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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on November 25, 2006, 10:47:52 AM
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Carl Petersen
Claremont 3/07/1987 182.7 69.55
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79 - SYDNEY - CARL PETERSON
Claremont, 3 July 1987, 182.7cm, 69.6kg
The Swans are understood to be very keen on Peterson and he could be a late draft prospect. The 'up-side' in youngster from Kunnunura is enormous and he could be an appealing type late in the draft with his potential. Sydney will also strongly consider local youngster Craig Bird, who could also be secured to the club under the apprenticeship scheme. Sydney cannot rookie Bird, as he is too young, but he too will be under consideration late in the draft.
Highlights/achievements: A versatile and skillful type with an outstanding vertical leap. Played finals for Claremont late in 2006.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=307324
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Could turn out the matchwinner we needed from this draft. A great selection for mine. No complaints.
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From footygoss.com
50. Carl Peterson – Impressive forward who booted five goals on debut for Claremont.
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By Courtney Walsh
The Australian
November 25, 2006
Mourish's Clontarf stablemate Carl Peterson also looms as an unusual draft story, having worked as a grave-digger in Perth this year after graduating.
Peterson, 19, from Kununurra in the Kimberley, broke into Claremont's senior side late last season and is an exciting prospect, according to AFL national talent manager Kevin Sheehan.
"He is another interesting one. His vertical leap is incredible," Sheehan said.
"He takes off on Monday and lands on Thursday. He is a wonderful athlete."
The softly spoken Peterson, who weighs 70kg, described his stint in the WAFL as an eye-opener that would force him into the gym over summer.
"There are a lot of mature bodies," he said. "They are pretty big people, so I think I'm going to have to lift a few weights."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20816536-23211,00.html
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(http://www.clontarffootball.com/img/Image/article/petersonl10.jpg)
(http://www.clontarffootball.com/img/Image/article/petersonl8.jpg)
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Clontarf Old-Boy debuts for Tigers
Category: News
Author: Simon Nimmo
clontarffootball.com
Carl Peterson made his senior debut for the Claremont Football Club on August 19th in the round 21 blockbuster against Subiaco. A tough initiation indeed for a youngster to be introduced to WAFL football via a battle for a top two position with two games to go.
However, Peterson took it all in his stride and performed admirably to finish with 12 possessions and 3 marks. Carl played in the back line and his pace and poise was as asset in the wet conditions.
Peterson has been in tremendous for in the reserves in the last month, and has played nearly every game in his first year at WAFL level. A groin injury prevented Carl from playing colts football in 2005.
“It’s a different game to reserves, there is a lot more space but you don’t have any room to make errors. I’m going to do lots of weights over the pre-season so I can play more league football.”
Carl grew up 5km out of Kununurra on his parents mango farm and credits his dad making him run to school every day for his passion to play sport. He is the first Kimberley footballer to make his league debut for the Tigers since the zone was allocated to Claremont two years ago. He will not be the last.
Peterson has been working all this year and is living at Claremont House with 4 other Kimberley boys playing in the Colts. He is a scaffolder and balances work, football and leisure better than most. He has a great attitude at training and is a great role model for younger players at the Club.
Well done Carl and Clontarf salutes you and your football endevaours in the WAFL and beyond.
http://www.clontarffootball.com/articles.php?req=read&article_id=151
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Those chicken legs need building up, otherwise he looks good in the black and yellow :thumbsup
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From Weaver's phantom draft on BF:
54. Carl Peterson – A 19 year old from country WA who was a late arrival in Perth, being invited down as part of the Clontarf Academy program. Missed most of last season with injury and OP but made an impressive 5-goal WAFL debut towards the end of the season. Despite being a year older than most and not coming through the Championship program he is unlikely to be missed. Did enough to win Claremont’s best first year player award. Could well be one who rises up the draft order and spoils many phantom drafts.
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Dont' know much about Carl ???
Presumably coming in to put the acid on Krak no doubt
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Dont' know much about Carl ???
Presumably coming in to put the acid on Krak no doubt
Both Krak and Peterson came through Clontarf football academy - www.clontarffootball.com
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Im spewing we couldnt trade Krak or Tuck for early picks. We missed out on some very handy players as a result. Players like Hawksley (one I predicted really early on) went in the 30s and there many others between 30 and 50 who would have been a real bonus.
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Another pic of Peterson:
(http://www.claremontfc.com/photos/R22/l1.JPG)
And an article on Peterson's 2nd game for Claremont in the WAFL:
EXCITING PETERSON SOARS TO GREAT HEIGHTS
Ken Casellas
claremontfc.com.au
He can leap a tall building in one mighty bound. He soars into the stratosphere like a skyrocket. He’s Claremont’s latest ebony excitement machine, the ever-smiling Carl Peterson.
Evoking memories of the mercurial Derek Kickett, the fabulous Jim Krakouer and the majestic Chris Lewis, the slender spring-heeled teenager brought untold joy to the fans at Claremont Oval on Saturday with a full range of his spectacular skills.
Revealing a remarkable vertical leap, Peterson spiralled skwards twice in the third quarter of the league match against East Perth to take a couple of breath-taking marks.
He kicked three goals in the space of 21 minutes in the third quarter and two more in the final term to help the Tigers crush East Perth by 78 points --- and all of a sudden AFL recruiting officers throughout the country were sitting up and taking notice.
Here on show was a 19-year-old super star in the making, a lad recruited by Claremont from the club’s new Kimberley zone.
This was only his second appearance in a WAFL league fixture. But even before the rookie from the Ord River Magpies in the remote north of the state had started his career with Claremont in the reserves side his potential was well known in other parts of the land.
The Sydney Swans were well aware of his latent talent and he accepted an offer to travel to Sydney to join the Swans for a couple of weeks in their pre-season training program.
He then played in a variety of positions, including the ruck, in 14 reserves matches for the Tigers before making his league debut against Subiaco at Leederville Oval in round 21 when he came in as a late replacement for the injured Michael Cousens.
He also was a late inclusion for the match against East Perth, being called into action to replace ruckman Michael Gardiner, who was struck down on Friday with a viral complaint.
On Saturday, Peterson sat on the interchange bench before getting a call to arms early in the second quarter, moving to a forward pocket where he was opposed by young Fremantle Dockers squad member Benet Copping.
And it certainly did not take long for Peterson to come under notice. He revealed wonderful composure when he was bumped and was falling to the ground as he handpassed to David Crawford, who snapped Claremont’s fifth goal.
Three minutes later, Tom Matson handpassed to Peterson, who kicked a well-weighted short pass to Anthony Jones for Claremont’s next major.
The crowd erupted when Peterson flew high to take a brilliant mark five minutes into the third quarter. This brought him the first of his handful of goals.
Shortly after that he accepted a pass from the lively Leon Wilson for his second goal, and late in the quarter defender Simon Nimmo sent the ball high towards the goalsquare. Like a coiled spring, Peterson was propelled upwards to grasp another spectacular mark. Landing like a butterfly on the petal of a spring daisy, he then went back and coolly booted his third goal for the quarter.
Details:
Claremont 22.15 (147) beat East Perth 10.9 (69).
Scorers---CLAREMONT: A. Jones 7.2; C. Peterson 5.0; D. Crawford 3.3; D. Bandy, T. Matson 1.2; R. Walton 1.1; A. Browne, T. Carlon, J. Crabb, L. Wilson 1.0; N. Chidgzey, D. Harper, M. Morton 0.1; 2 points forced.
Best---CLAREMONT: A. Browne, D. Bandy, A. Jones, R. Walton, T. Handley, M. Cousens, L. Wilson, C. Peterson, A. Taylor, M. Morton, C. Rudeforth, T. Matson.
http://www.claremontfc.com/2006/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=161
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CARL PETERSON: Draft pick No. 60
richmondfc.com.au
Recruited from: Claremont, WA
Born: 30/7/87
Height: 182cm
Weight: 69kg
An exciting Indigenous player who made enormous progress in 2006, playing 12 reserves games for Claremont and finishing the season with five senior appearances, including two WAFL finals. Was generally played off the bench at senior level, going forward or onto a wing when on the ground, but even had a burst in the ruck due to his amazing vertical leap. His best performance came in his second senior game, against East Perth, where he kicked five goals. Has been acclaimed as the best youngster to come out of the talented Clontarf football academy in Perth by renowned WA coach Gerard Neesham. He is keen to improve his strength and develop into a midfielder.
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=2006draftees
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Great to see Peterson is finally available to play. Good luck to him in the Coburg ressies.
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I don't think he will play Coburg reserves this week. He will probably join in with the main group at training if he hasn't done so already and will play the following week.
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Personally wouldn't be suprised to see him play against the Bummers this week seeing as it is dreamtime at the G :thumbsup
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Great to see Peterson is finally available to play. Good luck to him in the Coburg ressies.
No Coburg Ressies for Carl this week - state game on so no VFL games.
Following week up in Bendigo :thumbsup
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Personally wouldn't be suprised to see him play against the Bummers this week seeing as it is dreamtime at the G :thumbsup
That would be a massive call :o. Carl hasn't even played a single quarter yet this year at any level.
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Personally wouldn't be suprised to see him play against the Bummers this week seeing as it is dreamtime at the G :thumbsup
That would be a massive call :o. Carl hasn't even played a single quarter yet this year at any level.
I was referring to how plough likes to do things like this ala JON last year, a bit too subtle wasn't it :whistle
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Personally wouldn't be suprised to see him play against the Bummers this week seeing as it is dreamtime at the G :thumbsup
That would be a massive call :o. Carl hasn't even played a single quarter yet this year at any level.
I was referring to how plough likes to do things like this ala JON last year, a bit too subtle wasn't it :whistle
Yeah I knew what you meant bluey :). It would just be a unbelievably massive call even for Terry.
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Personally wouldn't be suprised to see him play against the Bummers this week seeing as it is dreamtime at the G :thumbsup
That would be a massive call :o. Carl hasn't even played a single quarter yet this year at any level.
I was referring to how plough likes to do things like this ala JON last year, a bit too subtle wasn't it :whistle
Yeah I knew what you meant bluey :). It would just be a unbelievably massive call even for Terry.
I dunno, with Wallace you never know what your gonna get :lol
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from the craig mcrae report
Carl Peterson
Again showed some very good signs. Had 21 possessions, mainly playing on a wing. Moved forward late to take a terrific pack mark and kick the goal that lifted Coburg reserves over the line against the previously undefeated Port Melbourne side.
its time he was elevated to the coburg seniors and must get a game for the tigers if he performs well there!
carl time is way over due!
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:thumbsup
The kid has springs attached to his heels, apparently can jump 2m high jump style (not sure though)
Excellent foot skills, superb athleticism and can turn a match
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I think (hope) with JON out we'll see him in the seniors this week.
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I think (hope) with JON out we'll see him in the seniors this week.
Ditto, Ryan Anderson and Connors could also be promoted. Both had impressive games as well
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Ryan Anderson should already be on Richmonds list (it was a mistake they didnt draft him) and he should be looked at as a late pick this year.
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Ando is a bit small to throw a pick at him IMHO, should of at least been rookied though
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I think (hope) with JON out we'll see him in the seniors this week.
I think you'll be shown to be right jezza. With no 12/10 rule this week and no JON, Carl must be very close as Craig McRae has continually praised his performances at VFL ressie level over the past month since he started playing after overcoming OP.
