plan, GC need talent not picks. Their cap is getting tight and would jump at top talent whose contract is being paid for.
Dogs Pick 11. Dogs backline isn't elite, Balta would be their best key back.
2. Hopper, I am not convinced Hopper playing makes us an overly good side and not convinced we play in a GF in his peak years. Has had a good year and increased currency. Id explore options if anyone would part with a late first rounder.
Clubs who could trade for Hopper
GWS Pick 13. Giants may be interested in bringing Hopper back. I doubt Pick 13 would get the deal done. Maybe we'd have to balance this out.
Cats Pick 17. With understanding this pick is likely to be in the 20s. Cats engine room is avg on paper.
These two are not our heart and soul. They arent a Bank, Broad, Vlastuin type. Id genuinely explore the market and see if a club would be interested giving an overs pick for us paying majority of a players wage. Win - Win. Then in 2-3 years that money is freed up in our cap when our kids are of age to start a peak tilt at a finals tilt and possibly a big Free Agent signing.
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1. Yes.
2. Yes.
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Hopper & Taranto can be traded for sure.
They aren't winning a premier ship at Richmond. More to the point the club isn't winning one with them playing
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Balta the perfect example of why you don't sign players to long term contracts
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What could we get for the outside distribution king - Sonsie!
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Seth Campbell. Sell high.
Reckon he's a dud
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Vlastuin
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Balta the perfect example of why you don't sign players to long term contracts
Not really.
The curfew rubbish was always going to take its toll.
He is being played in the wrong spot.
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Seth Campbell. Sell high.
Reckon he's a dud
Agree
Shame Tassie isn't coming in next year
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I don't agree, he's one of our best and most consistent young players. If you had to trade him it would definitely be to Tassie who will pay a premium.
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Vlastuin
When you offload your better players, have to be careful not to trade out the soul. North Melbourne did this and they are stuffed. Essendon lost their soul with the drugs saga. Both been stuffed.
I think traded Vlastuin we lose some of that soul we built in the dynasty years. Same if we traded Broad or Nank. But Balta, Hopper and even TT I don't think we lose anything we can't get back in the draft.
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I don't agree, he's one of our best and most consistent young players. If you had to trade him it would definitely be to Tassie who will pay a premium.
Everyone has a price. I wouldn't trade anyone who is the heart and soul / fabric type players but Id be open to trading Seth for right price.
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Hawks traded out Mitchell, Wingard and Omeara after they accepted they were not going to be part of their next tilt. Hawks are nearly there and Mitchell is finished. Omeara is too and Wingard not playing anymore.
It'd be a bold acceptance that Hopper and TT hasn't helped us win a flag, send them somewhere else who are contending and take some draft capital. We are 2nd bottom. Not sold they are essential to keep long term. We are likely to be worse for longer but will have 2 more key players in our next rebuild instead.
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Balta the perfect example of why you don't sign players to long term contracts
I agree but that's the industry standard ATM unfortunately.
We've had two 7-year contracts now, Dusty and Lynch, and whilst I love them both the hard truth is that in their last 2+ years they weren't worth the wage, it was paid for services given prior.
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Vlastuin
When you offload your better players, have to be careful not to trade out the soul. North Melbourne did this and they are stuffed. Essendon lost their soul with the drugs saga. Both been stuffed.
I think traded Vlastuin we lose some of that soul we built in the dynasty years. Same if we traded Broad or Nank. But Balta, Hopper and even TT I don't think we lose anything we can't get back in the draft.
The guy who was made a life member today was traded after 250 games and being at the club since he was 17.
Then Richmond won 3 flags
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Vlastuin
When you offload your better players, have to be careful not to trade out the soul. North Melbourne did this and they are stuffed. Essendon lost their soul with the drugs saga. Both been stuffed.
I think traded Vlastuin we lose some of that soul we built in the dynasty years. Same if we traded Broad or Nank. But Balta, Hopper and even TT I don't think we lose anything we can't get back in the draft.
The guy who was made a life member today was traded after 250 games and being at the club since he was 17.
Then Richmond won 3 flags
True, but I'd be pretty confident in saying Lids wasn't the heart and soul of the place. I loved watching Lids and had the number 3 on my back when he was drafted but I don't think he was enormously heart and soul player. But you make a good point.
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Seth Campbell. Sell high.
Reckon he's a dud
Well seeing he only singed a 4 year contract extension a month or so back I think it reasonable to assume he isn't on the trade table
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Vlastuin
When you offload your better players, have to be careful not to trade out the soul. North Melbourne did this and they are stuffed. Essendon lost their soul with the drugs saga. Both been stuffed.
I think traded Vlastuin we lose some of that soul we built in the dynasty years. Same if we traded Broad or Nank. But Balta, Hopper and even TT I don't think we lose anything we can't get back in the draft.
The guy who was made a life member today was traded after 250 games and being at the club since he was 17.