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don't see why he wasn't playing VFL sen. to start off with
Wasn't he playing WAFL seniors
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don't see why he wasn't playing VFL sen. to start off with
Wasn't he playing WAFL seniors
The story goes that he has had OP and just played through it last year. The club has taken plenty of time to get him right, he's now played 5 reserves games and would have his fitness base up and now has the form to warrant Coburg senior selection. Very sound player management IMO.
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don't see why he wasn't playing VFL sen. to start off with
Wasn't he playing WAFL seniors
The story goes that he has had OP and just played through it last year. The club has taken plenty of time to get him right, he's now played 5 reserves games and would have his fitness base up and now has the form to warrant Coburg senior selection. Very sound player management IMO.
Spot on jezza. Carl had no preseason due to the OP. IIRC he trained the first session or two when they started preseason training in late Oct/early Nov and that was it until the season started in early April. Wise to take it slowly building up his (match) fitness.
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Still not named in the seniors. >:(
Clingan on the extended bench though, I hope he gets a game as I think he needs to start playing seniors soon or be a big risk of losing his rookie spot.
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In the last quarter last week in one five minute period Carl offered on two leads and then went on two chases as Port cleared from defence. At the end of that time he was down on his haunches blowing very very hard. He's not fit yet. Given his virtual non pre-season getting 21 possessions off a negligible fitness base tells me lots. Let him stay in the ressies and build his fitness and confidence.
As for Tas. A certain Dean Polo played nearly an entire season for Coburg reserves as well. I would hope that Tas is safe for a second year.
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In the last quarter last week in one five minute period Carl offered on two leads and then went on two chases as Port cleared from defence. At the end of that time he was down on his haunches blowing very very hard. He's not fit yet. Given his virtual non pre-season getting 21 possessions off a negligible fitness base tells me lots. Let him stay in the ressies and build his fitness and confidence.
Cheers HKT. I think we're all getting our hopes up by what's written about Carl in EOTT.
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Carl Peterson
Carl’s come from a background where he had osteitis pubis and did not realise he had it. He’s pretty much played with the groin injury for the last two years, so he missed a lot of the season recovering from that. Carl played the last six to eight games at reserve level and did some really exciting things. Now what he’s got to realise is he has to become an elite sportsman as, at the moment, he’s convinced he’s playing back home.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Carl Peterson
Carl’s come from a background where he had osteitis pubis and did not realise he had it. He’s pretty much played with the groin injury for the last two years, so he missed a lot of the season recovering from that. Carl played the last six to eight games at reserve level and did some really exciting things. Now what he’s got to realise is he has to become an elite sportsman as, at the moment, he’s convinced he’s playing back home.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
Interesting. Does he have the motivation to make it?
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Carl Peterson
Carl’s come from a background where he had osteitis pubis and did not realise he had it. He’s pretty much played with the groin injury for the last two years, so he missed a lot of the season recovering from that. Carl played the last six to eight games at reserve level and did some really exciting things. Now what he’s got to realise is he has to become an elite sportsman as, at the moment, he’s convinced he’s playing back home.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
Interesting. Does he have the motivation to make it?
Sounds to me like he's young. I'd give him a bit more time before making a call like that, he was always speculative after all.
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who is he ;D someone else we drafted that has been injured & never got anything out of him even at lower level
is he any good what has he acheived before comming to Tigerland ???
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Carl Peterson
Carl’s come from a background where he had osteitis pubis and did not realise he had it. He’s pretty much played with the groin injury for the last two years, so he missed a lot of the season recovering from that. Carl played the last six to eight games at reserve level and did some really exciting things. Now what he’s got to realise is he has to become an elite sportsman as, at the moment, he’s convinced he’s playing back home.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
Interesting. Does he have the motivation to make it?
Sounds to me like he's young. I'd give him a bit more time before making a call like that, he was always speculative after all.
Thats why it was a question. :)
He was what? Pick 70ish last year. Freak jumper who had O.P. for most of the year. Apparently got a bit side-tracked towards the end of the year. Will get his one more token year but as a pick 70ish he wont get the nicer, patient treatment JoN gets.
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l aint been nice to Jokely JON he is a wasted space
Pick 70 could turn into a top footballer
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l aint been nice to Jokely JON he is a wasted space
Pick 70 could turn into a top footballer
Haha no but the club has.
No doubt pick 70 could but history syas less chance.
But then again recent RFC history might suggest otherwise.
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Carl Peterson
Carl’s come from a background where he had osteitis pubis and did not realise he had it. He’s pretty much played with the groin injury for the last two years, so he missed a lot of the season recovering from that. Carl played the last six to eight games at reserve level and did some really exciting things. Now what he’s got to realise is he has to become an elite sportsman as, at the moment, he’s convinced he’s playing back home.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52550
Interesting. Does he have the motivation to make it?
Sounds to me like he's young. I'd give him a bit more time before making a call like that, he was always speculative after all.
Thats why it was a question. :)
He was what? Pick 70ish last year. Freak jumper who had O.P. for most of the year. Apparently got a bit side-tracked towards the end of the year. Will get his one more token year but as a pick 70ish he wont get the nicer, patient treatment JoN gets.
That's cool. Consider my post my answer to that question. :)
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This was only Peterson's first year and he didn't have a preseason due to the OP. He actually has footy skills and his arms don't look like twigs.
He played a few Coburg ressie games towards the end of the season and pretty much collected 20 possies and kicked a few goals in most of them. He just now needs a few preseasons to get his fitness up.
Tigermonk, Peterson is out of the Clontarf football academy in WA and attracted AFL recruiter's interest by kicking 5 goals for Claremont on debut as well as playing in the ruck with his huge leap.
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peterson and jon will make it, mark my words. they just need that lil extra time to develop, not every player is a deledio, or murphy, or selwood. some take longer. look at varcoe, been in the system a few yrs now also, still cant cement a spot but is showing good steady improvement, but for a high draft pick, he does not get the flack that jon , blingers and peterson get.
they will shut all their critics up with 2 yrs
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Peterson will hopefully work out well, as for JON ::) ::)
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peterson and jon will make it, mark my words. they just need that lil extra time to develop, not every player is a deledio, or murphy, or selwood. some take longer. look at varcoe, been in the system a few yrs now also, still cant cement a spot but is showing good steady improvement, but for a high draft pick, he does not get the flack that jon , blingers and peterson get.
they will shut all their critics up with 2 yrs
How many more years does Krak need X?
Hope you're right I really really do.
I think you will be with Bling, have not seen enough of the others.
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lets hope the dismay on this thread is similar to the result of all the Foley threads that appeared a few years back.
Too small, too skinny, too slow, cant kick........... ring any bells people?
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lets hope the dismay on this thread is similar to the result of all the Foley threads that appeared a few years back.
Too small, too skinny, too slow, cant kick........... ring any bells people?
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
i thought the offseason was when all hope was reborn, with feral richmond supporters i guess not ::)
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peterson and jon will make it, mark my words. they just need that lil extra time to develop, not every player is a deledio, or murphy, or selwood. some take longer. look at varcoe, been in the system a few yrs now also, still cant cement a spot but is showing good steady improvement, but for a high draft pick, he does not get the flack that jon , blingers and peterson get.
they will shut all their critics up with 2 yrs
X you got to let yourself detach from Jokely JON :lol ;D
what l seen of him in recent games was a shocking footballer he be lucky to survive
Peterson l remember now since MT said Claremont its just pity the tigers over there cant win them GF's ;D
l hear today Prescott will join Knights at Essendon
l really like to see what Prescott has to offer with his coaching l know his done fairly well in WA
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lets hope the dismay on this thread is similar to the result of all the Foley threads that appeared a few years back.
Too small, too skinny, too slow, cant kick........... ring any bells people?
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
i thought the offseason was when all hope was reborn, with feral richmond supporters i guess not ::)
sorry Bluey l know l gone real feral lately
l give you a break when l go to America soon ;D
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lets hope the dismay on this thread is similar to the result of all the Foley threads that appeared a few years back.
Too small, too skinny, too slow, cant kick........... ring any bells people?
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
i thought the offseason was when all hope was reborn, with feral richmond supporters i guess not ::)
sorry Bluey l know l gone real feral lately
l give you a break when l go to America soon ;D
i'm logging off for a while for my exams anyway so it doesn't matter :lol
anyway hope u have a good trip to idiotland i mean america ;D :thumbsup
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:lol :lol :lol :thumbsup
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lets hope the dismay on this thread is similar to the result of all the Foley threads that appeared a few years back.
Too small, too skinny, too slow, cant kick........... ring any bells people?
:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
i thought the offseason was when all hope was reborn, with feral richmond supporters i guess not ::)
sorry Bluey l know l gone real feral lately
l give you a break when l go to America soon ;D
i'm logging off for a while for my exams anyway so it doesn't matter :lol
anyway hope u have a good trip to idiotland i mean america ;D :thumbsup
goodluck bluey
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i'm logging off for a while for my exams anyway so it doesn't matter :lol
goodluck bluey
Ditto. All the best with your Year 12 exams bluey :thumbsup
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Cheers MT and X :cheers
i'll try and salvage something for the good ol' Tiges :thumbsup
99+ here I come (i hope :pray :lol)
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I have a feeling that Carl wont be at the RFC next year :shh
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
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If I put one of these :shh in my post will you believe everything I say too?
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
... he says in hindsight
if you had said this before the draft it would have some credibility ::)
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So is this "Peterson gone" actually based on anything factual or just people misreading what Royal said ::).
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If I put one of these :shh in my post will you believe everything I say too?
Its up to you to believe it or not.
MT, my mail is that Peterson wont be back at the RFC in 08.
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... he says in hindsight
if you had said this before the draft it would have some credibility ::)
And there was every chance to say something at the time as Westhoff's name was mentioned on OER 2 months before last year's draft.
In any case we picked up Connors at 58 as well as Edwards at 26 who both showed more in their first year than most of their peers selected around their respective picks.
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If I put one of these :shh in my post will you believe everything I say too?
Its up to you to believe it or not.
MT, my mail is that Peterson wont be back at the RFC in 08.
Not having a go at you Bully as you're just passing on your mail but don't all new draftees get a 2-year contract? Even Limbach who didn't get close to playing a game was at Punt Rd for 2 years.
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If I put one of these :shh in my post will you believe everything I say too?
Its up to you to believe it or not.
MT, my mail is that Peterson wont be back at the RFC in 08.
Okay, I just read your PM.
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
... he says in hindsight
if you had said this before the draft it would have some credibility ::)
I am not the one being paid to make incorrect decisions.
Dont ever defend our recruiting as it has been extremely poor and still is
Just jolt the memory , Meyer, JON and Kent Kingsley.
And I will say now, Jordon McMahon isnt worth $175,000 a year let alone $330,000 a year and an extra $20,000 thrown in for top five in B&F ;)
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Bluey wasn't defending our recruiting. He's just saying that to claim we should have gone after one of three players 12 months after they were drafted is an easy thing to state now. Edwards had played for the Eagles and kicked 100 goals in the VFL last year. You didn't need to be paid to have seen him play before this year and say we should pick him up late in the draft.
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I have a feeling that Carl wont be at the RFC next year :shh
Go and have a long talk to your Sauce about reliability. :rollin
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I am not the one being paid to make incorrect decisions.
Dont ever defend our recruiting as it has been extremely poor and still is
Just jolt the memory , Meyer, JON and Kent Kingsley.
And I will say now, Jordon McMahon isnt worth $175,000 a year let alone $330,000 a year and an extra $20,000 thrown in for top five in B&F ;)
Jackstar, did you ever rate JON?
Predictions for 2007
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Who will show most improvement - JON
Was this a hopeful prediction or do you actually see talent there.
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Well Carl has survived the first cut.
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Well Carl has survived the first cut.
They probably can't find him to tell him :lol
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Well Carl has survived the first cut.
They probably can't find him to tell him :lol
Can someone give me some information on this please?
I am even further confused as Carl went to Brisbane with Terry and Tambo in trade week.
Anyone?
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has to be all bs in my opinion
by the way m anyone mention westoff again i will go sick
for starters westoff was older when drafted
if we drafted him, the same ppl praising westoff now would say, why teh f did we get another skinny kid!
and also , good players dont go missing when it counts, westoff didnt even show up on grandfinal day, that was his sister in the port team!
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There is a post from a reliable poster on PRE saying Peterson will be delisted. I'm sure you are reliable too Bull and I wasn't saying you were wrong in my other post BTW :shh ( ;D). If this rumour proves true I will be disappointed, since Peterson sounds like an excitement machine and everyone loves an excitement machine.
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Well Carl has survived the first cut.
They probably can't find him to tell him :lol
Can someone give me some information on this please?
I am even further confused as Carl went to Brisbane with Terry and Tambo in trade week.
Anyone?
I don't know anything, I have just read stuff on other sites.
CP finds himself at the same spot Limbach did 12 months ago.
Sadly, no certainty to be in yellow and black in '08.
Saved by a weak draft (at this stage) but he has been told where he stands.
Instead of where's Wally maybe there should be a 'where's Carl' publication... true?
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There is a post from a reliable poster on PRE saying Peterson will be delisted. I'm sure you are reliable too Bull and I wasn't saying you were wrong in my other post BTW :shh ( ;D). If this rumour proves true I will be disappointed, since Peterson sounds like an excitement machine and everyone loves an excitement machine.
Interesting. But I dont see why.
Carl went to Brisbane to meet Rhan Hooper. *Tick*
Carl was at the indigenous announcement. *Tick*
Seems like a whole lot of nothing to me if he's doing these type of things for the club and then today Krak goes and he did none of it . . . . .
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There's still two more list lodgements to go (Nov 16th and 30th) so we'll eventually find out by then.
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Jackstar, did you ever rate JON?
Predictions for 2007
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Who will show most improvement - JON
Was this a hopeful prediction or do you actually see talent there.
No, i never did. The ""powers of be"" at Punt road rated him , i dont
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Speaking of delisting draftees after just one year, Freo have delisted two of them - Collard (31) and Mourish (77). Caleb Mourish was that kid from rural WA who was rumoured last year we were trying to hide away.
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Depending on who is available at our draft selections will more than likely seal Peterson's fate.
I hope that he gets another chance, because he is exciting.
The new addition of the player welfare/support officer will be something that Carl could really benefit from.
Steven Wright mentioned it the morning that he has short listed and wants the person to be started by the time the players are back.
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This is so confusing.
What has he done wrong?
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Speaking of delisting draftees after just one year, Freo have delisted two of them - Collard (31) and Mourish (77). Caleb Mourish was that kid from rural WA who was rumoured last year we were trying to hide away.
if true then go hunt him down miller. this kid is seriously talented. Unlucky not to go 1st round
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Speaking of delisting draftees after just one year, Freo have delisted two of them - Collard (31) and Mourish (77). Caleb Mourish was that kid from rural WA who was rumoured last year we were trying to hide away.
if true then go hunt him down miller. this kid is seriously talented. Unlucky not to go 1st round
Freo want to rookie list one of them (their salary them counts outside the salary cap).
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Speaking of delisting draftees after just one year, Freo have delisted two of them - Collard (31) and Mourish (77). Caleb Mourish was that kid from rural WA who was rumoured last year we were trying to hide away.
Some phantom drafts had us picking up Mourish at number 8 ::)
Let's all point and laugh at Freo! :lol
Another super draft, they traded away picks for Tarrant, two players have already been delisted. We might be bad at drafting, but we're not 'Freo' bad.
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Sounds as though Carl might be close to getting booted...
Carl's attitude has been far from that required.
He has a major injury to his arm from being pushed through a window at a nightclub just after the season finished. Whether he is able to play footy again remains to be seen.
He was demoted to the rookie list last week after failing to turn up to the first training session on Thursday and is in serious consideration to be delisted, depending on how he goes on the bushwacking camp starting today.
Even his indigenous mates are worried about him.
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Sounds as though Carl might be close to getting booted...
Carl's attitude has been far from that required.
He has a major injury to his arm from being pushed through a window at a nightclub just after the season finished. Whether he is able to play footy again remains to be seen.
He was demoted to the rookie list last week after failing to turn up to the first training session on Thursday and is in serious consideration to be delisted, depending on how he goes on the bushwacking camp starting today.
Even his indigenous mates are worried about him.
This info makes things a bit clearer. Nice to have the entire story if this is the entire story. I hope Carl hasn't done too much damage to himself and it would be nice if he could get his attitude right. He sound freakish but maybe he just doesn't have what it takes mentally to be successful. You wonder why some kids bother nominating for the draft if they don't have the drive to put the effort in once given the opportunity. Fingers crossed.
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Sounds as though Carl might be close to getting booted...
Carl's attitude has been far from that required.
He has a major injury to his arm from being pushed through a window at a nightclub just after the season finished. Whether he is able to play footy again remains to be seen.
He was demoted to the rookie list last week after failing to turn up to the first training session on Thursday and is in serious consideration to be delisted, depending on how he goes on the bushwacking camp starting today.
Even his indigenous mates are worried about him.
serious flaw in his story. you can't just demote a player to the rookie list
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serious flaw in his story. you can't just demote a player to the rookie list
Someone else raised that point. I think the arm injury is real though.
His arm is not broken but severely cut with some nerve damage.
Not sure how he's responding to treatment but things weren't looking too good at the time.
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serious flaw in his story. you can't just demote a player to the rookie list
Someone else raised that point. I think the arm injury is real though.
His arm is not broken but severely cut with some nerve damage.
Not sure how he's responding to treatment but things weren't looking too good at the time.
Yes the arm injury is. It happened a while ago now and he attempted to repay Terry by going on a flight to Brisbane to speak to Rhan Hooper and a few other things. I just hope he gets back on the right track because he seemed like a good bloke. :-\
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Speaking of delisting draftees after just one year, Freo have delisted two of them - Collard (31) and Mourish (77). Caleb Mourish was that kid from rural WA who was rumoured last year we were trying to hide away.
Some phantom drafts had us picking up Mourish at number 8 ::)
Let's all point and laugh at Freo! :lol
Another super draft, they traded away picks for Tarrant, two players have already been delisted. We might be bad at drafting, but we're not 'Freo' bad.
that id have to agree with
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Carl is gone.
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=208&newsId=52893
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MT, my mail is that Peterson wont be back at the RFC in 08.
Bully was right and first with the news it seems. A sad waste :(.
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Damn. :(
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Another waste of talent at the Tigers. A sad sad waste. :banghead
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He could still end up on our rookie list as Howat could. We have to pay Peterson's 2nd year anyway.
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
BUMP! Another RFC stuff up! He was never ever going to make it!
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BUMP! Another RFC stuff up! He was never ever going to make it!
If he was our number 13 pick i'd be upset, but you have to expect 1 or 2 casualties per draft.
It looks as though we may have 2-3 or even 4 players (Collins has big wraps but i'm yet to see him play) from last years draft. That's a good strike rate.
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
BUMP! Another RFC stuff up! He was never ever going to make it!
oh jack, you are a pee-er at the moment ;)
you seem to revel at any bad news coming out of the tigers
On the one hand you say the team is full of light weight duds, on the other they turn over 10 players, yet still you sink the boots in.
What a disgruntled ex-employee you are. I know for a fact the rfc, are very happy to see the back of you, and yor disruptive ways. Just like peterson you have a bad attitude, and just like peterson, you were delisted.
You are sounding more and more like david clayton every day, and that, is not a compliment at all.
Your not a bad bloke, but you just werent good enough, let it go and move on
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Thank you Blaisee, you are a good bloke too :thumbsup
Can tell you I am happy not being there :thumbsup
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
BUMP! Another RFC stuff up! He was never ever going to make it!
on and on he goes........
will he ever stop?
Nobody knows
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but what Jacko just said is correct Gordon. Goldsack Westoff and Edwards all went after Petersen.
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but what Jacko just said is correct Gordon. Goldsack Westoff and Edwards all went after Petersen.
I was referring to his comments after the word "bump", and his comments in general.
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Well Ramps, its called the roulette wheel of the AFL draft system. I bet there were a few others picked before and after Peterson that have shown nothing.
I reckon out of every national draft there would probably be only 10-15 players at the most that actually go on and become good players for their respective clubs so out of 80+ pics, that means we have a ratio of one good player for every seven or eight picked.
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another wasted selection Pick 60 in 2006 national draft.
Pick 63 was Tyson Goldsack.
Pick 71 was Justin Westdoff
82 was Aaron edwards
Carl gone without playing a game ::)
BUMP! Another RFC stuff up! He was never ever going to make it!
oh here we go, "never gonna make it" so you are stating that Frank doesnt know what he is doing...mmm enlightning, strange that the swans were keen also on him.
its easy to stick the boot in after the fact, bit repetitive after the first 1000 times, im sure we will see lots of these over the coming months even if we do surprise next year.
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Well Ramps, its called the roulette wheel of the AFL draft system. I bet there were a few others picked before and after Peterson that have shown nothing.
I reckon out of every national draft there would probably be only 10-15 players at the most that actually go on and become good players for their respective clubs so out of 80+ pics, that means we have a ratio of one good player for every seven or eight picked.
true as it maybe but the tell me outside of foley who was a rookie, who has actually set the world on fire out of our mid range picks.
we dont spend enough in this area and it really shows. other teams are paying guys to travel around australia and the world to search for talent and we are paying guys to search no further than springvale for players.
all i ask is to give me one gun that we pick up after pick 60 that can actually play and is a champion. just one. i look at other teams and they are so far superior in this area its not funny
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have any of you posters actually seen him play ?.
Answer NO ? YES ?
I actually seen him play in Perth, yes for Claremont.
Not up to AFL level but the tiges took a gamble and it backfired
End of my argument
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have any of you posters actually seen him play ?.
Answer NO ? YES ?
I actually seen him play in Perth, yes for Claremont.
Not up to AFL level but the tiges took a gamble and it backfired
End of my argument
More didn't payoff rather than backfired when it's a late pick. And yes I've seen Carl play.
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Well Ramps, its called the roulette wheel of the AFL draft system. I bet there were a few others picked before and after Peterson that have shown nothing.