Then Richmond won 3 flags
True, but I'd be pretty confident in saying Lids wasn't the heart and soul of the place. I loved watching Lids and had the number 3 on my back when he was drafted but I don't think he was enormously heart and soul player. But you make a good point.
I do agree outside of perhaps cotchin,
Vlastuin is the most 'heart and soul' player the club has had in the modern era
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Apparently rumors Hopper wants out.
Might be win - win
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Apparently rumors Hopper wants out.
Might be win - win
If that’s true, I’m sure the club would happily facilitate and even contribute a decent chunk from his salary. Doubt they’d ask for much in return either, maybe something like a future 2nd rounder.
Nothing against the guy, he’s had a good individual season, but don’t think any of the experienced are worth holding to contracts if they want out.
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Seth Campbell. Sell high.
Reckon he's a dud
Agree
Shame Tassie isn't coming in next year
Man I know some of you don’t like Campbell and he’s become this sorta polarising figure with some praising him and some being overly critical but to call him a dud is pretty wild.
He’s 20 years old and was a a rookie draft pickup. I’m just his second season he has finished as our leading goal kicker, playing as a small fwd in the by far lowest scoring team in the league.
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Yep , Campbell isn't the problem.
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Lmfao comparing lids to floss, trading balta Campbell.
This is the funniest thread in a while this one.
I was in the camp of trading hopper, but now I would hold him and TT for another year at least.
We need them to protect our kids coming through.
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Lmfao comparing lids to floss, trading balta Campbell.
This is the funniest thread in a while this one.
I was in the camp of trading hopper, but now I would hold him and TT for another year at least.
We need them to protect our kids coming through.
Who was the better player?
Deledio or Vlastuin?
Have a good think chuckles before answering
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Lmfao comparing lids to floss, trading balta Campbell.
This is the funniest thread in a while this one.
I was in the camp of trading hopper, but now I would hold him and TT for another year at least.
We need them to protect our kids coming through.
Why can't prestia Ross and Vlastuin protect the kids?
They are not a special needs school.
Would be mad to reject draft good draft assets for hop and tt at this stage of the rebuild
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Lmfao comparing lids to floss, trading balta Campbell.
This is the funniest thread in a while this one.
I was in the camp of trading hopper, but now I would hold him and TT for another year at least.
We need them to protect our kids coming through.
Who was the better player?
Deledio or Vlastuin?
Have a good think chuckles before answering
Prime Lids was better. People forget how seriously good he was.
And it/s nothing against Floss, who is my favourite player.
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I haven't forgotten and I don't think anyone else has. He was a very good player.
I would take Vlastuin without any question at all.
Also Lids was not a team player IMO and didn't want to hang around after the tough times. He leaves we bring in meatball and I would choose the latter as well.
Vlas on field leadership is not even in the same breath as lids.
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Vlastuin for me, any day.
Prime Lids was genuinely good AA footy though and he stuck around consistently through some genuinely crap years. About 12-13 of them IIRC.
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Vlastuin for me, any day.
Prime Lids was genuinely good AA footy though and he stuck around consistently through some genuinely crap years. About 12-13 of them IIRC.
Yep. 12 years.
And people carry on like he abandoned the club at the first sign of trouble.
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What are people thinking. We need a balance of youth and GOOD experience on game days. Next year our starting 23 will get younger when the likes of Smillie, Lalor, Hotton, McAuliffe, Algar, Faull, Armstrong, Gibcus, Brown, Trainor, Campbell, Sims, I also expect picks #2 and #3 to play most games.I would hope they give Gray a good go as well.
Lynch one more year, Taranto, Hopper, Broad only one more year ,Valstuin 32yrs, Nankervis 32yrs, Prestia 33ys if he goes around again.
Most of these blokes arent here for much longer and we need good experienced players like Hopper Taranto Balta Miller, to be there when they do go. They are the only B plus players we have in the 24 thru 28 age bracket. We simply cannot afford to lose anymore players in this bracket until some of the younger players step and become good players with 80 - 100 games behind them, and we get some mature recruits in, in the right age bracket.
Patience is the word we have just completed year 1 of what most likely will be at least a 5 year building phase.
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Standard have dropped massively.
ie its perfectly ok that Nank play a whole game and not take one mark anywhere in the ground in 2 hrs of football :help
That's just one example of permitting mediocrity. It's starts with the CEO, head of football and the coaching staff and the captain and filters throughout the whole team.
Like a virus it must be eradicated.
I don't have a lot of confidence we have anyone there that can Benny Gale or Neil Balme this joint.
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Vlastuin for me, any day.
Prime Lids was genuinely good AA footy though and he stuck around consistently through some genuinely crap years. About 12-13 of them IIRC.
Yep. 12 years.
And people carry on like he abandoned the club at the first sign of trouble.
I dont think any worse of him for going for a flag, he could have been a Patrick Cripps if he'd stayed, nobody knew.