I reckon out of every national draft there would probably be only 10-15 players at the most that actually go on and become good players for their respective clubs so out of 80+ pics, that means we have a ratio of one good player for every seven or eight picked.
true as it maybe but the tell me outside of foley who was a rookie, who has actually set the world on fire out of our mid range picks.
we dont spend enough in this area and it really shows. other teams are paying guys to travel around australia and the world to search for talent and we are paying guys to search no further than springvale for players.
all i ask is to give me one gun that we pick up after pick 60 that can actually play and is a champion. just one. i look at other teams and they are so far superior in this area its not funny
Agree we didn't/don't spend enough on recruiting (hopefully that's starting to change for 2008 as the club has said it is putting more dollars towards recruiting) but finishing ninth nearly every year and trading away picks instead of trading for picks killed us. Things like having just pick 33 in the top 60 of the 2001 superdraft. We also totally ignored rookies as a means to find late developers.
As for latest selections:
Newman was pick 53.
Thursty a rookie as was Kingy.
Raines #76.
Tuck #73
Tivs was a rookie.
Jackson #53.
Connors #58.
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sorry i have been away, but yesterday richo, yes richo, rang me twice. sorry julz i forgot to say hello to him for you :P
anyway he was at a function yesterday,and my cousin happened to be there . from the background noise i gathered it was going off.
anyway my cousin was rubbing shoulders with many past and present afl players amd other sports celebs and they had one or two by the time they called me.
anyway to cut a long story short, i asked richo about carl, and he told me that carl needs more time to develop and he also told me that he is aware that the rfc want to place carl on the rookie list
now seeming though carl has already been on a senior list , im not sure hopw this is possible, but hey rama was put on as a rookie
anyway just thought i would let you guys/gals know what the cho told me.
ps i did ask him if he kicks straighter when he has had a few and he just laughed it off
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I have a football signed by JON and carl P.
Is it worth more or less now he has been delisted?
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and does anybody care?
:thumbsup
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I'll give you a few scenarios 1965.
a) Mount it if you have a bar in your house with any other Richmond memorabilia you might have.
b) Lock it away in a wardrobe and forget about it
c) Let the kids play with it
Unless these boys kick on to become icons of the game whether at Richmond in JON'S case or any other AFL Club I think your signed footy may have more sentimental value than monetary value.
1965 at this time of the morning after a night of the cas I cared enough to post. There's your answer. Hope you found it engrossing and eye opening. :thumbsup
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Betcha didn't tell Richo how much you've bagged him this season and wanted him delisted.
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Betcha didn't tell Richo how much you've bagged him this season and wanted him delisted.
The Cho vs X :shh :lol
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LOL at spotting the woodchucks on this board cause i doubt any more "senior supporters" could relate to RICHO as "THE CHO"!
Sounds like the results of a wanky schmanky brainstorm at Clemenger!
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Quite honestly, I'm upset. Having heard raved reviews on Peterson, on how he rucked against Seaby in the WAFL, on how he had an extraordinary leap, and being some sort of 'X' Factor :lol, I'm dissapointed that he's been delisted. There are a few on here, saying that he wasn't up to AFL standard, aaahhhhhhh it's so easy making the statement now after he has been delisted. I was just wondering whether these same people made that call when we drafted Peterson? I don't think so!
Let he who made that prediction when we drafted him cast the first stone....................................I can't hear anything! :yawn
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I thought he'd been injured half the time he was here.
Hardly had a chance :banghead
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
i'd like to throw him a lifeline through the rookie draft
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
i'd like to throw him a lifeline through the rookie draft
Me too provided he hasn't done any permenant damage to his hand. We have to pay him anyway.
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
richo told me the tigers want to rookie him cos he needs more time
but can a player who has been on an afl list be rookied?
wasnt pods unabled to be rookied cos he was on the skunks list for a year ???
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
richo told me the tigers want to rookie him cos he needs more time
but can a player who has been on an afl list be rookied?
wasnt pods unabled to be rookied cos he was on the skunks list for a year ???
That rule is only for mature rookies. Pods was too old (older than 22/23) to qualify as a normal young rookie.
Provided Peterson is under 23 by the 1st January (which he obviously is) then any club can rookie him. If the Hawks or any other club are interested then we'd need to take him with our first rookie pick if we wanted to keep him. The payoff on that though is we may then miss out on the best kid who didn't get picked up in the National draft. Maybe that's why we are thinking of using our PSD pick on a kid so we don't miss out. Like a pseudo rookie pick which is what we did with Matty White.
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
richo told me the tigers want to rookie him cos he needs more time
but can a player who has been on an afl list be rookied?
wasnt pods unabled to be rookied cos he was on the skunks list for a year ???
That rule is only for mature rookies. Pods was too old (older than 22/23) to qualify as a normal young rookie.
Provided Peterson is under 23 by the 1st January (which he obviously is) then any club can rookie him. If the Hawks or any other club are interested then we'd need to take him with our first rookie pick if we wanted to keep him. The payoff on that though is we may then miss out on the best kid who didn't get picked up in the National draft. Maybe that's why we are thinking of using our PSD pick on a kid so we don't miss out. Like a pseudo rookie pick which is what we did with Matty White.
QUESTION for you mt
i thought all draftees were put on a 2 yr contract, if so , why is it that carl has been delisted after 1 yr, and does this mean we have to pay him out for his second yr?
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Cut out the personal crap ::) :banghead
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Brian Royal gave a hint in his review of Peterson when he said Carl needed to realise he was in the AFL now and not back home.
There's a rumour on the Hawk's BF board that Carl will train with them to be picked up as a rookie.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9399822&postcount=11
richo told me the tigers want to rookie him cos he needs more time
but can a player who has been on an afl list be rookied?
wasnt pods unabled to be rookied cos he was on the skunks list for a year ???
That rule is only for mature rookies. Pods was too old (older than 22/23) to qualify as a normal young rookie.
Provided Peterson is under 23 by the 1st January (which he obviously is) then any club can rookie him. If the Hawks or any other club are interested then we'd need to take him with our first rookie pick if we wanted to keep him. The payoff on that though is we may then miss out on the best kid who didn't get picked up in the National draft. Maybe that's why we are thinking of using our PSD pick on a kid so we don't miss out. Like a pseudo rookie pick which is what we did with Matty White.
QUESTION for you mt
i thought all draftees were put on a 2 yr contract, if so , why is it that carl has been delisted after 1 yr, and does this mean we have to pay him out for his second yr?
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Yep I believe we have to pay him out and his 2008 salary counts towards our 2008 salary cap if he is gone for good. If he is made a rookie instead next year, he is paid according to the 2nd year of his contract (i.e. he wouldn't drop down to a rookie's salary until the existing contract expires). I think that's how it works.
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cheers
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Ps - WHY CONTINUALLY DELETE MY POSTS THAT CONFRONT THE IDIOT?
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Ps - WHY CONTINUALLY DELETE MY POSTS THAT CONFRONT THE IDIOT?
Because it had nothing to do with the topic and personal slanging matches are against the site's guidelines. I've deleted all posts (not just yours Ox) in this thread that had nothing to do with Peterson. If anyone has a problem with another poster's post(s) then report it. Ps. Check your PMs.
Anyway back to the topic.
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You might find that any chance of Carl being placed on the rookie list are now all over.
Its a shame Carl couldnt adjust his lifestyle to that of an AFL footballer.
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What's he done?
Not attending training?
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You might find that any chance of Carl being placed on the rookie list are now all over.
Its a shame Carl couldnt adjust his lifestyle to that of an AFL footballer.
That's sad and a waste of natural talent :(. Without saying too much Bully is this due to his hand not fully recovering or something new?
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I dont know the status of his hand only that he has not stayed within the guidelines that were set out to him when asked back to train.
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I dont know the status of his hand only that he has not stayed within the guidelines that were set out to him when asked back to train.
Thanks Bully. The same thing happened with Alex Gilmour but at least this time it only cost us a late speculative pick. As I said it's a sad waste of talent.
I'd guess now it makes the choice of rookies simpler for the Club. Possibly Howat if he isn't picked up in the National draft or PSD, Silvester apparently has been told we're picking him up according to BF, and the final two spots will be out of Gazzo, Horne, Pfeiffer and McKinnon.
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That's now 3 indigenous players drafted last year that have been delisted.
Do you think the AFL may investigate why this has happened?
If we had the indigenous academy already set-up, could Carl have been saved?
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That's now 3 indigenous players drafted last year that have been delisted.
Do you think the AFL may investigate why this has happened?
If we had the indigenous academy already set-up, could Carl have been saved?
There were 71 indigenous players on AFL lists this year. Losing 3 isn't really alot. Carl by the sound of it was given a second chance but like Gilmour didn't take it.
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I dont know the status of his hand only that he has not stayed within the guidelines that were set out to him when asked back to train.
Peterson is no longer training with us according to the AFL site.
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Great specky on Almost Football Legends. Too bad he didn't have the mindset and commitment for AFL footy.
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Great specky on Almost Football Legends. Too bad he didn't have the mindset and commitment for AFL footy.
Well said. :thumbsup
I had a thread about to be posted but I decided it wasnt worth it due to how I said it. :rollin But yes, the "mindset." :)
Terrific mark, best of luck to the lad. :clapping
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Is playing at Aberfeldie in The Essendon District .
Dean Rioli is assistant coach there. He got Carl back from Darwin to play
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Click on the Almost Footy Legends screen shot.
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&tab=s166
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What a mark!!!
Mightytiges...did you see him train last year...and if so...what was he like? In your view, was the club right in cutting him after only 1 year (I know it is pretty exceptional to do so, and I think they needed special permission from the AFL players association to break his 2 year contract)?
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What a mark!!!
Mightytiges...did you see him train last year...and if so...what was he like? In your view, was the club right in cutting him after only 1 year (I know it is pretty exceptional to do so, and I think they needed special permission from the AFL players association to break his 2 year contract)?
It wasnt his form on the field that led Peterson to being delisted after one year. I saw him play once at Aurora stadium and he looked bloody good that day. :'(
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SEN had Clarkson saying Carl will be playing for the Hawks in round 1 this weekend.
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Carl Peterson's journey ends in a dream
* Glenn McFarlane
* From: Sunday Herald Sun
* March 27, 2010 9:34PM
"I grew up north in the Kimberleys and moved to Perth to go to school and to better my footy opportunities. I went to Richmond (after being drafted in 2006), but I was a bit young and probably did a few things that I shouldn't have. I probably got better support at Hawthorn.
"Clarko was more than happy to give me another chance, and it has paid off for me. I thank him for having a lot of faith."
As if Thursday night's loss to Carlton was not bad enough for Tiger fans, they must have been shattered seeing the player they had drafted at pick 60 in 2006 running around and doing so well in the brown and gold.
He said he had received better support at Waverley than elsewhere but acknowledged that he probably made a few mistakes in his initial, unsuccessful shot at an AFL career.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carl-petersons-journey-ends-in-a-dream/story-e6frf9jf-1225846383861
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Of course he would receive better support at Hawthorn
They aint got much idea at Punt Road.
Interesting to watch Andrew Raines play tonight as well
Looked good !
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Of course he would receive better support at Hawthorn
They aint got much idea at Punt Road.
Interesting to watch Andrew Raines play tonight as well
Looked good !
hehe raines. He was smashed by ebert absolutely smashed, you have no idea as usual jack :scream
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Jack, Raines was terrible. He turned it over so many times tonight.
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Of course he would receive better support at Hawthorn
They aint got much idea at Punt Road.
Interesting to watch Andrew Raines play tonight as well
Looked good !
hehe raines. He was smashed by ebert absolutely smashed, you have no idea as usual jack :scream
After half time, he improved out of sight.
At least he will play finals football this year, something he would not have done at punt road.
No doubt he will get better with each game
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Heard Petersen was doing OK so flipped over and watched the 3rd qtr. Only seen Peterson get one handball which he handballed directly to a Dee player.
I suppose the other three quarters may have been different.
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
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Heard Petersen was doing OK so flipped over and watched the 3rd qtr. Only seen Peterson get one handball which he handballed directly to a Dee player.
I suppose the other three quarters may have been different.
Peterson was good, pity we couldnt get the best out of him
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Heard Petersen was doing OK so flipped over and watched the 3rd qtr. Only seen Peterson get one handball which he handballed directly to a Dee player.
I suppose the other three quarters may have been different.
Peterson was good, pity we couldnt get the best out of him
And he couldn't get the best out of himself and should hold himself accountable, not the club.
The Richmond support staff of 2007 certainly wouldn't be the the Hawks support staff of today but you also can't blame the Richmond staff for him drinking the nights away and getting into fights at pubs and falling through windows.
It was clear since he wasn't picked up straight away initially no clubs rated his natural talent beating his off-field stuff ups and it took him a couple of years in the country to again convince a team he was worth another go.
No indictment on Richmond at all here.
And from what I saw of Raines last night, I'll take our draft pick happily still, thanks.
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two things
Raines will play finals footy this year( barring injury )
And no doubt Hawthorn had Peterson "'hidden away "" last year by playing at Aberfeldie in the Esendon District.
No coincedence that Aberfeldie is where the Hawks assistant coach Ross Smith played his junior footy and later coached.
I actually thought Raines was okay after half time last night.
At least he got more of the ball than Chris Newman ::)
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Just on Raines.
Club instructed Rawlings not to play him in the latter half of last year.
Raines and Rawlings get on okay .
Rawlings and McCrae goes to Brisbane and so does Raines.
All reports everything is good with Raines at Brisbane.
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Who cares if he'll be playing finals footy? Raph Clarke played in the Grand Final. Does that make him a good player? Mark Seaby played in a winning Grand Final. Does that make him a good player?
You say "he will get better with each game". How about you have this kind of patience with OUR trades. You threw Thomson under the bus after his first game.
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Heard Petersen was doing OK so flipped over and watched the 3rd qtr. Only seen Peterson get one handball which he handballed directly to a Dee player.
I suppose the other three quarters may have been different.
Peterson was good, pity we couldnt get the best out of him
And he couldn't get the best out of himself and should hold himself accountable, not the club.
The Richmond support staff of 2007 certainly wouldn't be the the Hawks support staff of today but you also can't blame the Richmond staff for him drinking the nights away and getting into fights at pubs and falling through windows.
It was clear since he wasn't picked up straight away initially no clubs rated his natural talent beating his off-field eff ups and it took him a couple of years in the country to again convince a team he was worth another go.
No indictment on Richmond at all here.
And from what I saw of Raines last night, I'll take our draft pick happily still, thanks.
x 2 :thumbsup
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Who cares if he'll be playing finals footy? Raph Clarke played in the Grand Final. Does that make him a good player? Mark Seaby played in a winning Grand Final. Does that make him a good player?
You say "he will get better with each game". How about you have this kind of patience with OUR trades. You threw Thomson under the bus after his first game.
x 3, c'mon Jack you were one of the ones that wanted him gone, along with every other player on our list for that matter.. ::).
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Who cares if he'll be playing finals footy? Raph Clarke played in the Grand Final. Does that make him a good player? Mark Seaby played in a winning Grand Final. Does that make him a good player?
You say "he will get better with each game". How about you have this kind of patience with OUR trades. You threw Thomson under the bus after his first game.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
Thomson was there last year and cant play.
Raines was RUNNER UP in the rising star 2-3 years ago.- and CAN PLAY
Oh , how alot of you on here have bad memories, I should I say selective memories ::)
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Who cares if he'll be playing finals footy? Raph Clarke played in the Grand Final. Does that make him a good player? Mark Seaby played in a winning Grand Final. Does that make him a good player?
You say "he will get better with each game". How about you have this kind of patience with OUR trades. You threw Thomson under the bus after his first game.
x 3, c'mon Jack you were one of the ones that wanted him gone, along with every other player on our list for that matter.. ::).
Yep, Runner up in the rising star and one bad year and they burn him.
::).
If Dustin Martin is runner up in 2010 and has a bad year in 2011, you want to burn him as well.
keep in mind they kept Shulz for 6 years and Patterson for 3 :o
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Raines is a spud
LMFAO at Jackstar being his biggest fan just so he can have another swipe at the Tiges
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Raines is a spud
LMFAO at Jackstar being his biggest fan just so he can have another swipe at the Tiges
No not at all.
Can tell you all that Voss loves him
Now back to the topic, Petersen.
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OK Peterson's a spud
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LMFAO at Jackstar being his biggest fan just so he can have another swipe at the Tiges
:thumbsup
:rollin
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OK Peterson's a spud
Mate, Peterson is a GUN.
watched him play surburban footy last years.
RFC couldnt get anything out of him.
Hawthorn will
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Jack, if Raines is such a good player, how come he kept spudding it up at VFL level? You take swipes at players like Foley who absolutely smashed it at VFL level (40 possessions every week), and support players like Raines who can barely get 10 touches.
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I have NEVER EVER Taken a swipe at Axel.
Get your facts right.
Raines,runner up in the Rising Star, REMEMBER.
Players dont lose there ability.
We just recruit players who havent got much
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BIG DIFFERENCE.
Thomson was there last year and cant play.
Raines was RUNNER UP in the rising star 2-3 years ago.- and CAN PLAY
Oh , how alot of you on here have bad memories, I should I say selective memories ::)
Thomspon had a sternum injury last year, lost alot of upper body strength, his 2009 was a write off
As for Peterson, Jodan Lewis was on the Sunday Footy Show and said that Carl had settled down a lot since he left Richmond. He has a baby now and is living the family life so has a pretty big responsibility to keep him on the straight and narrow now. Carl admits he was at fault for his career at Richmond.
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keep in mind they kept Shulz for 6 years and Patterson for 3 :o
:nope :nope :nope
He lasted 1 year jack not 3
Peterson was good, pity we couldnt get the best out of him
And he couldn't get the best out of himself and should hold himself accountable, not the club.
The Richmond support staff of 2007 certainly wouldn't be the the Hawks support staff of today but you also can't blame the Richmond staff for him drinking the nights away and getting into fights at pubs and falling through windows.
It was clear since he wasn't picked up straight away initially no clubs rated his natural talent beating his off-field eff ups and it took him a couple of years in the country to again convince a team he was worth another go.
No indictment on Richmond at all here.
Please don't blame Richmond totally for Carl Peterson no longer being at Richmond.
Carl bought the majority of his problems on all on his lonesome....
Gee we bag the club for not being tough enough with blokes, they make a stand and when they flick someone who wouldn't show the commitment nescessary then we gab 'em some more... read the parts in the above quote I've underlined and that is the reason he was flicked. to borrow a Jack "a nism" can I say = FACT
I hope he makes it at the Hawks because he is a very talented young bloke and perhaps; just perhaps like others before him he needed the kick up the bum to realise the commitment needed to be an AFL footballer and this time round he aint going to waste it
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he was talking about Patto :shh
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Patto lasted 5 years so wrong either way :D
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he was talking about Patto :shh
oops my error
but he is still wrong Patto was there 5 years :rollin
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Patto lasted 5 years so wrong either way :D
2 years to long as he cannot play.
never understood why we drafted him from Northern Knights.
probably in hope rather then ability
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Patto lasted 5 years so wrong either way :D
2 years to long as he cannot play.
never understood why we drafted him from Northern Knights.
probably in hope rather then ability
He's still in the AFL system so who knows what we'll still see out of him
He had both the Hawks & Saints who wanted him, two teams both a lot better than Richmond
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar. He wasnt ready for AFL football when we had him was injured and dissintereted kept lying to the coaches, was offered a guaranteed spot on the rookie list if he just turned up to pre-season training, he didnt show ! Even so we should never have delisted him, players of his ability are extremely rare, especially at a club like richmond where half the list are just not up to it, hopefully things have changed
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Careful here..
Peterson has flash in the pan written all over him. I remember seeing his draft videos thinking wow this kid is a freak. And really disappointed in how he failed to grasp the appreciation and respect needed of AFL footballer.
Time will tell if he can play or not, it's not really our loss as much as anyone's. He was picked up in this years draft very very very low any of the other teams could be as disappointed as us for not picking him up when his head was right.
As for Andrew, I played junior footy against Andrew Raines and kicked a goal on him :thumbsup, I can tell you that you wont find a bigger insult in our games history lol. Raines along with many other of our players need to be playing in a very good side to look like they are any good. As a running defender you'd be able to name probably 20-30 players ahead of him in the AFL system, I think his value is extremely low.
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Watched Peterson last year, overweight and still had class wriitten over him.
Raines needs to be in a good side., would agree with that, but he didint finish second in the Rising Star for nothing
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Watched Peterson last year, overweight and still had class wriitten over him.
Raines needs to be in a good side., would agree with that, but he didint finish second in the Rising Star for nothing
Yes, he came 2nd because he's a one trick pony and it took a season for teams to figure out how to shut him down. Since they figured him out he's been largely ineffective.
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Raines had injuries past 2 years, well documented
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Raines had injuries past 2 years, well documented
So Raines having injuries is an OK excuse for his efforts last year but other players still on the list who had injuries ar enot afforded the same excuse ::)
Perhaps young Andrew is like young Carl in that he needed a kick up the bum to realise that you have to work hard to be a league footballer and work hard to get a game as opposed to thinking you should just be handed them
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Peterson & Raines are both gone
No-one Cares what they do now. ;D they were both given a go & both failed
End of story
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well he did have serious knee issues.
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Watched Peterson last year, overweight and still had class wriitten over him.
Raines needs to be in a good side., would agree with that, but he didint finish second in the Rising Star for nothing
Would have been a deserving winner if he got up. Although it was probably the weakest Rising Star year. Danyle Pearce won it. Marc Murphy was 4th and played 10 games that year. Heath Shaw was 3rd in a very raw first year. Clint Bartram was 5th. The winner of this years Rising Star will carry serious weight. Scully, Trengove, Martin, Cunnington will all come close and don't forget the favorites Naitinui and Ziebell.
Raines can play but needs quality around him, in particular big bodies that free up his line of run. Our backline is far from being developed enough to allow Raines to shine and its common sense to grab Astbury for him who will be a fine player when our transformation is complete.
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Who cares if he'll be playing finals footy? Raph Clarke played in the Grand Final. Does that make him a good player? Mark Seaby played in a winning Grand Final. Does that make him a good player?
You say "he will get better with each game". How about you have this kind of patience with OUR trades. You threw Thomson under the bus after his first game.
x 3, c'mon Jack you were one of the ones that wanted him gone, along with every other player on our list for that matter.. ::).
Yep, Runner up in the rising star and one bad year and they burn him.
::).
If Dustin Martin is runner up in 2010 and has a bad year in 2011, you want to burn him as well.
I'm sorry, are we still in 2008? No, it is 2010.
He won the runner up in the rising star in 2006, that's three bad years.
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar. He wasnt ready for AFL football when we had him was injured and dissintereted kept lying to the coaches, was offered a guaranteed spot on the rookie list if he just turned up to pre-season training, he didnt show ! Even so we should never have delisted him, players of his ability are extremely rare, especially at a club like richmond where half the list are just not up to it, hopefully things have changed
Love to see peoples views on football.
This poster Blaisee has no idea.
Well down Andrew Raines on a good game tonight.
Will only get better.
his delivery and run tonite was good
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
Raines a spud hey. ::)
He will play finals footy in 2010
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Of course he would receive better support at Hawthorn
They aint got much idea at Punt Road.
Interesting to watch Andrew Raines play tonight as well
Looked good !
hehe raines. He was smashed by ebert absolutely smashed, you have no idea as usual jack :scream
Hope you watched Raines tonight you idiot ::)
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Raines is a spud
LMFAO at Jackstar being his biggest fan just so he can have another swipe at the Tiges
Hope you had a good look tonight you clown.
Raines was real good tonight :thumbsup
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
Raines a spud hey. ::)
He will play finals footy in 2010
serious Jack if l played in a team with Raines, l would belt him in the change room after the game
His hospital kick in the last quarter to a 2 on 1 contest reminded me of his Richmond days ;D would have made me mad if l was his team mate.
His will never change his a scared rabbit
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
Raines a spud hey. ::)
He will play finals footy in 2010
serious Jack if l played in a team with Raines, l would belt him in the change room after the game
His hospital kick in the last quarter to a 2 on 1 contest reminded me of his Richmond days ;D would have made me mad if l was his team mate.
His will never change his a scared rabbit
Wouldnt judge him by one poor kick.
He was pretty good tonight
The kid can play and will fit in well at Brisbane. just wait and see, ;)
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most players fit in somewhere but l just dont like him as a league player
Voss & his staff, & Raines himself are obviously working on his future but sometimes his actions send chills through me
he will offload the ball if you yell heat at him lol ;D
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strong friendship between Voss and Raines you will find. and he will get the best out of him
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strong friendship between Voss and Raines you will find. and he will get the best out of him
yeah l know didn't they share a bed together in Ireland ;D
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Not convinced on Raines. Still a one trick pony to me the difference is he is in a much superior side than what he ever was at Richmond. I want to see how he goes when he's matched up on a Medhurst or a Bartel or on a Cyril Rioli resting in the forward line. No matter how much you get along with the coach out there on the field it can get lonely when you're getting flogged.
Personally good luck to the kid. Has done nothing to anybody. Won't lose any sleep if he makes it or not.
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Not convinced on Raines. Still a one trick pony to me the difference is he is in a much superior side than what he ever was at Richmond. I want to see how he goes when he's matched up on a Medhurst or a Bartel or on a Cyril Rioli resting in the forward line. No matter how much you get along with the coach out there on the field it can get lonely when you're getting flogged.
Personally good luck to the kid. Has done nothing to anybody. Won't lose any sleep if he makes it or not.
you find Raines on the bench when the likes of a 100% fit Medhurst this year is on him
Bartel would strip him lol
Rioli well Raines wont see him
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
Raines a spud hey. ::)
He will play finals footy in 2010
Yep he's a spud. Can't hit a target reliably.
Pretty obvious in the 2nd half as he tired I thought.
Seeing as your bench mark is Tucky I am not surprised you rate Raines.
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This is getting farcical.
Raines is an ordinary player at best ask the whole football world.
Raines will get an easier run out of defense with the bodies of Merret, Maguire etc blocking his passage through.
He wasn't great tonight Jack. Efficiency of 70 is par and had 3 clangers.
Drawing an amazingly low bow. Give me the pick that secured us Astbury every day of the week. Every day of the year for the rest of my life.
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This is getting farcical.
Raines is an ordinary player at best ask the whole football world.
Raines will get an easier run out of defense with the bodies of Merret, Maguire etc blocking his passage through.
He wasn't great tonight Jack. Efficiency of 70 is par and had 3 clangers.
Drawing an amazingly low bow. Give me the pick that secured us Astbury every day of the week. Every day of the year for the rest of my life.
Raines =pick 35 which was Dea I think., not Astbury, gets your facts right.
Ordinary players dont run second in rising stars either. ::)
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Rioli well Raines wont see him
Why TM, is Raines colour blind? :lol
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This is getting farcical.
Raines is an ordinary player at best ask the whole football world.
Raines will get an easier run out of defense with the bodies of Merret, Maguire etc blocking his passage through.
He wasn't great tonight Jack. Efficiency of 70 is par and had 3 clangers.
Drawing an amazingly low bow. Give me the pick that secured us Astbury every day of the week. Every day of the year for the rest of my life.
Raines =pick 35 which was Dea I think., not Astbury, gets your facts right.
Ordinary players dont run second in rising stars either. ::)
What do you think of Polak pre accident he ran second in 2003?
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This is getting farcical.
Raines is an ordinary player at best ask the whole football world.
Raines will get an easier run out of defense with the bodies of Merret, Maguire etc blocking his passage through.
He wasn't great tonight Jack. Efficiency of 70 is par and had 3 clangers.
Drawing an amazingly low bow. Give me the pick that secured us Astbury every day of the week. Every day of the year for the rest of my life.
Raines =pick 35 which was Dea I think., not Astbury, gets your facts right.
Ordinary players dont run second in rising stars either. ::)
Raines actually got us Pick 44, however it was Dea. If you are going to tell someone to get their facts right then you should probably make sure yours are.
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:lol Nice one infamy.
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Pick 35 or 44 or Astbury or Dea even Taylor, Nason < Raines.
Jack I can't believe your a fan of Raines, he tries to break the lines but 50% of the times gets caught and loses possession. He kicks long to contests which in this day in age is a positive to all oppositions as it gives a 50-50 chance of taking back possession.
Today's game is all about having the footy and keeping it.
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Pick 35 or 44 or Astbury or Dea even Taylor, Nason < Raines.
Jack I can't believe your a fan of Raines, he tries to break the lines but 50% of the times gets caught and loses possession. He kicks long to contests which in this day in age is a positive to all oppositions as it gives a 50-50 chance of taking back possession.
Today's game is all about having the footy and keeping it.
Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
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Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
Probably even knows what pick they secured Raines with. :lol
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Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
Probably even knows what pick they secured Raines with. :lol
Honestly, who gives a stuff what pick they secured him.
He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
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Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
Probably even knows what pick they secured Raines with. :lol
Honestly, who gives a stuff what pick they secured him.
He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
what about rawlings and mcrae jack, you thought they were both hacks while at richmond, you reckon they are topliners too along with carazzo and raines hehehehe.
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Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
Probably even knows what pick they secured Raines with. :lol
Honestly, who gives a stuff what pick they secured him.
He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
what about rawlings and mcrae jack, you thought they were both hacks while at richmond, you reckon they are topliners too along with carazzo and raines hehehehe.
Didnt know Rawlings and McCrae were still playing :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :scream ::) ::) :rollin :rollin :rollin
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He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
No doubt? Based on what? Last nights game?
Pretty quick to say that jackie. David Rodan started well too..
Raines never had a problem picking up possessions but again last night in the 2nd half particularly he found himself running in to trouble.
His disposal in the first half was quite solid and he did do a good job on Betts I'll admit but as I said the 2nd half saw the same ol' errors as Carlton(hardly the leagues benchmark) came storming back. His kicking and decision making reverted to type.
If the Lions are going anywhere they would be looking to upgrade him IMO. Just as we did.
I expect he will be exposed over the coming weeks against quality sides and will be running around in the 2nds again soon enough.
We'll see I guess.
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Michael Voss knows more than all you in internet nuffers put together.
;)
Probably even knows what pick they secured Raines with. :lol
Honestly, who gives a stuff what pick they secured him.
He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
what about rawlings and mcrae jack, you thought they were both hacks while at richmond, you reckon they are topliners too along with carazzo and raines hehehehe.
Didnt know Rawlings and McCrae were still playing :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :scream ::) ::) :rollin :rollin :rollin
oh jack keep the laughs coming mate.
You are on a roll :sleep
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Thought Andrew got tired as the game went on.
Had interupted preseason through injury, so will only improve.
As for Dave Rodan, was slaughtered by Terry Wallace.
Dave has recovered from knee reco and will play within 6 weeks :thumbsup
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Rioli well Raines wont see him
Why TM, is Raines colour blind? :lol
:shh dont give my secrets up ol smokey
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This is getting farcical.
Raines is an ordinary player at best ask the whole football world.
Raines will get an easier run out of defense with the bodies of Merret, Maguire etc blocking his passage through.
He wasn't great tonight Jack. Efficiency of 70 is par and had 3 clangers.
Drawing an amazingly low bow. Give me the pick that secured us Astbury every day of the week. Every day of the year for the rest of my life.
Raines =pick 35 which was Dea I think., not Astbury, gets your facts right.
Ordinary players dont run second in rising stars either. ::)
Raines actually got us Pick 44, however it was Dea. If you are going to tell someone to get their facts right then you should probably make sure yours are.
lol :rollin
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He will be a very good player for them, no doubt.
No doubt? Based on what? Last nights game?
Pretty quick to say that jackie. David Rodan started well too..
Raines never had a problem picking up possessions but again last night in the 2nd half particularly he found himself running in to trouble.
His disposal in the first half was quite solid and he did do a good job on Betts I'll admit but as I said the 2nd half saw the same ol' errors as Carlton(hardly the leagues benchmark) came storming back. His kicking and decision making reverted to type.
If the Lions are going anywhere they would be looking to upgrade him IMO. Just as we did.
I expect he will be exposed over the coming weeks against quality sides and will be running around in the 2nds again soon enough.
We'll see I guess.
good post :thumbsup
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Peterson looked good
Raines is a spud
Raines a spud hey. ::)
He will play finals footy in 2010
Yep he's a spud. Can't hit a target reliably.
Pretty obvious in the 2nd half as he tired I thought.
Seeing as your bench mark is Tucky I am not surprised you rate Raines.
yep your right once again magic.
getting his hands on the ball was never a problem with raines. or even being accountable never a problem. but making good decisions and useing the ball well was and after watching the brissie game on and of still is.
sheesh is just me or is there others out there who think brissie will struggle to make the 8. bloody hell they got smashed thru the midfield.
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They still won
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sheesh is just me or is there others out there who think brissie will struggle to make the 8. bloody hell they got smashed thru the midfield.
I publicly said that last year Claw and they have a much stronger side (on paper) this year. Would need to be a serious malfunction for them not to make it (IMH but not necessarily informed O ).
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Brown will win 6 games off his boot.
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sheesh is just me or is there others out there who think brissie will struggle to make the 8. bloody hell they got smashed thru the midfield.
Totally. Imagine if Judd had played.
Carlton are not going to make the 8 but there's not much between them and Brisbane IMO.
The Lions are touch and go to just play finals football and certainly topping up with the likes of Raines, Buchanan(already dropped), Staker etc. sees them treading the waters of mediocrity.
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sheesh is just me or is there others out there who think brissie will struggle to make the 8. bloody hell they got smashed thru the midfield.
Totally. Imagine if Judd had played.
Carlton are not going to make the 8 but there's not much between them and Brisbane IMO.
The Lions are touch and go to just play finals football and certainly topping up with the likes of Raines, Buchanan(already dropped), Staker etc. sees them treading the waters of mediocrity.
Them treading waters of mediocrity.
What do you call RFC then ??? LOL
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Them treading waters of mediocrity.
What do you call RFC then ??? LOL
Rebuilding from scratch. :-\
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Buchanan broke his thumb early in the round 1 game. ;)
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sheesh is just me or is there others out there who think brissie will struggle to make the 8. bloody hell they got smashed thru the midfield.
Totally. Imagine if Judd had played.
Carlton are not going to make the 8 but there's not much between them and Brisbane IMO.
The Lions are touch and go to just play finals football and certainly topping up with the likes of Raines, Buchanan(already dropped), Staker etc. sees them treading the waters of mediocrity.
Yep. forget about Buchanan broken thumb did we ?? ::) ::) ::)
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Not convinced on Raines. Still a one trick pony to me the difference is he is in a much superior side than what he ever was at Richmond. I want to see how he goes when he's matched up on a Medhurst or a Bartel or on a Cyril Rioli resting in the forward line. No matter how much you get along with the coach out there on the field it can get lonely when you're getting flogged.
Personally good luck to the kid. Has done nothing to anybody. Won't lose any sleep if he makes it or not.
you find Raines on the bench when the likes of a 100% fit Medhurst this year is on him
Bartel would strip him lol
Rioli well Raines wont see him
yes he will
with binoculars ;D
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why is it when raines played for us he always kicked slow long rain makers
watching him run out of defence and kicking 40 mt passes lace out bullet like was amazing
just shows he had the ability just shows wallace and his clowns could not develop and coach
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why is it when raines played for us he always kicked slow long rain makers
watching him run out of defence and kicking 40 mt passes lace out bullet like was amazing
just shows he had the ability just shows wallace and his clowns could not develop and coach
Most of you people should actually watch the games instead of posting crap.
On three seperate occasions on Thursday Night,he hit J.Brown "'lace up "" ( resulted in goals)
Most people on here are terribly biased.
Someone picked out one poor kick and say he had terrible skills
problem RFC has we have kept wackos like McMahon and Edwards and let Raines go :banghead :banghead
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Raines was just about our only expendable player who had any value at the draft table.
McMahon & Edwards....you couldn't pay someone to take them.
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"Most people on here are terribly biased"
That is the funniest thing I have heard
LMFAO
PS Raines is a spud
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Just proves mate that Raines wouldnot play for the club like a few others & was there for the money & a new home
They can all play footy, They just got to wanna play for the club & do the hard work
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Just proves mate that Raines wouldnot play for the club like a few others & was there for the money & a new home
They can all play footy, They just got to wanna play for the club & do the hard work
Can tell you Raines wanted to play at Richmond, but felt shafted, Thus moved on.
Has no gripes
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shafted by whom- Hardwick?
Not Hardwicks fault, If Raines wanted to play for RFC he would have stuck around and seen how he went under HArdwicks coaching!
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Exactly right Ramps.
It was obvious he wasn't getting a game under Wallet and then Rawlings and most likely he was more than happy to go up for trade and try his luck elsewhere. Sounds like a distinct case of personal agenda to me rather than getting shafted.
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problem RFC has we have kept wackos like McMahon and Edwards and let Raines go :banghead :banghead
I'm new on here and some of the stuff I read here is brillaint and there are some very knowledgable posters, then I come across the jackstar who is back again.
Can someone tell me if this poster was gone and has come back again? If he was gone he should have stayed away.
Jackstar, is that the way you would of run the bunsiness down at Punt Road? Delisting contracted players and paying them a healthy figure? Very bad management.
McMahon is finshed no doubt and no one would have touched him on the trade table & Edwards is now at the croassroads but mate think about it as if it was your business.
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3121.
Take Note.
The RFC is paying 75% of Jay Schulzs match payments for 2010.
Who did sign the 3 year contract at the start of 2008 ???
and you will find that 2010 of his deal was the biggest $$$$$$$$$$$$
Now thats BAD BUSINESS
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The RFC is paying 75% of Jay Schulzs match payments for 2010.
Who did sign the 3 year contract at the start of 2008 ???
and you will find that 2010 of his deal was the biggest $$$$$$$$$$$$
Now thats BAD BUSINESS
Well it's better than getting nothing for a player, afterall we may have picked a player who wanted to come back to Melbourne who may be with us for a while (Farmer).
Clubs will sometimes take one step back to take two steps forward.
Remember your arguement, you wanted to delist McMahon & Edwards, now that would of been 3 contracted players being paid out and not playing for us, and you are telling me it's bad business. You are going around in circles.
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I'm new on here and some of the stuff I read here is brillaint and there are some very knowledgable posters, then I come across the jackstar who is back again.
Can someone tell me if this poster was gone and has come back again? If he was gone he should have stayed away.
Jackstar is about due for another dummy spit and self enforced absence.
He is OK though (just ask him)
:-)
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Yep. forget about Buchanan broken thumb did we ?? ::) ::) ::)
Hadn't seen he was listed with a broken thumb and assumed he was dropped.
Another mediocre footballer just the same.
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The RFC is paying 75% of Jay Schulzs match payments for 2010.
Who did sign the 3 year contract at the start of 2008 ???
and you will find that 2010 of his deal was the biggest $$$$$$$$$$$$
Now thats BAD BUSINESS
Well it's better than getting nothing for a player, afterall we may have picked a player who wanted to come back to Melbourne who may be with us for a while (Farmer).
Clubs will sometimes take one step back to take two steps forward.
Remember your arguement, you wanted to delist McMahon & Edwards, now that would of been 3 contracted players being paid out and not playing for us, and you are telling me it's bad business. You are going around in circles.
talk about getting totally pwned - well done 3121, see right through him.
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Yep. forget about Buchanan broken thumb did we ?? ::) ::) ::)
Hadn't seen he was listed with a broken thumb and assumed he was dropped.
Another mediocre footballer just the same.
If you watched the game, he broke it going for a ball on the boundary line
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I'm new on here and some of the stuff I read here is brillaint and there are some very knowledgable posters, then I come across the jackstar who is back again.
Can someone tell me if this poster was gone and has come back again? If he was gone he should have stayed away.
Jackstar is about due for another dummy spit and self enforced absence.
He is OK though (just ask him)
:-)
Its very close actually. LOL
I am okay :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Quartermain tonight in the last quarter comes out with the "how did Richmond let Peterson go" line ::). "I know he had discipline problems and he's more mature now but we know of the superior (player) development at Hawthorn."
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Quartermain tonight in the last quarter comes out with the "how did Richmond let Peterson go" line ::). "I know he had discipline problems and he's more mature now but we know of the superior (player) development at Hawthorn."
And the fact he spent 2 years back in country/state leagues working his arse off to get another chance. Not like we've got rid of him and instantly picked up by the Dawks. :stupid
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hey quartermaine , what was the score tonite lol
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"Most people on here are terribly biased"
That is the funniest thing I have heard
LMFAO
PS Raines is a spud
25 possesions last night ,10 contested :thumbsup
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He's a downhill skier of the highest order, Jack.
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He's a downhill skier of the highest order, Jack.
Brisbane will finish top 4
And A. Raines will play finals.
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He's a downhill skier of the highest order, Jack.
Brisbane will finish top 4
And A. Raines will play finals.
yep
just shows how crap wallace was at coaching him
voss is still young as a coach and is 100 times better than that tanned prcik
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"Most people on here are terribly biased"
That is the funniest thing I have heard
LMFAO
PS Raines is a spud
25 possesions last night ,10 contested :thumbsup
All I seen of his game were sideways/backwards kicks and high bombs. Raines = Spud.
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"Most people on here are terribly biased"
That is the funniest thing I have heard
LMFAO
PS Raines is a spud
25 possesions last night ,10 contested :thumbsup
All I seen of his game were sideways/backwards kicks and high bombs. Raines = Spud.
Funny that Chuck, I saw the exact same thing - the same things we would be moaning about on here if he was still wearing yellow and black!
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LMFAO at the downhill skier Raines last night. Brisbane will play finals but only becuase of Brown, Black and Fev. With the ball in his half most the night the only impact he could make was his a poor one with his ordinary disposal.
Brisbane would have been better off taking McMahon who at least would have given them some speed coming out of the back line.
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Raines , still had 21 possesions in a team that was ""off"' last night.
You genuises should of changed channels and watched David Rodan BOG.
Thats right, he cant play either ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :banghead
Second game back from Knee Op and the best onballers in the league( the saints) couldnt stop him
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Despite what many have thought ,it seems that many footballers who leave our club ,blossom elsewhere....what does that say about our player devlopment in years gone bye,and what does that say about our ability to spot talent
Despite our criticism of players like ritchie and Lids ,just maybe its us ...The RFC who have held these boys back and stopped them from becoming the superstars their draft pick suggested
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Raines , still had 21 possesions in a team that was ""off"' last night.
LMFAO, he has had eight tackles in five games and last night his disposal was poor, in the last with no pressure he kicked an absolute shocker. The ball was in his half most of the game last night and he still couldnt impact the game
Raines = Downhill skiing spud
You genuises should of changed channels and watched David Rodan BOG.
Thats right, he cant play either ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :banghead
Second game back from Knee Op and the best onballers in the league( the saints) couldnt stop him
Too busy laughing at Raines, IMO the Lions should have got Mcmahon who at least would add badly needed speed to their defence.
How is Patto and Meyer going
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Neither Patto or Meyer can play.
Why on earth we picked them up is beyond belief. :banghead :banghead :banghead.
Raines and Rodan can play
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Despite what many have thought ,it seems that many footballers who leave our club ,blossom elsewhere....what does that say about our player devlopment in years gone bye,and what does that say about our ability to spot talent
Thats BS the majority delisted are crap.
Peterson while promising hasnt done jack poo yet, Rodan is only an slightly better than average player.
Instead tell me how players such as Schultz, Meyer and Patto have blossomed since being moved on
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Raines , still had 21 possesions in a team that was ""off"' last night.
Lol, doesn't matter when your possessions are rubbish. Just ask Daniel Jackson.
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he wasnt there worst player last night.
can name at least 5-8 players who were completely out of touch for the Lions.
J.Brown had 6 kicks for the game ::)
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J.Brown had 6 kicks for the game ::)
Not his fault. J.Brown could barely run and was obviously injured from the start. Voss should not have played him.
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Frustrated Hawthorn ponder Carl Peterson's future
* Jon Ralph
* From: Herald Sun
* September 28, 2010 9:55PM
HAWTHORN is considering youngster Carl Peterson's spot on the list, frustrated at his unprofessional attitude.
The former Richmond forward played 17 exciting games this year, but is struggling to cope with the demands of professional sport.
It is believed he has been out of contact with the club in recent weeks but Hawthorn hopes he will attend Saturday night's Peter Crimmins Medal count.
On performances alone Peterson would be a certainty to have his contract extended, but the Hawks are no certainty to offer him another deal.
Peterson, 23, attended his post-season debrief with the coaching staff but is believed to have missed several compulsory meetings during the year.
The club and his teammates love his infectious personality but, as at Richmond, he struggles to stay focused on football.
Hawthorn will assess its list after the trade period, with Peterson a possible casualty.
He is struggling with personal issues and is believed to be in New South Wales, but has been difficult to contact since the Hawks' season finished.
Peterson lasted only one season with Richmond in his first stint in AFL football, damaging his arm when he put it through a window.
"I was signed for two years and they got rid of me after one. I wanted to go home," he said mid-year.
"I was just young, missing home. I didn't quite get AFL footy. I put my arm through a window - a silly mistake, having a drink. It was pretty bad, but that was a big turning point for me - making a mistake and thinking 'I don't want to do this any more'."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/frustrated-hawthorn-ponder-carl-petersons-future/story-e6frf9jf-1225931205733
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Frustrated Hawthorn ponder Carl Peterson's future
* Jon Ralph
* From: Herald Sun
* September 28, 2010 9:55PM
HAWTHORN is considering youngster Carl Peterson's spot on the list, frustrated at his unprofessional attitude.
The former Richmond forward played 17 exciting games this year, but is struggling to cope with the demands of professional sport.
It is believed he has been out of contact with the club in recent weeks but Hawthorn hopes he will attend Saturday night's Peter Crimmins Medal count.
On performances alone Peterson would be a certainty to have his contract extended, but the Hawks are no certainty to offer him another deal.
Peterson, 23, attended his post-season debrief with the coaching staff but is believed to have missed several compulsory meetings during the year.
The club and his teammates love his infectious personality but, as at Richmond, he struggles to stay focused on football.
Hawthorn will assess its list after the trade period, with Peterson a possible casualty.
He is struggling with personal issues and is believed to be in New South Wales, but has been difficult to contact since the Hawks' season finished.
Peterson lasted only one season with Richmond in his first stint in AFL football, damaging his arm when he put it through a window.
"I was signed for two years and they got rid of me after one. I wanted to go home," he said mid-year.
"I was just young, missing home. I didn't quite get AFL footy. I put my arm through a window - a silly mistake, having a drink. It was pretty bad, but that was a big turning point for me - making a mistake and thinking 'I don't want to do this any more'."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/frustrated-hawthorn-ponder-carl-petersons-future/story-e6frf9jf-1225931205733
Im surprised richmond didnt keep him for the two year contract and try and work out his problems LIKE we have always done
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Frustrated Hawthorn ponder Carl Peterson's future
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/frustrated-hawthorn-ponder-carl-petersons-future/story-e6frf9jf-1225931205733
Hopefully this now shuts up any journo who bagged us in the past over Peterson ::).
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Wow, what an interesting read this old thread was! And there was a gem back on page 10 that I just had to bring back for the enjoyment of all:
"After half time, he improved out of sight.
At least he will play finals football this year, something he would not have done at punt road.
No doubt he will get better with each game"
This was one of the many iterations of Jackstar talking about Raines at the start of this year. Sorry Jack, I know we all get it wrong occasionally but I just couldn't help myself. ;D
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
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Wow, what an interesting read this old thread was! And there was a gem back on page 10 that I just had to bring back for the enjoyment of all:
"After half time, he improved out of sight.
At least he will play finals football this year, something he would not have done at punt road.
No doubt he will get better with each game"
This was one of the many iterations of Jackstar talking about Raines at the start of this year. Sorry Jack, I know we all get it wrong occasionally but I just couldn't help myself. ;D
Yep LOL Smokey, what a funny thread this was
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
Just proves that M.Voss has more idea than Inafamy.
raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
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why dont you find the posts where you were all creaming you "'jeans"' when he ran 2nd in the rising star ?
The kid can play.
Injured again this year.
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why dont you find the posts where you were all creaming you "'jeans"' when he ran 2nd in the rising star ?
The kid can play.
Injured again this year.
Geez jack your stuck in the past man
the raines ship sailed years ago he is finished, has been for 4 years.
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
Just proves that M.Voss has more idea than Inafamy.
raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
lol stop flogging a dead horse,
can't kick when under pressure, been exposed at AFL - dud
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
Just proves that M.Voss has more idea than Inafamy.
raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
lol stop flogging a dead horse,
can't kick when under pressure, been exposed at AFL - dud
Oh Geez we still talking about how crap Raines is. If Raines was at St Kilda or Collingwood there would be no replay this week. ;)
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
Just proves that M.Voss has more idea than Inafamy.
raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
Surely you are just taking the pee now
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why dont you find the posts where you were all creaming you "'jeans"' when he ran 2nd in the rising star ?
The kid can play.
Injured again this year.
Why is jeans in quotes?
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why dont you find the posts where you were all creaming you "'jeans"' when he ran 2nd in the rising star ?
The kid can play.
Injured again this year.
Why is jeans in quotes?
LOL
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If raines plays no way the lions will make finals will be a depth player at best. Was destroyed by ebert.
Peterson is a gun. Superstar.
jackstar strikes again
Good to see my opinion of raines has been vindicated. To think that Voss gave him a 3 yr deal is just unbelievable
Just proves that M.Voss has more idea than Inafamy.
raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
1) Why bring me up in this
2) According to you I don't know much about football, so that's hardly a compliment to Voss on your behalf is it?
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Sorry mate, I mixed you up with the other meathead Blaisee.
sorry ::)
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LMAO that's the best apology ever Jack
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raines will prove you all wrong, wait and see
Too funny. ;D
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Peterson delisted today by the Hawthorn.
So much for the journos saying he was one Richmond allowed to get away :wallywink.
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Heaps of natural talent but Peterson didn't have the commitment and discipline needed to play at AFL level.
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But I thought it was going to be all different at the Hawks with their superior player management techniques
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But I thought it was going to be all different at the Hawks with their superior player management techniques
God I love it when the Hawks stuff up.
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whats that tool quarters gonna use for richmond bashing material now ::)
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Gone walk about.
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whats that tool quarters gonna use for richmond bashing material now ::)
They've still got Schulz and now Collo to use to write garbage bagging us :sleep. Of course we won't hear any of these so-called experts now saying Peterson's delisting by the Hawks shows RFC were right to delist him 3 years ago.
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this bloke was a :wallywink
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The decision to get rid of him was the correct decision and the decision of Hawthorn further confirms this
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whats that tool quarters gonna use for richmond bashing material now ::)
They've still got Schulz and now Collo to use to write garbage bagging us :sleep. Of course we won't hear any of these so-called experts now saying Peterson's delisting by the Hawks shows RFC were right to delist him 3 years ago.
or Patterson and end of next year, meyer, schultz and rodan
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whats that tool quarters gonna use for richmond bashing material now ::)
They've still got Schulz and now Collo to use to write garbage bagging us :sleep. Of course we won't hear any of these so-called experts now saying Peterson's delisting by the Hawks shows RFC were right to delist him 3 years ago.
or Patterson and end of next year, meyer, schultz and rodan
and JON who got another year at the Eagles :o ???.
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But I thought it was going to be all different at the Hawks with their superior player management techniques
God I love it when the Hawks stuff up.
makes for entertaining viewing when they do, especially the way the media carry on with their Whorethorn love-fest and try to justify their mistakes.
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Carl Peterson was on SEN just before with his mentor talking about him hoping to be re-drafted. I had the radio on in the background so I may have misheard but did he say he had some interest from Richmond as one of the AFL clubs?
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If we can rookie him, go for it!
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Would be good for 1 season, then he will walk . . . isnt that what happened at Hawks? :whistle
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Would be good for 1 season, then he will walk . . . isnt that what happened at Hawks? :whistle
He didn't walk from the Hawks, they cut him
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Apparently has turned it around big time. Fully settled with wife, kid, house in Melbourne now with no desire to return to WA. Think he's a chippy and playing in the amo's.
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peterson and jon will make it, mark my words. they just need that lil extra time to develop, not every player is a deledio, or murphy, or selwood. some take longer. look at varcoe, been in the system a few yrs now also, still cant cement a spot but is showing good steady improvement, but for a high draft pick, he does not get the flack that jon , blingers and peterson get.
they will shut all their critics up with 2 yrs
ahahaahaa
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Apparently has turned it around big time. Fully settled with wife, kid, house in Melbourne now with no desire to return to WA. Think he's a chippy and playing in the amo's.
Just completed the first year of a carpentry apprenticeship.
Hope someone gives him a chance.
:thumbsup
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no surprise that Mr man from tassie thinks Carl would be a good get.
the guy is absolute rubbish and we dont need his selfish sought at our club. See Taylor
He walked, club cut him loose bla bla bla
He has had enough chances. Goodbye
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He has had enough chances. Goodbye
We've already said "goodbye" seems people are speculating we want to say "welcome back" :rollin
Personally I'd say PASS
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no surprise that Mr man from tassie thinks Carl would be a good get.
the guy is absolute rubbish and we dont need his selfish sought at our club. See Taylor
He walked, club cut him loose bla bla bla
He has had enough chances. Goodbye
such an ignorant post
if we got carl again and he turned it on , you will be the first to congratulate him
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Woah woah, steady on boys. Gerks will usually let you guys have your say but not this time.
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Word is Relton Roberts has settled down too.
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Settled down with a big bowl of saturated fat
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i doubt that Davey.
you only get as fat as he is eating carbs :thumbsup
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Just completed the first year of a carpentry apprenticeship.
Surprised he didn't become a glassier.
Pass.
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Just completed the first year of a carpentry apprenticeship.
Surprised he didn't become a glassier.
Pass.
Harsh but fair.
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no surprise that Mr man from tassie thinks Carl would be a good get.
the guy is absolute rubbish and we dont need his selfish sought at our club. See Taylor
He walked, club cut him loose bla bla bla
He has had enough chances. Goodbye
Oh yes I forget, there is no room in the modern game for the sub 180cm player! How foolish of me :lol :lol
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no surprise that Mr man from tassie thinks Carl would be a good get.
the guy is absolute rubbish and we dont need his selfish sought at our club. See Taylor
He walked, club cut him loose bla bla bla
He has had enough chances. Goodbye
such an ignorant post
if we got carl again and he turned it on , you will be the first to congratulate him
of course i would X and i would acknowledge that i got it wrong, something people like you never would do.
Your still waiting for Tambling to play to Dimma's instructions. Carl is another Tambling, actually worse as Richard had issues where as carl has had enough opportunities and didnt grab them. Pass
I think i would prefer to side with a club like hawthorn than 2 finnochio's like u 2.
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I dont see this has an argument as i know im right. Carl Peterson..LMFAO
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As it happens I still believe if Pederson is available to Rookie then we should go for it. He showed more than enough in his season with Hawthorn that if the kid puts his mind to it he could become a very good player. Once again in a shallow draft you would loose nothing offering his a spot on the rookie list.
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Snip! Stick to discussing and debating the topic ppl without the namecalling and insults >:( just because another poster's opinion disagrees with yours!
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Snip! Usually I let you all have your say but not this time
Carl peterson will be a rookie, CC is just filling out the paperwork now. Get used to it.
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Carl Peterson was on SEN just before with his mentor talking about him hoping to be re-drafted. I had the radio on in the background so I may have misheard but did he say he had some interest from Richmond as one of the AFL clubs?
We have spoken to him I think they said...
They never mentioned Richmond at all in regards to his career so far. Just Hawthorn... ??